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Wednesday Sep 02, 2009
Rosner's Domain: Netanyahu's pivotal moment?Posted by SHMUEL ROSNER
Comments: 62      Follow Rosner's Domain on Twitter!!! Ben Smith of Politico reports: "Netanyahu's at a pivotal moment," said a senior U.S. official. "Depending on what he decides, he could wind up with a very strong relationship with President Obama and potentially become a historic figure in Israel."
"It could very well hinge on what he decides in the next couple of weeks," said the official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity.
Another senior U.S. official held out a similar carrot for Netanyahu: This moment offers the opportunity to "forge a very important and positive relationship between Netanyahu and the president," the official said.
1 | GV, New Zealand, Wednesday Sep 02, 2009
Yeah, right! He COULD become a "historic figure" for being a sell-out who capitulated to Obama's demands and compromised Israel's security. I really hope Bibi stands firm and tells Obama where to go. Time will tell.
2 | Andras, London, Wednesday Sep 02, 2009
Stomach turning. As if the obvious aim of the PM of Israel should be to establish a good standing for himself vis-a-vis whoever happens to be the President of the US, whatever his policies, irrespective of how detrimental those are to his own country. I very much fear that Netenyahu is going to sell out Israel along those lines, yet to present them as desirable is outrageous. It is a good thing in general if the PM is in good terms with the US President of the day, but not the aim itself. Especially not if the President as the current one is working towards the destruction of Israel.
3 | Chris USA, Wednesday Sep 02, 2009
The only relationship that Bibi needs to forge with Obama is how to rescue the jewish arabs that are being held prisoner by islamic militancy.
4 | Terry - Eilat, Israel, Wednesday Sep 02, 2009
#2 Andras. Stomach turning is a good description, it's absolutely nauseating to think that the PM of Israel should sell out his country to be friends with a fraud & con man, an enemy of his country (actually, an enemy of both countries). You are not alone in fearing a Netanyahu sell-out, I think a lot of people here are very worried about Netanyahu, the typical Israeli politician. Israel has quite a dilemma - we want a good relationship with America, we recognize the importance of American support BUT we also have our own national interests & Obama's policies are NOT in our interest.
5 | Terry - Eilat, Israel, Wednesday Sep 02, 2009
To add to our dilemma, most Israelis, in particular, the Right (in the most general sense), do not want to see the Netanyahu coalition fall apart. Astute politician that he is, Netanyahu knows he can get away with a lot because of this - most of us realize how much worse anyone left of Netanyahu would be & are unwilling to risk another election. Obama's inept handling of the settlement issue greatly strengthened support for Netanyahu. Nonetheless, Netanyahu acts as if he's afraid of the Left, afraid of media criticism that he will be responsible for a deterioration of our relations with the US
6 | Terry - Eilat, Israel, Wednesday Sep 02, 2009
Netanyahu's dilemma, on the other hand, is that you cannot be all things to all people - when you try to please everyone, you end up pleasing no one. Will Netanyahu realize the futility of trying to please an American president with Obama's rather evident ideological bias? Obama's foreign & domestic policies are a big failure - he is eager for some kind of ''success'' & we are the ones to pay for this distraction from his other failures. Israeli interests will be sacrificed for a photo op for Obama. The Narcisist-in-Chief could care less about consequences to us.
7 | Yitzhak Moed, Amsterdam, The Netherlands, Wednesday Sep 02, 2009
Obama's position, as popular as he may be in the U.S., is detrimental to the continuity of Israel. Netanyahu should do everything possible to avoid fallling in his sugar-coated trap
8 | Terry - Eilat, Israel, Wednesday Sep 02, 2009
Netanyahu the politician cannot forget the unscrupulous machinations of the Clinton administration aided & abetted by our equally unscrupulous & basically undemocratic Left with full support from our BS media. These are people who would sacrifice every national interest, every security interest, for political advantage. Personally, I believe popular opinion in Israel is much less susceptible to left-wing propaganda than in the past. I think Netanyahu can stand up to Obama's pressure & it will only strengthen him politically. But so far, his actions do not show that he believes this.
9 | Matt, London, Wednesday Sep 02, 2009
Every problem that Israel has today can be directly attributed to its leaders trying to please foreign powers. Were it not for well-intentioned interference from the "international community", the Israeli government would have legal and military control over Gaza and the West Bank, the Sinai, and possibly Lebanon. Some residents of those areas would be unhappy, but on the whole their lives would be much improved and the UNRWA camps would be gone. All in all the world and the region would be a far better place for it. It's time the West listened to Israel, not the other way round.
10 | Mike Feldman, Canada, Wednesday Sep 02, 2009
Terry- I think the saving grace in all this is that Obama does not have the skills to finesse a position for an extended period of time. He is too eager to assume a fait de compli and make a grand speech. I believe if anything even starts, regarding "peace" talks, the talks will bog down quickly, further strengthening Neyanyahu's hold on power in Israel. The false expectations of a deal will dissapate quickly, and the reality of real events, such as a nuclear Iran will dominate the debate in Israel.
11 | Shel Zahav, Wednesday Sep 02, 2009
If Netanyahu "gives in" to the US President he is a fool and we will boot him out of office post haste. But I doubt that he will fall for the one-term President's belief in the long-dead Oslo peace process.
12 | Terry - Eilat, Israel, Wednesday Sep 02, 2009
The basic question here, by the way, is that Netanyahu was elected by voters with a definite point of view. However flawed & dysfunctional our political system, it is nonetheless a democratic process that reflects the wishes of a majority of Israelis. Now comes the Obama administration & it's team of ''experts'' & pundits who are advocating to a democratically elected PM that he should disregard the opinion of those that voted for him to be Obama's ''friend'' - in other words, to break his promises, to disappoint & defraud the electorate. How very Democratic of them .......
13 | Terry - Eilat, Israel, Wednesday Sep 02, 2009
#10 Mike Feldman. Obama is not interested in substance he is interested in image, appearances. Like other con men, the flim-flam man will pretend achievement, his only skill is in being a good liar. The ''peace process'' was always bogged down since the Palestinians will not accept any compromise, there is no deal they will agree to & even what they agree to, they have no intention of honouring. Almost no one here thinks a deal is possible, even many Leftists have given up all hope - we have no expectations to ''dissipate''. My opinion is that it's a mistake to play this game.
14 | Terry - Eilat, Israel, Wednesday Sep 02, 2009
#10 Mike. Why should Netanyahu hand Obama any kind of success? Will it change Obama's orientation? Will it stop future demands on us? Caving in to Obama will get us nothing in return but it will always cost us something. On the other hand, stonewalling Obama will be pretty popular here in Israel. No matter the Left media bias, Netanyahu is a great speaker & can make a case that cannot be ignored. Internationally, we will take some flack but we get that anyway. And what will Obama do? He can be annoying but even a president has limitations on what he can do to an ally.
15 | daat y, Wednesday Sep 02, 2009
HOW NAIVE ARE WE?
THE MORE NETANYAHU GIVES IN ON THE MORE PRESSURE will Obama FORCE UPON HIM TO GIVE MORE..
WHERE IS THE PRESSURE ON THE ARABS?
16 | Yahya, Wednesday Sep 02, 2009
It is critical that Netanyahu stay on the right path, failure to do so means the destruction of Israel.
17 | Mike Feldman, Canada, Wednesday Sep 02, 2009
I re-read the blog, because earlier I had responded to another poster. The statement attributed to an anonymous sr. U.S. official is typical of the elitist attitude pervasive in the administration. Netanyahu can potentially become "a historic figure in Israel", by getting close to Obama. First of all, I think the lowest level politicians on the Palestinian or Israeli side could dance circles around Obama. Obama let his far left Congress come up with a health care plan, and then assumed because he, in his wisdom, blessed it, Americans would fall all over it. He has no idea how to get CONT
18 | Mike Feldman, Canada, Wednesday Sep 02, 2009
Mike Feldman - CONT - "down and dirty" and put his personal blood, sweat and tears into an issue." He is pre-disposed to think he already has all the answers, when in fact he doesn't have a rudimentary understanding of the issues. Hitler, Mussolini and Franco were "historic" figures. so go figure. I think Netanyahu is at least smart enough not to tie his legacy into a relationship with Barak Obama.
19 | Shel Zahav, Wednesday Sep 02, 2009
Can we limit Terry to 17 posts per day?
20 | Andras, London, Wednesday Sep 02, 2009
Matt- I am pleased to hear such sane voice coming from this not always so sane London.
21 | pm, uk, Wednesday Sep 02, 2009
No 19: Well said! With this Blog, I was beginning to think it was the "Terry, Israel" column!
22 | American, Wednesday Sep 02, 2009
All politicians have tremendous egos. It does no harm to reach out to them in hope that they might want a place in history as a peace maker. But with the likes of voters like Terry who got Netanyahu elected, I think the U.S. is realistically doubtful.
23 | Chaim - Israel, Wednesday Sep 02, 2009
"Forging a positve relationship with Obama" which really means submitting to Obama's viciously anti-Israel policies, is the polar opposite of what Israel intended by electing Netanyahu. Netanyahu's responsibility is to advance Israel's interests, not to exchange pleasantries with the most anti-Israel U.S. president Israel has ever faced. This means uncompromising opposition to the Two State Final Solution, settlement freezes and all the other abominations upon which Obama's policies towards Israel are based.
24 | A real live pagan witch and a true American, Wednesday Sep 02, 2009
Netanyahu is finally in a position to dp what he believes in his heart is the best thing to do....and he shoukl DO IT - regarless of what anyone in my country or anyone else's think. Benjamin, I believe you may be one of the selected few who have the passion to know what is good and what is evil. And evil MUST be eradicated from the face of the earth in spite of political and personal egos serving as parasitic demon channels. I have great hope that you may be someone who actually knows the truth.
25 | Stuart Creque, USA, Wednesday Sep 02, 2009
Note that the quotes are from US officials, who by definition work for Obama. They are laboring under the false assumption that being recognized as Obama's friend is somehow a good thing. That's untrue for any leader of a free Western nation, least of all for the leader of Israel.
I think Netanyahu is smart and seasoned enough to make Obama realize that the US President gains more from being seen as a friend to Israel's Prime Minister than the PM does from being seen as the friend to this particular President.
26 | FireTag, Germantown MD, Wednesday Sep 02, 2009
What's funny is that 4 months ago Obama might have had something to offer. Do those "senior officials" actually notice Obama's approval rating sinking like a rock? At this point, maybe Obama needs Bibi more than Bibi needs Obama. How much is a good relationship with a presidency in crisis likely to be worth?
27 | Mike Feldman, Canada, Wednesday Sep 02, 2009
#19 Shel Zahav. Afraid you'll learn something? you could skip them if you wish.
28 | Sally - U.S.A., Wednesday Sep 02, 2009
Obama must be pretty desperate if he has to bribe Netanyahu with dumb words like Obama will be your friend & you will go down in history like Netanyahu is a 5 year old child. I think I told you that Dennis Ross was sent to Israel to figure out Netanyahu's flaws so that they could twist Israel's arm. Given that Obama talks out of both sides of his mouth, if I were Netanyahu, I would hold on real tight to my wallet, so to speak, when he goes to that UN meeting. I think the Jewish Community should be prepared for Obama to do something real perfidious.
29 | Nechama, USA, Wednesday Sep 02, 2009
Someone should remind obama that just like healthcare is NOT about him, the situation in Israel is NOT about a "pivotal moment" between obama & Netanyahu. Bibi's responsibility is clear - to protect Israel from the islamic terrorist regimes that want to annihilate her. And if that means saying "no", to obama, so be it. The recent fatah conference confirmed they are not yet prepared to make peace; fatah in a rare moment of honesty admitted that their idea of creating a palestinian state is only temporary until they can take over all of palestine - replacing Israel with an islamic calephate.
30 | Hofikoman, Wednesday Sep 02, 2009
How glib are the many posters that believe Bibi needs to stick it to the Obama administration. Does anyone believe that Bibi is not following his political gut in maintaining the longstanding connection between Israeli Prime Ministers and American Presidents? There is the office, and there are the people who fill the office. Classical Jabotinsky Zionist Revisionism insists on respecting the office.
31 | Jules USA, Wednesday Sep 02, 2009
Bibi needs to demonstrate that Israel is willing to trade land for real peace. In the past, the Israeli Right has pushed a hybrid ideology that has advocated West Bank settlement as good security policy and a fulfillment of our Biblical mandate. By amalgamating these two justifications, the Right ignored an important question: what happens if fulfilling what may be a biblical mandate becomes a security/diplomatic/demographic nightmare? By working with the US & Abbas to create workable borders Bibi can allign Likud with both Israel's need for security and Obama (and Israel's) need for peace.
32 | Nevada_len, South Fl, Wednesday Sep 02, 2009
Nothing wrong with Terry's blogging. He has many posts because the Comment box is limited. What he says makes sense. However, do not dispair, as bad a sNetanyahu seems to be at this moment nothing has changed in Israel between the Us and Israel. They are still compleeting the 2500 Units in the Suburbs, and, at least for now Jerusalem will remain ours.
The problem with Israeli Polotics is that once these PoliticiaNS get a job in the Knesset ot Government there is no way they will bring down the Government and chance loosing there jobs. It is an idiotic system. See how long Olmert remained
33 | Nevada_len FL, USA, Wednesday Sep 02, 2009
Part 2. As I was saying see how long Olmert remained in office with an approval rating between 6 and 4. In any other country but the US, his government would have fallen long before he finally left. In the US we keep a President four his term come hell or impeachment.
If Netanyahu crashes one of the major parties should desert such as Leiberman's, and Shas shoukld follow and go to new Elections. The right will probably get a much bigger majority today then they did in the last election because everybody knows what Obama is now.
34 | Mike Feldman, Canada, Wednesday Sep 02, 2009
Seems like Stephen Harper, Gordon Brown, Nicolas Zarcozy, Angela Merkel and Dmitry Medvedev have already passed on getting very close to Obama and becoming historic figures. I think Mahmoud Amedenejad can become a truly historic figure by becoming close to Obama. If not, there must be some leader, somewhere who's looking for a place in history, even if he/she has to get close to Obama to do so. The only one I can think of so far, is Jeremiah Wright.
35 | cares1996, Wednesday Sep 02, 2009
People,this may very well be the most critical time in decades,we best pray for this man.There`s many things going on in many places,and it has been decided that its not in our best intrest to know.All the criticism doesn`t help,does anyone know when appeasement has stopped a maniac,the reality of it is, them jihadists have gotten control of more then one country,this is not a matter for which court proceedings will mean anything,ain`t that right CLOONEY.People`s existance are at stake, potentially many, many,many so lets offer our support not criticism or ideology.
36 | Amnon, the Great AMERICAN Southwest, Thursday Sep 03, 2009
Apparently Rosner and his web minions don't like Obama being referred to as "the chimp" or the word s-bleep used to describe this "senior administration official" but honestly, I am sick to death about hearing that term used. I remember when the Bush I-Baker State Department used the same terms when they were using Dennis Ross to stick it to Israel, and I suppose this is once more the case - except Obama has a few other choices including Ross and the two fruitcakes Emanuel and Axelrod. To me, this is a pretty pompous statement Bibi should advise them to go to hell. Better yet vote GOP in 010.
37 | Amnon, the Great AMERICAN Southwest, Thursday Sep 03, 2009
Beware the General Assembly Meeting next month. The chimp is planning to stick it to Israel there, and will call upon sending troops ala Jimmy Jones' thoughts and the wet dream of the whore who is Jones' senior policy adviser, Samantha Power. Remember, she wanted the USMC to go in to Judea-Samaria. Well, Jones, being supposedly a former Gyrene himself might look at that aschew, but no worries for the chimp and the slut, they'll get the Swedes, the Colombians, the Nicaraguans, the deceitful French, and a few others to pony up their troops to bolster their Hamas friends. All for Peace (Pieces),
38 | JERRY BORIS PHILA USA, Thursday Sep 03, 2009
SO, AN UNNAMED USA GOVT OFFICIAL, IN OBAMA'S CAMP, OBVIOUSLY, WANTS BIBI NETANYAHU TO BECOME A 'HISTORICAL FIGURE' BY PLACATING BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA. THAT IS LIKE DRAWING THE SHORT STICK.
HUSSEIN OBAMA HAS CLEARLY DEFINED HIMSELF BY HIS WORDS AND HIS ACTIONS, AS AN ENEMY OF THE JEWS AND AN ALLY OF THE ARABS WHO HAPPEN TO BE AMERICA'S ENEMIES, EXCEPT THAT THE OIL LINKS HAVE CONFUSED THE ISSUES, AT LEAST FOR SOME.
TYPICAL OF CATERING TO ARAB OIL IS THE LATEST BY GORDON BROWN OF THE ALWAYS HAUGHTY BRITISH SHRUNKEN 'EMPIRE."
NO THANKS, FOLKS. BIBI DECLINES!
39 | bannister USA, Thursday Sep 03, 2009
A double edged Offer, It could be the other end of the dagger too.
Grasp the handle together or get the pointy end in the back.
40 | David W. Lincoln, Edmonton, Alberta, Canada, Thursday Sep 03, 2009
Bibi is a man of consequence and will not trade his birthright for pottage. The script has been written, and those countries which have been irritated by the Oval Office will make sure the dust no longer remains on their feet, and the US will be more isolated.
Just as in 1956, Israel will keep its nerve. But the difference will be the countries mentioned in the paragraph above will keep their nerve, and frankly leave the United States to weaken itself because those whose hands are on the levers of power will never admit they are wrong.
41 | GOLDEN NUGGET Australia, Thursday Sep 03, 2009
#31 Jules USA...you say:- trade land for "real peace"...please define REAL PEACE..and while you are at it...please define what "workable" REAL GUARANTEES will accompany such "real peace"....and
how such a miracle will sit in with Islams SWORN agenda to destroy Judaism Jews and Israel...
42 | GOLDEN NUGGET Australia, Thursday Sep 03, 2009
#31 Jules USA...you say:- trade land for "real peace"...please define REAL PEACE..and while you are at it...please define what "workable" REAL GUARANTEES will accompany such "real peace"....and
how such a miracle will sit in with Islams SWORN agenda to destroy Judaism Jews and Israel...
43 | Jonah in Jamaica, Thursday Sep 03, 2009
Terry keep up your commentary. In respect to the Rosner article it makes one wonder if Obama wants Bibi to be his friend on facebook, or is it more like a pre-teen thing: If you sell out your country I'll be your best friend.
44 | Mostly Moderate - NYC, Thursday Sep 03, 2009
Out of 43 posts here, I think what #9 Matt said is most clear and succinct. Jewish people and Israel look to avoid criticism as much as possible, but had we gone far right back then and laid down the law with less appeasement I'm very confident and certain that both Israel and the Palestinians would all be in a much better place now. But that's passed and over. Now the question is based on that theory how do we move forward at this time.
45 | David C Buxbaum; Guangzhou, China, Thursday Sep 03, 2009
Netanyahu has`a very important decision to make, namely whether he wants to follow a US President who is certainly the least sophisticated and most ignorant President since America's worst President, Carter; or whether he wants to stand up to this media savy nincompoop and protect Isreal and American from Obama's stupidities. While Obama looks wonderful on TV; he is a clear and present danger to the USA and Israel; anyone who follows this pathetic fool is clearly of the same ilk.
46 | John, Pennsylvania, USA, Thursday Sep 03, 2009
Please, Bibi - shun our President - many here in the US are -most no longer approve of him. HE has close advisors just as radical as Hamas and the Iranians. This is unprecedented. He is unqualified on constitutional grounds. If leaders around the world would simply tell the truth about this man, perhaps he could be neutralized. He is far worse than anyone things, because he hates America and has proven it.
He feels the same about Israel - he diverts criticism and attention, but many have caught up with him and see him as the empty suit he is. Help us, please!
47 | Kaytee Stillwater,Minnesota USA., Thursday Sep 03, 2009
Praying from Minnesota,USA that Bibi will be strong in the L-RD and the power of His might against all the pressure the world puts on him to divide Israel further.
48 | Amnon, the Great AMERICAN Southwest, Thursday Sep 03, 2009
I'm surprised markie jeffrey koch isn't here spouting and spreading his usual self-hating, anti-Israel, pro-Chimpie manure, or Tom from Stormfront.Org isn't doing his I Love Schickie bit as well. Hmmm, maybe they caught on that the chimp is going down like a Lead Balloon, and that his arrogance, stupidity and cowardice, now out in the open, is too much for REAL Americans (unlike themselves) to bear.
49 | Chaim - Israel, Thursday Sep 03, 2009
#30 Hofikoman. Nobody is suggesting that Bibi should talk disrespectfully to Obama. The office of the American President should always be respected. Bibi simply needs to say "No" to Obama on the Two State Final Solution, settlement freezes etc. Uncompromisingly but respectfully.
50 | cares1996, Thursday Sep 03, 2009
to#46 Fear not,Bibi is an intelligent principled man,however lord willing the liberal to radical media borders on willfull neglect to criminally negligent.They`ve truly shown the power of the press.This has put millions out of work out of there homes and destroyed many families,it shameful the way the public was deceived, if it were not for blessing of Rupert Murdock we`d still be completely oblivious to the radical agenda being rolled out,at this point American freedom is at stake,turn your channel and never look back.We the people will stop this comrade,get involved freedom isn`t free.
51 | cares1996, Thursday Sep 03, 2009
to#46 Fear not,Bibi is an intelligent principled man,however lord willing the liberal to radical media borders on willfull neglect to criminally negligent.They`ve truly shown the power of the press.This has put millions out of work out of there homes and destroyed many families,it shameful the way the public was deceived, if it were not for blessing of Rupert Murdock we`d still be completely oblivious to the radical agenda being rolled out,at this point American freedom is at stake,turn your channel and never look back.We the people will stop this comrade,get involved freedom isn`t free.
52 | cares1996, Thursday Sep 03, 2009
to#46 600 not enough for this one,At this point,so many eyes are opening there apt to panic,I `ve frequently requested for people to stop supporting the machine,dump your stocks in the corps. that think there taking over,soros,hollywood,and purveyors of insanity will never succeed.I MEAN WHO WOULD SHUT CALIFORNIA`S WATER SUPPLY OFF IN FARM AREA`S IN THE MIDDLE OF A RECESSION,FOR THE SAKE OF SMELT?NO TO CAUSE MORE DAMAGE AND HURT THIS MEAN COUNTRY IS WHAT WAS STATED,NOT ON MOST NETWORKS BUT Rupert had the courage,to report the facts.(he`s the only one sad but true)
53 | Jules USA, Thursday Sep 03, 2009
GOLDEN NUGGET- You asked for definitions and I'll give them to you. Real peace = the Palestinians giving up the "right of return," recognizing Israel's right to exist, and accepting a disarmed state. Israel would give up Arab neighborhoods of J'lem, Gaza, and all of the West Bank except for a few settlement blocs., and would build some sort of railway btw. West Bank and Gaza. This could be garunteed by an int'l force like NATO. If Israel turns out to be unwilling to accept this deal, or a deal like it, she would be chosing land over peace and I would no longer be proud to be a Zionist.
54 | Aharon in Los Angeles, Thursday Sep 03, 2009
I'm not surprised t see the rabidly right wing responses here, people who are wedded to the notion that Obama is an enemy of Israel because he is pushing Israel toward doing what it should have done decades ago, namely freeze settlement construction. Yes, there are rejectionists on the Palestinian side, but Israel's ongoing settlement expansion fuels this extremism. When privately owned Palestinian land is taken for settlement construction is anyone really surprised to see Palestinians becoming frustrated with Israel? In 1993 110,000 settlers, today over 300,000. Ridiculous and time to stop
55 | Aharon in Los Angeles, Thursday Sep 03, 2009
I'm not surprised t see the rabidly right wing responses here, people who are wedded to the notion that Obama is an enemy of Israel because he is pushing Israel toward doing what it should have done decades ago, namely freeze settlement construction. Yes, there are rejectionists on the Palestinian side, but Israel's ongoing settlement expansion fuels this extremism. When privately owned Palestinian land is taken for settlement construction is anyone really surprised to see Palestinians becoming frustrated with Israel? In 1993 110,000 settlers, today over 300,000. Ridiculous and time to stop
56 | Michael in Kenya, Friday Sep 04, 2009
Netanyahu should make sure he lives a unified Jerusalem and never give the arabs a piece of Israel.Forget Obama`s machinations,the arabs need to look for another region to make a state.By the way who are the real Palestinians? any credible student of history will tell them the philistines are long forgotten and were themselves invaders.So the arabs are the marauding usurpers and invaders? may be thats why they have conquered all North Africa and invading southerly(Sudan,Darfur).The leaders of Israel should stand firm and hopefully the current PM Bibi will not give in!
57 | Fabian, Barbados (Caribbean), Friday Sep 04, 2009
Does Pres. Obama really understand that Israel is in a battle for its existence? I think Netanyahu needs to stand firm because to divide the land and give up settlements would be to invite your enemy who vows to eliminate into your very backyard.
58 | GOLDEN NUGGET Australia, Friday Sep 04, 2009
#53 Jules...commendable response BUT you put the onus on Israel to accept such a deal or "a deal like it"..Abbas has made it CRYSTAL clear that he wants ALL of Jerusalem and the "right of return"...as for a disarmed state and an attendant "guarantee" by an "int'l force like NATO" .that's wishful thinking...and NO guarantee can extinguish substantial armed atacks on a "recognised" Israel..
..that is etched in concrete in Islam's Agenda to destroy Jdasm Jews and Israel. That brings us to the
biggest hurdle i.e for Abas to make "PEACE" would be an "automatic" REPUDATION of Islam. SAY
WHAT??
59 | , Friday Sep 04, 2009
#13 - Terri is absolutely correct. How many of their promises have the Palestinians kept? The Palestinians have not and will not honor any of the agreements simply because they are not about peaceful co-existence with Israel; they want to have the whole pie. It seems to me that Pres. Obama is more interested in his image than he is in Israel's safety. He does not seem to have a proper understanding of the background to the conflict nor does he take seriously the threats of Israel's enemies. Does he think that Abbas' expressed wish to see the elimination of Israel is just rhetoric?
60 | George FRANKL, Friday Sep 04, 2009
Not so easy to tell Obama,Mekel,Sarkozi and Brown to go to hell when you need their loans,markets and military co-operation.The problems that Israel faces have no good solutions and therefore instead of seeking to solve the conflicts,the problems and conflicts will need to be managed over time.Israel must seek a modus vivendi with the likes of Obama,Brown,Sakozy and Merkel because they represent the views of the ill informed,uncaring electorates that they represent.
61 | Mike Feldman, Canada,, Friday Sep 04, 2009
#61. If you're riglht, this is Neyanyahu's "pivotal moment". If tensions in the Middle East reach a crisis point, what will the Europeans do? What will the Arabs do? What will Netanyahu do? Kind of like a game of geo-political chicken.
62 | andy-london, Tuesday Sep 08, 2009
#54 hard luck jerusalem stays jewish, so back to bedouin land for the pallis and their bombers.
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