Thursday Oct 15, 2009

Center Field: An open letter in response to J-street's

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Dear Jeremy Ben-Ami,

Allow me to respond to your open letter to Ambassador Michael Oren with an open letter of my own.

I share your worry "that the connection to Israel for a large number of Jewish Americans has become strained over time." I love your statement to the Ambassador, and presumably to the entire pro-Israel community, that "what J-Street shares in common with you far outweighs that on which we disagree." As someone trying to figure out how to sing a new song of Zion for the next generation of Jews and as someone who champions "big-tent" Zionism, like there was during the movement's early days, it sounds like you're singing my song.

Alas, when I examine what you advocate and what you ignore, when I read your statements, surf your website and look at your conference program, I am troubled. For starters, I do not see the use of the word "Zionism" anywhere. I wonder if that is tactical or ideological.

I wonder if you would display on your website the following statement:

Year after year, century after century, Jews carried on their traditions, and their dream of a homeland, in the face of impossible oddsÂ…. And I deeply understood the Zionist idea - that there is always a homeland at the center of our story."

Those are the words of then-Senator Barack Obama, spoken on June 4, 2008, the day after he clinched the nomination.

Or what about this:

My starting point when I think about the Middle East is this enormous emotional attachment and sympathy for Israel, mindful of its history, mindful of the hardship and pain and suffering that the Jewish people have undergone, but also mindful of the incredible opportunity that is presented when people finally return to a land and are able to try to excavate their best traditions and their best selves."

Obama again. If President Obama is not afraid to affirm Zionist ideals, why do you seem to be?

Note on your website the comment that:

The Palestinian people are likely to continue to nurture an anger that leads some to armed struggle as long as there is no mutually accepted resolution to the underlying political conflict."

True, Palestinian anger must be acknowledged. But why do I hear nothing about the other phenomenon that must be acknowledged, Israeli anguish? Why do I hear nothing from you about the 850,000 Jewish refugees expelled from Arab lands, decades of Arab rejectionism, Palestinian anti-Semitism, the fact that withdrawal under Oslo and after the Gaza disengagement has only fed more violence, or the pain of Israelis whose blood has been spilled over the years? Why have I not heard a J-Street statement as passionate as this one:

The first job of any nation-state is to protect its citizens.... If somebody was sending rockets into my house, where my two daughters sleep at night, I'm going to do everything in my power to stop that. And I would expect Israelis to do the same thing."

That, too, was said by President Obama, during his visit to Sderot in July, 2008. Without the assurance that Israel's pain is felt, without understanding that Israel faces a series of untenable choices when defending its people against terrorists who hide among civilians, without noticing that Oslo and Disengagement triggered more violence, the "peace of the brave" we all seek is reduced to a delusion - or an anti-Israel mugging.

I understand your desire to be evenhanded, and believe there is room in the pro-Israel and Zionist movements for voices such as yours. I hope that from your "J-Street" address you can see the Golden Path to a solution. My fear, though, is that you can only see Israeli sins and not Palestinian crimes; that your mythical address prevents you from seeing the facts on the ground we see in Israel, on campus, in the UN and elsewhere. I would love to see progressive voices lead the fight against the ugly campaign to de-legitimize Israel. We need civil rights activists who fought against apartheid to repudiate the libel falsely comparing the Israeli-Palestinian nationalist conflict to South African whites' ugly racist oppression. We need people with impeccable progressive credentials willing to confront the Arab dictatorships, condemn Muslim homophobia, racism, and sexism, and to denounce terrorism.

Instead, I see a conference program more comfortable with finger-pointing at Israel. Why not call your "Messaging 'Pro-Israel, Pro-Peace'" session "Pro-Israel, Pro-Peace and Anti-Delegitimization," acknowledging how much the rejection of Israel harms the peace process (just as most Israelis learned in the 1990s that denying Palestinian nationalism is counter-productive)? Will "Israel on Campus," address the dilemmas so many students face: Attacks on Israel are so extreme, they fear any constructive criticism of Israel they utter will be used as fodder to continue demonizing their homeland - and all too often, their people?

And I would be more comfortable with the Americans for Peace Now session "West Bank Settlements: Obstacles on the Road to Peace," if anything in the conference program acknowledged the "Obstacles on the Road to Peace" constituted by the Hamas charter, terrorism, demagoguery in mosques, rabble-rousing on the Temple Mount, harassment of Palestinian moderates, refusal to acknowledge Jewish rights to the land, Arab anti-Semitism, etc.

I hate to sound so unwelcoming. I believe there is no inherent contradiction between being progressive and being a Zionist, that Israel represents a remarkable attempt to establish liberal, democratic and Jewish values in the Middle East. We need a broad coalition of pro-Israel forces. But my sense is that Ambassador Oren senses what I sense. You find it easier to bash Israel than to criticize Israel's adversaries. Maybe the burden is on you to establish some street cred by fighting the anti-Israel delegitimizers, the anti-Semitic anti-Zionists, who are affronts to what you so eloquently call "the values we bring to the table as Jews and as Americans."

In friendship,

 Gil

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1  |   Rabbi Dan, Cleveland Ohio, Thursday Oct 15, 2009
Excellent post. Gil points out the fact that in its attempt to appeal to the Left, J Street will bash Israel and champion its enemies without pointing out any of their crimes.
2  |   PZ, Thursday Oct 15, 2009
Gil, this is a joke. You are the one attacking J-Street -- burden is on YOU. This false need to establish "street cred" has no place in true "big-tent" Zionism. Though I'm sure you believe yourself to be, as expressed here, you are no true big-tent Zionist.
3  |   John R, Thursday Oct 15, 2009
I have no problem defending ones homeland. I have a problem (as does JStreet) with how Israel defines its borders. In 1967, Theodor Meron the legal counsel to the Israeli Foreign Ministry was asked by PM Levi Eschol what the legality was of Israeli West Bank settlements. He replied he thought they violated the 4th Geneva Convention. Four UNSC resolutions latter, the UN concluded the same thing. Two Intern'l Ct of Justice rulings concluded the same thing as well as the illegality of the annexation of East Jerusalem and the route of the security barrier. Israel's own (continued)
4  |   John R, Thursday Oct 15, 2009
I have no problem defending ones homeland. I have a problem (as does JStreet) with how Israel defines its borders. In 1967, Theodor Meron the legal counsel to the Israeli Foreign Ministry was asked by PM Levi Eschol what the legality was of Israeli West Bank settlements. He replied he thought they violated the 4th Geneva Convention. Four UNSC resolutions latter, the UN concluded the same thing. Two Intern'l Ct of Justice rulings concluded the same thing as well as the illegality of the annexation of East Jerusalem and the route of the security barrier. Israel's own (continued)
5  |   David USA, Thursday Oct 15, 2009
.... (just as most Israelis learned in the 1990s that denying Palestinian nationalism is counter-productive)... Really ??? There is NO indication that "most Israelis" learned anything of the sort ! To the contrary, they seem to have learned the opposite. One keeps readin and hearing that "there is no such people as Palestinians- is that not so ?
6  |   Dr Dan in USA, Thursday Oct 15, 2009
GIl is way too nice. Jeremy should never have posted an anti-Lieberman diatribe on his J Street website. And now that the election is over and Lieberman has been doing such a good job as Foreign Minister with Russia and so many other countries, rethinking the foundations of Israeli foreign policy, Jeremy should certainly have pulled down his pre-election Lieberman bashing, issue an apology and post an analysis of all the good that Foreign Minister Lieberman has done. To create a Jewish villain is hate crime in a world looking for scapegoats. Why not invite Foreign Minister Lieberman ?
7  |   beth troy silver spring md, Thursday Oct 15, 2009
bravo to you gil, for posting your open letter to j street -- eloquently expressing what so many of us believe and fail to articulate! israel is central to jewish life -- and yet for so many jews in the diaspora, the word 'zionism' is propogated as something shameful and evil... what an irony! thank you for elucidating all the facts...and representing the feelings of the majority of israel loving jews everywhere...
8  |   Lou D USA, Thursday Oct 15, 2009
Good responce by Mr Troy to "J" Street.. Eric Hoffer said it best..I paraphrase his qoute.. "Israel is the only nation in the world that is not entitled to defend itself and is not allowed to make peace with its enemies that it just defeated.. Only Israel is condemmend from winning wars!" Lets re name "J" street to "Anti J" street. Sympathy for those who want to kill us Jews is sick!
9  |   Jonathan Zucker, Thursday Oct 15, 2009
HERE HERE!! Terrific post professor. Israel itself is a fairly liberal society and like them, the liberals in the US must also understand that being liberal doesn't mean that you roll over in the face of your enemies' aggression. Great liberals of the past were among the most notable fighters and protectors of liberty in the world. Nothing should change today. There is no contradiction in "fighting for peace". Sometimes you are forced to fight hard in order to protect yourself. Denying that there are people out there with the intent of destroying you is simply self destructive.
10  |   Theodore, India, Thursday Oct 15, 2009
one of the best in recent days. Well blanced. God Bless.
11  |   dennis snapper netanya, Thursday Oct 15, 2009
Let those who critisize Israel at every opportune moment think about this: In 61 years we took an arid land and grew gardens, we settled the desert and grow fruits and vegtables where only snakes and scorpions dwelled. We built a vibrant nation that is the leader in the medical field, the agricultrual field, and have a booming economy.ll you antisemites reflect on that and wash out your dirty little mouths.
12  |   PZ, Friday Oct 16, 2009
This isnt serious, Gil. I do believe youre sincere in intending to be a big-tent Zionist, but that becomes meaningless concept when standard is: "No one to Gil's left." I mean, of course expressed "constructive criticism" of pro-Israel voices to your left feels like "finger-pointing" to you -- what did you expect? Theyre to your left! A healthy Zionism necessitates that galuti pro-Israel activism include at very least the same spectrum of positions as the Israeli Zionist spectrum. Trying to police some boundary between his "finger-pointing" and her "constructive criticism" hurts Israel.
13  |   Scott, Friday Oct 16, 2009
Gil, I commend you. You are seemingly the only rational voice from the left, and it is truly a shame. Growing up around all Democratic Jews, I turned neo-con after living in Jerusalem for only 6 months. Ever since, I have consciously tried to learn from all sides of the spectrum, and am constantly disappointed with the idealism and complaisant optimism espoused constantly by the left. Please keep it up! Consider your book purchased.
14  |   ben yaakov, Friday Oct 16, 2009
1) Why only Jewish angst? Why not Jewish anger? 2) More than a MILLION Jewish refugees! 850,000 is how many went to Israel. 3) 62 years of war, intimidation, incitement....Why only angst? Why not Jewish anger? Again, why only angst? Why not Jewish anger?
15  |   Reuven, Friday Oct 16, 2009
Gil's statement was fine. But I differ with Gil in one respect. Knowing that J Street is toxic to Israel, unlike Gil, I have absolutely no friendship for it.
16  |   JimO USA, Friday Oct 16, 2009
Obama a Zionist? Obama says a lot of things. He said he did not bow; but he did. He said he would not have any lobbyist in his administration; he has several lobbyist in his administration. Obama said he would use a scapulae to cut the budget, he has easily quadruped the deficit. How could progressive and Zionism not be a contradiction? They are on two different sides in the battle of good and evil. The Progressive movement and J Street are Israel's enemy. Have you ever noticed nearly all conservatives are pro-Israel? Hmm.
17  |   EW, Friday Oct 16, 2009
Pal. Arabs are not nation.Whatever definitions of nation exist they do not meet their criteria. How Jordan became state.? In non-sexual act of procreation British Foregn Offiice draw line along Jordan Riv. & state of Jordan was born . But West from Jordan Riv. it was supposed to be " Jewish home" . Arabs "inside" this territory are the same Arabs that "outside' , in Jordan. Many Arab states were created by this method. You can occupy only what is others sovereignity. After Jordan ceded W Bank it has no sovereighn status. Stil it may become state. Its procreator is PM Rabin.
18  |   Jae New England, Friday Oct 16, 2009
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but it is doubtful if a single word of change comes out of ben Ari's mouth. He's too egotistical, also too concerned with what non Jews think and also what Jews who have little ties to Zion, our homeland, and Judaism (and thus support j street), think. It had to be written though. The effort needs to always be made. Good try, really. Nicely written.
19  |   Chaim - Israel, Friday Oct 16, 2009
Gil Troy makes many good points in his response to J Street's ludicrous characterization of itself as "Pro Israel". However, it is a major mistake to allow the likes of J Street to go unchallenged when they call themselves "progressive". Groups with a clearly destructive agenda towards Israel should not be allowed to hijack this word. The only "progress" J Street advances is the staged destruction of Israel's security and viability. To our bloodthirsty enemies, that is indeed progress. But certainly not for Israel.
20  |   Zeki Ergas, Geneva, Switzerland, Friday Oct 16, 2009
Jews are supposed to have common sense. Pragmatic, realistic and practical intelligence. The question is: Why keep building all these settlements when you know that you will not be able to keep them? Because, one thing is certain now: sooner or later the occupied territories will have to be returned. So it is foolish, it is even stupid. Unless, of course, the whole thing is motivated by fanatical belief.It is too bad really: all this incredible investment, all this losing fight, for nothing.
21  |   Chris USA, Saturday Oct 17, 2009
Can't see the forest thru the trees eh? Israel has 12 faces and assuming only one makes alternate interpretations difficult. Ben-Ami and Obama make statements equally valid for jews or palestinian forced conversions depending on whether one interprets Israel as 1 tribe or 12. In the case of the latter the conflict is a religious war predicated on Israel's responsibility to either redeem its lost sheep or join them. In that context the current conflict can be interpreted as a divine punishment against Judah for not seeking out its lost brethren. Time tells no lies.
22  |   Chris USA, Saturday Oct 17, 2009
When considering jewish insularity it is worthy to note that an all or nothing approach constitutes a guaranteed recipe for failure with an increasing probability for assimulation. Insularity protects against assimulation when it is applied in a way that protects Judaism yet is open enough to also allow propagation. Such flexibility requires prudent management and application of relations with the nations. When Judaism is strong you don't put it under a basket and when it is weak you don't expose it to the wind. Time tells no lies - the truth is proved right by its results.
23  |   Chris USA, Saturday Oct 17, 2009
While I disagree with J Street's past practice I see the wisdom of what they say. What is needed is a sure guide for J Street to follow until they establish some credibility in what they claim. They need demonstrated results first before laying claim to a greater good in their motivation. Until then the are only talking not doing. The word and the deed must go hand in hand.
24  |   MrGratefulFred - Israel, Saturday Oct 17, 2009
Some beings will sell out their soul for a buck and JStreet run by Jeremy Ben-Ami is such a hyenna - right Scar?. Just as Israel bans a group a terrorist group we as a nation should also band JStreet, and others to come, as an anti-lobby group. They won't be the first and won't be the last.
25  |   flower, USA, Sunday Oct 18, 2009
An Israel basher is no firend of Israel.A group of people who makes it a point to criticize Israel and not her enemies is an enemy of Israel.J street is phoney balony.It wants us to love it while it hates us.So , guess what , we despise you and mostly your severe lack of honesty and decency.
26  |   Carlo, Ferney-Voltaire, France, Sunday Oct 18, 2009
Gil Troy commendably seeks those "willing to confront the Arab dictatorships, condemn Muslim homophobia, racism, and sexism, and to denounce terrorism", yet seems so blinkered by his "facts on the ground" that he is unable to imagine even the slightest reason why Diaspora Jews might wish to distance themselves from Israel. Does even-handedness not require application of the same critical standards to all, to friends as well as to adversaries? Do international legal norms apply only to other states and not to Israel? Is he unaware of the implications of occupation, for example?
27  |   sasha, US, Sunday Oct 18, 2009
Obamas worlds and dids are alwais opposite
28  |   David, Sunday Oct 18, 2009
Thank you Gil for so eloquently expressing what the mainstream believes.
29  |   Grant Freedom - Florida, Sunday Oct 18, 2009
Let's be honest OK? , J Street is noithing more than a Jewish political cover for Obama's racist hatred of Israel It was designed to keep liberal/leftis Jews loyal to the "great annointed one." even thoiugh he is rhe worst American Preiident that Israel has had to deal with. And that includes Jimmy Carter, Grant Freedom
30  |   Jay Goldberg, Illinois, USA, Sunday Oct 18, 2009
Why do I get the feeling that J-Street is basically dishonest? These people have every right to their opinions, but they attempt to hide them under a cloak of false pro-Israel rhetoric. I too am a liberal and I too often criticize Israel's policies. I do not support the Jewish settlers, but let's not forget that the current Israeli rightwing government was elected after the Palestinians rejected a fair peace deal that included the removal of Jewish settlers. There are enough anti-Israel voices in this world. We could do without another one disguised as pro-Israel.
31  |   dan leubitz, Sunday Oct 18, 2009
well said. Join the hundreds on facebook who have declared jstreet does not represent them [ Link to page ]
32  |   Ben Ami, Tel Aviv, Israel, Sunday Oct 18, 2009
We really need to get one thing clear: Obama is not anti-Israel and it is irresponsible to say otherwise. True, Obama is not George Bush (and he seems to be getting a Nobel prize for that), but he still represents the United States, which is Israel's strongest and closest ally. So let's be more responsible in how we label Obama. We may not agree with all his does (as we agreed with Bush), but god help us if we ever lose the support of this or any other US president. Let's not forget that the US administration is still a great supporter of Israel, and Obama is the head of that administration.
33  |   john, Monday Oct 19, 2009
why Ben Ami ? In 1948 only G-d helped us ! do you believe this ? ok ? maybe not, but then we did it all ourselves. In 1967, who helped us ? the french ? the US had an arms embargo on Israel and were supplying inteliigence to the Arabs on where Israeli forces were. The US has opposed every single Israeli War. Their so-called aid is tax credits to buy weapons - keynsian funding of the US war industries. Give me a break. We need the US like a hole in the head.
34  |   david, Monday Oct 19, 2009
If J Street could give birth to a P Street comprised of Palestinians and other Arabs who are prepared to call on their leaders to recognize Israel as the national homeland of the Jewish people, to abandon the right of return and to unequivocally condemn terrorism and the indiscriminate rocketing of Israeli population centres, then J Street would have done a great service for the Jewish people. Regrettably it takes two to tango and the Palestinian Authority is in no mood to dance.
35  |   samuel RSA, Monday Oct 19, 2009
Who funds J-street and what exactly is it,s agenda as it sounds rather confusing to say the least ?To quote Obama and his thoughts about Israel are misleading ,just another leftwing/liberal smoke screen to cover Arab intransigence and crimes against humanity .Why is the butcher of Sudan still at home in his palace and not at the ICC in the Hague locked up in a prison cell awaiting his day with destiny on crimes against humanity ,the slaughter of millions of non- muslims in Darfur .Has J-street taken up this matter in the UN and if not why not?
36  |   samuel RSA, Monday Oct 19, 2009
The Palestinian homeland is called Jordan and it,s future leaders live there as evidenced by their daily reports for the world media .Hanan Ashrawi ,Nabil Shaath ,Saeb Erekat ,Moustafa Barghouti and others in the Fatah movement reside in Ramallah or Aman so why don,t they declare their Palestinian state and get down to business ,running the homeland as stated in 1948 by the League of Nations ,which was supposed to live next to Israel ,in peace and prosperity ? Lies and distortions of history are typical leftwing tools that try to mislead the general public ,what,s new.in politics?
37  |   samuel RSA, Monday Oct 19, 2009
When will there be an enquiry or audit of the Fatah/Palestinian books as there seems to a lot of taxpayers (American)money uacccounted for? Swiss banks are bulging at their hinges with billions of dollars meant for refugees and their final resettlement in Jordan ye tthe camps still seethe with resent ment against Israel ,as if it,s the Jewish problem.Does the Obama administration with J-street recognise this problem or are they eager to sweep it under the White House carpet until next time?
38  |   samuel RSA, Monday Oct 19, 2009
Another bloody day in the Muslim world with Sunnis and Shiias killing each other tit for tat (Iran) yet we have propagandists who will have us believe that Israel can take in millions of so called Arab refugees .Thanks but no ,Israel doesn,t want or need Muslim killers roaming the streets in Jerusalem ,Tel -aviv ,Haifa ,on the orders of the Ayatollah in Tehran or the Revolutionary Guards ,his personal army.The left wing /liberals only see what they want to as it suits their agenda (hiding from Islamofascism) hoping that they will be left alone when the fascists come knocking on doors .
39  |   Wally, Monday Oct 19, 2009
My response to J Street has been an angry one, because the message he disseminates is so blatently hostile to equal rights for Jews in Israel to survive. I applaud Gil Troy for responding to Ben-Ami in an intelligent manner. Blog entries like this one won't convince self-hating Jews to stop defaming Israel, but they might strip the defamation of its credibility before the public. It's good to be smart. Please keep up the good work, Mr. Troy.
40  |   brynababy, Los Angeles, CA, Thursday Oct 22, 2009
Superb analysis of JStreet. I rejected their "invitation" to join, but Mr. Troy clearly and accuratetly stated what felt so wrong to me about this organization and it's self agrandizing leader.
41  |   Wallace Edward Brand, Thursday Oct 22, 2009
The "Palesrian People" and their apocryphal quest for liberation,are a scam worked by the Soviet masters of Propaganda according to Pacepa, the highest Soviet bloc defector during the cold war. Iarael is not faced with a secular quest for national liberation but rather faced with global jihad. On which side of that holy war does J street stand?
42  |   Bruce USA, Saturday Oct 24, 2009
Excellent open letter with a caveat. Obama is no Zionist. He is adept at telling whatever audience he is speaking with exactly what they want to hear. J-Street is dangerous. Here's my open question to J-Street. Prior to the 1967 War Jordan controlled the West Bank and Egypt Gaza. There wasn't a single word about the Palestinians or a Pal state. Why? I'll answer that for you J-streeters...because there is no such thing as a "Palestinian People' with any legitimate right to the land. Palestinians are simply a concocted lie in order to destroy the state of Israel.
43  |   Eiran Gazit, Lenox MA, Monday Oct 26, 2009
Thank you Gil Troy. Thank you for your eloquent answer and your bravery in publishing it. It seems to me that the J street initiative is a self promoting, extreme left wing and horribly naive group of pundits who will have very little real impact on anything. Thank you for giving middle of the road Israelis and Jews a voice to express the disdain they feel for JStreet - as they do for ALL extremists.
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