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There's a new survey report from PEW in which some interesting numbers on Israel and its neighbors are hidden. The chapter on foreign affairs reveals, for example, that Obama is "striking the right balance" on peace processing. "While 17% say he favors the Palestinians too much and 6% believe he favors Israel too much", 62% of Americans do not see any problem with the way the President handles the Israeli-Arab conflict.

Here are some more numbers and conclusions from this poll.

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The percentage of Americans thinking Iran is a "major threat to the US" climbed to 69%. That's a record number of Americans believing Iran to be a threat. Here's the table comparing surveys from May 2008 to June 2009. Note that this survey was taken before recent events in Iran started to unfold. It's probably reasonable to expect that the response to this same question in the next poll will be different – depends on the outcome.

 

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Iran is one of two issues on which the partisan gap is significant (the other being the Israeli-Palestinian conflict). Generally speaking, Republicans are "more likely" than Democrats to see "major threats", with "the biggest gaps over Iran's nuclear program (15 points), the Israeli-Palestinian conflict (14 points) and Islamic extremist groups (13 points)". However - while on Iran the general pattern is repeated (82% of Republicans see it as a threat, only 67% of Democrats see it as a threat), one the Israeli-Palestinian conflict the outcome is somewhat confusing: Republicans (57%) see it as a threat much more than Democrats (43%).

As I wrote not long ago, "a 20% gap on Israel between American Democrats and Republicans is the norm rather than the exception". But in this PEW study it is not exactly clear what the two groups mean when they say the conflict is a "major threat". PEW's study is not as misleading as the Gallup poll I wrote about last week, because it doesn't portray Israel as a "threat" to the US. And the numbers of the two surveys barely resemble one another. In PEW, 57% of Republicans see the Israeli-Palestinian conflict as "major threat", in Gallup, it is only 22% who say that these "countries pose a direct threat to the US". In PEW, it is 43% of Democrats, in Gallup only 13%.

What remains similar in these two polls is the fact that there are more Republicans than Democrats thinking that the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is a threat to the US. That is interesting, and is not exactly in tune with previous polls asking questions about the conflict. It is generally assumed that Republicans are much more supportive of Israel than Democrats, but the answer of Republicans to the questions of Gallup and PEW make them seen as less supportive of Israel (Israel wants to believe that the Israeli-Palestinian conflict doesn't much impact American security). I think it's mostly because of misperception on the part of respondents to the surveys, but further investigation into these numbers is due.

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Another predictable gap between Democrats and Republicans - one much more in tune than the gap in the previous question: "Republicans are about as likely to say Obama is striking the right balance in the Middle East (43%) as say he favors the Palestinians too much (36%). Majorities of Democrats (78%) and independents (64%) say Obama is striking the right balance when it comes to the Middle East". In short, a sizable number of Republicans (and 37% of white Evangelicals) don't like the way Obama deals with Israel. However, Americans in general don't yet see a problem with Obama's policy in the region. At this point in time, Israel can't expect public outcry over Obama's alleged "pressure" on Israel.   

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1  |  True Semite, Sunday Jun 21, 2009
Palestine is not the ancient homeland of the Jews. Khazaria is. Palestine was inhabited by the ancient Arab Cananaites thousands of years before the advent of the Hebrews. Moreover, Ashkenazis are not really a semitic people. They are Europeans. Just look at their faces and skins.
2  |  Not Jewish, Sunday Jun 21, 2009
Ros, this American cares about Israel and many, many more Americans also care. I do believe that many Americans are somewhat naive about Israel and the ME. These same US simpletons are also naive about Obama's tremendous pressure on Israel & his wicked attempt to force feed Israel his Arab peace plan or you might call it "Obama's Death To Israel Scheme". Israel must do more to educate the ignorant be they are Americans, Israelis, or whoever about the true realities of being a Jew in a sea of Arabs.
3  |  Boris, Jerusalem, Sunday Jun 21, 2009
Well, there's no negative reaction to Obama's pressure on Israel - exactly because there's no "pressure" yet. Americans see no problem with new administration speaking its mind on settlements (and neither shoud we, BTW). If the disagreements will turn into open conflict with concrete actions rather then words, then the polls woluld be much more interesting. In fact, here's simple polling question for now: "Would you support financial sanctions against Israel in order to force it to freeze the settlements" - yes/no.
4  |  American citizen, Mid west, Sunday Jun 21, 2009
Obama is not against Israel, he declared a thousand time his commitment to Israel's security. He did so even in Cairo during his speech to the Muslim world. However, standing on the side of Israel is one thing, and allowing Israel to control America and its politics and policies is another thing. America can't allow Israel to exterminate six million Palestinians in the name of Jewish settlements. America has also important interests in the Muslim world. We can't just alienate 1.6 billion people for the sake of a few Jewish supremacists who think non-Jews are animals.
5  |  Hofikoman, Sunday Jun 21, 2009
True ANTI Semite - the DNA says you are wrong - Palestinian and Jewish DNA closer to each other than to any other groups. And you are a racist: "Just look at their skins!" Obama will make sure the IDF is in good shape, after he convinces us to make our painful sacrifices. So watch your backside, because after the peace deal, it will be the antisemites who are in our sights.
6  |  Another Christian Zionist, Sunday Jun 21, 2009
Obama is NOT only against Israel, he is against America too. 900 million to Hamas while he gives the finger to General Motors is enough proof. The fact that the coward won't speak up on behalf of Iranian freedom lovers while going bananas over a Jew building a playground for his child is another. As for the imbecile who wants America to stop Israeli extermination of Palestinian Muslims, too bad he wasn't in one of the Twin Towers on 9/11, or on Pan Am Flight 103...murdered by those whom he'd love. Since he's so passionate about the Palestinians, he should move to Gaza where he belongs
7  |  Terry - Eilat, Israel, Sunday Jun 21, 2009
#5 Hofikoman - that's not exactly what DNA research shows. What it did show is that European Jews have markers indicating a Middle-Eastern background but it also shows a close connexion between Ashkenazi & Sephardi Jews with the exception of Libyan Jews & Ethiopians. It also shows that Samaritans are very closely related to other Jews. But the closest affinity was to Kurds, also an ancient Middle-East population. We are not all that closely related to Palestinians aside from the general Middle-East markers common to ALL populations from this region.
8  |  Terry - Eilat, Israel, Sunday Jun 21, 2009
On the same subject, Palestinians are very fond of mythological history. Perhaps they should claim ancestry with the Neanderthals who once lived in the region. The ancient Canaanites were not Arabs. Hebrew is a dialect of Canaanite which essentially means that Jews are the descendants of the Canaanite population who assimilated with the Hebrew tribes. There is no evidence that European Jews are descended from Khazars & linguistic evidence in Yiddish confirms this. It would be of greater interest to try to define what an Arab is actually, using genetic markers.
9  |  moron, Sunday Jun 21, 2009
what was your first clue?
10  |  Terry - Eilat, Israel, Sunday Jun 21, 2009
Now back to the topic. Americans, including American Jews, have only the most superficial knowledge of Middle-Eastern history, culture, & conflicts. They barely know the issues & are influenced very much by a biased media. When Obama says over & over he supports Israel, Americans just accept that at face value without going deeper into the subject. Informed people would have a different opinion. I'm suspicious of polls, however, because the questions are phrased to push people into a response. The simplistic nature of the questions ignores important details.
11  |  Steve Jackson, veteran Journalist, Sunday Jun 21, 2009
Terry, Elat. you accuse US media of being biased against Israel. THis is the most outrageous claim I've ever heard. How can the US media be biased against Israel when it is tightly controlled by Zionist Jews and owned by ZIonist Jews? Don't you know that American Jews control the main agenda-setter media in America, such as the New York Times, Washington Post, New York Post, Wall Street Journal, New Republic, Commentary, Washington Times, Fox News, CBS, NBC, ABC, Chicago Tribune, Int'l Herald Tribune, etc.?
12  |  Henry Williams, London, Sunday Jun 21, 2009
Terry, you are wrong, the Canannites were slaughtered en mass by the Hebrews. Hence Jews can't be descendants of the Cannanites. Hebrew evolved out of the Aramaic language. The Hebrews were a people of a very primitive culture compared to other nations around them, including the Cannanites. Indeed, at one point the Hebrews, or many of them, worshiped the pagan god of the cannanites. The Cannanites were arabs who had immigrated from the Arabian Peninsula. Their language is a precursor of the Arabic language. As to Ashkenazi Jews, they are not semites at all. Jewish myths mean nothing.
13  |  former Evangelical, Sunday Jun 21, 2009
Christian Zionists are actualy Talmudic Jews who hate Jesus. They only claim to be christians to dupe other Christians to support Israel. How could a true Christian support institutions that are decidedly anti-Christian?
14  |  David USA, Sunday Jun 21, 2009
Many journalists and academicians in the USA are hostile to Israel and they see themselves as leading a propaganda war to undermine Israel. They do not represent many Americans but they use their control over news outlets and universities to wage their war. There is no difference from what you see on al-Jazeera and what is taught at Columbia and Georgetown Universities. Roger Cohen of the New York Times has made a career out of blaming Israel for everything under the sun. It is vital that everyone challenge and expose these biased journalists. They can be defeated with the truth.
15  |  Mike Feldman, Canada, Sunday Jun 21, 2009
#11, If you're a veteran journalist, I'm the guy who broke the Watergate story. Please provide your references .Former Evangelical -did you spill some alphabet soup and the random landing of the letters spelled out your post? Terry-I don't think that the Palestinians need to claim ancestral relationship to the Neandertals. I thinik de facto its real. No insult to the Neanderthals. To all you historians - does this lineage thing have anything to do with the (hopefully) upcoming negotiations for peaceful co-existance between the Israelis and the Arab states? If so, they're spend years arguing
16  |  Terry - Eilat, Israel, Sunday Jun 21, 2009
#15 - Mike Feldman, Canada. - It's really not worth the effort to reply to these intellectually challenged semi-literates. I only replied to #1 because I like to deflate Arabs when they comment, it's just a bad habit. I didn't mean to insult the Neanderthals - I'm sure they were far more intellectually gifted than many of our species. Actually, I'm sorry they're no longer around, they would have made better neighbors. By the way, Semitic is not a race it's a linguistic classification. This site seemingly attracts a lot of European nut-cases, I don't know why.
17  |  ina-scotland, Sunday Jun 21, 2009
Dont you believe americans dont care about Israel.There's millions of evangelical christians who totally support the state AND people of Israel and will hold obama responsible if he does anything that harms them. The so called americans that HATE the Israelis are those in the ACLU who would also like to see america DISCREDITED are the likes of the atheists, jesse jackson, so called rev wright,.. and the nation of islam,.and we'll just wait and see what camp obama's in.You'll find them all in universities ACROSS america spewing out their hatred to the YOUNG vunerable students.
18  |  Yacov Yosifovitch NYC:Albert Einstein notwantbe Israel Prez, Sunday Jun 21, 2009
SHALOM! As a 2nd Generation Post-SHOAH-Child that, During Albert Einstein day's [pbuh et al] Americans was financing Israel's establishment/survival (as a SECULAR STATE; not as a JEWiSH State; imagine America being Christian State?) both pre & post 1948. But Today most so-called .S. Jews are sick & tired of man-made COMPETING Religion(s) Sytems & their "Yzuriz's" for both "ABRAHAMiC"(s) & VEDiC"s SYSTEMS like Judeo-Jews/Christians/Musloms & Mormons & their jealous copy cats on one hand; & the competing Judeo-Hindus/Buddhas/Coinfucus/Shinto's etal too. Hence the Abrahamic & Vedic Question!?
19  |  john , USA, Sunday Jun 21, 2009
To #13:- Absolute nonsense. You evidently made such a bizzare state just to rankle Evangelicals who love Jesus, [Yeshua], and whose support for the Jewish people and Israel comes from the Bible itself. I've heard and read many "reasons" propagated by Israel hating folks as to why the vast majority of Evangelical Christians support Israel. But none of them states this simple truth: The Lord himself said in his Word to Israel," I will bless those who bless you, and curse those who curse you." And in another place in Scripture it says to "Comfort my people".
20  |  Yacov Yosifovitch ON:Realitys ofThe Abrahamic&Vedic Question, Sunday Jun 21, 2009
Oooopps. CORRECTION: "... most U.S. Jews ... sick & tired of man-made "TZURiSs's" [Problems]..." So today We are faced with that nasty "Abrahamic & now Vedic Question which is NO-longer only a Jewish Question, but now Hindu Question instead! Note: Holyi-TIME via "IT" {G-D by 1,000 names & nomore by 99 names} does not wait nor discriminate! & the world now see's that {G-D/Almighty/Lord/Ishvara/Rocknot.... no-longer, does-NOT Favors any Earthling or Israeli's as if be HIS/HE/HIMs Chosen/favored kinda's. Note: G-D of Earth, not Israel, not America et al, is not a HE/HIM/HIS nor a "SHE/HERS".
21  |  Yacov Yosifovitch :U.S.Finatic-Jews shoud be imprisoned here, Sunday Jun 21, 2009
continued: Today most American Jews are "SECULAR". And Most of Us U.S. Jews know that in essence THAT besides "FLORiDA" [Where 911 Hijackers learned to Fly] is the 6th Borough of NYC & that "iSRAEL" is like the 51st State of G-Ds Country U.S.A. But when Mr. "Bi-Bi"-Habbibi & CO., talks about "JEWISH-inizing" the Secular State of Israel, as if America also be Christianized Nation/State going BACK in time is sowing seeds for FUTURE Jealousy [Religio competition for G-D} discord/Wars & turns Us off!! There's Finatic U.S. Orthodox Jew(s) who Love & Side w/IRAN's Theocracy via Ahmadinjad ..
22  |  Miike Feldman, Canada, Sunday Jun 21, 2009
Terrry. If you read my posts, I'm not exactly nice to the Euro-trash either. Tom (although he claims to be from the U.S.) is my favourite, cloesely followed by Mireille from gay Paree. Lately, Shlaim's nutty head has popped up. I'm 100% with you. I''m happy to take a few minutes now and then to challenge these nut bars. Unfortunately they're too stupid and stubborn to be easily humiliated by calling them on their drivel. So let's keep it up.
23  |  Christian aid worker, Bethlehem, Sunday Jun 21, 2009
John, you seem to be both ignorant and fanatical. "I will bless those who bless you" refers to the God-fearing family of Yaccov, otherwise known as Israel. It has nothing to do with modern Talmudic and secular Jews, many of whom don't believe in God. Besides, millions of Yacob's descendants are actually christians and Muslims, not Jews. God doesn't and won't bless people who murder, steal, fornicate, and lie. God doesnt' bless people who indulge in mass extermination and genocide. If you think God blesses criminals, christians, Jews or Muslims, then I feel sorry for you.
24  |  amayreh@p-ol.com, Sunday Jun 21, 2009
Yacov, Albert Einstein was against Zionism.
25  |  Hofikoman, Sunday Jun 21, 2009
If Israel wants to defeat academic antisemitism, it has to send delegations of its people to the university campuses. Don't refute with arguments, but rather with visible proof. The Jews are a rainbow people whose culture promotes questioning and thus many opinions. Antisemitism is a completely bogus descriptive straitjacket with absolutely no validity. And Terry from Eilat is right, there is no such thing as a semitic race. That is why there is no such word as "Anti-Semitism," but only antisemitism. Antisemitism, a word coined by a Jew hater, creates the myth of semitism.
26  |  Hofikoman, Sunday Jun 21, 2009
Before Obama resurrected classical American foreign policy realism, antisemites were far more embarrased to show their colors. Now because of Obama's gravity shifting of American interests over to the Arabs and Muslims, the antisemitic genie is really coming out its bottle. With the rabid white supremacist antisemitic racist attacker of the US Holocaust Memorial in custody and facing trial, those who understand the depth of the connection between Arabism, Islamism and antisemitism need to expose the link. Insist that Palestinians renounce Haj Amin El Husseini's Nazi legacy.
27  |  psk urbe, Sunday Jun 21, 2009
Clearly, the birth of Jewish babies on the West Bank is the cause of all problems in the Middle East. Without those babies Iran and Saudia Arabia, Yemen and Lebanon, all Muslim nations would leave in the same peace and harmony that has characterized the region for over a thousand years. Why should the United States support Israel? -- a wicked, evil state: just look at its democracy, its universities, and the unending repression of civil dissent (Teheran owns Haaretz is, I guess). Americans should stick to coca cola and hamburgers, stop reading newspapers, be happy, ignorant , and blind.
28  |  An American, Massachusetts, USA, Sunday Jun 21, 2009
New here but 1st many non-Jewish Americans care deeply about Israel however, the media in America is a big problem. We here about the bombings and rocket attacks in other areas of the Middle East but not in Israel. Few people know the history of Israel and Palestine (now Jordan) from the League of Nations forward and nothing of the persecution of non-Muslims. Israel is made to seem as large as any other country in the Middle East as well. If the main stream American media would publish the facts about Israel and the attacks on her people there would be much more outward public support.
29  |  Mike Feldkman, Canada, Sunday Jun 21, 2009
Christian aide worker. In your last sentence you just damned the whole of civilization. You must be the only good one left. What's wrong wth fornicating? If not for fornicating, you wouldn't be here.
30  |  Terry - Eilat, Israel, Sunday Jun 21, 2009
#22 Mike Feldman, Canada - If you really want to catch the Euro-trash (I prefer Euro-wimps) the best site is The Economist whenever there is an article on Israel or the ''poor suffering innocent Palestinians'' - you will have hundreds of nutcases & outright anti-Semites to go after. I'd like to see a discussion on who is actually an Arab - that would be a fascinating exchange! In the meantime, we are all off-subject but Obama is such a waste of time to discuss. Nonetheless, I am disgusted with Netanyahu for giving even a millimetre to please him. Very bad move.,
31  |  psk, Sunday Jun 21, 2009
at www.whitehouse.gov you can read Mr Obama's spineless statement about the massacre Iran is perpetrating against its own citizens. He calls for an end to violence, but he does not explicitly condemn it. I'm curious: at what point, after how much slaughter, does the US or the UN or NATO or some such power intervene? China and Iran are, I guess, too important to be criticized very clearly. Where is that straight-talking President that Americans wanted? Where is that man who had the courage to speak out? Jewish babies in the West Bank? No!! Violence in Iran? He is *watching*.
32  |  psk Einstein not a Zionist?, Sunday Jun 21, 2009
Wiki: In a 1938 speech, "Our Debt to Zionism", he said: "My awareness of the essential nature of Judaism resists the idea of a Jewish state with borders, an army, and a measure of temporal power, no matter how modest. I am afraid of the inner damage Judaism will sustain—especially from the development of a narrow nationalism within our own ranks, against which we have already had to fight strongly, even without a Jewish state. ... If external necessity should after all compel us to assume this burden, let us bear it with tact and patience."[]
33  |  andy-london, Sunday Jun 21, 2009
Has anyone actually LISTENED to the full hour speech of obama ali akabar mohammed barak.When you have you'll DEFINATELY know he's 1 [against the jews] 2 { going to TRY and turn the USA against Israel] 3[will try and discredit the usa by constantly apologising to other countries for PAST mistakes they've made ] as if the usa was the only country who ever made mistakes.WATCH THIS GUY he's DEFINATELY so called rev or iman wright's prodigy.
34  |  Deborah, Sunny Southern California, Sunday Jun 21, 2009
Problem is media. General Electric owns NBC/MSNBC/CNBC. GE stock under the mismanagement of J.Immelt sits decimated on brink of bankruptcy. GE via NBC, et al, is an ARM of O's Wht, Hse. GE stands to make B-B-BILLIONS off of O's Green Policy & Univ. Healthcare. GE's satalites -in its business interest- reports progagandaized news skewed toward O. GE's broadcast provide O with bastardized platform. This is obvious MEDIA CORRUPTION. This is the FIRST TIME EVER a CORPORATION is using POWER IN MEDIA TO GAIN GOVERMENT CONTRACTS FOR PROFIT. www.businessandmedia,org/articles/2009/20090520141935.aspx
35  |  Jealous for your style of gospel? ... I think not, Sunday Jun 21, 2009
#23 Ps.89:29-35 His seed also will I make to endure]for ever, and his throne as the days of heaven. If his children forsake my law, and walk not in my judgments; If they break my statutes, and keep not my commandments;Then will I visit their transgression with the rod, and their iniquity with stripes. Nevertheless my lovingkindness will I not utterly take from him, nor suffer my faithfulness to fail. My covenant will I not break, nor alter the thing that is gone out of my lips. Once have I sworn by my holiness that I will not lie unto David.His seed shall endure for ever,and his throne ...
36  |  skp, Sunday Jun 21, 2009
Stop Natural Growth in the White House, build on stolen land! An international authority should supervise any physical contact between Mr and Mrs Obama to make sure nothing untoward happens. As for Iran, Mr Obama sounds like the Republican VP candidate, who could *see* Russia from Alaska. The President can see Iran. Is sit prudence or oil that makes the West so relatively tongue-tied while the Regime batters and slaughters its citizens? Even Chancellor Merkel is holding to the Obama line. "Be nice!" they seem to say. Does that mean, "You can kill some, but not all"?
37  |  Yacov Yosifovitch Th AL-TAQIYAH & HINDUTVA threat not Zionis, Sunday Jun 21, 2009
Dear #24 [Amayreh & CO] Note: "Modern-israel" should never be equated with "Ancient-ISRAEL". Yes, it took "Zionism" & their mostly SECULAR majority Zionist (not via Ultra Hasid or orthodox's whom provoked the Shoah aginst US, non finatic Jewishers] to Re-Take as much as possible as the "Survival of the Fittest" Rule allows. TODAY Modern Eretz/YisroelIs aka The-New-SABRA's, does not need Zionists nor their Movements [unlike Bathhovens last movement] anymore. What 'The World" needs to watch-out for is them JEALOUS Islamic "AL TAQIYAH-ists" & competing "HINDUTVA" agents, not us ex-HAGANAians!
38  |  Yacov Yosifovitch:Israel&Palistine must re-writ Costitutions, Sunday Jun 21, 2009
HALAKAH & SHARIA must never be allowed in Both Israeli Constitution & Palistiniane Constitutions . Otherwise Jealousy will find an excuse to War over the religiou sites! Note: As an American-Israeli [SABRA from ex-Haganah Parents] i must admitt that in Sweet Sweet {G-d's Country} U.S. of A's & in NYC that there is a little known community, which We [i] call "Little-Israel". Note: Not the Ultra Orthodox Community's in Borough park or Monsey N.Y. Not Brighton's "Little Odessa", not Little Istanbul, little Italy etc... that WE pledge $1,000,000 to build a bridge/Rail annexing W.BANK & GAZA.
39  |  American, Sunday Jun 21, 2009
It never was the good guys vs the bad guys. More like the stubborn vs the stubborn with one side able to inflict a lot more damage because of power. I am happy to see a clearer and more balanced picture of both sides. Remember the liberal media was at one time extremely pro Israel too. It is just some of the policies have become impossible to endorse anymore while the other side has its own problems that don't invite love either. It was the U.S. responsibility to state a more fair position that didn't endorse either extremes which will end in self destruction of the very values they care for
40  |  bannister , USA, Sunday Jun 21, 2009
The number Americans care about 45 million with no health insurance. 11.4% unemployment. Worst economic situation in 75 years. Gas rising to over $3.00 a gallon. Record foreclosures. 23 million empty homes. Trillions in debt Troops still dying in lands where we have no interest and no prospect of victory.
41  |  Honest Jew, Ofakim, southern Israel, Sunday Jun 21, 2009
on Natural growth, this is a misleading term. The main goal of Jewish settlers in the West Bank is to ethnically cleanse the Palestinians. The Kookians or Kookites (followers of Abrahm Kook) preach openly that christians and Muslims in the West Bank and Israel proper have three choices: Expulsion to the desert, Enslavement as water carriers and wood hewers in the service of the master race (chosen people) or outright extermination? This is the truth. Hence, it is dishonest to babble about "natural growth."
42  |  Inaugural Balls, Sunday Jun 21, 2009
They seem to have worn off.
43  |  psk Disgrace, Sunday Jun 21, 2009
No self respecting government in an Islamic country ever gets less than ninety-nine percent of the vote. This is truly a disgrace for the image of Islame in the world.
44  |  America Cares, Sunday Jun 21, 2009
The US govt. cares very much about natural growth. Even nocturnal omissions in West Bank settlements will be viewed with disfavor by the President. He is watching. Just as he is watching what is happening in Iran. The President watches the stirrings of democracy almost as attently as he imagines the stirrings of seed in those of unpure blood. The President took an oath to watch over something. But I don't think it was the formation of Jewish embryos west of a certain liine. Still, he is generous, he works hard, he watches even things he probably would do better not to think about.
45  |  Yacov Yosifovitch, WE SALUTE&Doff HATS/YAMULKAH to Mr. JOHNS, Sunday Jun 21, 2009
WE [i] American iSARAELi'S both Doff OUR Hats/Yomulkahs off to Brother Tyrone T. JOHNS, a Jewish Mench, and WE [i] SALUTE his Honorable Brother/FATHER & DiCIPLE Brother "Tyrone" forever! WE [i] give Condolences to All JOHNS Family from America & Beyond! Note: There is a Sanity to some Insanity's! Example: Thank G-D for 911! Eventhough i [EWE] lost a Server & Income from 1 World Trade Center Suite 8407; that WE ARE STUDENTS FOREVER OF "Source-One" & that WE NEVER GRADUATE. It is ALL prophecy whose Timeth is cometh NOW/Today & Morrow!
46  |  Khalid, al-Khalil (Hebron), Monday Jun 22, 2009
The present state of Israel has very very little to do with ancient Israe. The vast bulk of Israel's Jewish inhabitants are not semites, they are actually European converts to Talmudic Judaism, or rabbism. Indeed, today, there are more Christian and Muslim descendants of ancient Israel than there are Jews. In the West Bank alone, there are nearly a million Palestinians who have ancient Israelite blood. Their religion is Islam. Hence, lumping this criminal immoral entity, Israel, with ancient Israel is both historicallya and religiosuly wrong.
47  |  Democrat, Monday Jun 22, 2009
PSK, if these so-called Islamic countries are so bad, why does the US and the West in general embrace their despotic regimes? Is the West so immoral that it can not distinguish between true democracies and true tyrannies?
48  |  stephen in kentucky, Monday Jun 22, 2009
I do support Israel. Although, I suppose, hope is all I can really offer, and prayer, that Israel will soon see peace. But that does not seem very likely. When you have people spouting hate messages, such as the call for the destrucion of the Jewish race, and the denial of the holocaust, there isnt much to look forward to as far as peace is concerened. Just the hope that others will open their eyes to a looming threat. God bless.
49  |  God Bless Israel, from TEXAS!, Monday Jun 22, 2009
AMEN! to #1 & #6... Many Americans, including this one, love Israel & the Jewish people & understand their role in biblican history & prophecy. Unfortunately some American's are bigots who care about nothing but themselves. And some are just very uninformed & don't see the situation for what it is. Speaking for myself, I'm wise to Obama & his evil plan & I'm doing my utmost to inform every one I know. And PRAYING for BIBI & Israel! See Israel Today and Senate Leader Harry Reid's lecture letter to Obama. It's about time! Also see the video of Mr. Hernandez at www.zoa.org. God bless you!
50  |  ahmed, sanah, Monday Jun 22, 2009
For differently normals: Khazars were TURKISH people. Please stop kicking the dead donkey. "Ashkenazic" Jews have the same Near Eastern facial and racial features as the "Arabs" from Near East. Arabic is the youngest "Semitic" language (http://www.indiana.edu/~arabic/). Arabs did not exists before 4 Cent CE. Modern "Arabs" have nothing to do with original Arabs - a small tribe from Arabian peninsula. "Palestinians" were introduced by Turks from different parts of Turkish empire, mostly from Bosnia, to settle the deserted land.
51  |  Texan, Monday Jun 22, 2009
Seriously consider the fact that the majority of the news and therefore the perspective of Israel and its ongoing situations are filtered through an American media that is very pro-Obama and democratic. As he slowly destroys this country they applaud their messiah and will strive to interprete his every move as being divine. They cannot let him fail (because they put him there.) They stand ignorant to a great deal of the real world outside their doors and beyond their own television. If you can stand for all these years you can 4 more, we will get back on track and try to clean up his mess.
52  |  andy_london, Monday Jun 22, 2009
hey you marchers of freedom why are you still here?I thought you marched for the freedom of the "poor oppressed pallis"from the "bad" israelis?why are you not marching with the true marchers of freedom in iran.I'll tell you why,it's because it's REAL bullets the hezbullah police there are killing these freedom marchers with,unlike your Israelis which are your soft targets,and you cowards pretend how cruel these "bad" israelis are and after all world dont you see how brave we are sending our kids in to shoot at these israelis.even as young as 9or10.!!How brave you are!!!
53  |  my own opinion, Monday Jun 22, 2009
I Do NOT like the way Obama deals with Israel, and many, many people I know Do NOT like it at all. I don't think 'do not like' even begins to express how I feel. I really can't bear to see Israel get tricked, but in the end i know that G_d holds the storm in his hands. I guess you could call me a 'white, evangelical Christian' that Rosner refers to.
54  |  Barbara ODonnell USA, Monday Jun 22, 2009
I am an American, I support Israel and the US Obama hates both America and Israel.
55  |  mickey_San Francisco, Monday Jun 22, 2009
Obama is going to fail dramatically. America will then take a sharp Right Turn. BO's poll ratings are close to 50% as of last week and his empathy with islamofascism is clearer and more obvious now even to the millions of fools who voted for him. Hussein Harvard simply doesn't have the stomach for a fight. Thsnk God for Bib. He's a true Lion of Judah!
56  |  Matt C, Canada, Monday Jun 22, 2009
I think the reason why more Republicans consider the Israeli-Palestinian conflict a threat is simply because more Republicans than Democrats view terrorism as a threat, rather than because of Israel. The surveys you quote about the "gaps" between Democrats and Republicans help lead me to this conclusion, "the biggest gaps over Iran's nuclear program (15 points), the Israeli-Palestinian conflict (14 points) and Islamic extremist groups (13 points)". The pattern here is that all these issues are about Islamic terror. It does not mean they blame Israel; part of it is likely sympathy for Israel.
57  |  DAVID TEMPLE, AMERICA, Monday Jun 22, 2009
I also is anti am AMERICAN, I see that the great pretender OBAMA is anti-AMERICAN, as well as anti-ISRAEL. I do not support him or his racist wife. His policies lean toward one group of people, muslim. Everything he has done or is trying to do is to harm AMERICANS. Closing GITMO, bring the terrorists to AMERICA. Tell ISRAEL they must share their land. Abortion is fine, gay people together are fine. He has no morals . ISRAEL, I WILL FIGHT IN MY LAND FOR YOU. I AM NOT DECEIVED BY OBAMAS WORDS, NOR SHOULD YOU BE. I AM A CHRISTIAN, YOU ARE NOT ALONE, WHEN YOU SUFFER WE FEEL IT TOO.
58  |  andy-london, Monday Jun 22, 2009
You muslim fanatics will really need to learn true history instead of "kill the jews " "kill the infidels""kill kill kill" Right 1st lesson A for apple not Annihilate B for banana not BOMB C for carrot not Clerics D for dates not destruction S for strawberries not Suicides,T for toys not Terrorism.and so you "poor pallis"should teach your little ones how to PLAY with toys instead of how to kill jews.That's your lovely koran for you .Is that what mohammed taught his 6 year old bride?and you've just passed it on.
59  |  Mike Feldman, Canada, Monday Jun 22, 2009
So far to-day is a good day for the truth. Hopefully the revisionist history lunies will simply run out of gas and find a new place to spew they bs and hatred of all things Jewish. Unfortuneally I doubt it. They're too stupid to simply accept the facts..It would be hard to find another outlet for theitr hatred.
60  |  shellie USA, Monday Jun 22, 2009
I too believe that Americans are angry with the Obama Administration and their say one thing and do another when it concerns Israel. He says "We support Israel" the he tells Israel "No more settlement" He is a naive nobody-that knows nothing of what he speaks.He sat under an anti-Israel pastor for 20 years -really how do you do that and be Pro-Israel? Americans are behind Israel even if our President does not represent that sentiment!!G-d Bless Israel
61  |  dd, Monday Jun 22, 2009
the republicans DO support ISREAL more than the democrats.........then why are the majority of JEWISH people in the US support the democratic party and are REGISTERED democrats and VOTE democrat..........my husband and i will always stand behing ISREAL and we are republicans
62  |  Shawn, United States of America, Monday Jun 22, 2009
I have on numerous occations countered arguments against Israel's right to exist. I believe what the good book says in Genesis 12:3; "And I will bless those who bless you, and the one who curses you I will curse. And in you all families of the earth will be blessed." Obama is taking a weak stand on the security of Israel and I believe it will cause Israel to defend herself against an enemy that our president would rather sit on the sideliines and wait to see how the rest of the world reacts. This is a dangerous game and for myself I believe in the defense of Israel.
63  |  shellie USA, Tuesday Jun 23, 2009
I too believe that Americans are angry with the Obama Administration and their say one thing and do another when it concerns Israel. He says "We support Israel" the he tells Israel "No more settlement" He is a naive nobody-that knows nothing of what he speaks.He sat under an anti-Israel pastor for 20 years -really how do you do that and be Pro-Israel? Americans are behind Israel even if our President does not represent that sentiment!!G-d Bless Israel
64  |  British scholar, Tuesday Jun 23, 2009
andy-london, you Talmudic Jews who learn in your synagogues that non-Jews are animals have no right to speak of Muslims. When compared to Jewish racism, Muslims are a million light years more tolerant. Islam means civilization and culture.. Talmudic Judaism is a cult...a hate-filled cult
65  |  John Reilly USA, Tuesday Jun 23, 2009
Americans really don't follow the situation in Israel or anywhere else. So they have no problem with it because they don't know about it. Also, as Israel is ignoring Obama's dictates regarding the "Settlement" freeze, and has not caved into Obama's pressure, there is no issue there.
66  |  Denise, America, Tuesday Jun 23, 2009
I am an american and I DO CARE!! I just wish my government cared as much as many where I live care. Many of us did not vote for the present 'president' and we will always stand by and for Israel.
67  |  Denise, America, Tuesday Jun 23, 2009
I am an american and I DO CARE!! I just wish my government cared as much as many where I live care. Many of us did not vote for the present 'president' and we will always stand by and for Israel.
68  |  Supportive American, Tuesday Jun 23, 2009
Israel does not need America nor any other country to fight her battles, although some honest support would be a welcome change. Unfortunately that seems to be a rare commodity in the world these days. Support for Israel or honesty. I am a Christian, so I strongly feel that Israel can and will deal with her problems and if at any time it can''t' then G-D will. G-D Bless and keep you.
69  |  Darren White, Tuesday Jun 23, 2009
#46 Mr. al Kahlil is another bigotted Palestinian living in the past. Palestine has been divided by the British into Palestine and Ttransjordan (today called Jordan). Jordan was given to king Abdullah, a Beduin descendant from saudi Arabia. Palestine was declared in the Balfour declaration as the "national Homeland of the Jews." Interestingly, no Palestinian talks about Jordan being formerly Palestine. Much easier to demand that the Jews relinquish land to the Palestinians then demand the Hashemite Beduins of Transjordan leave the other part of Palestine.
70  |  Darren White, Tuesday Jun 23, 2009
#46 Mr. al Kahlil is another bigotted Palestinian living in the past. Palestine has been divided by the British into Palestine and Ttransjordan (today called Jordan). Jordan was given to king Abdullah, a Beduin descendant from saudi Arabia. Palestine was declared in the Balfour declaration as the "national Homeland of the Jews." Interestingly, no Palestinian talks about Jordan being formerly Palestine. Much easier to demand that the Jews relinquish land to the Palestinians then demand the Hashemite Beduins of Transjordan leave the other part of Palestine.
71  |  Mike Feldman, Canada, Tuesday Jun 23, 2009
#64-British "scholer" What does "scholer" mean. Did you graduate from a cooking class? Maybe you know how to salt and boil a pot roast. You are right about the enlightened Muslims. They are so enlightened that they believe that you don't believe what they believe they should kill you. They believe if you don't like the results of an election, make up the results you like. They believe that women have no rights. They believe that if they want your land they should revise history so ignoramouses like you support their false claim. I prefer being ignorant. You revel in your ignorance.
72  |  Mike Feldman, Canada, Tuesday Jun 23, 2009
#46 The easierst, no brainer way to deny the existance of a Jewish state is to say that most of the Jews who live in that state are not really Jews. I think most of the Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza are not really Muslims. They are converts to Islam, originally Jews. Using your logic the territories are really part of the Jewish state and all the Pals should start attending synagogues on a regular basis.
73  |  andy-london, Tuesday Jun 23, 2009
#64 oh so your one of the scholars from the mosques here in london are you?Are you just back from one of your jihad's abroad. Tell me scholar as none of your pals ever could,and you being such a scholar could maybe tell us all .!What happens when you blow up dozens of your OWN people in pakistan, Iraq, turkey ect do they get rewarded with 100's of virgins too,and do your women get 100's of men too.And is that why you dress in nightshirts and slippers to be ready when you go to hell I mean paradise?
74  |  cares1996, Saturday Jun 27, 2009
these stats don`t quite fly we need unbiased media do get anything accurate unfortunately america`s media giants with 1 exeption have been allowed big business to aquire them and push there on agenda hence ge ,cbs,nbc,abc,sad but true .whats newsworthy appears to be what suits them best in there pursuit of more ,more,more.i am concerned with the consequences of this twisted interpretation of journalism. take the money,get crushed,or get out,fair! i think not.greed is merciless
75  |  cares1996, Saturday Jun 27, 2009
these stats don`t quite fly we need unbiased media do get anything accurate unfortunately america`s media giants with 1 exeption have been allowed big business to aquire them and push there on agenda hence ge ,cbs,nbc,abc,sad but true .whats newsworthy appears to be what suits them best in there pursuit of more ,more,more.i am concerned with the consequences of this twisted interpretation of journalism. take the money,get crushed,or get out,fair! i think not.greed is merciless more americns care then is being portrayed .go bibi hold your ground....
76  |  Charles Todd, United States, Friday Nov 06, 2009
This is undeniably a unique time in America. Our narcissistic president really wants to be the New World Order leader, not just leader of the US. His policies are geared to favor muslims as his affection for his Islamic past is obvious. He has surrounded himself with those who view fondly communist ideals. He is not and will never be a friend to Israel ever. Truth be known I guarantee you he despises Israel. America is headed toward disaster. Our media loves our president and liberal idealogies, they have no idea of what unbiased means. Our only hope is for Americans to wake up!