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Rosner's Domain: Rabbi Joanna Samuels on the stagnation of the Jewish Conservative movement

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Rabbi Joanna Samuels is a teacher, writer, and mother of two small children.  A graduate of Barnard College, she was ordained at the Jewish Theological Seminary where she was a Wexner Graduate Fellow.  Until 2008 she served as the spiritual leader of Congregation Habonim on the Upper West Side of Manhattan. I asked her questions regarding the things she's said at the Jewish Theological Seminary, in an evening dedicated to "Conservative Judaism: The Next Generation."

1. In the "Conservative Judaism" event, you've said (or quoted as saying) this: "We need to do something bigger than ourselves," she told the audience. "My goal is for us to get people out in the world to help heal the world. That's the best kind of Conservative practice." Can you please explain what you mean? What is it that you suggested?

This quote is taken from a larger discussion of ways that we might engage our constituents.  Clearly, synagogues, schools, camps, adult learning programs like the Melton mini-schools are some of the avenues that have been offered to Jewish adults and children who affiliate with the Conservative movement.  In some cases, these institutions have worked very well. There are individual synagogues that have been transformative in the lives of their constituents, for instance, and certainly Camp Ramah and the Solomon Schechter schools are strong models in educating and acculturating Jewish children.  

I think, though, that we are reaching people in a limited way. 

We in the observant world are at risk of modeling a fragmented and actually un-Jewish ideology which says that our communities are places where certain Jewish activity happens -- tefillah and talmud torah, for instance -- but not whole swaths of other Jewish obligations. It was very clear to me in rabbinical school that I was expected to observe and to help others observe certain mitzvot -- Shabbat, tefillah, kashrut, limmud. Rarely if at all did we talk about our obligations to help the poor, to advocate for the defenseless, to give tzedakah in a consistent and conscious way.    

In our world, there are two narratives. One is how broken everything is, how much suffering there is, how much violence and poverty and despair.  This is a desecration of God and the world that God created. The other narrative is about the people who are actually trying to solve some of these problems in a systemic way -- people like Jeffrey Sachs, Victoria Hale, Paul Farmer, Ruth Messinger, and Wendy Kopp (and if you do not know who these people are, google them, they are heroes). The Jewish people should be actors in the narrative of repair, instead of anguished and passive participants in the narrative of destruction.  

The fact is that in every study of civic engagement and concern for the other, Jews rate the highest of any religious group.  We should be so proud of this! And we should see the desire to engage in the repair of the world as something authentically Jewish, without any apology.  Do we have to explain why the study of Torah is an obligation? So why do we participate in the marginalization of the work of bringing justice to the world?  Why do we have to explain why Jews are obligated to this?  Why not just go and do it, and bring with us our kosher food, our siddurim, our tefillot -- and see how our Judaism is renewed when, after a long day in service to the other, we daven and say "l'taken olam b'malchut Shaddai"? 

2. Is this not an agenda that is already "taken" by the competition. - Reform Judaism's extensive work on Tikkun Olam?

The Jewish community as a whole has a lot to learn from the Reform movement's commitment to social action and social justice. In many Jewish circles, it is fashionable and even a mark of honor to disparage this work, and to say that it is not sufficiently "Jewish." I would refer those who hold this opinion to such marginal Jewish texts as the Chumash and the Nevi'im. So if what I am suggesting for the Conservative movement sounds like an imitation, I would say: if only.

So why is social action important for the Conservative movement?  First of all, it is an obligation. Secondly, I think the intersection of social action and traditional practice will teach us deep lessons about both.  

3. Do you want to "get people out" because you believe this will be a way to get them in the conservative tent - or because you think it is a mission inherent to Conservative Judaism? In other words: is this a mean to an end, or your real goal?

I think that working towards a more just world is a value inherent to Judaism, period. If this action can take place within the context of traditional egalitarian Jewish living, it would be grant us the opportunity to live fully as Jews. A Judaism that asks us to daven but to ignore the front page of the newspaper, or to study Torah but not live out the values of Torah, is not enabling us to bring our full selves to the table. Why should it be ok to ignore what is happening in Darfur, but still get points for davening? The better question is what could our davening feel like if we were really working for justice in the world?   

4. Can you give me your (short) analysis of the much-talked-about crisis in Conservative Judaism: where does it come from, why is it not solved in the many-years passed since all realized that it is, indeed, a crisis?

Living in the world and living as a traditionally minded Jew is a great blessing and is also a challenge. Extremism is on the rise throughout the world, and simultaneously there is a consumerist mentality that rejects anything that does not serve immediate and individual desires and needs. Asking people to find meaning in group identity and group behavior, but, at the same time, to live in a diverse and dynamic world, is difficult. So this is the back drop against which traditional modern Judaism is trying to find its voice. 

At the same time, the institutions of the conservative movement have failed in their role to shape that voice in a compelling way. They are trying to fix very broken institutions and I think there was in the past a tendency to make little tiny fixes that would not rock the boat too much.  

In my opinion, we can not ignore the poor handling of the 1983 decision to ordain women as rabbis. For the movement's leaders, this was apparently such a shocking event that for 25 years afterwards, the job of leadership was to quell dissent, to be ambivalent and pained about this innovation, and to assure everyone that they were not, God forbid, Reform Jews. What seems to have been lost on those leaders is that their constituents had moved on from this change and even from their one-time strong identity as Conservative Jews. Instead of obsessing about the "slippery slope" of halachic innovation, they should have been facilitating a large-scale public conversation about what halacha and tradition even mean to us as modern people -- meeting people where they are and moving the conversation forward. I commend JTS's Chancellor Arnie Eisen for spearheading such a campaign for the movement now, and at the same time, I wish the conversation had taken place two decades ago.

Conservative Judaism was founded by innovators who believed that traditional Judaism and modern life needed to speak to each other. What was "modern" to those founders is now history for us. The challenge and the promise of this Judaism is to keep placing what is contemporary next to what is traditional, and to believe that our tradition can handle this intersection and remain holy and intact and can speak powerfully in any moment of time.

5. Is it possible that a post-denominational spirit makes it so hard for the Conservative movement to regain its power? How will you convince a young, devoted, spirited - but unaffiliated - congregation, that it's important to be a part of a "movement"?

I am not sure that is the goal. Values and vision are the goals. If you look at some of the most exciting and popular unaffiliated congregations or minyanim in the country -- B'nai Jeshurun and Hadar here in New York City, Ikar in Los Angeles, the Washington Square Minyan in Brookline, and many others -- they are animated by common values. Egalitarianism, inclusivity, responsibility of constituents (as opposed to clergy) for creating the community, a serious commitment to tefillah, talmud torah, and tikkun olam -- this menu of values is that of the Conservative movement. So I would think that the movement would claim these institutions proudly and not get hung up on whether these minyanim or synagogues call themselves anything in particular or whether they pay dues to the movement. The values and ideology are the first and most critical ingredient of any enterprise. After that we can start thinking about what kinds of institutions are needed to support these entities, train their leaders, and work to replicate their success.  

Why the "official" institutions of the movement have in some cases fallen short of the values embodied by B'nai Jeshurun or Ikar or Hadar is the thornier question!

6. Here's a nagging question: are you all trying to save Conservative Judaism because it's worth saving - or only because old habits, and organizations - die hard? Is it time to just let go and admit defeat at the hands of Reform Judaism and Modern Orthodoxy?

I am invested in the values of the Conservative movement: serious engagement with Jewish life, commitment to egalitarianism and inclusivity, and a belief that individuals should be challenged Jewishly.  If JTS, United Synagogue, or individual synagogues have to be re-invented to live out these values more clearly and effectively, that is not a bad thing. All successful institutions reinvent themselves according to the times in which they live. 

Yes, the Conservative movement has problems, but so too the other movements. Why do we give Modern Orthodoxy a free pass on its lack of commitment to the inclusion of women? Sure, there are 3 or 4 Orthodox synagogues with female clergy, but this represents the tiniest fraction of Orthodox synagogues. In most Orthodox synagogues, women can not even touch the sefer Torah! The Reform movement, too has been slow to emphasize meaningful ritual and tefillah. I think that the institutions of Modern Orthodoxy and Reform have been savvier and smarter about reinventing themselves, and now it is clear to everyone that the Conservative movement has to undertake some serious changes in the way in which it speak to the public. One of the things, for instance,  that we see in the stagnation of the Conservative movement is that the institutions have been concerned with inclusivity at the cost of a coherent ideology. How can you ordain female rabbis and still champion the existence of Conservative synagogues where women do not count in a minyan? There has been too much of an emphasis on taking the middle ground, on hiring leaders who are "non-controversial," and on articulating a platform that is all over the place.  

I am no flag waver for movements. I am, however, realistic, that the Jewish world needs institutions that engage, teach, inspire, and challenge Jewish people. I feel strongly that at least some of those institutions should do so inspired by an ideology of serious devotion to tradition, of egalitarianism, of inclusivity, and of intellectual and academic integrity. If the institutions of Conservative Judaism ceased to exist, trust me, we would be moved to re-invent them.  So why not do that with what we have? 

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1  |  Tzvi/amerikkka, Thursday Jun 25, 2009
nservative judaism is NOT stagnating, its disentegrating!
2  |  Hershel Barg, Philadelphia, PA, Thursday Jun 25, 2009
In answer to Mr. Rosner's final question, on the basis of what I read in the article I would answer, "Yes, it is time to admit defeat at the hands of the Reform movement and Modern Orthodoxy." Joanna Samuels' argument sounds like nothing more than Reform movement dogma dressed up in Conservative movement doctrine. Her repeated use of the word "traditional" with regard to her own practice fails to mask her radical, very non-traditional agenda.
3  |  Rabbi Shecky Putznik, Thursday Jun 25, 2009
I think everything is fine and dandy in the conservative movement/ Last week I performed burial ceremonies for 10 Jews and in the last 6 months I performed burial ceremonies for 250 Jews. Also in the last year I performed 1 marriage ceremony and 2 yrs ago I attended a bris. So you see everything is going as planned.
4  |  Mike Feldman, Canada, Thursday Jun 25, 2009
Rabbi. It sounds as if your members have a much better chance of dying than getting married or circumsized. Doesn't that say something about the Conservative movement?
5  |  http://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/2891/jewish/Wh, Thursday Jun 25, 2009
Her use of "egalitarianism" and "inclusivity" is revealing. She let's us know her true intentions when she disrespectfully/IGNORANTly says "we give modern orthodoxy a free pass on its lack of commitment to the inclusion of women." WRONG! JEWISH WOMEN ARE EQUAL. Samuels' tries to make the old and false argument that observant Jews are intolerant and sexist. If so, why is it they conclude a child of a Jewish MAN and a gentile woman (even ref/consvt. "converts") isn't Jewish? Isn't that MALE discrimination?! NO! It's following TORAH which HONORS JEWISH WOMEN and their HOLY ROLE.
6  |  Hofikoman, Friday Jun 26, 2009
Klal Yisrael - Inclusivity was inseparable from Conservative Judaism's original successes. For the Conservative Movement to have remained successful according to its original ideology required a more sophisticated dialectic between its emphasis on Halacha as the foundation of unity and the real time pragmatics to not only maintaining but enhancing Jewish Unity. Back in the fifties there was hope for an accommodation with Rav Soloveichik and orthodoxy, but when that fell through the ongoing real time challenges for augmenting unity were not engaged. Masorti Judaism. became a denomination.
7  |  elliot, Friday Jun 26, 2009
this woman's real religion is 'progressive' which really means liberal democrat...not a word about jewish 'activism'i.e. zionism or anything unfashionable like moschiach or any confidence that tradititional observance does help rescue the world...she could be a 'community organizer'!
8  |  Seymour in Berkeley, Friday Jun 26, 2009
What I found most interesting in Samuel's responses to Shmuel's questions is not a single word about the centrality of the state of Israel in Jewish thinking--a real life, struggling pluralistic state. We can get so caught up in ideologies of universalism and tikkun olaming we fail to attend to what makes Jews and Judaism uniquely different and set apart and why Israel as a secure Jewish homeland requires our top priority of active attention and support.
9  |  Shalom Freedman, Friday Jun 26, 2009
There is no doubt that the element of 'tikkun olam' and of being a moral example for mankind is a central element in Judaism. But there is also the teaching which requires us to care 'for the poor of our own city' first. The assimilating and demographically troubled Jewish world is the Conservative home - court. It was also interesting to me that this interview said not one word about the vicious anti-Israel attacks which have become more and more prelavent in American universities and intellectual forums to which Conservative Jews are not strangers. These should be first priorities.
10  |  Terry - Eilat, Israel, Friday Jun 26, 2009
This mentality is exactly why people are drifting away from Judaism. I'm completely secular, I haven't been in a synagogue since my bar mitzva. But this is not my idea of Judaism, that's for sure. Judaism isn't about being a liberal Democrat - it's about belonging to the Jewish people & that means the central importance of Israel. You can see by the small number of comments that for many, this whole thing lacks relevence. While I may be secular, it seems to me that Modern Orthodox is far more relevent to our future than either Conservative or Reform.
11  |  Joseph Baltimore, Friday Jun 26, 2009
Samson Raphael Hirsch believed that the Emancipation gave us the opportunity to bring Torah into the market place of ideas. Moshe Feinstein said we who live in a malchus shel chesed like the USA or UK must embrace our civic responsibilities. Tikun Olam therefore has been part of Orthodoxy for about 150 years. The problem is more often we are too busy maintaining our lifestyles.
12  |  Yacov Yosifovitch, NYC: Please See DUETERONOMY 12:32-31, Friday Jun 26, 2009
Dear Revvi: "The Reform movement, too has been slow to emphasize meaningful ritual and tefillah. I think that the institutions of Modern Orthodoxy and Reform have been savvier and smarter about reinventing themselves, and now it is clear to everyone that the Conservative movement has to undertake some serious changes in the way in which it speak to the public."?? Note: In America there are 2 "BASORAH's" [old] or may i [WE] say [New?] "MASORAH's" in AMERICAN, not Israeli, European, South American.. i.e., Rabbi David WOLPE's "ETZ CHAIM" & Rabbi A. STEINSALTZs "CHUMASH" & their many Commentarys.
13  |  Yacov Yosifovitch All Abraham &Vedic+Religions notMade inUSA, Friday Jun 26, 2009
COMMENTARY: i'm an "Ordained Relationship Minister" [ORM] of the "Holy Cosmic Feelers Faith" aka "The Religion of Everything before the Science of Everything" via O.U.R. B.O.T. {O.ne U.niversal R.eligion -- B.ook O.f T.transfinity} aka the "ULTRA-PARATESTAMENT", aka "BiBLE OF THE FUTURE" is a New-Age U.S.A. Born Belief/Religion Based on TRUTH (not MYTH) via the Prophecy's of our Father/Prophet , of many, hir Albert EiNSTEIN [pbuh] . O.U.R. 2-main Philosophy's are "QUANTUM ENTANGLEMENT" & "RELATIVITY" story's! Hence a NEW-SONG, coming from All Ye Oldy's! O.U.R. 'G-D' is an "IT" not a HEorHER!
14  |  Mike Feldman, Canada, Friday Jun 26, 2009
reading #5 I get the rationale that women have a HOLY role in Judiasm becasue they have the kosher oven to bake a Jewish baby. Then they get to make and keep a Jewish home. I am not particularly interested in womens' lib (they don't need my help), but I can see where in the modern world, Jewish women may have different aspirations. This role is not much different than the role of women in autocratic theocracies. I don't know very much about Israel's internal politics, but can I asssume that Livni didn't do well in the Orthdox sector? My wife loves going to synagogue.. Me not so much
15  |  Bels, UK, Friday Jun 26, 2009
#10. Thank you for the best laugh I have had in ages.
16  |  Tzvi- Philadelphia, Friday Jun 26, 2009
Mrs. Samuels, Remember that Torah is DIVINE- not up for negotiation or debate. If remove emunah in both the Oral and Written Torah Mi'Sinai, what remains is a ritual shell- a body without a soul. Look at Lakewood- Beis Medrash Govoha- the Torah that has defined us as Jews throughout history is as alive as when Hashem gave it at Har Sinai. While nothing can destroy Judaism, only those Jews who love Hashem and accept Kabalat Ol Malchut Shamayim have a share in the Eternity of Klal Yisrael. Remember that Hashem loves you. May you be blessed in all ares and may Moshiach come in your merit-AMEN!!
17  |  ApostasyUSA, Friday Jun 26, 2009
Religions everywhere are slowly losing their grip on power and the people of this world will be better off because of it. It time for people to push the old world crap aside and start using logic and reason to make decisions that affect the lives of people. The separation of church and state is VERY important for real justice, tolerance and intelligence to proliferate throughout humankind.
18  |  Reuven - The Netherlands, Friday Jun 26, 2009
Terry, Amen, bro. I have bid farewell to Reform for precisely that reason. Unfortunately, Conservative now also wants to become bible-waving liberals, too. Why pay dues to such an institution when you've got Starbucks?
19  |  H.Neil - NY, Friday Jun 26, 2009
I was bar mitzvahed from her Cong Habonim in Manhattan in 1979. The cantor taught me Hebrew just enough to chant approx 1-2 paragraphs of the parsha after memorizing it. Now that I stumbled upon orthodoxy 25 years later thru Aish, I see I am a victim of a wholly inadequate Jewish "education" which Cong Habonim and other reform and conservative congregations pass off as a normative Jewish education. Eight year olds in my ortho NY neighborhood read better Hebrew than I, and they read the whole parsha for their bar mitzvah, not a crumb like me! She needs to clean up her own mess first.
20  |  Joel, Saturday Jun 27, 2009
The Haddassah/Brandeis study "Matrilineal Ascent/Patrilineal descent" reports (among other interesting findings regarding Observant, Conservative, and Reform) that observant Jews have the highest percentage when it comes to the centrality of Israel in their lives, followed by a distant consvt. and then reform following FAR behind. To all those people that look down on people who are observant, I ask you one question? WHY DO THEY CARE THE MOST ABOUT ISRAEL? Sure, they may not donate as much money as the other groups, but they are ensuring a Jewish tomorrow with Jewish grandchildren.
21  |  Joel, Saturday Jun 27, 2009
The Haddassah/Brandeis study "Matrilineal Ascent/Patrilineal descent" reports (among other interesting findings regarding Observant, Conservative, and Reform) that observant Jews have the highest percentage when it comes to the centrality of Israel in their lives, followed by a distant consvt. and then reform following FAR behind. To all those people that look down on people who are observant, I ask you one question? WHY DO THEY CARE THE MOST ABOUT ISRAEL? Sure, they may not donate as much money as the other groups, but they are ensuring a Jewish tomorrow with Jewish grandchildren.
22  |  Joel, Saturday Jun 27, 2009
The Haddassah/Brandeis study "Matrilineal Ascent/Patrilineal descent" reports (among other interesting findings regarding Observant, Conservative, and Reform) that observant Jews have the highest percentage when it comes to the centrality of Israel in their lives, followed by a distant consvt. and then reform following FAR behind. To all those people that look down on people who are observant, I ask you one question? WHY DO THEY CARE THE MOST ABOUT ISRAEL? Sure, they may not donate as much money as the other groups, but they are ensuring a Jewish tomorrow with Jewish grandchildren.
23  |  Joel, Saturday Jun 27, 2009
The Haddassah/Brandeis study "Matrilineal Ascent/Patrilineal descent" reports (among other interesting findings regarding Observant, Conservative, and Reform) that observant Jews have the highest percentage when it comes to the centrality of Israel in their lives, followed by a distant consvt. and then reform following FAR behind. To all those people that look down on people who are observant, I ask you one question? WHY DO THEY CARE THE MOST ABOUT ISRAEL? Sure, they may not donate as much money as the other groups, but they are ensuring a Jewish tomorrow with Jewish grandchildren.
24  |  Joel, Saturday Jun 27, 2009
The Haddassah/Brandeis study "Matrilineal Ascent/Patrilineal descent" reports (among other interesting findings regarding Observant, Conservative, and Reform) that observant Jews have the highest percentage when it comes to the centrality of Israel in their lives, followed by a distant consvt. and then reform following FAR behind. To all those people that look down on people who are observant, I ask you one question? WHY DO THEY CARE THE MOST ABOUT ISRAEL? Sure, they may not donate as much money as the other groups, but they are ensuring a Jewish tomorrow with Jewish grandchildren.
25  |  Brian-Philadelphia, Saturday Jun 27, 2009
As a lifelong member (47 years) of the Conservative Movement I would have to say that it certainly is dying. It crossed the line from being Traditional with an eye to adaptation to being.. well Reconstructionist. A very long time ago under the guidance of Schecter we decided that the Torah is our guiding light. Meaning, we accept Torah me Sinai ang while we say "why not" in grey areas (women in minyan etc.) and turn a blind eye as a means of tolerance we do not decide that we have the right to change the law. Now that they've violated those precepts Conservative Judaism is done.
26  |  Sam R USA, Saturday Jun 27, 2009
With all our enemies in this goofy world, we Jews are really something. We love internecinic battles. Who is a Jew? What is best Ortho, Conserve, Reform, Secular, left, Right..We can find Jews in every one of these groupings. And this as our enemies (who have hated us for 4000 years) plan our demise. Even in the defense of Jerusalem in 70 ce..the Jews who were holding off the powerful Romans for 3 yrs, but starting figthing among themselves and you know what happened then, Its called Diaspora! Will we Jews ever learn? Hitler didnt care what kind of Jews we were..straight to Auschwitz!
27  |  #14 FOUNDATION for a JEWISH FUTURE (no ref/gentile grandkids, Sunday Jun 28, 2009
"My wife loves going to synagogue.. Me not so much" YOUR STATEMENT SAYS IT ALL! The FACT that your WIFE, a WOMAN, likes to go to synagogue more than YOU, a MAN, demonstrates the FACT that WOMEN are the FOUNDATION of the JEWISH PEOPLE. Let's do an experiment, we have a single Jewish MOTHER (a WOMAN) and a single Jewish Father (a man) and they each have their own kids. Which person, the Jewish WOMAN, or Jewish man, will be more successful in raising children who are observant or care enough about their Jewish identity that they marry Jewish? The WOMAN, because they are naturally more spiritual.
28  |  Shel Zahav in Jerusalem, Sunday Jun 28, 2009
The Conservative "movement" is a shambles for several reasons. First of all, it cannot define itself. It likes to call itself and all other Jewish religious involvement a "movement", but this is dead wrong. "Orthodox" is not a movement but a collective name for Torah-observant Jews. There is no real orthodoxy since the population of Torah-observant Jews is very, very diverse. Second, the Conservative "movement" does not know what it believes in. It pretends to believe in keeping shabbat "but"... (there are always "buts" with the Conservatives). It pretends to believe in kashrut, but...
29  |  Shel Zahav in Jerusalem, Sunday Jun 28, 2009
The Conservative and Reform misuse of "tikun olam" is ludicrous. They need it as they try to inspire their youth. since Conservative and Reform Judaism are so lacking in Judaism, they can't inspire anybody that way. So, they try to adopt a leftist international agenda about helping others and they try to re-define an old Jewish concept, tikun olam, in an attempt to give a Jewish slant to their leftist agenda. For the record, "tikun olam" means "bringing monotheism into the world". The first use of the term is in the Alenu prayer. It does not mean "repairing the world thru social works".
30  |  Mike Feldman, Canada, Sunday Jun 28, 2009
#27-Agreed, But my wife wants to sit next to me when we attend. She wouldn't go to sit in the nose bleed section, partitioned for women only.
31  |  Joel, Sunday Jun 28, 2009
Lack of knowledge of the mitzvot and the reason why, for example, the sexes should pray separately leads people to conclude that Observance (you would say "orthodox) is "sexist, intolerant, racist, etc." Sometimes what we, as you say, "WANT" is not what we NEED. Your wife "WANTS" to sit with you, but that's not part of the reason why we pray. Praying is a time between you and G-d, NO ONE ELSE TO DISTRACT YOU (like your husband or wife). I suggest going to a Lubavitch shul or Chabad House. They usually have a mechitza on the same level, down the middle.
32  |  Sara, Sunday Jun 28, 2009
this is from someone who is neither Orthodox nor reform: I found the reform movement more humane than the Orthdox movement. The Reform movement recognize that all human beings are equal, crated by God. the Orthdox, which is far from being monolithic, are deeply racist. Some of them, like Chabad, even think that non-Jews are animals walking on two feet.
33  |  Mo, Sunday Jun 28, 2009
What is the particularly Jewish aspect of the Conservative/Reform "tikkun olam"? Why do they need to say what they are doing, from helping in Darfur to environmentalism to women's and abortion "rights" and gay rights...is a Jewish cause? It's all the Western lib agenda. If anything, abortion and gay rights are antithetical to Judaism, as Judaism NEVER condoned gay sex and abortion was to be limited to save the life of the mother. Even if one thinks those are all wonderful causes, what is particularly Jewish about them? Why not be secular or Christian, what is the L'havdil? (the difference)
34  |  Hanoi Paris Hilton, l'Amerique Profonde, Monday Jun 29, 2009
As the old saying goes, "is the Pope Catholic?" Is a rabbi with a congregation on the Upper West Side of Manhattan a liberal, capital "d" Democrat? And by extension, you evidently don't have to be Jewish, much less be aligned with the Conservative tradition, to like --or evidently, even to be nominated onto-- Rabbi Samuels's "heroes" roster of globalized social justice activists: a group markedly un-shy about trumpeting their high-minded visions and noble selves... What exactly then is the market niche that Rabbi Samuels would serve that isn't vastly over-served already by the Obamazoids?
35  |  Chanya, Israel, Monday Jun 29, 2009
to Sara-#33 - the "humanity" of Orthodoxy - if you think Orthodoxy is so inhumane, you must have met different Orthodox Jews than I did. I know so many who will go out of their way for ANYONE (not to say there aren't racist Orthodox Jews-but that's not exclusive to Orthodoxy). I also know that in the Reform temple where I grew up, so many people were denied entry because they couldn't pay the dues-denied entry even when they lost a job, the breadwinner died, etc. This is humane? This is tikkun olam? Before you make such sweeping statements about Orthodoxy, perhaps you should get out more.
36  |  RKMD, Suffern, NY USA, Monday Jun 29, 2009
To #17 ApostasyUSA: Perhaps you are unaware that one third of the concentration camp commandants had doctorate degrees. By use of reason and intellence without recognition of eternal values the most scientifically and culturally advanced nation in Europe devolved into euthanasia and genocide. I would hope an appreciation of mankind's intellectual limits might temper your arrogant secular humanism and distain for Israel's holy mission.
37  |  Yitzhak US, Tuesday Jun 30, 2009
#5.Where in Torah does it state that the woman is the one who determines the Jewishness of the child?From what I understand the law of return to Israel is the mother because it was to hard to determine who a Jew was.The Jewish mother was usually,by tradition,the one who possessed the marriage contract,katubah.But in Torah the line was thru the father.Look at Boaz & the gentile Ruth the Moabites.Their son was obed who was the father of Jesse the father of King David.?hhmm.Didn't the 12 tribes have more then 1 mother?Who was the determining factor there?It was the father, yaacov."Israel".
38  |  Yitzhak US, Tuesday Jun 30, 2009
By the way, how many of the levites who were priests were women?And those who worked that tabernacle ie carrying et al were women?Was any of Aarons daughters priests?? I am thinking that G-d never intended for the Spiritual head to be a woman. I know that doesn't set well with some but look at the evidence. The Torah is like HaShem (blessed be the Name)the same now as it/He was then. Some things do change with time . But the truth passed down thru Torah is never changing. There is a reason for this.
39  |  Robert Jerusalem, Tuesday Jun 30, 2009
The conservative movement needs to move in the direction of promoting Jewish observance and becoming a kind of egalitarian Modern Orthodox if it wants to survive. You have to offer people something of substance spiritually if you want to keep them engaged.
40  |  Mike Silver, Denver, Friday Jul 03, 2009
Stick to healing antisemitism and antipathy towards Israel. That's a plate fulll. The rest of the world's problems are beyond your reach at the moment. You won't increase membership with diluted goals. And reference to lefties like Ruth Messinger et. al. as heros is a sure way to turn off TRADITIONAL conservatives.
41  |  Yanni in Yoridia, Saturday Jul 04, 2009
Get out of here you useless feminist cxunt, destroyers of families and western civilisation, a burning at the stake is what you deserve you witchy bxitch.
42  |  Just a thought - USA, Tuesday Jul 07, 2009
A crowd of Orthodox Jews pushed a terrified female reporter up against a wall and spat on her because she pulled out a camera, which according to them is some kind of violation of Jewish Sabbath religious custom. Now I respect peoples rights to religious custom. But I think you people have a much bigger problem than Orthodoxy, Conservatism or liberalism. It puzzles me why you think the Muslims are fanatics. Everybody is just as prideful as everybody else in a sinfull world. I suspect this includes all religions including Jews.
43  |  Just a thought - USA, Tuesday Jul 07, 2009
A crowd of Orthodox Jews pushed a terrified female reporter up against a wall and spat on her because she pulled out a camera, which according to them is some kind of violation of Jewish Sabbath religious custom. Now I respect peoples rights to religious custom. But I think you people have a much bigger problem than Orthodoxy, Conservatism or liberalism. It puzzles me why you think the Muslims are fanatics. Everybody is just as prideful as everybody else in a sinfull world. I suspect this includes all religions including Jews.
44  |  Hillel, Friday Jul 17, 2009
The red-herring that has become indicative of both reform and conservative Jews is that there are problems everywhere. This is quite insightful considering that throughout the span of human history there has been no lack of problems to point to. The question is an issue of observance and continuity. This is an issue that the conservative movement simply prefers to ameliorate via pulpit sermons and blogs that border on the absurd; susceptible only to their constituents and mind-numbed adherents.
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