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Wednesday Nov 25, 2009
Rosner's Domain: The Obama-like-Carter talk is backPosted by SHMUEL ROSNER
Comments: 77      Follow Rosner's Domain on Twitter! / Join me on Facebook! The Carter talk is back - or maybe it never really disappeared. And I don't mean the Carter vs. Israel talk, I mean the Obama is like Carter talk. Take a look at these two: Every day I sit with friends here in Washington or in New York, many highly successful, many with years of U.S. government experience, who say to me they are no longer investing in the United States or they feel that we are entering a period of irreversible decline -- persistent high unemployment, a chronically weakened dollar, limited resources forcing us to be much less active internationally. There is a sense that no matter what Obama does, he will not be able to reverse these trends. In this respect we see his greatest similarity to Carter: both have demonstrated really bad timing, both seem to be victims of circumstance. An idealistic president takes office promising an era of American moral renewal at home and abroad. The effort includes a focus on diplomacy and peace-making, an aversion to the use of force, the selling out of old allies. The result is that within a couple of years the U.S. is more suspected, detested and enfeebled than ever. No, we're not talking about Barack Obama. But since the current administration took office offering roughly the same prescriptions as Jimmy Carter did, it's worth recalling how that worked out. And the prediction coming from Germany is this: There are many indications that the man in charge at the White House will take a tougher stance in the future. Obama's advisors fear a comparison with former Democratic President Jimmy Carter, even more than with Bush. Prominent Republicans have already tried to liken Obama to the humanitarian from Georgia, who lost in his bid to win a second term, because voters felt that he was too soft. "Carter tried weakness and the world got tougher and tougher because the predators, the aggressors, the anti-Americans, the dictators, when they sense weakness, they all start pushing ahead," Newt Gingrich, the former Republican speaker in the House of Representatives, recently said. And then he added: "This does look a lot like Jimmy Carter". Carter or no Carter, it is worth noting that whatever people might think about Obama's plummeting poll numbers, he isn't losing support among Independents: A quick look at Obama trends with independents. There have been several articles in the last week about independents deserting the Dems. A good bit of that was spurred by the huge Rep margins among independents in VA (66-33) and NJ (60-30-9) governors races. There are also some indications on policy issues that independents are not supporting Democratic positions. But support for Obama has not plummeted among independents, and that needs to be clarified before it becomes erroneous conventional wisdom. It especially makes no sense to compare independent support in January with independent support now, and conclude there has been a collapse of support. The pattern this fall, since Sept 1, has been quite stable among independents. Depending on which polls you use, a shade up or a shade down, but overall, not a huge trend either way over the past 3 months. Find it hard to believe? take a look at this new analysis: On our national survey in June Obama had an 82% approval rating with Democrats. Now it's 83%. He had a 46% approval rating with independents. Now it's 47%. No real change on either of those fronts. But with Republicans he's dropped from an 18% mark to just 10%. That shift is what put his approval rating below 50%- he's gone from a small amount of crossover support to a very small amount of crossover supports. Can't be a Carter with such numbers, can you?
1 | Ron M / TA Zion, Wednesday Nov 25, 2009
Shmuel, I don't know why you went to all these weird places for polling data.
Gallup yesterday:
"Given the 17-point drop in his approval rating among all U.S. adults, it follows that Obama's support has declined among all major demographic and attitudinal subgroups, with one notable exception -- blacks." http://www.gallup.com/poll/124484/Obama-Approval-Slide-Finds-Whites-Down-39.aspx?CSTS=alert
Shmuel, that's a 17 point drop. Gallup on Independents: "Independents' approval of Obama has declined nearly as much (down 18 points), whereas support among Democrats is down only 6 points"
2 | Dennis, NYC, Wednesday Nov 25, 2009
Mr. Rosner,
Every other poll I have seen (Rasmussen, NBC/WSJ, CNN) have all said that President Obama has lost many of the Independents. For example see WSJ article here: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704402404574525543109875438.html
Also see CBS News poll here http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/11/17/opinion/polls/main5680779.shtml where it says
"The president's approval rating has dropped seven points among independents. Forty-five percent of independents now approve of how the president is handling his job. Last month, a majority of 52 percent approved."
3 | andy-london, Wednesday Nov 25, 2009
I dont think hussein obama cares what the U.S thinks, as his agenda is to dismantle the constitution and bring in his ultra left wing and aclu socialist policies as fast as he can.Carter hates Israel simply because of the entebbe victory and his BOTCHED FAILURE in iran.Lets say it as it is.Why is it that obama wants a show trial with the terrorists from gitmo?Why didn't he call the slaughter at fort hood a terrorist attack?Because of his muslim background that's why.
4 | Mike Feldman, Canada, Wednesday Nov 25, 2009
Obama is tone deaf to the American people. By far, the number one issue to Americans is the economy. So what do Obama, Pelosi and Reed do? They spend the whole year talking about health care reform which is well down the list of priorities. And what has it got them? No bill and a re-energized Republican Party. When Americans who are between 18 and 35 who may have the bleakest employment chances see that their participation in Health Care Reform helps to average down the premiums of older, less healthy individuals, his support will further erode with an important part of his base.
5 | Sally - U.S.A., Wednesday Nov 25, 2009
Michael Rubin said Obama is like Carter on steroids. I disagree with Rothkopf in that Obama's downfall is due to circumstances. Obama is taking a recession & making it worse. Of his "great" stimulas plan which he "claimed" that if it was not passed, the world would basically come to an end, only 15% of this approx. 1 trillion dollars, was for jobs. (5% was for summer jobs which was not released until June). The rest is just pork - the Obama' s hope & change toys which is not scheduled to be released until 2011 (& will substantially increase the deficit). Obama "claimed" (con't)
6 | Sally - U.S.A., Wednesday Nov 25, 2009
(con't) that the stimulas would keep unemployee at 8% - it is now at approx. 10.2%. Obama was specifically told in the debates that increasing taxes during a recession decreases the GDP. Nevertheless, he is letting Bush's tax cuts lapse & the health insurance bill will have a 5.4% tax increase. Therefore, for example, capital gains tax will be over 25% & overall taxes will increase 69% (See WSJ) All this is Obama's great Keynesian economics. The last time someone was dumb enough to use Keynesian economics was Morganthal during FDR. It drew out the depression because they had a (con't)
7 | Sally - U.S.A., Wednesday Nov 25, 2009
(con't) with a great big debt. (see The Lost Man.) Obama has Volker & he has yet to have met with Volker or take Volker's advice. Everyone, China, Germany, etc... has been telling Obama to stop spending so much & don't increase taxes, but he will not listen - so the economy is squarely on Obama & not "just circumstances." Also, Obama's record on human rights is abysmal - he won't meet with the Dalai Lama, he picks on Israel, he hasn't done anything about Darfur, as Marty Peretz said, he gave his behind to Iranian protestors, etc... Obama is worse than Carter.
8 | Mike Feldman, Canada, Wednesday Nov 25, 2009
Sally. I'm posting this before your (cont'd) appears. I don't know if its in your continuation, but the Obama administration has lost a great deal of credibilty just by having to revise the numbers of jobs "created" and mixing up such things as part-time hours worked and full time jobs. i.e. 300 hours worked = 300 jobs. The other day Joe Biden announced 3.5% growth in the economy in the last quarter, turns out its 2.8%. Now Obama's talking about a double dip recession and will soon gear up for another stimulus package. Yesterday he's talkinig up climate change. To me, and I think you agree, he just can't adjust to current realities, and he is touting programs which will further damage the fragile recovery.
9 | Sally - U.S.A., Wednesday Nov 25, 2009
Yes Mike I agree with you. I have to say this about Obama, at least he is not anti-semitic like Carter (at least so far - I hope that I am not proven wrong.) So as much as I disagree with the way that Obama is running the US, he at least has one saving grace.
10 | Mike Feldman, Canada, Wednesday Nov 25, 2009
#9. Sally, You're more tuned into the Carter history than I am, so I ask you the following. In your view was Carter always anti-semitic, or is it a sour grapes reaction to not achieving what he wanted at Camp David? Let's not forget he was able to get Hamas to agree to a cessation of violence if Israel withdrew to its pre-1967 borders, if Israel agreed to the Palestinian refugees right of return, if Jerusallem became the united capital of the new Palestinian state and if Hamas continued to not recognize Israel in 2008. This allowed the Arab websites to portray the Israelis as "unwilling" peace partners thanks to dhimmi's ex-officio meetings.
11 | Jewish Talent, Los Angeles,USA, Thursday Nov 26, 2009
Relax Everybody, sooner or later it's the Jewish Wisdom & Expertise that will save America. What we need is to replace the Muslim Obama with a Jewish President. There's no shortage of Jewish talent for
the job.
12 | Jewish Talent, Los Angeles,USA, Thursday Nov 26, 2009
Relax Everybody, sooner or later it's the Jewish Wisdom & Expertise that will save America. What we need is to replace the Muslim Obama with a Jewish President. There's no shortage of Jewish talent for
the job.
13 | Terry - Eilat, Israel, Thursday Nov 26, 2009
Sally & Mike. I thought Obama would be another Jimmy Carter BEFORE the election, now I see he is much much worse. But a more accurate comparison is not to Carter but to a company like Enron or a dot.com company during the '90's, a speculative bubble. Eventually, reality wins. There will be a tipping point, an event, something (like a major drop in the dollar), or perhaps a terrorist attack in NY because of the KSM trial - and public confidence will drop as fast as in every other kind of bubble. His current decline in the polls is only a hint of what is to come.
14 | Rick Hertzlya ,Israel, Thursday Nov 26, 2009
There are lies, damn lies and Rossner faking statistics.
15 | Johnny Weintraub, Thursday Nov 26, 2009
Terry in Eilat. I am one of the twenty percent of American Jews who did not vote for Barak H. Obama this past November. I looked at that picture of Obama at the Kotel (Western Wall) with the kippa (Yarmulke) on his head, sticking a note into a crack in the Wall. Now that the election is over, I seriously doubt if Obama is going to return to the Kotel with another note. If he does, I would be very suspicious as to the contents of that note.
16 | Alan, Thursday Nov 26, 2009
What do you expect? Same "philosophy" of WEAKNESS and APPEASEMENT. Same "party" democrat. Same results "FAILURE." But remember, after four DREADFUL years of Carter, we got Eight of REAGAN. After four dreadful years of The Pretender-in-Chief Obama, we will see REAL HOPE and CHANGE. Thank GOD! The ways of man, things ALWAYS get WORSE, before they get BETTER. Anyone see a pattern here?
17 | DavidM, Thursday Nov 26, 2009
The most troubling aspect of this is that Jimmy Carter still gives advice as if he had been a successful president. Carter was a weakling who dismantled the US military in hopes that it would appease the Soviets. They laughed at Carter and scooped up Afghanistan. The American embassy was seized in Tehran and Carter was helpless to do anything about it. The military did not even have six working helicopters to rescue the hostages. Carter and his cohorts have rewritten history to pretend he was a success. He was a failure.
18 | Mark Jeffery Koch Cherry Hill, NJ USA, Thursday Nov 26, 2009
There is so much unwarrranted criticism of Obama and the false accusation that he is a Moslem who hates Israel. Here are the facts: Aid to Israel continues untouched, the U.S. military recently held unprecedented exercises with Israel, the U.S. is giving Israel the worlds most advanced war plane, the F35, that NO ONE ELSE in the world will receive.The racists and bigots on this site and others who call Obama a Moslem show their ignorance and stupidity. He is a Christian, married a Christian in church, & his kids were baptized and he still attends church. He has done nothing to harm Israel.
19 | Mark Jeffery Koch, Thursday Nov 26, 2009
Obama's position on Israel is no different than that of members of Labor & Kadima, and even some in the Likud, & apparently the current Prime Minister also supports a two State solution, as by the way do former heads of the Shin Bet & Mossad, and many former generals. There are those who care about Israel that realize the demographics are not in Israel's favor and that a two State solution must happen. Even Ariel Sharon came to this conclusion. What Bill Clinton tried to do ten years ago is far beyond what Obama asked Israel to do but no bigots & racists called Clinton a Moslem, did they?
20 | Mike Feldman, Canada, Thursday Nov 26, 2009
#13. Terry. Very true. However, I think Obama is capable of creating his own tipping point, by creating voter alienation and losing all credibility. What might be an interesting comparison and failure for Obama a la Carter is Iran.
21 | Bones, Miami, Thursday Nov 26, 2009
See Rasmussenreports.com. 46% of voters say they at least somewhat approve of the President's performance. Fifty-four percent (54%) disapprove. 31% say US headed in the right direction. 26% strongly approve of Obama. 41% strongly disapprove of Obama. That is a -15 rating & is Obama's lowest opinion numbers from likely US voters. Only 19% of white voters strongly approve of Obama. Overall, 34% of voters give Obama good marks on his handling of the economy. 47% give him poor marks on the same. Looks like 2010 will bring a major shift to the right. Give thanks, American voters are waking up.
22 | bert Resnick, Thursday Nov 26, 2009
What pains me is the seemingly blind support he receives from our black citizens He is a hollow projection driven by Democratic operatives.and would not have won without the screw ups of the Republican idealogues. a perfect storm of two simplisticly driven groups of true believers. The more I listen to his ego driven blabs , the more I am reminded of roman senators, and you know whar happened to the Mighty Roman Empire!
23 | Sally - U.S.A., Thursday Nov 26, 2009
Mike, I was under the impression that when Carter touted his successful "agreement" with Hamas, Hamas immediately came out & repudiated what Carter had said. (The event that I think you are referring occured around the 2008 presidential election - is that right?) Mike, read Carter's books - The Blood of Abraham & Palestine - Peace not Apartheid. All the Jewish people resigned from the Carter Center. He also had the US abstain in 1979 in Jordan's comdemnation of Israel in the UNSC. He said things like F(blank) the Jews when he was running for re-election. So you can form your own opinion.
24 | Hofikoman, Thursday Nov 26, 2009
The more you are, the less you are. Too much ad hominem, not enough issues, in the justifiable concern with the President's performance.The paradox is, of course, that it is this very excess in what comes across too much as demonization of the person, which keeps some independents polling positive for the President. The real question in American Politics is whither the so-called "Independents?" Who is really giving insightful analysis about those who take on this label? Are there prospective candidates for a 3rd party presidential bid who could in terms of numbers actually succeed? I hope so
25 | Sally - U.S.A., Thursday Nov 26, 2009
Mike, (con't) I can tell you something "funny" about both Carter & Obama. When Carter was inauguarated as president, he had a holocaust survivor sing the national anthem. Then Obama after his Cairo Speech had Elie Wiesel go to a camp with him. It reminds me of the midrashim in which the pig (who doesn't chew his cud) stretches out his cloven hoofs as if to say "see how kosher I am." He represents the hypocrite who parades his virtues & conceals his faults.
26 | Sonny, Thursday Nov 26, 2009
I dont know where you measure this steadfast independent support from? But independents elected Obama, the Rep. didnt. As for the Obama-Carter comparison, Obama is worse and is leading the country to revolt. Most voters are tired of both parties; they have corrupted themselves. With the exception of the Northeast and left coast, the rest of the country is pretty tired of the nonsense coming out of Washington D.C. (That stands for dont care). But its the caliber of the politicians we elect. They are so far removed from the norm. Theyre the American Aristocracy and that is the problem.
27 | Larry Cohen, Thursday Nov 26, 2009
#21 A total fantasy. America is NOT moving to the right and remains a centrist nation. Obama's poll numbers are no different than any of the last ten Presidents during their first year in office. Obama did not start two wars or cause the country to enter a deep recession, and unless he is an idiot he will not go to war with Iran when Iran is no threat to America and cause oil prices to quintuple, terrorism worldwide to escalate to unprecedendated numbers, and Iraq and Afghanistan to be lost. If you want to see anti semitism in America dangerously rise I guess you want Obama to bomb Iran.
28 | Shel Zahav in Jerusalem, Thursday Nov 26, 2009
Intelligent people wrote about the Carter-Obama do-nothing-but-screw-up connection before Obama was elected. Stupid people didn't listen and voted for Mr. Dithers. The connection was and is obvious. The only real difference is that Obama is a marxist. Unfortunately, we don't have a Ronald Reagan waiting in the wings to trounce this incompetent, humiliation of a president.
29 | Shel Zahav in Jerusalem, Thursday Nov 26, 2009
Today, there was an article about Obama's use of the term "unprecedented". He has already used the term 3 times more than all other presidents combined. Everything with him is "unprecedented". That is the way to trick people into letting him turn America into a socialist state. No time to read bills, no time to debate, no time to think. Now, now, now! This and that situation are always "unprecedented". The Americans should kick his unprecedented butt out of the White House at the earliest opportunity. But that has a precedent: that's what they did to Carter!
30 | Terry - Eilat, Israel, Thursday Nov 26, 2009
#20 Mike. Read the numbers given by Bones #21. It's my understanding that future trends are reflected in the strongly approve/stongly disapprove, I saw these same statistics in an article on American Thinker blogspot. Obama is an edifice built on sand, the sands are now shifting. Doubt is coming to many Obama supporters but human nature being what it is, they're still not willing to express disapproval. But, something will push them over the edge. Another indication, even SNL is taking a few jabs at Obama, some in the media at now offering muted criticism. The end approches, wait until 2010.
31 | Mike Feldman, Canada, Thursday Nov 26, 2009
27 Larry Cohen. Talk about total fantasy. After one year Eisenhower was at 65%, and he never fell below 53%. Kennedy started his Presidency in the low 70's and his lowest rating was in the mid-60's during the Cubam Missile Crisis. LBJ was over 70% after one year. Nixon started at 69%. He went to 61% and stayed there through 1971. He went to just about 50% after the release of the Pentagon Papers. Carter started at 68% and was over 50% after his first year. George HW Bush started at 56% and rose to 70% after his first year. Clinton started in the low 50's and stayed there. CONT
32 | Mike Feldman, Canada, Thursday Nov 26, 2009
#27 Larry Cohen - CONT- Ironically, Clinton's approvals went up after the sexual misconduct allegations. (those crazy Dems). George W Bush was at 70% after his first year, was at 62% at the beginning of the Iraq war, and never fell below 50% in his first term. He was over 50% when he beat John Kerry. Your assumptions about Iran and America are as fallacious as your assumption that Obama's numbers are typical. Given the blame game stuff in your blog, you could be a speech writer for Obama. If you want to look for a comparable, look up the results of the 1994 mid-term elections.
33 | Daran, UK, Thursday Nov 26, 2009
Mike, which failier has Obama on his watch regarding Iran? to date his admin has shown effective leadership in the Iran nuke issue. Jpost reports China and Russia on board for lastest resolution. He strenghtens an allied approach to issue. The use of French intel on Qom enrichment facility has caught Iran with its pants down in front of the IAEA, while US holds open the chance to "come clean". This way of doing something, which might actually work, without resorting to lots of death and destruction. Is required to build broadest possible concensus on military option having given peace a chance
34 | raffy1956, Thursday Nov 26, 2009
just watching obama spare the thanksgiving turkey and his comments about eating another show the insincerity of the poseur he is! if any US president could be as anti semitic and anti ISRAEL as carter obama is the leading candidate
35 | Rozz - travelling Europe, Thursday Nov 26, 2009
Right on #12. Let the USA have a Jewish President and watch America reach for the Stars without any effort. And p.s.- I am not a Jew, but wish I was!
36 | Lev Barsky San Jose, California, Thursday Nov 26, 2009
What would make you happy Terry? Do you want Obama to bomb Iran, a country that is not a threat to America? Do you want him to pretend there are no Palestinians living in the West Bank & Gaza and allow Israel to continue to expropriate more and more land? What exactly do you expect another President to do? Did the great friend of Israel, George Bush, do anything to make Israel more secure by allowing Israel to do whatever it wanted? Why is it that so many former generals, and thousands of Israelis want a two State solution? Are they ALL misguided leftists or perhaps maybe they are realists?
37 | Ronald USA, Thursday Nov 26, 2009
Carter lost the support of the American people because he put in place the wrong policies, both foreign and domestic, that ultimately failed. The comparison of Obama to Carter comes to mind, readily, because many Americans believe Obama is making bad policy decisions. Americans understand that these are tough times and want Obama to succeed. However, Obama has already made many choices and Americans increasingly fear that the outcomes will be painful for the country.
38 | Bones, Miami, Thursday Nov 26, 2009
Larry, #27, You Have Drunk Too Deeply at the Well of the Obama-Kool-Aid Factory. EVERY NUMBER in my post comes from Rasmussenreports.com. If you don't like the numbers, don't worry, stay home in November 2010, everything will be just fine. Here, have a medical marijuana cigarette and take a chill pill.
39 | Marc, Virginia USA, Friday Nov 27, 2009
The data on independents is provided by a Democratic polling organization, PPP. If you look at the most recent Fox News poll, the results tell a much different story: Democrats Approve 85-9; Republicans Disapprove 15-80; Independents DISAPPROVE 34-51. By contrast, Independents approved of Obama 51-42 as recently as mid-September. Mr. Rosner's Domain only cites facts that support its preconceived conclusion. Obama has to be losing support of independents if his overall approval is below 50 percent. (See Gallup, Rasmussen, Fox)
40 | Amnon, the Great AMERICAN Southwest, Friday Nov 27, 2009
Rosner is sounding more like an apologist for Obama and a DNC operative. Obama is a coward, a liar, an anti-Semite. Bibi, unfortunately is NO Begin. If he were, he would openly defy this son-of-a-bitch. Remember December 1981? Begin turned on a REAL friend of Israel, Ronald Reagan because Reagan and his self-hating puppy Cap Weinberger took umbrage over Israel's annexation of the Golan. But Begin stood firm, and Reagan muted his comments. Contrast this with Bibi's caving in over BonZo's demands. He should have demanded an immediate US strike on Iran as quid pro quo for any settlement freeze.
41 | Amnon, the Great AMERICAN Southwest, Friday Nov 27, 2009
Yes, Barsky, the BonZo needs to bomb Iran, and bomb it now before the nuke sites become operational. He has proven he's nothing but an anti-semitic Israel-hater and Islamoterrorist stooge, and it is damn time you opened your pathetic eyes to this. My God, why do we bring such lemmings, such Chelmists into the world? Bush, you ignoramus, was a true friend. He did not demand Jews leave their lands, their homes that are much more ours than Obama's home in Chicago (taken years ago from the Fox and Saux) is his. The Barskys and Mark J. Koch's of the world are such deluded, dhimmin idiots.
42 | Ethan, TA, Friday Nov 27, 2009
"Carter or no Carter, it is worth noting that whatever people might think about Obama's plummeting poll numbers, he isn't losing support among Independents"
Then who is he losing numbers with - republicans?
43 | Sajid Syed, Cambridge, Canada, Friday Nov 27, 2009
Sometimes, one has to stop worrying about public opinion and do what one believes is right. Why worry about opinion polls?
44 | Ann,Oregon, USA, Friday Nov 27, 2009
There is nothing American/patriotic about Obama. He speaks of Israel as though Israel were a colony of the USA. He tells Israel's enemies that Jerusalem will be theirs. He tells the citizens of the USA he will give priority to job creation. He barely makes that speech when some of the very companies our tax dollars bailed out made billion-dollar deals with India. AND then Obama has a mega-size state dinner for an India leader. I've nothing against India, but OUR people need jobs. Please do not be deceived by the current occupant of our White House. "Behold, HE (our God) keeps Israel." PS.121
45 | Randi, Jerusalem, Friday Nov 27, 2009
Shmuel - Usually I love your blog, but this entry contains erroneous info. See the Gallup polls and you will find an 18-point drop among independents since obama took office. His approval rating was 62% among independents upon taking office, and today stands at 44%.
46 | Mark - USA, Friday Nov 27, 2009
One of the quotes - "his greatest similarity to Carter: both have demonstrated really bad timing, both seem to be victims of circumstance" - uh, no...the greatest similiarity is their reliance on anti-Semitic advisers to shape policy...
47 | Chaim - Israel, Friday Nov 27, 2009
Obama and Carter were not victims of circumstances. They were (are) disastrous presidents because of their incompetence and ideological blindness. The hostage drama is a perfect illustration of Carter's incompetence versus the competence of Ronald Reagan. For well over a year, during Carter's ineffectual presidency, Iran's militants taunted America with the hostages. When Reagan was elected, the hostages were immediately released. Obama's disastrous economic policies are main contributors to massive U.S. unemployment, syrocketing taxes and the real risk of U.S. national bankrupcy.
48 | Steven in NY, Friday Nov 27, 2009
And aside from Obama's generic, overall job approival, look at polls on specific issues: the economy/unemployment, health care, foreign policy, and others. On most issues a majority or a plurality disapprove of Obama's positions - both generally and among indepedents.
49 | CARES1996, Friday Nov 27, 2009
WELL SOME VOTED FOR A CENTRIST AND GOT FARTHEST LEFT OF SOCIALIST -PROGRESSIVE (HILLARY)MOVEMENT CUPLE THAT WITH THOSE WHO FEEL IF IT WEREN`T FOR AMERICA,AND WE`VE GOT A TROUBLING SCENARIO,IT APPEARS THERE`S WIDESPREAD MEDDLING AND VOTERS REMORSE,OF COURSE THEY GAVE ZERO THOUGHT TO POTENTIAL OUTCOME,IT WAS ALL (ANTI-AMERICAN,BUSH)BITTERNESS.NOW THEY`VE GOTTA PROBLEM,U.S. BUDGET DOWN 56% FOR FISCAL10.NOBODY GETS THE PAY-OFF EARMARK.THEY`LL BE PAYING FOR THEIR OWN SECURITY OR SOON SPEAK RUSSIAN OR CHINESE.THERE`S A REALITY CHECK FOR YA....
50 | Ich cock offen Jimmy C, Friday Nov 27, 2009
Jimmy carter...phooey! He shoudl be called "no balls Jimmy"! Obama's problem is that he dont understand the Fundamental mind of the Jihadis! Just like Jimmy C did nothing to help our hostages. These pieces of Crap in Iran (Khomeni) shoudl have been put in their place! But Jimmy was a " lets talk to them" nice kind of Guy.. If Obama is the same ...we are in big trouble. Jimmy C must get a check $$$$ from the Saudi Oil Guys!
51 | cares1996, Friday Nov 27, 2009
THE CONCERN HERE IS THE CURRENT U.S. ADMIN. DOESN`T HAVE ONE GIANT FOE THAT DIDN`T REALLY WANT TO KILL EVERYONE,SUCH AS CARTER DID.WE NOW HAVE MANY IDEOLOGY DRIVEN AND RESOURCE DRIVEN FOES THAT SEEK TO DESTROY BOTH WHO WE ARE AND WHAT WE STAND FOR....(PROGRESSIVES TO ANARCHISTS INCLUDED)
52 | Sarah, Israel, Saturday Nov 28, 2009
All you Obama haters and people who claim he is a Muslim, need to get a damn life. Well I guess that already shows considering you were wasting away your Thanksgiving on an online message board.
53 | CARES1996, Saturday Nov 28, 2009
WO # 19 THATS QUITE AN INDICTMENT ON THOSE WHOM YOU MENTIONED,TAKE HEED ISRAEL IF THAT HAS ANY CREDIBILITY THAN SWIFT ACTION IS NECESSITATED,ITS MORE LIKELY THAT SOME IN THEM PARTIES ARE LOOKING OUT FOR THERESELVES,THE POINT OF ANARCHY CAN BE PREVENTED.IF THEY`RE COMPROMISED EXPOSE AND PUT THEM IN PRISON,THE BEHAVIOR WILL GO VIRAL IF NOT PREVENTED,DON`T BE COY THESE TIMES DEMAND SWIFT ACTION,I APOLOGIZE TO YOUR CURRENT F.M. I POSTED PRIOR BUT WAS REFERING TO THE FORMER F.M. NOT CURRENT,
54 | Tom, US, Saturday Nov 28, 2009
I wouldn't be overly concerned about these opinion polls because you all are interpreting them ass backwards. To begin with Baby Bush had the lowest approval rating in the entire time that approval ratings have been monitored. If anything, the drop in Obama's approval rating is because he hasn't gone far enough in living up to his campaign promises. In other words, altering America's foreign policy away from basing it all around Israel and the wars America was lied in to by Bush and the neocons. So run a loonie toon like Palin against him in 2012 and Obama will have a landslide victory.
55 | Not Jewish, Saturday Nov 28, 2009
Ros, get yourself some reading glasses and look at the polls again because they don't sync up to your flawed quotes. It is common knowledge that Obama's popularity is in free fall among all Americans except black Americans. I look forward to watching you clean the egg off your face after the 2010 mid term elections when the independents help take out Obama's power base. BTW, I am an independent.
56 | Amnon, the Great AMERICAN Southwest, Saturday Nov 28, 2009
For Mark at 47, uh, you're actually missing the mark (pardon the pun), Mark. They (Carter and BonZo Obama) are themselves anti-semites. But it will take a miracle (thanks Terry, for your incisive note) for Jews - the lox and bagel sort who couldn't even get 9/11 - to figure out that kind of reality.
Shame Bibi chose to capitulate to the demands of Bonzo who himself grovels before the Saudi King and Ahmedinejedad.
57 | Mark U.S.A, Saturday Nov 28, 2009
You take numbers from Public Policy Polling and an article from National Journal two Liberal at best but closer to leftist organization and publication.Check one of the most accurate polls like RASMUSSEN or Gallup he's plunged amongst Ind. Look at a summation at Real Clear Politics he's also plunged there
58 | Jonah in Jamaica, Saturday Nov 28, 2009
Comparing Carter with Obama seems like a waste of energy. Its like arguing which is worse: to die from ebola or smallpox. Just give me anesthesia.
59 | Ben, Saturday Nov 28, 2009
36 Lev Barsky-lucky soviet Jew is a clever fellow,not like rightists from Russia,he spits on useless Israel and is a happy Obama voter.Future will teach the idiot
60 | Colin Beck, Surrey, B.C., Canada, Saturday Nov 28, 2009
If the way to Hell is paved with good intentions and poor decision making is the surest way to skid road; then the proper care and feeding of pidgeons will ultimately lead to a seat on a park bench. Shofar the School of Hard Knocks has few graduates even though there's nothing more transparent than hot air. [ P.T. Barum ]
61 | Mike Feldman, Canada, Saturday Nov 28, 2009
#55 Tom. May I suggest that you read #'s 31 qnd 32. "Baby" Bush was at 70% approval after one year and remained over 50% throughout his first term. He was in the mid-fifties when he defeated John Kerry in 2004. Palin as the nominess in 2012 is highly doubtful, but Obama is far from unbeatable. Right now the Dems are looking over their shoulders at the 1994 mid-terms as the closet historical comparison.
62 | Bill Collins, Spokane, Saturday Nov 28, 2009
The worst is yet to come from Obama. Unfortunately he has help--Livni!!! Her beliefs will come to fruition and with that Israel will silently be led to her own destruction. Peace with enemies that have hated you since the time of Abraham is well--not a reality. You may achieve it for a short while, but in the meantime, while you're celebrating they'll be preparing an all out assault. Wake up! You are on your own unless Iran threatens Europe!!! But even so the EU will one day come after you! First Iran and then you! May my Lord and Savior save Israel in the time of your greatest need!!!
63 | David J Feiger Oakland Park, Fl USA, Sunday Nov 29, 2009
Carter vs Obama. According to Gallop Pres. ( I love you Mr. Brezhnev ) Carter's approval rating his first Nov. in office was 56%. Pres. ( I love you Mr. Chavez ) Obama's is 48%. He ties Bill Clinton's 49% in Nov. '93. His Rasmussen Approval Index is as of 11/25, -15%. This is determined by adding strongly approve ( + )26% to strongly disapprove ( - ) 41% = -15%. Total approve 46% to total disapprove 54%. Of those that approve 56% strongly approve while 76% who disapprove, strongly disapprove. The most disgusting statistic is that 64% of Jews approve of this Pres.
64 | fred usa, Sunday Nov 29, 2009
Carter has been bought out by arabs, of course,from begining to end..Note Alan Dershowitz's comments.
It was especially anti semitic groups and individuals who saved him from business debt,before elections, with his peanut company and later with post presidency donations.His brother as well reccieved arab money.
The arabs spend fortunes to gain support in the u.n.and by supporting financially poloticians such as bill clinton ,as well.
I wonder if Obama is or has reccieved arab money???anyone???
65 | gideon levy, Sunday Nov 29, 2009
I am sick and tired of u israelis and ur opinions with regards to MY president .all this obama hating and bashing with ur lind white hot hatred that brings our ur inner rascist and vile language is disgusting. The mere fact that obama is willing to sort out the iranian nuclear mess is PROOF that he is willing to consider israels security.in case u israelis have forgotten ,a nuclear iran is not a threat to the united states militarily.no country in the world is except russia.we americans can sleep easily even if the iranians had a hundred bombs.we have only been brainwashed into fearing an iran
66 | gideon levy, Sunday Nov 29, 2009
cont) so all this hatred of obama needs to stop.obama is right in his demand that the setllements must stop.they belong to THE PALESTINIANS .stop building on their territory.it is a fair and reasonable demand.and i hope obama stays firm on this .in fact i believe he should make it a condition of stopping iranian nuclear weaponization.if u israelis are so hungry for war with iran why dont u do it urselves?the answer=bcos u cant .the iranians are too powerfukll for u and so u want america to fight another war for u.israel=the greatest threat to the usa.
67 | gideon levy, Sunday Nov 29, 2009
sorry israelis .you no longer have a us president who will allow you to behave wantonly around the middle east as you like without being held to account.we had spineless presidents who let you get awa with the slaghter at sabra and shatila.spinless bush let u get away with ur murderous ways in lebanon in 2006n while reagan let u get away with it in lebanon in the eighties .under this president u can no longer do what u want .ur nation is a spoilt child and we the world are sick of u .
68 | gideon levy, Sunday Nov 29, 2009
u israelis hate on carter every day but yet forget that it was carter who took away the biggest military threat to israel.Egypt.it was the absense of egypt that allowed u to wantonly invade lebanon Twice and stage ur wars on gaza.yet u clown him every day.Obama is going to be the greatest american president if he is the first to stand up to u israelis and ur money.u blame him for the economy but forget that itb was ur boy bush who spent all our money fighting ur wars .it took 8 yrs to ruin america.obama cant be expected to fix it in 9 months.thankfully u israelis dont get to vote
69 | gideon levy, Sunday Nov 29, 2009
obama has gone out of his way to be supportive of israel.he let u have the f-35 jet even though u dont deserve it and have treid to steal the technology.have spies operating within aipac on our country.has engaged iran on ur behalf and got the chinese the russiand and even the french on the same page .more than bush could ever do.given military aid to u and continued the us policy of feeding ur whole economy.things i personally hope he will stop doing .yet here u clown are talking recklessly. incase u havent noticed african americans are used to tricky jews and will not be intimidated
70 | John West Virginia, USA, Sunday Nov 29, 2009
Do you not know, you can talk a nation to death? And that is what is going on in the Middle East. All these years of TALK, AND DEATH, HOW MANY PEOPLES HAVE DIED?
71 | Al Sharpton, NYC, Monday Nov 30, 2009
gideon levy. U is an illiterate asshole pretending to be a jew. Who does you think you is fooling ? I axe dis çause I knows a phoney when I sees one. If you gotta pretend you is a hymie you''s gotta talk mo' like a hebe. Is you slow?
72 | Not Jewish USA, Monday Nov 30, 2009
Mr. Levy, I am not an Israeli or even a Jew but I despise your Muslim US prez Obama. You must be a sucker for lost causes because your hero Obama's popularity is in the toilet. We Americans both Gentiles and Jews are fed up with your piece of crap Obama. I personally intend to instigate with all my power to have Obama prosecuted for fraud once he is out of power because he is a Kenyan and not a legal American.. You sir are an absolute idiot! Nothing personal but you really are an absolute idiot.
73 | andy-london, Monday Nov 30, 2009
#70 Your muslim president is on the way out.As for african americans WELL lets hope you lot dont go around burning cars and buildings when HE IS put out.We europeans have more brains than to act like your african crowd that you SO take after.Your obama has to have a tele prompter every time he makes a speech on your national television.Maybe george bush could give him a few pointers on how to keep america safe for a few years or would he be seen as RACIST with you lot.Your president had his tutoring from aclu and acorn after all.
74 | SOL, NEW YORK CITY, Monday Nov 30, 2009
Excuse me Gideon Levy, on what basis does the land belong to the Palestinians? When Israel captured the West Bank and Gaza Strip, they belonged, repsectively, to Jordan and Egypt. When those two Arab countries controlled those areas, nobody said it was Palestinian territory. It was only when Israel, in response to Arab aggression, captured those terrirories that they suddenly became Palestinian territory. There is no historical or legal basis for a claim that the West Bank and Gaza are Palestinian territory. This is a myth created by the Arabs after Israel's victory in the six-day war.
75 | Israeli Veteran, Monday Nov 30, 2009
gideon levy, Egypt a military threat?? thats a fool talking. Egypt never was, is not and never will be a threat to Israel. Egypt's lamebrain dismal military can be summed up by just one example: During the 6
day war when the Egyptian army fled the battlefield with its tail between it's legs abandoning it's arms, armour, equiptment and vehicles some of the captured trucks were setup like bedrooms complete with cosy beds. That's how therse "brave muslim warriors" fight their wars,with their commanders in bed,leading
from the rear. Obama is a DUD and Americans are waking up to this phoney DUD.
76 | Benjamin Blake, Monday Nov 30, 2009
gideon levy. so you boast our closet muslim POTUS has "engaged" Iran Well well, well, so he has, and got a kick up his butt for his limp wristed grovelling. Must say it couldn't happen to a nicer lameduck. Obama is the butt of jokes in the coffee houses of the Muslim world, percieved as ripe picking for Islamic Jihad. Don't worry about Jews intimidating him, "Tricky" Islam" led by Iran is doing a damn good job. In case YOU haven't noticed white Americans are used to those tricky (gimmee,gimmee,gimmee) african americans you refer to ,the trickiest one being our POTUS.
77 | coinman san francisco, Tuesday Dec 01, 2009
This is ridiculous. Obama "ultra left wing?" The right |
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