Tuesday Aug 25, 2009

Center Field: Treat the apartheid slur - the "A-word" - like the "N-word"

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Since Neve Gordon published his controversial Los Angeles Times op-ed "Boycott Israel" on August 20, critics have called for officials at Ben Gurion University, his academic home, to punish him or to risk losing donations.

Cutting donations to a university because of an outspoken professor or suspending that professor for his views is as shortsighted and self-destructive as an Israeli citizen endorsing a boycott of his own country. Maybe I am perverse, but I relish these moments to demonstrate that Israel has freedom of speech and Israeli campuses have academic freedom - unlike their neighbors.

At the same time, it is important to denounce Gordon and others for perpetuating the apartheid smear against Israel. Everyone who cares about peace in the Middle East and truth in the world must stop making the false comparisons between the difficult national conflict pitting Israelis against Palestinians and the ugly racist regime that discriminated against South Africans of color for decades.

In his article, Gordon proclaims: "The most accurate way to describe Israel today is as an apartheid state." This may be the trendiest, most politically correct, and most demeaning way to describe Israel today, but for a professor of politics to claim that it is "the most accurate way" is absurd. The unconscionable, inaccurate apartheid label insults anyone who supports the modern Jewish state of Israel as well as everyone who suffered under South Africa's evil apartheid system.

Apartheid was a racist legal system the Afrikaner Nationalists dominating South Africa's government imposed after World War II. The Afrikaners' discriminatory policies began with their racist revulsion for blacks, reflected in early laws in 1949 and 1950 prohibiting marriages and sexual relations between whites and non-whites. Apartheid quickly developed into a brutal system that attempted to dehumanize South Africa's majority nonwhite population.

Beyond the historical definition, international law emphasizes that apartheid involves intentional, mandated racism. In 1973 the United Nations General Assembly defined apartheid as "the purpose of establishing and maintaining domination by one racial group of persons over any other racial group of persons and systematically oppressing them."

The fact that Israel's Declaration of Independence - and founding document - promises to "uphold the full social and political equality of all its citizens, without distinction of race, creed or sex," proves that Israel rejects racism and by definition cannot be accused of apartheid.

Injecting "racism" into the Palestinian-Israeli conflict is a sloppy attempt to slander Israel with the accusation du jour. It is a statement as trendy and unhistorical as equating Zionism with European colonialism, another folly given Jews' historic ties to the land of Israel. Since the Nazi attempt to annihilate Jews as a "race," the Jewish world has recoiled against defining Jews as a "race."

Zionism talks about Judaism, the Jewish people, the Jewish state. The Arab-Israeli conflict is a nationalist clash with religious overtones. The rainbow of colors among Israelis and Palestinians, with black Ethiopian Jews, and white Christian Palestinians, proves that both national communities are diverse.

In a world organized by nation states, singling out Jewish nationalism, meaning Zionism, as racist is so ridiculous even the United Nations ultimately rescinded its infamous 1975 resolution. The application of the apartheid label is an attempt to ostracize Israel by misrepresenting some of the difficult decisions Israel has felt forced to make in fighting Palestinian terror. Israel's opponents are trying to transfer onto Israel the civilized world's justifiable contempt for South African oppression.

This charge is particularly ironic coming from so many Arab states, which perpetuate discriminatory citizenship policies against Christians, women, gays and even other Arabs from different regions. But the charge is particularly insidious because it is the centerpiece of the current attempt to demonize Zionism and eradicate Israel. Anyone who claims to be unaware that apartheid is a loaded term forfeits all credibility on the subject of the Middle East and Africa.

Unfortunately, Neve Gordon is not the only Israeli to use the "A-word." It has entered the conversational midstream. Even when someone from the center says "I oppose a particular policy because I fear it would then make Israel an 'apartheid state,'" the ugly linkage between Israel and the "A-word" is reinforced.

I do not believe in government sanctions, but I do believe in shunning. People who use the "A-word" in casual conversation or in formal discourse should be named and shamed for insulting Israel, South Africa, and their audience with historically inaccurate demagoguery that slanders the Jewish people.

In the United States, people no longer use the "N-word," the derogatory term for blacks that once was ubiquitous in American discourse. Americans acknowledge the slur's emotional power and the lingering scars from its widespread use. We should start avoiding the "A-word" and confronting those who use it - before it is too late.

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1  |   Sally - U.S.A., Tuesday Aug 25, 2009
Unfortunately, Gordon is following a tradition that began long ago. Hopefully, your article will help stop it. Jimmy Carter made the same slur in his book. All the Jewish people working at the Carter Center quit because of it. Mr. Obama's minister specifically said & sold in DVD's that zionism is racism - but Mr. Obama attending the church for 20 years claimed that he did not hear it. We now have a Swedish newspaper making a blood libel claim. Now do people understand the damage that Obama's Cairo Speech has unleashed?
2  |   jack canada, Tuesday Aug 25, 2009
So what, apartheid? Its not Nazism like the Arabs would impose on the Jews. Apartheid is a minor evil. Nobody gets gassed, or thrown into the sea. It was wrong for a minority to control such a large majority; SA is a big country, and the whites were somewhat greedy in trying to own it all. Partition could have worked, but it would have been geographically difficult. So they settled it this way. Another way would have been for the Whites to return to Europe. They were all members of majorities in Europe. It would have been sad but not tragic. Israel is a small land. Arabs have plenty of land.
3  |   Jeremy USA, Tuesday Aug 25, 2009
America's Declaration of Indpendence stated all men are created equal, yet she continued to enslave blacks for nearly another 100 years and wait almost 200 to nominally give them equal rights. The fact that the Israeli Declaration of Indpendence "promises" not to discrimate based on race proves nothing. Before you bash Professor Gordon's scholarship, perhaps you should reconsider your own.
4  |   Observer, Alexandria, USA, Tuesday Aug 25, 2009
The real threat here is not so much the word "apartheid" but what it means in terms of precedent--international isolation and sanctions. The obsession over South African apartheid in a world full of apartheid-like systems was never very rational; it said more about white Western leftist obsessions than anything else. What the international Left is doing is using the word "Apartheid" to justify something they are already attempting -- the political isolation and economic destruction of Israel in the name of "justice". Only the USA stands in the way of interference -- and maybe China.
5  |   bannister ,USA, Tuesday Aug 25, 2009
Ask the Victims. Lets hear from some of your Minority Arabs. To hear from the Oppressors or the dominant group about how humane they are treating their victims is not a true discourse .
6  |   Daran, UK, Tuesday Aug 25, 2009
Mr. Troy has made a reasonable case for why the aparteid label does'nt suit Israel proper (every nation has minoirity frictions). He however studiously avoids occupied territories There even the most sincere reasons (settler security for instance) ends up in creations of bantustans either by accident or design.The location of the security barrier to include area's not inside Israel proper. The restrictions on movement, roads not in Isreal, that only Israeli's are allowed to use and the list goes on, Its the actions of Israel in the occupied territory that attracts this label acknowledge that!
7  |   David usa, Tuesday Aug 25, 2009
".......The fact that Israel's Declaration of Independence - and founding document - promises to "uphold the full social and political equality of all its citizens, without distinction of race, creed or sex," proves that Israel rejects racism and by definition cannot be accused of apartheid......." It "proves" ??? :) :) It proves exactly NOTHING ! The proof of the pudding is not in lofty words on paper but in ugly facts on the ground.
8  |   George Khoury, Tuesday Aug 25, 2009
Israel is a thoroughly racist State. If you are not convinced of this most glaring truth about Israel all you have to do is go to the West Bank and the Gaza Strip and see how Palestinians are treated worse than beasts. You talk from your comfortable and lofty lives here in the States, I am a Palestinian and I know what I am talking about. Stop condoning Israel's daily crimes against the Palestinians instead of indulging into delusional wishful thinking about how good Israel is and how "benign" its apartheid is: a woman cannot be a little bit pregnant, she is either pregnant or she is not.
9  |   Vladimir, Tuesday Aug 25, 2009
Jeremy in USA post #3 doesn't know the history of the country that he claims he lives in. US's Declaration doesn't mention race because the Founding Fathers did not consider black Africans as human beings as of the same value as white Europeans. US's Declaration was proclaimed by whites for whites. The Israel's Declaration not only "promises" but "delivers" as well: black jews have the same citizen's rights as white or brown jews, Arabs are elected in Knesset as well as Jews. What do you want?
10  |   Victor Galindo, Tuesday Aug 25, 2009
A professor who has such an enormous lack of discretion and honesty shouldn't teach at any school. This has nothing to do with academic freedom. A professor, or any teacher, should possess good character and scholarship. This professor possesses neither. There is valid and necessary reason to fire him. For a lack of scholarship, the professor could leave with his head held high. For his disgrace, he should go hide in shame - in Gaza with his buddies.
11  |   Guy in Canada, Tuesday Aug 25, 2009
Apartheid isn't the right term- you are right that the situation in Israel is not accuractely compared to that in South Africa. But, as someone pointed out by referencing American Slavery, there is a difference between what a constitution says and what the country actually does. When the Chief Rabbinate of Israel- who has been given near monopolization of marriage, conversion, and burial rights- relies so heavily upon whose mother is "racially" Jewish, one can not say with a straight face that Israel isn't using "race" as means of denying people rights that their own constitution grants.
12  |   Van Rensburgh, Tuesday Aug 25, 2009
Comparing Israeli apartheid to S. African apartheid is a greivous insult to the South African people. S. Africa never subjected peoples to the economic stanglehold, degradation and torture that occur daily to the native people of Palestine. The majority of the people affected by apartheid in S. Africa where immigrants that were in S. Africa for financial oppurtunity. In Israel the people affected are indigenous land holders who have had their property taken by force by colonial action. Nothing like the slaugher of defenseless civilians in "Operation Cast Lead" ever took place in S. Africa.
13  |   zozimos usa, Tuesday Aug 25, 2009
Spot on jack canada! Plenty of land, not counting almost half the African continent being 'the arab world'. Now how did that happen?
14  |   Jeff Sapire - Johannesburg, South Africa, Tuesday Aug 25, 2009
Well done for telling it exactly as it is. I am a 56 year old South African and it makes my blood boil when I see these idiots left wing liberals use the word Apartheid about Israel. Whatever one thinks of Israel and its policies, good or bad, it is NOT apartheid. I would need 50 pages to explain apartheid - with the Pass Laws (blacks had to carry a special book to be in urban areas), and the Immorality Act (no sex between different races), and the 'Whites only' park benches, and the back two rows on the buses reserved for blacks, and how they were robbed of their dignity in every sphere.
15  |   Jan, Australia, Tuesday Aug 25, 2009
Zion is a Hebrew word that implies a 'monumental pillar', 'waymark' 'sign'. For King David who first used it, it meant the gate of the house/dwelling of G-d. To be a Zionist is to value the place of the Temple and the kingdom of David. Zechariah speaks of 2 classes of people: the sons of Zion and the sons of Greece. Mr Troy has shown very well that being an Israeli is not being a Zionist, some are sons of Greece and its philosophy. To divide people on basis of colour that is artificial! This divide over Israel is one of an ethos, and it will extend naturally to all the thinking world.
16  |   Diana Barshaw, Haifa, Israel, Wednesday Aug 26, 2009
Jeremy, just because the USA did not follow their Declaration of Independence for many years says nothing about what we do here in Israel. There are a great many races and religious amount the approximately 7 million citizens of Israel. They all have equal rights including the right to vote, to serve in the government, to free speech, to peaceful protest. Indeed the Arab Israelis are probably freer than any where else in the Arab world. Such are the ironies of the Middle East. For a pleasant view of a different side of Israel visit my website: www.DianaBarshaw.com
17  |   Michael Dar - Tel Aviv, Wednesday Aug 26, 2009
I lately made up a list of specific elements which characterized the Apartheid regime in S-Africa and tried to match them with Israel's reality..there is no way Israel could ever be compared to it. I have lived in Africa and know enough about the Arab-Islamic mentality, codes, traditions etc. to say that they are the real racist. The Arab minority in Israel have it much better than any other minority in any Arab-Islamic country..even than in quite a few of so-called western democratic countries. Gordon tried to prove a "wrong as right" by tendentious intellectual futile acrobatics. Why?
18  |   Adrienne Schwartz, South Africa, Wednesday Aug 26, 2009
a superb analysis and acurate. The ONLY reason the A word is used is to demonize Israel and make it immediately recognizable as a wicked state- quite beyond redemtion. That is how the majority in South Africa veiw Israel. It is a given, an accepted phrase here, disgusting as that may seem, so that even the editor of a major Sunday Newspaper speaks about Israel in that light- especially during Operation Cast Iron. The other favorite thing is to find Jews who will publically denounce Israel and reinforce their slander.
19  |   Bob USA, Wednesday Aug 26, 2009
In light of the fact that short-term perception is more politically determinative than long-term historical hindsight (for the obvious reason), I would say that the author's proposition has merit. I would also suggest (back to the "perception" thing) that its success would depend upon the degree to which Israel's case is perceived (in whatever venues and time frame that count) to diverge from that of South Africa's. I realize that this makes me sound like a nerdy pedant, and for that I beg your indulgence.
20  |   John US, Wednesday Aug 26, 2009
"In the United States, people no longer use the "N-word," the derogatory term for blacks that once was ubiquitous in American discourse. Americans acknowledge the slur's emotional power and the lingering scars from its widespread use. We should start avoiding the "A-word" and confronting those who use it - before it is too late." HOW WRONG YOU ARE. Have you ever been to the US, in a city, on a subway? Whites don't use the N-word, but listen to blacks use it all the time as a term of endearment. They have no respect for themselves and they want us to respect them. Wake up people.
21  |   Lauren Cape Town, Wednesday Aug 26, 2009
As a South African, albeit a white one, I find comparisons with apartheid ludicrous. Jack from Canada, apartheid was not a minor evil. It was major. Arafat began mouthing the apartheid lie way back in 1975. It wasn't accepted then but Arafat just had to continue saying it over and over again. Now it is accepted by the likes of Carter. Arafat and Carter and all the rest have shown how Goebbels' maxim works. Repeat a lie over and over and over again, and eventually it is accepted as the truth. It is part of a mantra that is accepted without any need to think.
22  |   Prof. M. Cohen, Miami, FL, Wednesday Aug 26, 2009
Government-run religious schools in Israel bar children of Ethiopian origin. Elite ultra-Orthodox schools bar observant girls of Mizrachii ancestry. In early July Russian-language Channel 9 overtly compared the US president to a Canaanite slave unfit to rule because of his race. An Russian-Israeli newspaper editor says, "We are all racists, only the Russians think it's legitimate to express that without the prohibitions of political correctness. Or, as we tend to say in a paraphrase on anti-Semitism, 'we aren't racists, we simply hate blacks." (And Arabs.) Solution: ban the A-word!!!
23  |   benyitchak, USA, Wednesday Aug 26, 2009
Excellent article It seems the Elders are unaware of these facts, or if they are aware, what possible motivation would they have for wrongly accusing Israel of Apartheid. Maybe they are really the Elder Fools
24  |   Cape Town Rabbi B'sof Hamaarav, Wednesday Aug 26, 2009
Gil Troy is absolutely correct that those who slander Israel with the apartheid label also insult the South African struggle. But who in Europe or the USA really care about South African feelings? And the Jews you can forget about. This is all about a convenient political lexicon for antisemitism and narcisstic political self-righteousness.The problem at this stage is that people want to pass their responsibilities onto a messiah or an Obamashiach. Even if we try to place "Zionism is Apartheid" under the ban and shame those who equate the two, we won't get public support.
25  |   Cape Town Rabbi B'sof Hammarav, Wednesday Aug 26, 2009
That is why I say over and over again: Bring our rainbow youth nation from Israel and Zionist youth groups around the world to the campuses of the West. Let the libel be refuted through people's own eyes and ears. Fund it immediately! It is because the South African Jewish community is so much in the faces of their fellow South Africans that they have relegated anti-Zionism to the sidelines, and although the media still spouts it, the decision makers know exactly what the score is. The problem in the West is that the decisionmakers inspire more fear than confidence.
26  |   MM (Melbounne, Australia, Thursday Aug 27, 2009
Apartheid: "From the Afrikaans word meaning 'separation' apartheid was a social philosophy which enforced racial, social, and economic segregation on the people of South Africa". If this is not the current situation in Israel/Palestine then it was not apartheid then either. Mr Troy and all of his supporters the world over can deny this until the cows come home. The fact of the matter is that the term is being applied by so many because it is true. Repeat the mantra people: NO JUSTICE - NO PEACE
27  |   jack canada, Thursday Aug 27, 2009
For #21 Lauren. It all depends on who you are and how you look at it whether apartheid was a minor evil or not. It was certainly unacceptable in the SA case. But compared to Nazism, and compared to what the Arabs have done to the Jews, and continue to do, and will continue, willy-nilly to do until they are stopped, it was a spit in the bucket. The comparison does not even begin. So apartheid, so what?
28  |   Jack Schwartz - JerusaLEM, Thursday Aug 27, 2009
to George the Arabic-speaking Christian, try to remember George that when the Land of Israel was under Islamic dispensation, both Jews and Christians were inferior by explicit law, the Muslim Shari`ah law, to Muslims, all Muslims. However, the Jews were at the bottom of the social barrel, oppressed, harassed, persecuted and humiliated by both Muslims and Christians. This was attested by none other than Karl Marx in the New York Tribune of 15 April 1854. I live in Israel and your depiction of us is false.
29  |   SA rabbi BSof HaMaarav, Thursday Aug 27, 2009
MM-the people who really have it in for Israel, like yourself, are coming from ideology and religious positions which are very much on the defensive in the world - Marxism, Socialism, Islam --How convenient to deflect the criticism heaped upon them onto the world's oldest scapegoat. As from antiquity, the Jews have always been the bearer of the bad news to the naively self-righteous, whether political or moralistic, "you and everyone else are not as perfect as you imagine or wish to be!" The underlying core of the Arab-Israeli conflict is that "'the good' (you) is the enemy of 'the better.'"
30  |   Bill Alabama, Thursday Aug 27, 2009
To #6 from the UK; There are no occupied lands. The Balfour declaration gave what you erroneously call "occupied" to the Jewish people, who have lived in the Holy Land continously for 3,600 years. It was the British who allowed massive immigration of Arabs who had no connection to the Holy Land from the 1920s until 1948. Britain was complicit with Hitler's holocaust by refusing to let in Jews attempting to escape the holocaust while encouraging Arab immigration. Jews don't need a lecture on morality from the Brits who are the most immoral people in history.
31  |   A Former Student, USA, Friday Aug 28, 2009
Those who throw around the term 'apartheid' usually do so in order to justify the murder of innocent Jewish men, women, and children. Their jealousy of Israel knows no bounds, and they can't stand the fact that Israel is a sovereign and prosperous country THAT IT IS HERE TO STAY.
32  |   Dean Canada, Saturday Aug 29, 2009
As usual, defenders of Israel brag about the rights of those living in Israel while conveniently ignoring the total lack of basic rights of Arabs in the occupied territories. There may have been a time that the world was uninformed enough to be confused by this deception, but those days are long past. Call it what you want, debate the terms so as to confuse the issue, but the reality remains. Israel treats the Arabs in the occupied territories like dirt, and denies them basic rights. Israel is committing suicide as we watch. Like a drunk driving off a cliff, they listen only to themselves.
33  |   DavidM USA, Saturday Aug 29, 2009
Neve Gordon learned that the foreign press corps is seeking any Israeli they can find to use the apartheid word. The foreign press corps will reward any Israeli willing to use this word with lots of praise and publicity. Mr. Gordon, whose articles had never been published before, gets featured in the Los Angeles Times and he apparently loves it. Before he used the word, Neve Gordon was an obscure academic, unknown even on the BGU campus. Now, thanks to his willingness to accuse Israelis of the most heinous crime he is a darling of the foreign media. That says it all.
34  |   Steven Chicago, Saturday Aug 29, 2009
#8, Whatever misary Pals endure in the West Bank and Gaza is sole the responsibility of your so called leaders.
35  |   Michael Vanyukov, Pittsburgh, PA, USA, Saturday Aug 29, 2009
Gordon wants Israel boycotted (he might leave for Sweden to work for Aftonbladet if that happens) to press it into giving self-determination to Palestinian Arabs. They, however, have repeatedly refused from accepting it from whoever offered them statehood: League of Nations, UN, and, several times, Israel. Moreover, there is already an Arab state in the historic and mandatory Palestine (Jordan) with Palestinian Arab majority (if it can be distinguished at all from Bedouin Arabs), which could settle all Pal. "refugees" within it. "Self-determination" is therefore Gordon's red herring (see #33).
36  |   Daran, Saturday Aug 29, 2009
Bill @# 30 Unfortunately you seem to be unaware of the facts. Your pathetic smear against Britain I will just ignore. However your delusion about the status of the occupied territory is not shared by international law and not even by the Supreme court of Israel or the current AG in Israel.. So you can research the facts the judgement of the court on 30 June 2002. Belligerent occupation under military rule.
37  |   George Boros, Montreal, Sunday Aug 30, 2009
McGill history professor Gil Troy says that Israeli campuses have academic freedom. It's laudable as long as it doesn't lead to the "academic freedom". of Berkley or, indeed, McGill. We can see and experience the results of this "freedom" in the teachings of these Marxist/Leninist/ Maoist professors and their students. God save Israel, the U.S. and Canada from these academics. George Boros
38  |   Sharona Israel, Sunday Aug 30, 2009
To Dean Canada, Palestinian terrorists live in the Judea and Samaria. The rest of the population supports the terrorists. Tha Gazans elected terrorists. And no terrorists don't have rights. We have the right to defend ourselves against them. Did you read where Abbas himself said life was good there? It is they who practice, preach, defend and DEMAND and Apartheid Judenrein state. NOT Israel. Also remember that Muslims do not extend even the most basic rights to women. All Arab women in Israel have more rights than in any Muslim country. Get the facts-you make all Canadians look ignorant.
39  |   Linda, Springfield, Illinois, U.S.A., Sunday Aug 30, 2009
Blacks couldn't be bought as slaves without other blacks selling them in native Africa. 500,000 Americans died in the Civil War for their freedom and the score was settled 144 years ago. As for the Palestinians, they too are pawns set up by their own leaders to keep the unnatural hate fires burning in Israel, as racial divisions are stirred up yet again in the U.S. Hypocrisy knows no bounds. Our African Colonial Commander-In-Chief is no friend of Israel and you will see the deconstruction of the United States before your very eyes while we aide Israel's enemies at every turn.
40  |   Shlomo, Israel, Sunday Aug 30, 2009
Arabs in Judea and Shomron definitely have rights, amongst them the right to appeal deciisions in Israeli courts, the right to publish their opinions and the right to practice their religion. Those rights were severly constrained after the Oslo agreements by the PA itself. Even in the height of Arab violence, Arabs were not deprived of their basic rights and restrictions on movement were aimed at preventing Arabs from mudering Jews, not as sanctions or as reprisal. Time to take down the roadbloocks of lies erected by the Arabs and their supporters.
41  |   Reuven Feinstein, Sunday Aug 30, 2009
This is fine advice on the "A" word...I fully agree. But the advice on Neve Gordon is another matter. Gordon is an extremist who would have Israel destroyed. For a time, he prevented the murderer of Tourim Minister Rehavim Zeevi from being captured. He gave protection and comfort to Arafat. He has no place in an Israeli university. He should be fired....and so should his Ben Gurion University buddy, Jeff Halper.
42  |   Speakout, Norway, Sunday Aug 30, 2009
to Lady Daran # 30 in Britain; before lecturing anybody else, could you pls. explain how it is common reading that Britain is soon becoming an "apartheid" unity (G-d forbid me using this word) - while you now can see with your own bare eyes how English cities are virtually beeing taken over by foreign communities, whether Hindu or Moslem. This is segregation in practise and maybe a payoff of how you treated the Boer communities in the second Boer war just 110 years ago. It is disgusting to watch and a very poor signal for Europe as a whole. Tell us about Britain in 50 years from now ..
43  |   Nic, Sweden, Sunday Aug 30, 2009
Mr Troy, your petty attempt to "academize" the term apartheid will unfortunately, for Israel, not fly. The facts on the ground is that non-jews are treated as less worth citizens. You know it, I know it, the world knows it. As long as you and other keep trying to "get away with murder" in broad day light, Israel will make itself increasingly distanced from (former..?) friendly countries. "To shoot oneself in the foot" is an expressions used in my country. That is exactly what Israel does, on a daily basis, since more than 40 years. It's tragic.
44  |   TrailBlazer, Norway, Sunday Aug 30, 2009
Imaging such lack of historical knowledge like this Mr. Swede/"43 brings forth; it's more than ironic that someone is capable of presenting such nonsense. Pls. open your own history book, Mr. know-it-all, and you will see how close Sweden was in making common cause with the Nazis during summer 1942. And all periods since the Swedes have nothing at all to brag about - it was just an excuse to be able to harvest from all seas - like the demised Olof Palme - a socialist and opportunist - but Mr. Swede should humble hself and admit his government should wave the white flag following shame article !
45  |   TrailBlazer, Norway, Sunday Aug 30, 2009
Truth is much closer than # 43 Nic could ever conceive; he has barely opened a history book, but - like most Europeans - for 40 years having his daily nuture from secularist, progressive and left wing media dominating all Mr. Swede has got to read about conflict in MidEast. Just admit..plain and simple.. he tries to sound rational - but it simply does not work.. Same desease in neighbour country Norway..
46  |   Raymond in DC, Washington USA, Sunday Aug 30, 2009
The fact that Arabs from East Jerusalem and in the Arab Triangle area have made clear they do *not* want to fall under the Palestinian Authority, that they prefer life under Israeli rule than under the Palestinians should give pause to those with Pavlovian hostility to Israel whatever she does. As to that piece of slime Gordon and the boycott of BGU, those of us who want to support the institution but don't want to subsidize the post-Zionist self hatred he and his colleagues represent are stymied. We want to support the good BGU does, but money is fungible. Gordon will still get paid.
47  |   Bonita Angelini, Sunday Aug 30, 2009
Don't continue to live in this state of denial re: the segregation and discrimination of the state or Israel toward Palestinians living in East Jerusalem, Gaza and the West Bank. Face reality. Here's Webster's definition of the word apartheid: [ Link to page ] " rel="nofollow">apartheid With a few adjustments, voila! If the shoe fits...
48  |   Yoav Naor, Monday Aug 31, 2009
I agree with Gil Troy,that getting rid of that loud mouthed Neve Gordon is counter productive,why don't we just tar and feather him instead,and parade him down Dizengoff Street in full view of his loony left peers. No stoning allowed.
49  |   Daran, UK, Monday Aug 31, 2009
prehaps trailblazer and Bill I could discuss the conduct of Britian in history on another occasssion. I still would like either of them to comment on the facts. I think most posters will realise that their smears against Britian are not realated to some higher moral standard but rather an attempt to avoid the issue in question. The facts are not one nation on the planet recognises post 67 situtation. As pointed out in my post #6 its not that Israel is an apartied state its not, its the conduct in the occupied terrority that draws these disparaging analogies. I support Israel as a jewish state
50  |   Speakout, Norway, Monday Aug 31, 2009
Dear #49 Daran; teacher : Daran, did you do your homework on MidEast ? Daran : No - but I once read about the terrible apartheid regimes of SA and Namib ! Teacher : Do you think that will leave you with the answers for today ? Daran : Yes, teacher, I believe history of Israel and SA/Namib are complementary ! Teacher : but who taught you this ? Daran : Oh, that's simple - I have read the newspapers and watched TV and that's what I need to know.... ok Daran..enough..sorry - but this is what friends of Israel meet all the time - nothing of historical foundation - very few with solid knowledge..
51  |   Daran UK, Tuesday Sep 01, 2009
LOL did you even read it before you sought to repliy??? Speakout/Trail I make no link to Israel and the apartied regimmes in SA, I do however say that conduct in the occupied terrritories is illegitimate. Those (prehaps you are one Speakout) who deny that occupation even exist's and then go on to counter with smears and "dialogue" tricks only do so because they lack the ablitiy to refute the facts. I take an interest in the real Isreal, not the imaginings of people who let ideological preferances cloud their judgement to such a extent they depart from reality.
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J.M.Jordan, Germany: Professor Troy, thanks! It would be just lovely to hear more abt everyday simple harmonic normal life, with like here somewhere a discrete hint at the place's real mix so it's even more of a joy. Best of all naturally, as a wise man of an Indian tribe once put it, never judge before having three weeks worn "the other's'" shoes. (What if everybody besides reporting beautiful normal things they experienced themselves tried to get a chance to do just that!)
Scott from Philadelphia: Right on point, as always. What a breath of fresh air it is to hear Israel referred to in a context other than one embedded with discord. Prof. Troy, home run yet a gain.
Colin Bradley DK: citizens of a new host nation, yet still with some Palestinian affiliation: in fact rather like todays Jewish Diaspora many of whom still choose to remain in their original lands, but keep close contact with Israel?