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Thursday Oct 29, 2009
Rosner's Domain: Is Russia playing Obama too?Posted by SHMUEL ROSNER
Comments: 32      Kagan writes: So now comes the test. Russia joined France, the United States and ElBaradei in agreeing to the proposal on Iran's low-enriched uranium. Iran is now rejecting that proposal. If the administration's engagement strategy is working, then Moscow should come through by joining in sanctions. If, on the other hand, Moscow declares that Iran's counterproposal is satisfactory, or calls for further weeks or months of negotiations, then we will know that Russia, too, is playing Obama. Here again, Obama will have to show whether he is someone whom other powers have to take seriously, or if he is an easy mark in a geopolitical con game. If Moscow continues to act as Iran's facilitator, then doesn't Obama need to make clear that, just as cooperation brings rewards, noncooperation will have consequences?
1 | Sally - U.S.A., Thursday Oct 29, 2009
Of course Russia is playing Obama too. Every single commentator, except those individuals who thought beyond belief that someone who has obsolutely no experience what-so-ever in national governing, foreign policy, etc... would know how to deal with foreign policy, has been saying that Obama does not know what he is doing & this would result. If a president is only going to listen to his own narrative & does not have the experience or knowlege to see what works, he is going to have a mess on his hands. China, Saudia Arabia, etc... are playing him too.
2 | andy-london, Thursday Oct 29, 2009
He's the wimp president in power,falling over himself to appease all america's enemies.Russia and china must be having a field day playing him.He cant take any negative reporting [look at the way he downsized fox news because of the acorn scandal and denied he had anything to do with them,which was a blatent lie of course] A real statesman takes all negative reporting about them in their stride and gets on with the job,unfortunately all this one does is appear on tv shows promoting HIMSELF.
3 | Mike Feldman, Canada, Thursday Oct 29, 2009
The post says "if the administration's engagement strategy is working". The administration has no strategy. The centrifuges are spinning as we blog, and not an ounce of uranium has been shipped out of Iran. Russia, China, and to some degree France are not even in favour of biting sanctions. Iran is playing what should have been a losing hand, masterfully, and the US administration is getting nothing. Obama would need a total makeover to become someone that other powers have to take seriously. They don't even need to "play" him, his personality is such that he plays himself.
4 | Daran, UK, Friday Oct 30, 2009
My view is that Obama is doing the playing here, As Rosner point out, Russian intentions are brought out by the actions of Iran in the coming weeks and months, If the Iranians choose the "meltdown" option and fail to satisfy international community that their nuclear materials are verifiable and entirely peaceful in their nature. Then should the Russians and others fail to back root and branch sanctions (which should be painful ones, "cruel to be kind" toward the Iranian people) a military option by as broad a coalition that can be established will unfortunately become a likely necessity.
5 | Jonathan-Liberated Jewish Homeland, Friday Oct 30, 2009
Obama, OTOH, is playing Rosner
6 | American Paradise LOST, Saturday Oct 31, 2009
Obama is pushover. ANY nation can use him. He has turned our once mighty nation into a world joke in
particular in the coffee dens of the ME. He is bringing America to its knees.
7 | OBINNA CHIME LAGOS NIGERIA, Saturday Oct 31, 2009
The Russians are snakes in green grass they cant and should not be trusted. for now it can not be assertain if they are playin Obama until a new ronud of sanctions is passed but certinily the are anit WEST . i suggest that the Obama adminisitration should see hand writing on the wall so as not to fratanise with anit AMERICA and anti WEST. Is franc.e developing cold feet in passing new round of sanctions aganist the ISLAMIST FUNDAMENTALIS IRAN? hope they re not cause they cant serve two masters .Lastly i hope OBAMA knows America is a super power that must not be toiled with.
8 | OBINNA CHIME LAGOS NIGERIA, Saturday Oct 31, 2009
The Russians are snakes in green grass they cant and should not be trusted. for now it can not be assertain if they are playin Obama until a new ronud of sanctions is passed but certinily the are anit WEST . i suggest that the Obama adminisitration should see hand writing on the wall so as not to fratanise with anit AMERICA and anti WEST. Is franc.e developing cold feet in passing new round of sanctions aganist the ISLAMIST FUNDAMENTALIS IRAN? hope they re not cause they cant serve two masters .Lastly i hope OBAMA knows America is a super power that must not be toiled with.
9 | Pilgrim father USA, Sunday Nov 01, 2009
lets lay it on the line,our muslim president has degraded and disgraced his office. Lets put it this way: Like
a world stage public bathroom he can be used by ALL.
10 | Pilgrim father USA, Sunday Nov 01, 2009
lets lay it on the line,our muslim president has degraded and disgraced his office. Lets put it this way: Like
a world stage public bathroom he can be used by ALL.
11 | Tom, US, Sunday Nov 01, 2009
Why sanctions on Iran ? Iran is in violation of absolutely NOTHING, unlike Israel which holds the world record for violation of international law as well as being a rogue state, the same as N Korea regarding the NPT. If any country should have sanctions imposed, surely Israel is at the very front of the line.
12 | Daran, UK, Sunday Nov 01, 2009
Tom I thought you had already conceded that Iran sort nuclear materials and components outside the IAEA (in another blog). That some of those components which they received and acted upon related to nuclear weapons. Building implosion experiment apparatus and specialst copper wire fuses and so on. Is the position of many outside Iran (but not you Tom?), why does not Iran seek to dispel these concerns with full and verifiable submissions to the IAEA . Such questions need answers despite wether you think Iran has done anything wrong, without such submissions we can only "guess" at Iranian intent
13 | Mike Feldman, Canada, Sunday Nov 01, 2009
Wrong again Tom. As a signatory to the NPT, Iran is in violation of what it signed on for. Israel is not an NPT signatory, therefore it cannot be in violation of a treaty it is not a party to. Iran is the world's premier state sponsor of terror, and is being more and more universally heralded as the pre-eminent rogue state. I hope you're not holding your breath for sanctions on Israel instead of Iran. However, I think the nuclear reactors in Iran will go ka-boom before we see any sanctions.
14 | Daran, UK, Sunday Nov 01, 2009
Mike, I wanted bring up something regarding Israeli alone strike option, which I have posted many times advocating against, chiefly because I consider the mission too large for Israeli capabilities, missiles sites as well as nuclear sites. Dodgy refueling options and so on.. So I was intrigued by the French FM's recent remarks about such an Israeli option, not being French, I find it hard to pin down his meaning. Was his implication that a strike was move favorable option than sanction because only the Iranian people would suffer effects, Or perhaps that he had assurances that Israel cont.
15 | Daran, UK, Sunday Nov 01, 2009
Cont. would not strike (while talks take place) . This follows hard on the heels of French military CoS visit to Israel. I always thought that the Iranian bomb was more concerned about Saudi than Israel, the horrific truth is that other WMD 's suit their puposes better than nukes as far as Israel is concerned. Such weapons would leave the "holy" sites unscathed. So I wonder about saudi tacit support with airspace and use of French Dhafra air base.
16 | Mike Feldman, Canada, Sunday Nov 01, 2009
Daran. I think Bibi, for once, is doing a great job of either keeping his mouth shut, or creating a diversion while co-ordinating with other countries in the enemy of my enemy is my friend camp. This could also explain Saudi Arabia's sharp language towards Israel for public consumption. If I recall, I think the French FM's implication was that sanctions would create more hardships for the Iranian citizens that for the ruling class, whereas military action would be aimed at the facilities and those who protect them.
17 | Daran, UK, Sunday Nov 01, 2009
in #14 I meant, that only the Iranian people would suffer by the sanctions, not regime or the nuclear program.
18 | an eye for an eye, Monday Nov 02, 2009
#15 Daran If you think other WMD by Iran will leave the "holy" sites "unscathed" think again. Other Iranian WMD begets other Israeli WMD. Any destruction of Jewish "holy" sites will beget destruction of Islamist
"holy" sites.
19 | an eye for an eye, Monday Nov 02, 2009
#15 Daran If you think other WMD by Iran will leave the "holy" sites "unscathed" think again. Other Iranian WMD begets other Israeli WMD. Any destruction of Jewish "holy" sites will beget destruction of Islamist
"holy" sites.
20 | Tom, US, Monday Nov 02, 2009
Iran has violated no portion of the NPT. Their uranium enrichment is only to the energy grade which is within the NPT and they have NO nuclear weapons program. Completely within the guidelines of the NPT.
Israel on the other hand is a rogue state just the same as is N Korea and if sanctions should be put in to place, considering all of the other violations of international law, Israel is definitely at the front of the list for sanctions.
21 | Tom, US, Monday Nov 02, 2009
Obviously Feldman never read the NPT if he thinks that Iran is in violation in any way. I listened to Ritter explain the NPT in detail once and he went through point by point regarding Iran. Iran isn't even close to being in violation of the NPT. To take it even further than that, Iran doesn't even need nukes to level Israel. There is NO shortage of conventional missiles with regular warheads that can easily reach Israel. I guarantee you that every single one of those missiles will be flying toward Israel in the event that Iran is attacked. NO missile shield will stop ALL of them, LOL.
22 | retired Israeli special forces, Monday Nov 02, 2009
#21 Tom, and there is NO shortage of Israeli RESOLVE and NO number of Iranian missiles will save it from extinction. And I guarantee YOU that if even a PART of Israel goes the WHOLE of Iran goes.
23 | Mike Feldman, Canada, Monday Nov 02, 2009
#20 and #21. Wrong and wrong. You're playing word games with the current level of uranium enrichment wherein you twist competence with intention. The issue is the nukes the Iranians would pass on to their surrogates (like the other tools of destruction they so generously share) that don't require a delivery system. You and Ajad together are very brave on behalf of the Iranians.
24 | Musician, Tuesday Nov 03, 2009
Russia is playing the Russian balalaika,Obama is dancing to his tune. And Tom? well this Jew hating idiot bum kisser of Islam is singing soprano and romancing himself about nukes and missiles and the destruction of Israel.
25 | Eddie Gin USA, Tuesday Nov 03, 2009
Russia is hoping the whole middle east goes up in Flames, guess where the world has to get their OIL. HELLO sycophants...good old mother RUSSIA. HELLO.....THE people in the USA has no stomach for war anymore, especially now that we voted in Berry soetoro....ahhahahahahhahahah
26 | Simon - USA, Wednesday Nov 04, 2009
Of course they do. As far as Russia is concerned, Israel is not a top problem. The strategic parity with USA is. Iran is a preasure point for USA politics. Russia knows that Israel is internal political question for USA. So nothing will be done BEFORE Russia is happy. Problem is, after so long sneaking on Russia's lands, and attempt to tople the Russian government, and take over the oil she trusts nothing to USA or Israel. So making them happy will be a difficult thing. Russia will not let Iranian regime change. However, Russia can moderate Iran, that is as far as it goes.
27 | Tom, US, Thursday Nov 05, 2009
22 | retired Israeli special forces - Thank you for making my point. Iran is dealing with a bunch of psychopathic as well as paranoid schizophrenics. Regardless of the fact that they have NOT violated the NPT in any way, Israel is resolved to attack them regardless of whether or not they have a nuclear weapons program. So in essence you are only giving Iran one option, to develop nuclear weapons regardless. I also understand from communications with people in Israel's defense industry that Israel has designated 1/3 rd of their nukes to destroying life on earth. So expect to be nuked.
28 | retired israeli special forces, Thursday Nov 05, 2009
#27 Tom I have noted your responses to blogs have been selective and you are true to your cunning
reptutation in this instance. I spoke of "if" i.e. "in the event that". I stand by my view that if Israel is to be destroyed not only but ALSO its destroyer and all those ( in law referred to as accessories) who had aided and abetted in its destruction will in turn be destroyed by ANY means available. As rabid Jew hater
you and your Islamist masters should understand Israel will be there when Islam is sand banished to its sandy roots and no longer a pox on humanity.
29 | Sonny USA, Thursday Nov 05, 2009
The qualifications required for the office of President as I see read the constitution is: 1) The individual has to have a born in the US. 2) Must have obtained the age of 45. But the political elitists persist that there must be farther qualification placed on the office seeker. This has led to selection, making the election just a formality. As a result the international situation is at its worst point in history. It seems that the more qualified the President the worst the out comes. What ever happened to common sense, integrity, faith and a set of values that reflect the inter person.
30 | MELODY USA, Friday Nov 06, 2009
YES ALL THESE COUNTRIES ARE PLAYING USA.OBAMA WANTS PEACE,BUT THE WORLD DOESNT.I AM A CHRISTIAN AND VERY PRO-LIFE,I BELIEVE IN THE BIBLE.I BELIEVE IN ISRAEL!,I PRAY PRESIDENT OBAMA SEES THE TRUTH.USA IS IN SEOROUS TROUBLE.PEOPLE HATE USA.PLEASE DONT COUNT US OUT CHRISTAINS.WE DONT BELIEVE EVERYTHING OUR GOV IS DOING.I WANT PEACE,BUT AT WHAT CAUSE.I BELIEVE WE ARE IN THE LAST DAYS.ONLY GOD AND JESUS CAN HELP US NOW.THE WORLD NEEDS TO GET ON THEIR FACE AND BEG FORGIVENESS.TIME IS SHORT,THE SIGNS ARE HERE.JERUSALEM MUST NEVER BE SPLIT.I AM WORRIED ABOUT IRAN,RUSSIA,CHINA AND OTHERS.WAKE UP WORLD
31 | MELODY USA, Saturday Nov 07, 2009
amen,thank you for putting up what i have said.our gov here in usa is falling apart.i am consevitive,i believe in the bible and g-d only!i, believe in israel,i stand with you.dont get me wrong,i love usa,i just like what our gov is doing.i was dem i am going rep.i dont understand the leberals.our president is going liberal to please the world.we need to back to the bible.det.tells us how to run a gov.i am proud of your prime minister.by standing firm on jerusalem not to split it.i also belirve you should be able to build homes for people.i wish everyone just got along and lived together in luv
32 | Mike Feldman Canada, Monday Nov 09, 2009
#28 retired israeli special forces and #27 the delusions of grandeur in his own mind Tom. #28. You take Tom too seriously. Tom has no Islamist masters, they would not have him. He is merely an ignorant, low life, manga cake Jew hater. The Muslims would not have him. Commander Tom beeming back to earth from space - you have contacts in Israel's defense department? Israel has designated 1/3 of its nukes to destroy life on earth? Tom, I'm wondering if you blog in a diaper. With a brain as disfunctional and dilusional as yours, I can't believe you are actually house trained.
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