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Tuesday Jan 15, 2008
The Weekly Portion: Two grave scenarios unfolding Posted by MK Ephraim Sneh
Comments: 20
Last week's most pressing event was undoubtedly President Bush's visit to Israel and the Palestinian Authority. And not only because of the frustrating traffic congestion that gripped Jerusalem, the ceremonies, the dinners and the provincial bickering about who was invited and who was not. This visit was vital for us Israelis in that the leader of the most powerful country in the world came and reminded us and the Palestinians of the importance and urgency of reaching a mutual agreement. Based on the cynical and mocking media reactions, one could have thought the conflict was Bush's problem and not ours. Alternatively, one could see Bush and Condoleeza Rice as a bothersome couple that pushes us to deal with an issue that perhaps holds no importance, for anyone. In 2007, not even a single suicide bombing attack was carried out inside Israel. This success is attributed to the great efforts of the IDF and the Shin Bet (Israel's security agency). However, this blessed quiet hides the catastrophic processes taking place and creates an impression of complacence to the public. Presently, "only" thirty thousands residents of the Gaza periphery and Sderot are essentially paying the price of the conflict. Their lives are not actual lives but the rest of Israel's population - 7 million people - do not sense so. Due to the lack of an agreement to our continued occupation of the West Bank, to the increasing authority of Hamas in the Gaza Strip, two grave scenarios are unfolding: One - The failure of the attempts to bring about a solution of two states for two people only reinforces the notion of the one-state solution. In a bi-national state between Jordan and the Mediterranean, there is currently a population of 54% Jews and 46% Arabs. Should the Palestinians despair and give up hope of achieving their own state, they will start to ask for equal rights in a shared state. Calls for this solution are multiplying greatly. It would be an end to the Zionist dream and a recipe for a country modeled after Lebanon, where mutual killings do not cease, and when they do, it is only for short periods. Two - Should the current Palestinian Authority leadership fail to bring about an independent state while conducting negotiations and ongoing dialogue with Israel, the influence of Hamas and other extremists in the West Bank will only grow. In a process that should only last a few years, Hamas will come to control all territory under the PA's control and will continue its terror and Kassam firing policy from there. The current reality in Sderot will grow to encompass Afula, Kfar Saba and Petah-Tikva. The severe difficulty in dealing with the rockets militarily is already apparent to us today. The "nuisance" from Washington wishes to save us from these two terrible scenarios. At the end of the day, the US can assist, understand but it cannot replace either one of the sides at the negotiating table. Only political will can be the conduit to an agreement. Only political will can strengthen the implementation of an achieved agreement. Both sides lack a "strong leader", but whoever leads the negotiations with decisiveness and a strong will, while ignoring the professional skeptics and the cynical commentators, shall at the end of the process, only stand to benefit politically. The next few weeks will be the actual test.
1 | Martin Leaf, Tuesday Jan 15, 2008
Is it cynical to acknowledge the fact that the Arabs/Muslims do not want peace ? Is it cynical to acknowledge the fact that giving up tangible things like land, for nothing in return, is foolish ?
I think, with all due respect, that you imagine that the other side thinks like you. They don't. They are willing to die, to sacrifice till the end of time, until Israel is eliminated.
The Warsaw Ghetto fighters had two solutions, neither good: Surrender and probably die, or fight and die. Sometimes the choices are that stark.
2 | YM, Tuesday Jan 15, 2008
So, Mr. Sneh, you have listed two reasons why the Palestinians would be crazy to make a peace treaty with Israel. So they won't. Either Israel will have to do its own dirty work with the Palestinians, or cease to exist as a Jewish State, or hopefully Moshiach will come and save us. My recommendation is Teshuva.
3 | YM, Tuesday Jan 15, 2008
Interestingly, Sneh is Hebrew for Bush, and I once knew a guy named George whose Hebrew name was Ephraim.
4 | Velvel USA, Tuesday Jan 15, 2008
"Their lives are not actual lives "
A freudian slip, Mr Sneh? I love how you are trying to feign a rightwing stance now all of a sudden that there is a danger to your buddy Olmert's govt getting broken up.
5 | yehoshua, jerusalem, Tuesday Jan 15, 2008
A third 'grave' scenario:
Zionism has collapsed, beginning Nov. 5th, 1995 and this confimred on Sept. 11th, 2001 and again Jul. 13th, 2006, soory you missed it!
Proven by the collapse of the 'local reality' that in Israel, was its Zionism. The bad news for Zionism'a Princes, is no REVISIONISMS are accepted; absolutely NONE!
Shalom,
Yehoshua
6 | Velvel from Reality, Tuesday Jan 15, 2008
"Their lives are not actual lives "
Is this some kind of disgusting freudian slip? Amazing that you now feign an anti-Olmert stance now that you can see his govt might crumble. Unfortunately it won't crumble because the bribes are to big for the supposed men of principle that can take him down easily.
7 | Jay, Wednesday Jan 16, 2008
my posts never get published on jpost, but here goes anyway... nothing has changed on the PA side since Oslo, so why NOW do some israelis think that peace can be agreed upon? did we not already do these very same things at camp david and after oslo? will these children never learn?
8 | Harry, Plymouth, MA, USA, Wednesday Jan 16, 2008
There is a third way, if only the Hashemites would agree: incorporate the West Bank and Gaza, two autonomous cantons, into an expanded Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan. Today the Hashemite family is fearful such a development would eventually end their rule. However, this is not the case, their fear is groundless. Only a strong central government can maintain stability in a tri-canton expanded Jordan. No entity other than the Hashemite family can provide such stability in the otherwise chaotic mix of interests. This is undisputable. Though not democratic, it is the MidEast reality.
9 | David Mozes, Wednesday Jan 16, 2008
Dear MK Sneh,
Allow me to suggest you consult with MK Elon.
Truly the "Israeli Initiative" is the alternative you fail to see.
No rockets in Afula and no bi-national state.
Think outside the box.
Your friend,
David Mozes
10 | Jeff Jaffee, USA, Wednesday Jan 16, 2008
Palestinian arabs already have de facto state with the government, educational system, police/army, etc.. Therefore, there is no need giving them Israeli citizenship.
Even before they had any autonomy no Israeli government offered West Bank Arabs citizenship. My advice to you Mr. Sneh: If it aint broken, dont fix it.
The Palestinian state your Labor party helped to create is barbaric and bloodthirsty. Giving these Jew-haters complete independence will be suicidal.
11 | ron melbourne, Wednesday Jan 16, 2008
It is not whether the Palestinians despair and give up their quest for a palestinian state. This IS their strategy-go along with "negotiations", hold out , manipulate failure and then embark on the Bi national state initiative, leading to their national state with little or no Jews. Palestinians believe time is on their side and instead of trying to stop this process, Israel needs to adopt strategies and block this semi hidden agenda. The first is NO negotiations until Palestinians publicly acknowledge the JEWISH state of Israel.
12 | David from Jerusalem, Wednesday Jan 16, 2008
I couldn't disagree more strongly. Torah teaches the People of Israel to cherish every inch from the Land of Israel. The People and the Land are one - not two. Torah further teaches we are to treat the "ger" (stranger) among us with respect. Your two-state argument is 100% contrary to Torah. No Torah - no Jews. No Jews - no Zion. Why don't any of you advocates for the two-state solution stay a single night at a hotel in Ramallah? Every with heavy security, Bush was afraid to spend a single night in the care of Palestinian leadership. Why don't you guys lead us by example?
13 | m.ogilvy, Wednesday Jan 16, 2008
No unfolding at all: all that is happening is the result of labor government's policies, as of 1967: you can not hoist the muslim flag on the Temple Mount and then cry out loud that we are loosing it...You can not turn a blind eye on arab infiltration into the west bank and green line, and complain about worsening demographics... Mr Sneh did not have the stomac to support arab emigration to arabia, and the "unfolding" situation should have been visible to him and his party 4 decades ago.
14 | robert, londonistan, Wednesday Jan 16, 2008
if you wiped out the aggressor in gaza, your citizens in siderot would be safer. and remember, you sorry excuse for a defense minister, hamas was democratically elected, and the goal of hamas and fatah is the SAME
15 | sharon, Wednesday Jan 16, 2008
Mr Sneh: you discuss your two scenarios as if they are the only options,while completely ignoring the third possibility. There is a solution, and it is the hardest choice of all-- to fight for the right to live as Jews in our land. You were wrong all along, so admit it; there IS a military solution.
16 | harold london, Wednesday Jan 16, 2008
this is why Ephraim Sneh has no say in government. but the fact that he is in the Knesset is a cause for concern. Israel has had weak, immature and anti-jewish leadership for a long time.
I hope this will change soon!
17 | Arnold-Canada, Thursday Jan 17, 2008
Here is a further possible scenario: Israel agrees to a PA state on the W Bank. This state arms itself with missiles which it fires throughout Israel. It joins with Gaza for a united front to destroy the "Zionist occupation" of Moslem land. Iran, Syria, etc. gleefully support them in this "final solution" to the Mid-East problem. Sneh then writes articles pointing out that he foresaw all of this & sternly warned against the disastrous policy of strengthening Israel's enemies. By then no one cares what he says.
18 | Aharon ben Yitzhak, Thursday Jan 17, 2008
First of all you have the demography all wrong. Jews make up over 67% of the inhabitants between the Med. and the Jordan River. And the demographic momentum is with the Jewish people. www.aidrg.org.
Furthermore Zionism will thrive and increase by fighting our enemies not by giving them our land and our Eretz given to us by Hashem. MK Sneh and the labor party have been absolutely wrong since Oslo. MK Elon has a much more realistic plan.
19 | Ben, Australia, Thursday Jan 17, 2008
"they [Palestinians] will start to ask for equal rights in a shared state. Calls for this solution are multiplying greatly".
Really?? has anyone else ever heard these 'calls'? The Pals acutally want to share 'their' state with us? Another delusional leftist...
20 | Julie - Israel, Thursday Jan 17, 2008
Absurd. As always, teh obvious option is ignored. Those Arabs who are refered to as the "Palestinians" HAVE their own state in Jordan. Just follow Benny's plan and move all Arabs to their own country with lots of money to spend and bingo you have solved the problem. Israel is tJewish country with Jerusalem its capital. Period. Get over this constant nonsense of a Pal state.
Julie
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