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Wednesday Sep 23, 2009
Rosner's Domain: Should Israelis be declaring victory After the summit?Posted by SHMUEL ROSNER
Comments: 68      Follow Rosner's Domain on Twitter! / Join me on Facebook! From my article in The New Republic (read it in full here): Israel should restrain itself from declaring victory just yet. True, Obama had to draw down his overeager demands from Israel. But it is also true that Netanyahu, not long ago, had to reverse his opposition to a two-state-solution and publicly declare that his goal is similar to the one espoused today by Obama. True, Abbas was dragged to the summit only days after insisting that he will not come to any meeting unless settlement construction is frozen first. But it is also true that Netanyahu, the head of the right-wing Likud Party, is one of the first Israeli prime ministers to agree to some form of settlement freeze.
1 | bannister, USA, Wednesday Sep 23, 2009
Iran will settle this affair.
no negotiations , a couple nukes by suicide bomber and the Israelis who survive will run like refugees with their hair on fire.
2 | here, Wednesday Sep 23, 2009
It is not about wnning or losing. I object to this phrasing.
Israelis are used as the garbage pit for all the hatred and satanism in the world, countries do this and then blame us. They need us to blame us. If Israel (God Forbid) did not exist, entire continents would be fighting each other to the death.
3 | Terry - Eilat, Israel, Wednesday Sep 23, 2009
Israel's entire approach is totally wrong-headed. We need to reject everything associated with Oslo, to purge the defeatist attitude that has dominated Israeli policy. We are bleeding to death, slowly, drop by drop. Netanyahu only seeks to make us bleed slower. There are two very well written articles I read this morning. One is by Daniel Pipes title, ''Peace Process or War Process'' the other is at the Sultan Knish blog, ''Why Israel is Losing the Military & Media Wars''. It is sheer foolishness to talk about ''victory'' re: a minor tactical success when our entire strategy is wrong.
4 | GOLDEN NUGGET Australia, Wednesday Sep 23, 2009
..it's a continuing soap opera...its NOT about Israel negotating with the PA..it IS about Israel negotiating
with ISLAM.. which in turn is SWORN to the destruction of Judaism Jews and Israel.."PEACE" with Islam????..FAT CHANCE...Conclusion:..why waste time and energy even responding to these Jew
haters who will come out of the woodwork to post their drivel response to this article...
5 | ina-scotland, Wednesday Sep 23, 2009
Israel is being asked to withdraw back to the 67 borders.Abbas knows already that that'll never be.Israel {INCLUDING JERUSALEM} is a sovereign state and abbas AND obama have NO chance of Israel ever giving any more land to terrorists .Netanyahu should ASK obama would he be willing to give up ANY part of the U.S to accomodate the MILLIONS of mexicans flooding THEIR country,so Israel should celebrate EVERY day that Israel is their's FOREVER.
6 | Hofikoman, Wednesday Sep 23, 2009
Of Obama, Abbas and Bibi which leader has most improved his position within his own political locale? Why Bibi, of course. This does not mean that Abu Mazen and Obama have lost their leading roles, but they are being more distracted by their internal oppositions than Bibi, who incidentally handled his grilling by CNN's Wolf Blitzer (former Al Hamishmar) with considerable skill. The Iranian implosion has significantly strengthened Bibi's position. Because the Iranian threat has also diminished for the Sunni, the meaning of the Mitchell mediation can be a real probing of what peace is possible
7 | Chris USA, Wednesday Sep 23, 2009
no
8 | Mike Israel, Wednesday Sep 23, 2009
Netanyahu doesn't want a settlement freeze or negotiations. Abbas has said he won't negotiate until there is a settlement freeze.
Tell me: is there is a worse example in history than of how Abbas is conducting negotiations?
9 | Moshe, Kfar Sava, Wednesday Sep 23, 2009
Terry from Eilat #3 -- once again, he's spot on. And I might add that we really ought to investigate why otherwise intelligent people (the Jews) run our one and only country with such abysmal stupidity. We win Nobel Prizes up and down, but we haven't a clue about administering a sovereign nation. If abusing national interests, deprecating one's own country, and suppressing patriotism were Olympic events, the Jews would win the gold medal -- and the silver and the bronze. It's so pathetic, it's an embarrassment.
10 | tally, Wednesday Sep 23, 2009
Two-state solution concept dead. Now Israelis and Palestinians will share all of Palestine. One state for all, Zionism will have to disappear. Everyone will be able to live wherever he or she wants.
The IDF will have to be dissolved and Arabs would have to form 50% of it. One day Israel's PM will be a Palestinian from al-Khalil.
Don't blame the world. Blame yourselves. You killed the two state solution by building so many settlements in W.Bank.
11 | historian, London, Wednesday Sep 23, 2009
The Old Testament, The New Testament, and the Quran all predict the distruction and dismantlement of Israel. History books will teach future generations that the main factor contributing to the destruction of Israel is the settlement enterprise.
12 | Sally - U.S.A., Wednesday Sep 23, 2009
If Netanyahu succeeded in reversing a US policy toward Israel in which "a nation can make few mistakes worse than this: to be harmless as an enemy, & treacherous as a friend (Bernard Lewis)."
13 | martin tel aviv, Wednesday Sep 23, 2009
The day of reckoning is coming. The Americans will, eventually, walk away from us as has just about everyone else. Soon we may find that we no longer can count on American diplomatic, military or financial assistance. Perhaps the Marshall Islands will still stand by us. The Americans have lots of problems and don't need the headaches we and the Palestinians impose on them. They may well decide that a one-state solution is okay by them. But, will it be okay by us???
14 | Afro- American, Wednesday Sep 23, 2009
Indeed, we are fed up with Israel. There is a prevailing mood in the US that Israel is trying to control our country, control our government, our congress, our media. They want us to attack Iran and get thousands of of our finest sons and daughters get killed for the sake of Jewish settlements.
This is why Obama must stand firm in the face of this Evil schme.
America is the United States of America, not the United States of Talmudistan.
15 | Shel Zahav, Wednesday Sep 23, 2009
What is incumbent upon Israel now is to build up the Land of Israel. Arabs who wish to live among us in peace continue to be welcome. Others should join their brethren in Arab Palestine, aka Jordan. Tally's silly racist statements notwithstanding, of course.
16 | Ram Venisa Kfar Sava, Wednesday Sep 23, 2009
Sorry, all you left-wingers. All this silly talk about two-state and one-state and other solutions is against international law. Israel is a recognized state by the UN. Iran is in defiance of international law. So is Hamas and any other jihad-supporting organization. When are you leftists going to get on the side of the law? Your anti-Semitism is showing again.
17 | Terry - Eilat, Israel, Wednesday Sep 23, 2009
Just as a point of interest, DebkaFile is reporting that Iran's one & only AWACS crashed into an escort plane & both planes were destroyed. This essentially means that Iran is blind & cannot detect incoming planes. Let's hope this was deliberate sabotage on our part & not the incompetence of the Iranians. In any case, this may be the right time to strike before they can replace it with another Russian AWACS. Netanyahu should not be wasting time with Obama & Abbas just so Obama can have a photo-op & pretend he accomplished something.
18 | Alan-USA, Wednesday Sep 23, 2009
You don't declare "VICTORY" until your ENEMY is DEFEATED! Syria, Iran, Russia, Lebanon, Egypt, Libya, Saudi Arabia, etc. are ALL still Standing.
19 | Mike Feldman, Canada, Wednesday Sep 23, 2009
Interesting how the same old or worse than the same old can be called a "victory". There were no pre-conditions on Israel imposed for Rabin to meet with Arafat. There were no pre-coditions imposed on Israel for Barak to meet with Arafat. Olmert did not have to deal with pre-conditions to speak with Abbas. But now because Obama stuck him foot in his mouth in Cairo, allowing the Palestnians to jump on the opportunity to do nothing, we speak of a "victory" for Netanyahu. More properly its another defeat for Obama. Someday he'll understand its no about his will be done. Hopefully he'll be a private citizen.
20 | Mike Feldman, Canada, Wednesday Sep 23, 2009
Terry. I saw an interview with Dan Gillerman on Monday. As much as he was able, he indicated that an Israeli attack on Iran is not only tied to Iran's progress in creating a nuclear bomb. It is more important to attack while the opportunity for success is at its maximum. This would preclude waiting for Iran to have effective AWACS. Netayahu, on the diplimatic side, is hinting that he is not counting on the Security Council, but rather waiting to see if countries other than Russia and China will cut off Iran's gas supply to de-stabilize the regime. I think anyone who thinks we'll be having this conversation in a year is naive.
21 | Tom, US, Wednesday Sep 23, 2009
Declare victory over what ? That another opportunity presented itself and once again Israel walked away ? If you believe that is a victory then by all means knock yourselves out with celebration and declarations. Number 18, Alan, you may as well add the US to that list of countries that Israel wishes to defeat because they haven't completely destroyed our country, YET. Very close but not quite yet.
22 | Terry - Eilat, Israel, Wednesday Sep 23, 2009
#20 Mike Feldman. I don't know, it's impossible to predict. Sanctions will not work - not just because of Russia & China. Even France has come out against sanctions on gasoline saying, predictably, it will ''hurt the poor'' - but, of course, an atomic war won't hurt the poor, lefty morons. So, saying that we are waiting to see about sanctions is just BS. No, we won't be having this discussion in a year - because either we attacked Iran or we didn't & they obtain nuclear weapons. If you're interested, there's a good post at Yid With A Lid on Ahmadinejad's religious beliefs, very scary.
23 | Terry - Eilat, Israel, Wednesday Sep 23, 2009
#20 Mike Feldman. By the way, it was nice to hear that the Canadian delegation will walk out when Ahmadinejad comes to the podium. People with principles. I wonder if any of the spineless Eurotrash walks out, Germany said they would (it's free, it won't cost them one Euro of what they make trading with Iran). But, will Obama just sit there smiling? If Obama doesn't walk out, he is a lower piece of scum than I already think. What a shame for America.
24 | Julie, Wednesday Sep 23, 2009
The least productive members of Israel society are the ones that will force a binational state in the future or a decision to drop democracy. I wouldn't be calling this a victory.
25 | Daran, Wednesday Sep 23, 2009
I have noted Terry of Eilat belligerent post's regarding Iran, and he appears to keep him/her self informed, so I ask about what he considers will be the immediate result of the Iranians becoming aware of a strike. Does Terry contend Israel could take out, nuke complex, missiles and command and control network alone? Is it not true to say that even a strike to damage Iranian facilities would require every tanker and long range strike aircraft of the IAF. Hez and Iranian missiles barrage before the remaining aircraft have returned is more than likely. route of return? without allies doomed!
26 | WHATEVER, Wednesday Sep 23, 2009
WHAT could Abbas KNOW NOW what he didn't KNOW THEN? WHAT CHANGED his position between that last summit with Bush and this first summit with Obama?! Abbas obvioulsy CHANGED his position from a true believer in peace with Israel to a true unbeliever in peace with Israel! But that didn't occur just like that! So, indeed we now have Abbas on our side - INSTEAD of he having us on his - but that didn't happen overnight!!
27 | Dan USA, Wednesday Sep 23, 2009
Victory over what? The American press headlines say "Obama uses speech at UN to fire broadside at Israel". It's clear that Obama represents the changing attitude within the US towards Israel. You Zionists can spin this as a victory all you want, but you're grossly miscalculating the situation.
If the Zionist state is to continue, then a 2nd State is required. If Israel is marching to a "greater Israel" tune, then the Zionist state must cease and become a true democracy for all. The current situation, is not sustainable, unless Israel is planning it's own "final solution".
28 | Mladen Andrijasevic, Be'er Sheva, Israel, Wednesday Sep 23, 2009
What a waste of time! The point has been reached when all these empty Israeli-Palestinian-US meetings are not only ridiculous, they show how ignorant and incompetent the organizers are. To expect anything reasonable from the Palestinians a month after the Fatah conference in Bethlehem where the Palestinians came up with a platform which labeled ALL Israelis the illegitimate inhabitants of Jerusalem is an exercise in futility. To spend time on this summit nonsense at this critical juncture in IsraelÂ’s history vis-Ã -vis the Iranian nuclear threat is truly absurd.
29 | B.A., The Netherlands, to #Terry, Wednesday Sep 23, 2009
Terry, you are not very smart, are you? Once again you are ranting, protesting and rejecting everything without suggesting any reasonable alternatives. Your line of thought can only lead to one of the following: 1. Deport all Pals from Isreal (incl. Judea/Sameria); 2. No deportation, but the Pals will become Israeli citizenship (one man one vote). Can you live with any of the above? If you were the Israeli PM, what will you do differently and what will that mean for your contry? It seem old age have not brought you any closer to wisdom. You just rant like a chauvinistic teen. Think Terry think
30 | Frank Molnar, USA, Wednesday Sep 23, 2009
The short answer is NO. Come to think of it the long answer is also NO. If, as during the Second Lebanes War, you subscribe to the notion that if you don't lose you automatically win, well then go ahead and assume you WON. In my humble opinion nobody won except, perhaps, the news media which could talk about the tripartite meeting ad infinitum. Shame on me for joining in.
31 | Tom, US, Wednesday Sep 23, 2009
Interesting CIA report regarding Israel not existing 20 years from now. The really smart money is riding that Israel will dissolve much sooner than 20 years from now. Since you obviously don't want a 2 state solution then that means a 1 state solution. As the Palestinians pop out babies left and right while the sterile Israeli's have at the most one or two children, in a democracy, that means that the Palestinians will out vote the Israeli's sooner than later. Just one thing, we don't want you in the US either so please emigrate somewhere else.
32 | Terry - Eilat, Israel, Wednesday Sep 23, 2009
#25 Daran. Suggest you read some of the studies by Anthony Cordesman on Israeli military capabilities. While I am not a military expert, I have read a bit on the subject, enough to convince me that a military strike on Iran is quite feasible & has a reasonable expectation of success. Such a strike would at the least, delay considerably Iran's nuclear program, such strike using only conventional weapons. A limited use of nuclear weapons would increase chances of success. Your use of the word belligerent is misplaced, it being more accurate to call Iran belligerent, not me.
33 | Mike Feldman, Canada, Wednesday Sep 23, 2009
#23 Terry. Thanks for kudos for Canadian delegation. Thankfully we have a conservative government directing the delegation. Germany will only walk out if Ahmedinjad denies the Holocaust. After all, its illegal for Germans to listen to holocaust denials. Listened to the esteemed Colonel Gaddafi at the UN earlier. Curiously, he wants to open investigations of Jack Ruby ,called and Israeli by Gaddafi, but actually born in Chicago in 1922. He wants to open an investgation to the assassination of MLK by James Earl Ray, an American gentile of Irish descent. However, no investigation of Sirhan Sirhan a Palestiian Christian born in Jerusalem No investigaion of Abbas and the massacre of Israeli athletes. An objective spokesman if ever there was one.
34 | Chaim - Israel, Wednesday Sep 23, 2009
A truly great victory for Israel will occur the day the Israeli Prime Minister tells the world the obvious truth. "We aren't going to talk to the P.A. any more because we have nothing to talk about. The tiny land of Israel, including Judea, Samaria and Gaza has belonged to the Jewish people for more than 3,500 years and we aren't going to give away a single grain of our sand. Our Arabs neighbours have more than 600 times our land mass and they can very easily resettle a relatively small Arab population now living on our land".
35 | Joe, Phoenix AZ, USA, Wednesday Sep 23, 2009
NO. Israel should be very wary of Obama. His actions and speeches have shown no enhusiastic support for you. Not ony is he causing chaos here in the USA, but also on the world scene. When Khadafy and Castro are praising him, there is trouble in the making....
36 | Mike Feldman, Canada, Wednesday Sep 23, 2009
Daran. I think "the immediate result of the Iranians becoming aware of a strike", will be Ahmadenejad bending over to kill his balls good-bye. Fortunately, he doesn't have to bend over too far. I don't know what happens next: I'm not a military expert.
37 | Simon, Wednesday Sep 23, 2009
Yes we all know about "afro americans" LOL.
38 | Teresa, USA, Thursday Sep 24, 2009
no. 14 speak for yourself, you are spewing the black liberation theology. If we don't stand with Israel we will fall. Oh, wait a minute, Obama is already tearing us down and remaking us into a communist country. Obam threw Israel under the bus today and all freedom loving Americans know it.
39 | not your homey, home, Thursday Sep 24, 2009
@16 nice try but the occupied west is also recognized by the UN. Please show us more of your all-embracing visions as a Racist-Jew.
40 | Mike Feldman, Canada, Thursday Sep 24, 2009
Teresa. Don't know if you've read Afro-Americans blogs before, but he is a member of the Nation of Islam, led by the esteemed Jew hater, Louis Farakhan, Funny thing with these guys. One of their main stated goals was to get reparations from the U.S. government and succede and form their own state. Now that Obama's in the White House they can put that aside and just concentrate on anti-semitism. Suddenly the white America Farakhan has been villifying for years has become "our finest sons and daughters" Guess the true believers only constant is their constant hatred of the Jews.
41 | uri levin, Thursday Sep 24, 2009
the views of afroamerican
i have no doubt the views he expressed are representative of the opinions of many afroafricans.
i am sorry that is the case but that is the truth of the matter.
42 | David, Thursday Sep 24, 2009
Israel is guilty of DUI.
Israel has forgotten the ideals of its founders and early Zionists.
Those people believed in secular Israel that is a democracy, enjoys freedom of religion living peacefully with its neighbors.
The religious Zionist who is controlling Israel today has complete different vision and mission. It is based on Messianic and biblical entitlements to the entire land of Israel as described in the bible without taking reality and pragmatism into consideration.
The chosen people, the people of the book, have turned into the people of the nukes and the sword, neither is serving IsraelÂ’s original visions and heading it toward the edge of the cliff.
43 | Michael Lame, Washington DC, Thursday Sep 24, 2009
The Obama team’s initial misstep – insistence on a settlement freeze – has now been compounded by the denial that the freeze was ever insisted upon at all. Obama got into this fight with Israel when he didn’t need to, and once the confrontation began, he didn’t fight to win. The mistake is not a fatal error for the new administration. Rather, it is a setback for Obama’s peace-making efforts – months lost, trust with Israel diminished, an all-too-public false start made in an area of the world that is used to false starts but is tired of them. One hopes that Obama will learn from his mistake.
44 | Jonah in Jamaica, Thursday Sep 24, 2009
Sanctions will not work. First, it is unlikely that there will be unanimity to enact sanctions or on the nature of the sanctions; secondly, even if enacted they will not be forceful enough; third they will be violated; fourth, even if not violated the present regime will survive and will be even harsher to protesters; lastly,even a new Iranian government will not dismantle what has already cost billions to develop. Waiting for sanctions is merely a fig leaf to cover up, a diplomatic pause, what must ultimately occur. Hopefully Israel can pull it off with minimal losses.
45 | Giora Me'ir, Thursday Sep 24, 2009
Yes, it should. It's clear that Obama doesn' t have the . . . spine to follow through on his warning regarding the settlements.
46 | Chris Scott USA, Thursday Sep 24, 2009
Until we give Texas and California back to Mexico and the rest of the U.S. back to the "Native Americans" you should ignore our grandstanding.
The World hates Israel because you are the Almighty's. You should defend yourself to the best of your ability but know that when the Nations come against Israel. It is the Most High who will be your sword and shield.
As a Christian I support Israel because I love what the Almighty loves. Notice almost everyone who hates Israel and her people also are unbelievers in Holy Scripture.
Is there a way for Christians to settle in Israel? I want to help!
47 | Curtis Nashville, TN, Thursday Sep 24, 2009
Obama's speech places Israel in a "catch 22". Dammed if you do, and dammed if you don't. After Obama placed blame on Israel, the world, if at all possible, will hate Israel even more if they strike Iran.
Israel, you must stand and not be afraid. America is afraid to rebuild the Twin Towers. Why? Now Obama is trying to teach Israel how to be afraid!!!
48 | Dan, Thursday Sep 24, 2009
To # 46 Chris Scott 1
Strange bedfellows , you see Chris, under the religious Zionist regime, you are most welcome to Israel. They can put you on a kibbutz to milk the cows, or in the kitchen to wash dishes. TheyÂ’ll pay you with room and board.
Or, they can put you as a volunteer in an army base cleaning the toilets and the grounds.
If you want to live in the city and make some money, your chances are higher winning the lottery in the US.
You see, you canÂ’t speak the language, and even if you could you couldnÂ’t get any job involves security clearance since you are not a Jew.
49 | Dan, Thursday Sep 24, 2009
To # 46 Chris Scott 2
If you happened to fall in love with one of the beautiful Israeli girls, you have to get married in Cyprus, because you are not a Jew.
Your kids will be bastards cause they came out of wedlock.
Basically what they are trying to tell you, thanks but no thanks, it is much better you stay where you are and send us your $ and vote republican, this is how you help Israel.
You see, you looking at them as the people who will bring your Messiah back, they are looking at you as an idiot because their Messiah hasnÂ’t come yet.
I could go on but I think you are catching my drift, maybe you would like to reconsider.
50 | Daran, Thursday Sep 24, 2009
To Terry, thank you for your reply and will see what I find of Cordesman. Unfortunately you have not responded to the main to questions I posed. What route and return, and what likely response would be from the Iranians and proxies. The answer to both those questions need allies to this strike. I fear the consequences of an Iranian nuke on peace in the region, which right thinking person would not. As a supporter of Israel I fear that an attack alone would gravely risk hundreds of thousands of lives in Israel, but not just Israel, I'm concerned that people in Iran would suffer too.
51 | Chris Scott USA, Thursday Sep 24, 2009
To Dan
Language barriers imposed at the Tower of Babel
Divisions between Jew and Gentile will be resolved by coming of Messiah
Yes, 2nd coming for me- but for Jews first coming
What do you propose Israel does to preserve itself
It is not promoting forced conversions like the Muslims
or even willing conversions like Christianity
I have more in common with Hebrews waiting for Messiah
than I do with Gentiles waiting for nothing but certain judgment
I have no problem with living by the Torah
but my righteousness comes from CHRIST
Israel awaits her King, What awaits Dan?
52 | Sally - U.S.A., Thursday Sep 24, 2009
Apparently, Netanyahu did not succeed in reversing Obama's policy of being "harmless as an enemy & treacherous as a friend." According to JTA & Commentary Contentions (Jennifer Rubin), the whitehouse is claiming that it "misspoke" about the Goldstone Report being buried. Given Obama's General Assembly speech (in which he threw Israel under the bus again), the "mistake" they made about the Goldstone report, & Obama's about face from Tuesday at the summit, it looks to me like Obama is playing a kind of blackmail game.
53 | Loreen, USA, Friday Sep 25, 2009
54 | Loreen USA, Friday Sep 25, 2009
This is one Christian that is sadly watching Obama throw Israel under the bus. #35 and #38 are correct in their assessments.
55 | Emanuel Seller, Friday Sep 25, 2009
Swedes and Aussies are very simmilar we are in general a very tolerant and helpful society but, one day we say to the offender: Enough is Enough.
56 | molly-glasgow, Friday Sep 25, 2009
Israel will be still Israel when we're all gone. God made an everlasting covenant with abraham.Isaac,and Jacob that Israel would belong to them forever,and disagree all you want HIS decree will stand..
57 | Dave, Sunday Sep 27, 2009
molly - take your pills asap and go to sleep.
don't forgt to call God in the morning for refill.
58 | GOLDEN NUGGET, Sunday Sep 27, 2009
#56 molly...Amen...Judaism Jews and Israel will prevail to ETERNITY...the arch enemy Islam is already self destructing from within all over the world by their own Islamic bloodlust of muslims killing each other...Isam will be "Gone with the Wind"...the desert wind...to the desert sands where it came from and where it BELONGS...
59 | lydia, Sunday Sep 27, 2009
58 The Arab have ruled the land for over 2000years. There never was a jewish king or jewish kingdom. The jews who lived in the Holy land bears no relations to your lot of mongrels.The Israelite did not come from Egypt. It's all one big con, no covenant with God, no Burning Bush, no Moses. Abraham was 176, and Noah was 950. If It wasn't all mythical, est. European pagan converts have no relation to the early Palestinians, Egyptians. or Canaanites. Your squat amongst 2bil Muslims is as a direct result of the sympathy generated from the Holocaust. and your unilaterally declared jewish state.
60 | GOLDEN NUGGET, Sunday Sep 27, 2009
59 The poster referred to as Lydiot knows all about the arab/muslim slum dwelling "mongrels" who she services for a few measley pennies..yep..she must be pretty hard up to hawk herself to such
low "mongrel" customers...but then again given that these mongrels are her beloved idols it mus be
"a labour of love"...yep..a mongrel servicing mongrels and "keeping it in the family"..producing inbred
retards like herself...
61 | Mathematician, Sunday Sep 27, 2009
#59. Among other things, math is not your strong suit. Aside from your delirious ramblings about linear lines, you don't even know about your muslims. Your statement that ""You(r) squat amongst 2bil Muslims" is, like you, ridiculous. 15% of the world's muslims are Arabs. At best there are 300,000 arab muslims. The inacuracies of your posts make science- fiction seem like the ultimate reality.
62 | Mathematician, Sunday Sep 27, 2009
lydia. Before you soil your shorts. Typo. 15% of the world's Muslims are Arabs. That's 300 million. 15% of the world's Muslims cause 100%f the world's wars. Name a 50 year period in the history of Islam when Muslims were not at war.
63 | lydia, Monday Sep 28, 2009
60. Nugget, They pulled you chain again, did they Mate? Spading you, seems to have had but minimal effect, you are still rabid and out of control as ever. What about one of those electronic spray collars Mate, they are quite reasonably priced and could do heaps for your profile. I know it's a bit unfair though, since you really only 'show off', when your chain is rattled. Hard life Mate, between a rock and a hard place, as the tissue of lies holding together your 'jewish state' claim, starts unraveling. Woof! Woof!
64 | lydia, Tuesday Sep 29, 2009
61.62 Not 'my Muslims' more likely 'your Muslim' as you try to convince the World that est. European pagan converts and more recent ones are desert people, related to Biblical jews. You want to play semantics with Arab Muslims,Iranian Muslims, Indonesian Muslims, Malaysian Muslims, African Muslims et al, go for it ; one would expect nothing less than craft and duplicity in your 'jewish' maths. It is not the 'hostile' Muslim nor the 'warlike' Muslim in blatant contravention of UN laws but your illegal jewish squat outside of your unilaterally declared 'jewish state' that's their cause celebre.
65 | GOLDEN NUGGET, Tuesday Sep 29, 2009
#63..the Chinese sage Confucious has got your number when he says:- "This woman Lydiot because
she flies upside down has big "CRACK UP"...but he does not know your "big" "crack up" is a great "position" asset to you as you offer yourself to your fellow "mongrels" who service you in the slums and casbahs...psst...the Woof Woof coming from you is a GENUINE Lydiot "mongrel" sound of contentment and appreciation for fellow "mongrel" customers...yep...theres lots more to rub your Jew hating ugly kisser in...just "Ask..and ye shall Recieve..Amen"...yep..Mate..delivery guaranteed...
66 | GOLDEN NUGGET, Tuesday Sep 29, 2009
#63..the Chinese sage Confucious has got your number when he says:- "This woman Lydiot because
she flies upside down has big "CRACK UP"...but he does not know your "big" "crack up" is a great "position" asset to you as you offer yourself to your fellow "mongrels" who service you in the slums and casbahs...psst...the Woof Woof coming from you is a GENUINE Lydiot "mongrel" sound of contentment and appreciation for fellow "mongrel" customers...yep...theres lots more to rub your Jew hating ugly kisser in...just "Ask..and ye shall Recieve..Amen"...yep..Mate..delivery guaranteed...
67 | lydia, Thursday Oct 01, 2009
65.66. I think I got it!! English is not you 1st, 2nd or 3rd lingua franca. So it's not that you are stir crazy that you rant all this gibberish. Now I understand where you are coming from perhaps Tom could be persuaded to communicate with you in one of his many tongues even if it is just to give you a dressing down. Alas I fear Tom in all probability has already given up on trying to decipher your nonsense. To me its still funny rattling you cage.
68 | GOLDEN NUGGET, Friday Oct 02, 2009
#67..Lydiot..yep..when you say you "got it" you must mean you got that incurable "BIG S" the same
incurable "blessing" that you professional street walking mongrels contact from your mongrel slum dwelling idols..THAT sure explains YOUR state of deseased mind...bad luck Mate..there is NO CURE
for the "BIG S" desease...as for your Pimp's "many tongues"..he's flat out using his "many tongues" practising HIS profession servicing his fellow homos. Like I said ..keep asking..and I shall keep rubbing
your Jew hating ugly mongrel face in it...
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