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Tuesday Jul 14, 2009
She Said: She Said: A Little Perspective Posted by Channie and Becca Greenberg
Comments: 12
At various times of my life, I have been blameworthy for stereotyping according to material artifacts. Said more plainly, I've been guilty of assuming that folks, who are more stringent about certain things, than me, are necessarily morally superior and that folks who are less careful, than me, are necessarily morally inferior. I've come to discover that such beliefs are based on fluff and nonsense! Simple, whereas there might be a correlation between the length of one's skirt, the nature of one's head covering, and the number of buttons fastened on one's shirt to one's relationship to G-d and to man, there also might not be. Integral goodness is the potential province of all persons. What's more, most of us have lived through experiences in which the behavior of folks, whose lives seem radically different from our own, and whose actions we had assumed we understood, surprised us. I've been treated with unabashed integrity by persons wearing half as much cloth as me and by unabashed disdain by persons wearing equivalent amounts. I've seen individuals who are "tight" with The Boss push their way into line to buy premiere sports tickets, to get "good" parking at cultural events, and to snag the optimal among available vacation rentals. I've also witnessed persons, who have no palpable kesher [connection] with HaKadosh Baruchu, singularly run to hold doors open for the elderly, to rescue stray animals, and to put hands full of coins into beggars' cans. The opposite has been true, too. Folks not yet Shabbat observant have had no problem speeding through neighborhoods, on Saturday mornings, windows down and speakers blaring. Some of those persons don't mind elbowing their way through the shuk or parking in manners that endanger other drivers. In short, I'm fatigued by the constant rant I hear about "those other guys." We are "those other guys, Imagine a community in which the residents treat each other with boundless dignity and in which neighbors fail to take it upon themselves to judge and to punish individuals who acted differently. Imagine peace among our tribes. It behooves us to remember that each of us is valuable and was created because we are needed to heal our Klal, to make us whole. It behooves us to act a lot more kindly as well as a lot more considerate to our fellow Jews. - Hannah
About a year ago I was watching some kids on Shabbat. These kids came from a haredi house in the haredi part of our neighborhood. It was my first time taking them out. My sister, who normally watches them, was sick. I took those kids to the park to play on the slide, encouraging them to climb the ladder and feeding them wafers when they came down. Everything was going well. The kids had warmed up to me, a complete stranger, and the day wasn't too hot. With a smile, I sat down on the side of the park to rest. I overhear a mother talking to her daughter. "You see that girl over there," the lady asked. Her pointing finger and stare made it obvious. "Yes, Ima," the girl answered. "We are not like her. We don't act like her. Don't learn from her." To say that I was shocked would be putting it lightly. At first I had no idea what the mother was talking about. What was wrong with taking children out to the park? Sure, they weren't my kids, and sure, I had never met them before, but they seemed to like me, and I had always believed it was good to be helpful. Confused, I looked back at the mom and followed her glare. The problem was my skirt. In place of the simple a-line skirt and opaque stockings that graced her and her daughter, I was wearing a wrap-around skirt and sandals. As a result, I was considered to be a horrible person. That unfortunate mother presumed to judge my character based on how I dressed. She chose to overlook my actions and to concentrate on my seams and lack of socks. I believe that dress is a reflection on the inner person, but I also believe that we should look past dress. That uncomfortable afternoon, I was dressed in accordance to Halacha, and though I wasn't wearing stockings, I had not suddenly become a bad person. Sadly, not everyone is able to get past appearances. People judge others all the time. People judge level of religiosity, intelligence, integrity and wholesomeness, based on clothing. In my esteem, though, one who wears jean pants and not a jean skirt is no worse a person than one who wears a streimel and a long overcoat. It's not the clothes that make the person; it's the person that makes the person. I left the park sad that day. I wasn't hurt by the comment; I knew that it came out of naivety. I was sad because that lady's daughter, would grow up learning prejudice. - Rivka
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Rachel,
Thursday Jul 16, 2009
...And, today, when I was in Jerusalem I was walking down the street and a small group of people were gathered around as if something was going on. I smiled at the woman closest to me and said "what's going on?" She literally lifted her nose in the air, turned her shoulder away from me and snarled "you're asking me?!! I don't live in this 'm'tumtam' place. This is YOU- uneducated idiots...yada,yada,yada" and she walked away still cursing me as her young daughter walked silently beside her taking it all in.I was wearing sleeves, skirt,hair covering - she wasn't. Works both ways.
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Chaviva,
Thursday Jul 16, 2009
Well said, the entire thing... but especially "We are responsible, to a one, to treat each other with integrity no matter our opinion of what the "proper" lifestyle ought to be." I've been on the receiving end of that same disdain, last Shabbat in Jerusalem, and found it tremendously surprising given that those who were so clearly judging me didn't even know me!
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Moshe, ok with others having higher standards than him.,
Friday Jul 17, 2009
You were dressed according to Halacha, as you (& your knowledge of Torah / Rabbis) understand it, & you were dressed in total breach of Halacha as she (& her knowledge of Torah / Rabbis) understands it.
She understandably told her daughter that this isn't our way, in our eyes this is a big breach of tzniyus, a very important part of Judaism. She didn't "choose to overlook your actions". You were doing nothing different than anyone from her community (kindly looking after someone else's children) so your actions were irrelevant
She wasn't teaching hate or prejudice, just not to copy yr dress.
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Proud Jew (not just "tikkun olam" and hillel bagel brunches),
Saturday Jul 18, 2009
Reform loves to use "Klal" more it seems. They pepper their essays, articles, and opinion pieces with hebrew terms or hebrew sounding terms to sound more authoritative on Torah. It's all a front and while it may sound "pretty" and "inspiring" to the ignorant Jew who went to reform "Sunday School" (and as a result identifies as a universalist/anything goes-except-being-a-proud-Jew-and-Torah-Observant) it fails to hide what they mean when they talk of "Klal" and "accepting all Klal Yisrael". They mean their gentile children and grandchildren from gentile mothers (ref "converts" are not gers).
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Ariel, Boston,
Sunday Jul 19, 2009
Wow, so ugly to see many Jews behaving hatefully to fellow Jews. Makes it that much less surprising that so many Jews really, really hate non-Jews. Explains why such people can believe that real injustice against them is wrong not because ALL injustice is wrong, but because they believe they are special, above others, and uniquely entitled to justice. Just look at Proud Jew's comment, above. You hardly even have to read between the lines. Ugh, I wish I hadn't even read this post. :-(
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Bronagh, Mevasseret,
Sunday Jul 19, 2009
Dear Channie, Becca and Rivka - I still read your blog every week and enjoy it very much. I did think to myself when I saw the topic of this one that you might get some comments which were intended to insult rather than address the issue at hand. Of course you knew this too; if you didn't, you wouldn't have been tolerant enough to know that this piece needed to be written in the first place. I know you won't take the negative to heart - look how many people actually agree with you! Keep it up! P.S. I got a real chuckle out of Proud Jew's wild assumptions :)
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Channie & Becca,
Thursday Jul 23, 2009
Dear Rachel, Chaviva, Moshe, Proud Jew, Ariel, and Bronagh:
Thanks for writing in. The first part of rectifying a falling away from the derech is to have an awareness that a problem exists. Often awareness is experienced as dissonance. A little discomfort can be a big motivator to create change or to hold fast to a virtue with which it is difficult to grapple.
Rachel and Chaviva, were sincerely sorry you experienced the nadir of our tribes. These days, during the Three Weeks, specifically, we are at the point of our greatest adversity. Contd..
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Channie & Becca,
Thursday Jul 23, 2009
May we be Blessed to make restorations that please Hashem, including and especially embracing each other. Maybe you could write in with experiences about how each of you built bridges to Jews you initially considered unlikely to be your friends. We need to encourage each other, that is, to build up the spiritual strength in each other, to get beyond smallness and find common love for Hashem, for Eretz Yisrael, and for other Jews.
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Channie & Becca,
Thursday Jul 23, 2009
Moshe, your remarks bring to mind the story of a Jews settling a dispute between two other Jews. The arbiter says, youre right, and hes right, and Im right, too. Theres a lot of latitude about certain things. About other matters, not everything goes.
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Channie & Becca,
Thursday Jul 23, 2009
Proud Jew, do you have a name or a place? If you want to email our editor with your name, location, and contact information, maybe you could be our guest for Shabbot. nuf said.
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Channie & Becca,
Thursday Jul 23, 2009
Ariel, the yetzer hara wants us to give up. Lack of achdut is a favorite device of that obedient angle. Lets not feed him any of our energy. After Moda Ani, in the morning, take a minute to inventory your personal blessings. Your loved ones, the parts of your body that function, the miracles of nature, and more, are easily appreciated when you open our eyes. Girded with those blessings, its possible to rise beyond the pettiness of some not-yet-enlightened folk and to embrace the Klal.
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Channie & Becca,
Thursday Jul 23, 2009
Bronagh, what a pleasure to hear from you! Please email us offline and catch us on your life! Were glad youre a fan. Were even more grateful youre a friend.
The topic of divisions among our people is painful and even, at times, political. It doesnt have to be. We can make choices (who well marry, where well send our kids to school, etc.), but we ought not to make judgments. If we cant help but yield to our imperfections and make judgments, then we are beholden to judge favorably.
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