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Rosner's Domain: Netanyahu made the Israeli choice

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This is from an article I wrote for The New Republic following Netanyahu's speech:

Shrewdly, Netanyahu spent the previous couple of days behind the smoke screen of low expectations, sending defense minister Ehud Barak to announce as late as this morning that the speech will be "ambiguous." Thus, when the prime minister actually uttered the magic words, the obvious became momentous for Israelis. "Why didn't he do it three months ago?" was replaced by "He is sensible after all." Israelis, as public opinion polls have proven once and again, do not want to pick a fight with an American president over the two issue about which the Obama administration is making a fuss: settlement freeze and support for a "two-state solution."

It is not because Israelis believe that a two-state solution is possible in the short term, but because Israelis tend to be pragmatic; they know that words are just words.

 Read the full article here.

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1  |  andy-london, Monday Jun 15, 2009
Netanyahu made the right speech to the wrong people.You see when barak [weakling] offered arafat half of jerusalem [" he turned it down,}[ and to show he meant it the suicide cowards were sent in and murdered dozens of people,then he [barak] said "they dont want peace"they want to destroy the state of Israel.So netanyahu was right to offer them their own state MINUS THEIR WEAPONS and lo and behold it's not enough,which shows they need jihad as peace would mean NO PARADISE as without it {NO VIRGINS] and they LIVE for that false illusion.
2  |  Giora Me'ir USA, Monday Jun 15, 2009
Benyamin Nothingnew. A non-viable Palestinian state without East Jerusalem as its capital is not a state.
3  |  Arthur, Monday Jun 15, 2009
Netanyahu is a pathological liar, a prevaricator, a verbal juggler. Peace with this dishonest man can never ever be reached. He seems to be a great believer in apartheid and Jewish Nazism. Otherwise, what state would accept that its borders, border crossings, air space, territorial water, water resources, telecommunications, and foreign relations are controlled by a foreign country? Netanyahu doesnt' want a Palestinian state, he wants Palestinian "townships" and "bantustands" controlled by the Master Race, the Judeo Nazi Race, the Chosenites!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
4  |  moses chibuzor, Monday Jun 15, 2009
Natanyahu is the right candidate for Arabs, a very great speech .He has shown the world that he is truely son of his forefather. USA went and elect man call husseni as president what a shame.
5  |  Shel Zahav in Jerusalem, Monday Jun 15, 2009
Reply to #3, Arthur. Hey, Arthur, if you want to be taken serious and not come across as an anti-Semitic nut, I suggest that you tone down the diatribe and use of terms like Jewish Nazism. Most Arabs and other minorities in Israel live their lives without much government interference, just like the rest of us. Unlike nearly all the states in the Middle East, Arabs have actual voting rights here. They hold property and go to university. You need to get a basic understand of life in israel so that you don't sound like a total ignoramus like Jimmy Carter, America's great failure.
6  |  Mike Feldman, Canada, Monday Jun 15, 2009
I don't know Arthur, but I don't see any lying, prevaricating or veral juggling in Netanyahu"s speech. It was, in fact, very concise and straight forward. Probleim for you is that you don't like the content, so you thinik the correct action is to demonize the speaker. The Palestinians should be grateful. Bibi told it like it is, and now the Palestinians can make their own determination if they want to keep dying for something they will never have, or negotiate a deal which will serve their people. With U.S. pressure, Israel will not get this as the final deal and Bibi knows it.
7  |  R. Green Jerusalem, Monday Jun 15, 2009
Shmuel, In my opinion, the most important part in Netanyahu's speech was the one in which he took Obama to school, to history class specifically. When he said that Israel was NOT established because of the Holocaust, he was referring directly to Obama's Cairo speech.
8  |  nada, Monday Jun 15, 2009
Why do palis need rockets if there is peace? Why should jews give up anything to people who do not recognise their existence? netanyahu exposed the pali fraud skillfully.
9  |  Yakov Yosifovitch, NYC: AL-AQSA Mosque is on Stolen Land!, Monday Jun 15, 2009
Did Not the (wild/lost) "ARABS" turned (Ex-Pagans/Idol worshippers) via Hijacking [OUR, not Their] "ABRAHAM" via "ISMAEL (Because His Mother Hagar was Palistinian? note: NOT SAUDI, not genuine Arab, but LEANTIAN (Secular)) & ESAU excuses invade "GAZA" & "JERUSALEM" around +/- MUHAMMAD [pbuh?] Era ; 500's/600's post C.E/A.D??
10  |  Yacov Yosifovitch :PAKISTAN & Al Aqsa is on Stolen land,Yes?, Monday Jun 15, 2009
ARAB World Must Admitt That ISRAEL was there before 'Al iSLAM' ; before Mr. Muhammad [pbuh?] & (copy Cat Nasionals_) CO., came along! Note: "PAKISTAN" (Buluchistan; 300 ttimes Israel Territory) is opn "STOLEN-LAND" from sweet sweet INDIA :: Thus "Hiijacked-Islamically" (via Religio Excuses) to seperate from HINDU India???? Please Sunni (s) or Shiat(s) ; "Give Back Pakistan(s) to Rightfull Owner [I-N-D-I-A] not ISLAM! Give back Temple of the Mount! Get out of AL- Aqsa! Get Out of JERUSALEM & other Places Al Islam!!
11  |  Yacov Yosifovitch,All we [i] Ye Thouneed is th "TETRA-NEEDs", Monday Jun 15, 2009
Note: Economics = "C H O i C E" or CHOOSE! To-abort etc? Note: The G-D of Israel, G-d of Christianity, G-D of ISLAM, G-D of HINDU, G-D of BUDDHA et al is a "Cosmic-Economist"! Hence: BiRTH is a Miracle; and never ever hath YE, WE [i] US & Thy was borneth in Any SIN/CURSETH story via competing ABRAHAMIC(s) Pre-Apocalyptic Thinkings] nor is there anything wrong with being born ; For escaping life;"BIRTH" as a Suffering Via competing VEDIC Pre-Apocalyptic thinkings! Note: All WE [i] need are the Holyi Cosmic Giveth "TETRA-NEEDS" : 1:FOOD, 2:SHELTER, 3:LOVE, 4:CLOTHES: & keep busy! THAT's "IT"!
12  |  Roland Berger, Monday Jun 15, 2009
Arthur,you are right ! All what Israel wants,and us as Jews,is to to kill arabs,steal their lands,and build on them kosher pizzerias. In fact,we all like the national sport called "shoot the Arab ". It's like a video game,you stay in your living room and watch if any Arab passes on the steet.As soon as we see one,we press two buttons,and bingo ! This game is played twice a week,usually Mondays and Thursdays,except if it falls in a Jewish holidays,in which day we go and pray,banging our heads on the Western Wall.....
13  |  eric, Monday Jun 15, 2009
Many people may think Netanyahu is a stupid puppet of America, but I believe that he is merely stalling - waiting for that happy day when he can deal with President Biden rather than Louis Farrakan's toilet paper holder.
14  |  Ari M., Monday Jun 15, 2009
It always amazes me how many stupid Jew haters there are out there. If you don't want to come off as a total moron, please know your history, and not the made-up stuff posted online.
15  |  Richard Levenberg USA, Monday Jun 15, 2009
Amnon, You lose all credibility and whatever point you are trying to make becomes moot when you refer to the President of the United States as "the chimp". What a classless remark. I certainly hope you are not a Jew because if you are we are from 2 separate peoples. We are supposed to have more intelligence and integrity than that. I love Israel and its people as much as I love the United States. Remember that President Obamma represents Israel's closest friend in a world that wants to destroy it and its Jewish citizens. As a Jewish American who loves Israel I am appalled.
16  |  Amnon, the Great AMERICAN Southwest, Monday Jun 15, 2009
We don't need a "president" Biden either. He's a pompous ignorant windbag and coward who revealed his true colors when he delivered practically word-for-word (he's kind of famous for that) the some infamous "Greater Israel" speech James Baker gave AIPAC at virtually the same time 20 years ago. Biden, the bogus Scrantonian is no friend of Israel, or America, either. It should read: the happy day when he can deal with a Republican President.
17  |  Thadeous H USA, Monday Jun 15, 2009
All the world has to see is watch what kind of life these Muslims live. They love terror! Islam follows this "credo".."kill eveybody, Allah will straighten it out later"! Facts you want facts..today more muslims kill each other than anybody. Never mind only Jews. In Iran today the govt trrops are shooting at the anti- Ahmadinejad election. This is version of Islamic democracy!Thus, is it any wonder that Israel and Bibi N. wants to make sure the violence stops against Israel. In Iraq, Afganistan, and Pakistan..the Islamic terrorists are murdering each other.Go deal with these sick mammzers!
18  |  Pish offen Arthur..USA, Monday Jun 15, 2009
Arthur...it is becasue of sick Jew hating bastards like you that world is cursed! Boy, would I like to meet you at the water cooler!
19  |  Myrna, Canada, Monday Jun 15, 2009
Netanyahu spoke it like it is! If the world wants a two-state solution, then other countries need to accept Israel's right to exist. If they don't, then do they really want peace?? From my vantage point across the sea, I doubt very much the solution is two states. I can't imagine either Hamas nor the current Iranian government will ever accept Israel as a nation. Right now, all the foreign political leaders (you know who they are) who are trying to be the Peace-Maker Hero, are looking like a big empty bag of wind!
20  |  Deborah, Sunny Southern California, Monday Jun 15, 2009
#11...Oh Ammon; I pray this will come to fruition. That Americans would clean up congress and elect REAL Americans that support Isreal, as well, those who can manage with our economic crisis with lucidity. I'm watching Obama on the news right now speaking about Universal Healthcare, don't know how we'll pay for it, but even if it is possible, he has plenty on his plate dealing with our domestic agenda alone. Considering the fact that we are on the precipice of financial melt down, I'm wondering where he gets the time to stick his nose in Israel's internal security affairs?
21  |  Navine, Monday Jun 15, 2009
Netanyahu represents Jewish Nazism in its ugliest form. He is a Kahane with a mastery of pr and verbal juggling that is all. The whoel world must stand against Israel which is the Third Reich of our times.
22  |  history student, Monday Jun 15, 2009
Roland Berger, you don't have to prove it. Your recent gencidal Gestapo-like mass murder in Gaza exposes you to the whole world. You are not only behaving like Nazis. in fact you are the Nazis of our time. When Jews think, behave and act like Nazis, they become Nazis. Just examine posts by fanatical Jewish posters here and examin the depth of their vindictiveness and hatred. It is very much like Germany in 1938
23  |  Fred New York, Monday Jun 15, 2009
What did Bibi say that was wrong? Israel IS the Jewish State. The Arabs always call it that though only when they are angry and want to disparage the Jews (ie, the Zionist Entity). As for being demilitarized, with peace, whom do the Palestinians plan to attack? If Israel, then they should get nothing since the peace treaty is a sham. If Jordan or Egypt, then Israel should not facilitate attacks on nations with whom it is at peace. Many nations like Costa Rica don't have armies and are doing fine. Finally, Arthur, do us all a favor and try not to shoot any security guards today, okay?
24  |  US Oleh in CA who worked the private and public sectors!, Monday Jun 15, 2009
23 History student, don't be a wimp, he was being sarcastic you moron! Bibi was doing his job as "commander-in-chief" and threading the needle for obvious reasons. He protected his people & gave the Arab-Jordanian refugees what they need with sovereignty. The world knows, & dislikes admitting Bibi's just logic regarding security. Over time, when the young populous is educated not to hate & bilateral trade occurs, perhaps the so-called military desire that Abbas postures may recede. Until then, trusting the militant enemy with a military infrastructure is national suicide. The US understands!
25  |  Mike Feldman, Canada, Monday Jun 15, 2009
#23 When I read radical Jewish posts, I immediately see other Jewish posts which are critical of the rads. I have never seen a post from a Muslim or Muslim apologist criticizing his fellow Muslim's ranting. I have read your Nazi, Nazi, Nazi, Nazi posts dozens of times in the last couple of weeks. You should look for some original material. Or a you guys having a contest to see who can use the words Jews and Nazis the most offer in one post? You should try to use the word Gestapo more often, it provides a stronger image than Nazi. Where were you in 1938? Visited any gas chambers lately?
26  |  David - Cleveland, Monday Jun 15, 2009
As if one didn't know already, it's good that Bibi's speech has helped sort out who Israel's friends really are. It should have been obvious to Palestinians that Israel would not voluntarily commit suicide by willingly destroying the Jewish nature of the state, yet Bibi is flayed for stating this obvious fact. It should be equally obvious to Palestinians who really want peace that any "partition" of territory and end to Jewish settlement would be best accomplished by acknowledging that Israel is Jewish and negotiating quickly from there. Palestinians miss another opportunity?
27  |  Iris C, New Hampshire, USA, Monday Jun 15, 2009
God bless Bibi. I believe he is navigating a very difficult path and doing it very well. May God bless the Jewish state of Israel for ever. To Arthur "history student" and others who clearly hate the Jews, what about the rights of almost one million Jews who lived in countries like Syria, Iran, Egypt etc and because of the religious hatred of the Muslims were driven out? What do you think is happening to Christian "Palestinians"? They are being persecuted by their Muslim neighbors simple because they are Christian. To all, read about what Mohammad did when he was alive, total brutality
28  |  Baruch Atta, Baltimore, Monday Jun 15, 2009
Bibi's speech just repeated what the final outcome will be. Demilitarized P. state and full recognition and peace mutually. Undivided Jerusalem under Israeli control, recognied borders and no "right of return" for non-Jews to Israel. Road maps go nowhere. Oh, and the "Tanach is our mandate" (Ben Gurion, 1948). Suicide bombers, missles aint gonna do a thing. Hey Arabs - you know that this is the only agreement possible. You Arabs are wasting your lives and fortune and your CHILDREN by ignoring and denying. Grow up and join the civilized world.
29  |  biglou, Monday Jun 15, 2009
I AGREE WITH REPLY #3&24 .HOW WOULD YOU LIKE TO LIVE NEXT TO A COUNTRY ,WHO THINKS IT`S OK TO TAKE OVER YOUR CITY ,SETTLE ON YOUR LAND ,TAKE AWAY ALL YOUR GUNS AND MILITARY DEFENSES ,PUT UP BLOCKCADES,AND GIVE YOU ZERO RESPECT,REPLYS BY #5,6,8,11,13 &24 YOU DON`T HAVE TO BE JEW HATERS JUST BECAUSE YOU DON`T AGREE WITH YOUR LINE OF THINKING#8 IF YOU WERE AFRAID OF YOUR NEIGHBOR WOULD YOU BY A GUN TO KILL THEM OR PROTECT YOURSELF, COME ON PEOPLE LOOK AT BOTH SIDES OF THE COIN, NOT JUST THE ONE YOU AGREE WITH.? BIGLOU
30  |  Sandy- GA- USA, Monday Jun 15, 2009
Read Psalm 83 to see what will happen to Israel's enemies... Genesis records G-d saying He will "bless those who bless her (Israel )and curse those who curse her." Every one of His promises has been fulfilled and will continue to be..
31  |  roger t America, Monday Jun 15, 2009
history student...if you're a "history student" then your tuchas shits gold bricks! Eveyrone in here knows you hate Jews and Jesus! You are the nazi...those butchers would have hired you at Auschwitz! I'll bet u have a picture of shitler on your wall!
32  |  Esav Benyamin U*S*A, Tuesday Jun 16, 2009
Bibi did good. He got the bad guys so upset they can't think straight -- just read the Jew-haters here. Totally irrational. If all these bigots need an enemy to demonize, let them analyze the Arab/Muslim states. NO civil rights, women legally inferior, No Jews Allowed -- how's that for worse-than-apartheid? Anyway, I don't believe in a Palestinian Arab state carved out of Judea and Samaria, ever. Jordan is Palestine, repatriate them all there. Greater Arabia has room enough for the refugee rabble, millions of whom have no connection to Eretz Yisrael at all.
33  |  tt, Tuesday Jun 16, 2009
"you thinik the correct action is to demonize the speaker." that' a good one. Coming from a people that are the masters at demonization and personal attacks to the extend they call carter, mandela, tutu and obama anti-semites. People who call each other anti-semites if they happen to disagree with each other. i don't know if you are aware of the pure vitrol that is being poured over people like chomsky, finkelstein etc? is that ok then? but calling israeli behavior towards palestinians nazilike is not ok? me thinks somebody is on the wrong side of history here, and it isnt arthur.
34  |  tt, Tuesday Jun 16, 2009
to Shel Zahav: is it true that palestinian arabs married to israeli arabs or their children are not allowed to join their spouses in israel anymore ? is it true that lieberman is proposing transfers etc and that in fact transfers of a fifth of your population is an accepted proposal since the beginning of the founding of israel? as a solution to the arab problem? is it true that arab schools get much less funding than jewish schools within israel? is it true that there was a proposal to ban nabka commemoration recently? akin to banning holocaust commomoration?
35  |  tt, Tuesday Jun 16, 2009
to 26: You are so right with regard to the gestapo analogy. i am sure you know better than anybody what you have to do to intimidate an other people so i take your word for it that israel's behavior in occupied territories (occupied ghetto's) resembles gestapo tactics. Its almost like israel studied the gestapo manuel : house demolitions, economic boycots, population transfers, arab free roads.... i am tired of israelis winning about nazi analogies. If you dont want to be compared to a nazi then don't behave as one. It is completely common sense.
36  |  ps kahn, Tuesday Jun 16, 2009
I do not believe that there will not be peace between Palestinians and Israeli's in my lifetime (a few more decades at the outside). The best Israel can probabliy do is to show that they are willing. To be overly honest with killers who are also inveterate liars strikes me as naive. This is a game of carefully chosen words and feigned willingness on their part, so why not on our part ("We" are the US, Israel, Jews, and all fair minded and informed people). It will never come to action because there is not and never has been a willing partner on the other side.
37  |  ps kahn, Tuesday Jun 16, 2009
I do not believe that there will not be peace between Palestinians and Israeli's in my lifetime (a few more decades at the outside). The best Israel can probabliy do is to show that they are willing. To be overly honest with killers who are also inveterate liars strikes me as naive. This is a game of carefully chosen words and feigned willingness on their part, so why not on our part ("We" are the US, Israel, Jews, and all fair minded and informed people). It will never come to action because there is not and never has been a willing partner on the other side.
38  |  Andrew, USA, Tuesday Jun 16, 2009
Bibi is a peacemaker, thru and thru. The ones who make peace are not the ones who lay down and beg for it, they are the ones whose soldiers die for it, like the Israeli soldiers who sacrificed their lives in Gaza and Lebanon to help make Israel take a stand. And it has. Bibi is the latter day Menachem Begin, and he will go down in history as such. He made the first real move. As the Palestinian Arabs rejected it, they have shown the whole world what they are all about, and that is jihad. What are the Palestinians willing to give up?
39  |  Yuri, Boston, Tuesday Jun 16, 2009
High approval ratings of Netanyahu speech come from the simple fact that he did not bow to US pressure, and instead come up with his vision for the future to Israel as Jewish state,with Jerusalem under Israeli control and demilitarized Palestinian state. Netanyahu's position sounds more thoughtful and what is more important would ensure security of Israel. Hopefully after this speech, US would have to reevaluate her position and come up with the policy suited for both sides.
40  |  factis, Tuesday Jun 16, 2009
Hello to everyone who lives in Israel and loves the G-d of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. You have many friends and supporters in the United States of America. You all are in our Prayers every hour of every day. The Master of The Universe loves Israel and has set His Name in Jerusalem. He will not fail to rise with healing in His wings and recompense for the enemies of His people. Thunder in the distance...
41  |  Deborah D Noble, Tuesday Jun 16, 2009
I support Netanyahu and a lot of Americans like me do also. Obuma is immature and needs to grow up. He is a liar and is glib and unfortunately has a lot of the younger people fooled in the USA. Mr. Netanyahu knows what he is talking about. Every time Israel has agreed to terms to let the Palestinians live in "peace" (how ironic), Hamas starts lobbing rockets over the border. As a matter a fact, they lob rockets every day and it isn't put in the US news and it needs to be. Hamas has NEVER stopped their harassment. Hamas and Hezbollah are unhappy people, instigators and antagonist and liars.
42  |  Esav Benyamin U*S*A, Tuesday Jun 16, 2009
Can anyone here honestly believe the Arabs want peace? Of course not. Some Jews act as if there were a way, but that's wishful thinking. Arab policy has always been to work for the destruction of Israel. Now Bibi comes along and makes it explicit that we can discuss anything at anytime with anyone. But we will not compromise on an existential threat to Israel's place as a Jewish homeland. Since the Arabs don't care what we want and will lie to get their way, I see the situation ending with the non-citizen Arabs being "invited" to go elsewhere.
43  |  Nick, USA, Tuesday Jun 16, 2009
BiBi showed the Palestinians for what they really are " Jew hating liars". And Arthur #3 above is showing his inability to think rationally.
44  |  Englishman, Tuesday Jun 16, 2009
Bibi represents the classical mindset of Zionist fascism. He proved again that Zionism and peace are oxymoron. Besides, which state in the world would allow its borders, border crossings, air space, water resources, telecommuniation systems and international relations to be controlled by another state. Even Hitler didn't make such demands of Germany's neighbors.
45  |  Iris C, New Hampshire, USA, Tuesday Jun 16, 2009
I agree with so many of the posters here who support Israel. Wonderful statement from posters 42-45. To #47, if you really want to see Fascism read the charter of Hamas. To all Americans read the charter of Hamas to see what they really want: http://www.acpr.org.il/resources/hamascharter.html Article 2: Hamas says it is a wing of the Muslim brotherhood, see article 7 since 1936 -- before modern Israel was born. Hamas hates the IDEA of Israel. No matter what Israel does or does not do Hamas will hate Israel. To all in the U.S. please read this charter.
46  |  Iris C, New Hampshire, USA, Tuesday Jun 16, 2009
I am continuing from the last post. Anyone who wants to know the truth about Israel's enemies should read the charter of Hamas http://www.acpr.org.il/resources/hamascharter.html See article 7. To implement the promise of Allah Muslims must fight the Jews and kill them even if the Jews are hiding behind trees and rocks (Hadith Bukhari). Note this "holy" Muslim quote does not say Zionists! To all see article 17: Hamas considers Freemasons and Rotary Clubs as Zionist groups! The Hamas goal of destruction is not limited to Israel. Would America want them as a neighbor? Hamas = fascists.
47  |  Mike Feldman, Canada, Tuesday Jun 16, 2009
Englishman. Way to go go. Was holding my breath to see if you could work the word Hitler into your blog. H didn't make any demands on Germany's neighbours, he just overran them. There might not be a state which would accept the conditions you pointed out, but there is not state abutting Israel. The idea of parity in the set up is a fantasy. tt. Glad you liked the word "gestapo\'n #26. I see you ignored all the other observations in that post .Arthurs blog was a senseless rant which bore no relevance to Bibi's actual speech. Yet you defend it. Your anti-semite list is fairly accurate,
48  |  Desert Eagle, Tuesday Jun 16, 2009
Instead of Tamzin, G'ioria Meir, or Arthur, tt is now using lower case letters. Don't you wish you had the job of being a professional blogger? Israel should hire ten thousand bloggers to start a "grassroots" movement. Netanyahu just told the truth about what the Israeli concensus is about Israel as a Jewish state, the status of Jerusalem, not resettling hostile Arabs, and not setting up the deaths of thousands of people by permitting the advanced militarization of a Palestinian national state. These are the starting points for negotiations. He took back Jerusalem.
49  |  Night Owl, Tuesday Jun 16, 2009
Englishwoman should be writing her friends in Saudi Arabia because they are the ones that will sell out the Palestinians. The Palestinians have been pawns of the larger Arab cause for so long do you think they really believe Saudi Arabia has their interests at heart? Obama and King Fahd will make up their plan. But everyone knows that population translocation does not work. The Gaza pullback was disaster, as Bibi observes. India broke out into war when Muslim/Hindu relocation was underway. It is 60 years too late for population movement. No one wants to fight Israel - with the US around
50  |  Iris C, New Hampshire, USA, Tuesday Jun 16, 2009
To all: regarding my first post of June 16th, for some reason the numbers identifying the posts have changed. May God bless Israel forever. I agree with Desert Eagle, Mike Feldman from Canada and so many who are supporters of Israel. Bibi is courageous, unlike our former President Carter . Israel is dealing with treacherous enemies; remember it is Mohammad who said "War is Deceit". Look at the countries operating under Sharia law today, how their women and other religions are treated. It is appalling. The young people of Iran possibly may be waking up to this.
51  |  Hanoi Paris Hilton, l'Amerique Profonde, Thursday Jun 18, 2009
Yo, Arthur... Are you sure you added enough exclamation your excellent exegis of us Chosen Nazis? C'mon, don't skimp on the essentials! But maybe it wasn't on purpose and the keyboard was just temporarily shorted out by drool? Do please clear that up on your next essential posting here.
52  |  JC Perkins, Friday Jun 19, 2009
To # 15 You must be drinking the liberals kool-aid. No way is Obama for Israel. Read his book "Adacity Of Deceit". You will learn that he is a Muslim and he said in his book if he had to make a choice he would choose the Muslims. Wake up, we can no longer listen to his hum drum and untruths.
53  |  jim young, Redding, ca., Monday Jun 29, 2009
New peace talks are underway, yet the same solution is on the table. Isreal must give back the west bank and Jersalem. There is a simple but yet profond reply for those who propose a two state solution, kiss my ass. Which corner of the mouth will they say Isreal has a right to exsist. Here is a better test for those countries that say they have Isreal's best interest at heart. Isreal should not give back any territory, declare Jerusalem as their capitol and rebuild the temple.If the jews can't have freedom in Isreal then no peace will others bring to the table.Isreal belongs to Isreal
54  |  jim young, Redding, ca., Monday Jun 29, 2009
New peace talks are underway, yet the same solution is on the table. Isreal must give back the west bank and Jersalem. There is a simple but yet profond reply for those who propose a two state solution, kiss my ass. Which corner of the mouth will they say Isreal has a right to exsist. Here is a better test for those countries that say they have Isreal's best interest at heart. Isreal should not give back any territory, declare Jerusalem as their capitol and rebuild the temple.If the jews can't have freedom in Isreal then no peace will others bring to the table.Isreal belongs to Isreal
55  |  jim young, Redding, ca., Monday Jun 29, 2009
New peace talks are underway, yet the same solution is on the table. Isreal must give back the west bank and Jersalem. There is a simple but yet profond reply for those who propose a two state solution, kiss my ass. Which corner of the mouth will they say Isreal has a right to exsist. Here is a better test for those countries that say they have Isreal's best interest at heart. Isreal should not give back any territory, declare Jerusalem as their capitol and rebuild the temple.If the jews can't have freedom in Isreal then no peace will others bring to the table.Isreal belongs to Isreal
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