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Thursday Oct 29, 2009
Rosner's Domain: J Street's support-base problemPosted by SHMUEL ROSNER
Comments: 8      A thoughtful post by Jonathan Chait: My main thought coming out of the J Street conference is that J Street has a huge problem on its hands. It's trying to win political influence and compete with AIPAC to speak for the center of American Jewry on the Middle East. Meanwhile, its most enthusiastic supporters have beliefs that are totally incompatible with this goal. J Street has played a delicate political game, sending different messages to different constituencies, but something is going to have to give. And Goldberg says essentially the same thing: "the group runs the risk of being hijacked by haters of Israel".
1 | Sally - U.S.A., Thursday Oct 29, 2009
It is kind of sad that Chait & Yglesias finally realize that J Street is not pro-Israel. (What took them so long?)
2 | PZ, Thursday Oct 29, 2009
Rosner, I wasnt able to attend but I do suspect Chait overstates the issue here. (As you're obviously aware, Chait is a past critic of J Street, which was why he was invited to the panel.) If indeed some ideological non-Zionists currently self-identify as JStreeters, it's pretty hard to believe they're anything but a minority; more importantly, the ideologues will quickly learn they confusedly joined the wrong group. (A anti-Zionist Israeli might accidentally -- or strategically -- vote for a Zionist party; it neither makes him a Zionist nor changes the party platform.) CONTINUED
3 | PZ, Thursday Oct 29, 2009
Im not so interested in some small group of misinformed ideologues that -- apparently without having read the groups platform joined the wrong group (I suspect these folks will very soon find their way to a more appropriate, non-Zionist home, such as Jewish Voices for Peace an organization that unlike J-Street, is not Zionist.) Of much greater interest is the leftist-leaning but very confused kid who simply has figured out WHAT he thinks yet. THIS is where J-Street becomes important. CONTINUED
4 | PZ, Thursday Oct 29, 2009
THAT kid, who is so unlikely to ever join AIPAC, that kid need an organization like J-Street in order to BECOME a Zionist. This is J-Streets role: opening up the umbrella for a new generation of Israel supporters. For AIPAC machers and other self-interested folks to seek to sabotage this is really, really sad and really, really shortsighted.
5 | Amnon, the Great AMERICAN Southwest, Friday Oct 30, 2009
Hmm, let's see what Judenrat Strasse aka J Street's REAL support base is: One, funding from the collaborator Soros, and also from Hamas supporters and U.S. Saudi Agents. Two, the weasel core of JINO Democrats in Congress like Giffords, Cohen, Grayson, Wexler, and others who clearly prefer their Bonzo and his stick it to Israel policies. Finally, as evidenced by Jimmy Jones, Soros hack Steve Clemons, and Chuck Hagel, dolts of the Jim Baker RINO school of moral retards who love totalitarian regimes but hate of Israel. J Street, no pro-Israel, but as their supporters prove, pro-Hamas.
6 | Tom, US, Saturday Oct 31, 2009
As much as the psychopathic, paranoid schizophrenic element of the jewish community would like for J-Street to implode, they are doing very well considering the short period of time that they have been in existence. That portion of the jewish community that doesn't suffer from extreme paranoid delusions are gradually flocking to J-Street. It takes time, but patience, because as time passes and more AIPAC espionage upon the people of the US comes to light, J-Street will appear to be the ONLY rational and sound lobby group for the future of Israel and the jewish people.
7 | Rosner Reader, Los Angeles, Sunday Nov 01, 2009
In case no one noticed, Hillary Clinton waived the Obama administration's white flag this weekend. The message is that it will be business as usual and there will be no measurable distance between the U.S. and Israel. In other words, Israel has lost its best and, perhaps, last best chance for an honest broker to build a lasting accommodation in the Middle East. Israel wins, but will undoubtedly find this a pyrrhic victory. Oh, yeah, there is really no more need for J-Street to exist. AIPAC wins, as usual.
8 | Mike Feldman, Canada, Tuesday Nov 03, 2009
#7. I didn't quite get your post until I re-read the header. "Los Angeles", aka the left coast. What "measurable distance" between the U.S. and Israel do you feel would be useful in bringing Fatah and Hamas to the table for meaningful discussions starting with the recognition of Israel's right to exist? Are you also saying that J-Street serves Israel's best interests by opposing Israel's policies? i.e. J-Street knows better what's for Israel than Israel does.
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