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Wednesday Jul 22, 2009
Rosner's Domain: Election 2010: endangered Jewish DemocratsPosted by SHMUEL ROSNER
Comments: 96      Follow Rosner's Domain on Twitter!!! Counting Jews - again (for those unfamiliar with this twisted habit of mine, read here). There are 42 House Democrats that "party leaders are providing with extra financial and logistical support ahead of the 2010 elections". Known as "Frontline Democrats" - and four of them are Jewish. John Adler of NJ. Gabrielle Giffords of AZ. Steve Kagen of WI. Alan Grayson of FL. The last two seem to be in need of more cash ("the Frontline Democrats with the lowest cash-on-hand totals are Alan Grayson of Florida"), the first two seem quite ready, money wise, for the big fight ("The average Frontline Democrat raised $555,000 in the first half of 2009, led by Adler's $983,000"). By the way, three out of the four are listed as "likely D" by the Cook Report, and Grayson is tagged "lead D". So there's no need for panic. And an update: A new Quinnipiac poll in Pennsylvania finds Sen. Arlen Specter's (D-PA) lead over challenger Pat Toomey (R) has disappeared.
1 | Mike Feldman, Canada, Wednesday Jul 22, 2009
Democrats in Congress are starting to worry about 2010, and it has very little to do with U.S. policy towards Israel..The Dems just rammed through a highly unpopular cap and trade program while Hilary Clinton is apologizing for America's carbon footprint in India. India says no thanks to emission contols-"check back with us when we're rich like you" This bill will increase energy costs for all Americans while Geitner's buddies at Goldman Sachs who just finished short selling stocks are now buying up carbon futures and getting richer. Now the Dems are trying to push universal health care COND
2 | Mike Feldman, Canada, Wednesday Jul 22, 2009
CONT with no explanation of how it will be paid for or how the same number of doctors can service 20 million more patients. Support has dropped like a stone. Blue dog Democrats are revolting. So I think the Obama administrations dealing with Israel is the least of the problems Democrats will face when seeking re-election. This is a stunning change in the last couple of months. As I said in aother post, it will only motivate Israel to wait for an administratiojn they feel they can do business with.
3 | american, Thursday Jul 23, 2009
Jewish loyalty is to Israel. Joining the democrats or the republicans depends on the extent to which they support Israel. No principles are involved.
See, Democratic senator Lieberman, he was more of a neocon than the necons....
4 | Terry - Eilat, Israel, Thursday Jul 23, 2009
#1/2 Mike. A sad admission on my part, but I would rather vote for an Evangelical Christian than a Jewish Democrat. While I'm not very ''socially conservative'', I trust them more on foreign policy, especially towards Israel. You are right though, Obama's job approval rating is dropping, some say the health care mess will be his Waterloo. In any case, a tipping point will come precipitated by something, some event, some scandal, some incredible faux pas - and then it will be a rout. I think simple over-exposure is making people sick of Obama, the BS is showing through the facade.
5 | Mike Feldman, Canada, Thursday Jul 23, 2009
Terry-I agree with you, and I'm not sad about it. Evangelical Chrfistians embrace the Judeo-Christian tradition and have a different attitude toward Jews, let alone Israel. Aslo I would descrfibe myself as somewhat socially lliberal, but conservative on foreign policy. Ameriican. Joe Leiberman is a total exception, and is, in fact an independant. He was tossed by the Democrats. Also i know, you know, he supported John McCain, largely because of foreign policy.
6 | Mark Jeffery Koch Cherry Hill, New Jersey USA, Thursday Jul 23, 2009
I live in New Jersey/Pa and the reasons John Adler and Arlen Spector are losing support has nothing to do with Israel or Obama. Arlen Spector was a lifelong Republican with a reputation for changing his positions at the drop of a hat and when the polls showed him losing a Republican primary he switched his party to Democrat. People in Pennsylvania see thru him and want a change from a man of eighty who has been Senator for too long. John Adler is looked upon as not being effective. As for Terry and his inane "Israel purity" tests EVERY Jew in Congress is 100% Pro-Israel. Check your facts.
7 | ina-scotland, Thursday Jul 23, 2009
I cant understand the so called AMERICAN jews voting in such numbers for the democrats as I would have thought the republican party {which has a greater affinity with the state of Israel ] would have been the obvious choice.Yes I agree the evangelical christians are mostly all in favour of supporting Israel as their would be NO christianity without Judeoism,Also I cant understand any Israeli voting for far left parties which would capitulate to the outrageous demands for Israel to give up half of their country for appeasement ..Dont you believe in The God Of Israel ?
8 | Kasey - Ra'anana, Israel (formerly Arlington, VA), Thursday Jul 23, 2009
Check out the Republican Jewish Coalition
www.rjchq.org
There are more republican Jews than you realize...and they are very active.
9 | Douglas, Wilton, CT, Thursday Jul 23, 2009
As a Jewish Republican, I sincerely hope these four Jewish Democratic congressmen lose their seats in the next election. I remain amazed at how many Jews voted for President Obama in the last election. Talk about liberal guilt! There is no other explanation.
10 | Dan, Thursday Jul 23, 2009
Rosner, the careful analysis of religious affiliation in tracking elected officials is bizarre. So just what is the loyalty of Jewish Americans to? Should they vote to support their own country, or is it to advance their own ethnic group? Is it to advance the policies of Likud? Is it to drive an agenda against Christians? I think you are promulgating an insidious agenda that will end American support for diversity. Are Jews supposed to vote for Jews? Is that it? And each religious group to follow suit?
11 | Not Jewish, Thursday Jul 23, 2009
I will help vote out all Democrats in the 2010 mid-term US elections and that includes any Jewish Democrats. These American Jewish Democrat politicians are nothing more than rubber stamps for Barack Obama's nonsense and they are complicit in Obama's hostilities against Israel. American Jews voted to put hell on Israel and America by voting for this pro-Muslim, Marxist tyrant.
12 | Mark Jeffery Koch Cherry Hill, New Jersey USA, Thursday Jul 23, 2009
#2 Comment that Israel will wait for an administration they feel they can do business with. Well, Israel will be waiting for a very long time. Despite your claims Obama has an approval rating of 62% and this year will get a healthcare bill passed. The American people want this and they like Obama a lot. Like every new President opinion polls go up and down but he is fixing the economy. EVERY poll shows the American people love Obama. He will fix the economy, enact a form of universal health care, and despite the crazies who want the status quo, will move the Israeli peace process forward.
13 | Mike Feldman, Canada, Thursday Jul 23, 2009
Mark Jeffery Koch. I'll give you one thing, you're a true believer. If you're looking at a 62% approval rating, you're reading old newspapers. In a Quinipiac poll in Ohio, he was under 50%. Support for the heallth care reform is at 44% and opposition is at 50% and growing as there is more disclosure. He:s doing a great job on the economy. Only 554,000 more job loses last month, and unemployment nearing 10%. He doesn't have a peace partner on either side, so if he moves the peace process forward, I'll call it a miracle. Besides what does "will move the Israeli peace process forward' mean?
14 | Sally - Florida, U.S.A., Thursday Jul 23, 2009
I wish to point out to Mr. Rosner Ms. Delee's article in the JPost "Obama means what he says about settlements," which I interpret as a threat by the writter against Israel. This "threat" combined with Mr. Obama's "bait & switch" of promising one thing to get American Jewish votes and doing something else as president, his Cairo Speech, his ignoring past US - Israeli agreements (See Olmert's article in the Wash. Post) & his abysmal record on Human Right, has many of us in the American Jewish community are saying: we will vote out these Democrats and we mean what we say.
15 | Catholic, Thursday Jul 23, 2009
If the God of Israel condones genocide and ethnic cleansing and oppression, I don't believe in him.
The true God is God of justice, mercy, compassion.
As to Christian evangelicals, they have a split personality.
On the one hand they preaching love and Jesus, but at the same time they support wholeheartedly manifestly barbaric acts that are incompatible with everything Jesus taught and preached.
16 | Amnon, the Great AMERICAN Southwest, Thursday Jul 23, 2009
I have already contacted over a dozen Jewish Democrats in both the Senate and Congress, including the hilarious Missy Giffords, who claims proudly that she is both a "Jewess" and a "Cowgirl" when in fact she is neither. I've also contacted Gary Ackerman, Nadler, the obnoxious Wexler, Henry Waxman, Schumer, Boxer, and others with this bottom line.
Either you are for Israel, the right of Jews, for a strong America, or you are for Obama, his Israel-baiting, Appeasement of Islamoterrorism, and your party. You can no longer have it both ways anymore. You go Obama, I will actively oppose you.
17 | Sally - Florida, U.S.A., Thursday Jul 23, 2009
I wish to point out one other thing. Mr. Obama worked behind the scenes to see to it that Rep. Steven Israel of New York (a very strong supporter of Israel) did not run for the Democratic nomination for Senator of Ms. Clinton's old seat in this upcoming election.
18 | Yaakov Zelig -Israel, Thursday Jul 23, 2009
The Torah say's, that a Jew should not seek higher office in a gentile country.
In view of how the majority of the forty-two Jew's in Congress, support Israel, currently, I now understand the Torah Law. It would be better for Israel, if most of these Jew's were replaced by gentiles, who appreciate the State of Israel and what it takes for a non Moslem nation to survive in the Mid East.
19 | Mike Feldman, Canada, Thursday Jul 23, 2009
Catholic. False premises lead to false conclusions. Israel does not condone genocide and ethnic cleansing, so what their G-d condones is not relevant to your post. Further, it would be erroneous to assume that defending your country against Hamas and Hizbullah are religious wars. Their aggression is not based on religious ideology, nor is the Israeli response. One could hardy say that the Allies response to Hitler was a matter of Chrisitians turning against Christians. Nor could one say that no civilians were killed when Berlin was bombed.
20 | Mark Jeffery Koch Cherry Hill, New Jersey USA, Thursday Jul 23, 2009
#13 Every opinion poll has Obama around 60% in the polls while individual polls about health care may be lower thanks to Republican scare tactics. He was inaugurated in late January and NO ONE can turn the economy around in six months from the mess he inherited. He is attacked for asking Israel to stop building settlements and to abide by the road map. To you folks it's always the other side that is 100% wrong and there will never be peace if you believe that. The Arabs and Israelis love to blame each other for all their problems. When you can stop dehumanizing EACH OTHER peace will come.
21 | Mark Jeffery Koch Cherry Hill, New Jersey USA, Thursday Jul 23, 2009
#18. Please do not cast dispersions about the Jews in Congress. Without their help and organizations like AIPAC Israel would not have the billions in economic aid as well as the planes, tanks, and guns they use to defend themselves. You would have a LOT more problems surviving in the Middle East without your Jewish friends in Congress. The President and the first lady's chief of staffs are Jews as are a number of their close advisors. One can disagree with the policies of your government without being a self hater or anti Israel. Stop hating Obama for wanting Israel to take steps for peace.
22 | Isa Ten, USA, Thursday Jul 23, 2009
Most American Jews are not religious. They are secular and lost their connection to Jewish people in all but name. That's why they are so supportive of leftist causes in detriment to the real Jews in US, Israel and all over the world.
23 | Chaim - Israel, Thursday Jul 23, 2009
It is way past time for U.S. Jews to end their pathetic, abusive relationship with the Democrats. Jews foolishly shower the Democrats with votes and money. Democrats respond by attacking Israel and our vital interests. Let's end this perversion now. We have far more true friends among Republicans than Democrats. Let's acknowledge and act on this fact. When the Jewish Press conducted a study on the most pro-Israel U.S. media personalities, there wasn't a recognizeable liberal to be found. Conservatives like Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity dominated the list.
24 | Mike Feldman, Canada, Thursday Jul 23, 2009
Sally. To add to your point. Mark Jeffery in his reverie for Barak Obama neglects to mention that when Obama was a Senator and the Republicans brought forth a bill for health care reform, he voted against it. Now its urgent. Obama blamed the Republicans for the economy as recently as in his speech last nite.. However, Dems have been in control of the House since 2006. Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae with their ludicrous lending policies were Democratic initiatiaves. Barnie Frank ain't no Republican. (mind you, I think he's Jewish). Dan. You've called Jews an ethnic group and a religious group. Make up your mind
25 | Shel Zahav in Jerusalem, Thursday Jul 23, 2009
Like many who have written here, I think that Americans must vote out Democrats. Their ethnicity is irrelevant.
26 | Jew, Thursday Jul 23, 2009
I hope they all will lose their seats. I preffer evangelist christians over left-wing "jews"
27 | Mike Feldman, Canada, Thursday Jul 23, 2009
Mark. What do you say when Hamas sends rockets into Israeli towns? What did you say when Hizbullah kidnapped and murdered the IDF patrol that was INSIDE Israel?
28 | Julie -U.S., Thursday Jul 23, 2009
The elections in the future will be decided on domestic and pocketbook issues. The shift in Israel policy will play little into the election and gone are the days when a true Jewish democrat could look into domestic Israel policies and feel proud. Welcome to the club. Sometimes the old country your from- be it Lebanon, Israel, Iran, etc. is best colored in old memories rather than present day realities. You don't stop loving it. You love it too much. But you don't remain non-critical either. You still love it too much. I don't know if someone like Terry on these blogs would understand.
29 | Mark Jeffery Koch Cherry Hill, New Jersey USA, Thursday Jul 23, 2009
#24 Chaim, you do have more "truer" friends among Republicans than Democrats. It depends on how you define the word "true." You see, Republicans support Israel because they believe Armageddon is coming soon and the Jews will then embrace Jesus as their saviour. Also, Republicans are against Hispanics, Blacks, Gays, the environment, and are for the wealthy and don't care at all about the middle class. Me, I'm a Democrat and so are all my Jewish friends, and although this may surprise you we not only like Obama but love Israel, visit Israel and donate money to charities in Israel every year.
30 | Morton Friedman Lanham, MD, Thursday Jul 23, 2009
I am not too optimistic. There are none so blind that choose not to see. Demographics are very critical in the US. Note the embedding of ACORN into the voting process. I live in the only state that did NOT vote for Reagan. We now have a JINO Senator. In my local area the CAPOs fled when bussing was instituted, and then ousted a competent representative of long standing. Note the mass of semi-literates that have been promised a full tank of gas, and freedom from foreclosure. I suggest reading Atlas Shrugged, by Ayn Rand. You will see Obama's CHANGE, and what it took to eliminate it. Scary.
31 | Real American, Thursday Jul 23, 2009
Why all these postings from one Mark Jeffrey Koch? He is nothing but a self-hating Jew and a shill for Obama. Besides, he's very shrill and boring.
Notice I didn't say he was stupid but he can wait for that other shoe to drop.
32 | Mike Feldman, Canada, Thursday Jul 23, 2009
Mark. Startin to wonder what your smokin before you blog. A few days ago, you accused me of name calling and character assassination. When I asked you to point out which posts of mine you were referring to you went silent. Meanwhike you call Terry's post "inane" those who oppose your views "crazies" and you infer that becauae Netanyahu allegedly did not comment on those calling Rabin's patriotism into question, Bibi may bear some responsibilty for Rabin's asassination. Rabi was murdered by a radical right wing Jew. No further motive required. I suppose you could tell me what prompted CONT
33 | Mike Feldman, Canada, Thursday Jul 23, 2009
CONT Lee Harvey Oswald, James Earl Rae, Timothy McVay Sirhan Sirhan and John Wilkes booth to kill Kennedy, Martin Luther King, 150 Olahomans and Abraham Lincoln. Mighta been Bibi? Stop already with the miracle your guy is pulling off with the economy he inherited. He inherited it from his fellow Democrats who created the mortgage debacle.Whats with the horseshit about Repbublcans and Armageddon and and Jews embracing Jesus as their saviour. When I first started reading your posts I thought; O.K. ardent Democrat, supporter of the President, socially liberal Jewish boy. But now, I think you're certifiable.
34 | Mark Jeffery Koch Cherry Hill, New Jersey USA, Thursday Jul 23, 2009
to #24. The first George Bush, a Republican, withheld loan guarantees from Israel until Israel froze the settlements and his son who left office seven months ago destroyed Iraq and allowed Iran to become the strength (and threat to Israel) it is today. Obama came into office needing to let 1.2 Billion of the world's population know the U.S. was not at war with them. Seeing the problem of demographics and that the last two Presidents began a search for peace with only six months left in their presidency, he moved now. Freezing settlement growth does NOT harm Israel's security.
35 | Mike Feldman, Canada, Thursday Jul 23, 2009
Mark. One thing I forgot to mention. I'm a Republican and until you told me, I didn't know that I was against Hispanics, Blacks, Gays the environment and the middle class. My best friend is a poor Black/Hispanic gay person who drives a Prius.
36 | Mark Jeffery Koch Cherry Hill, New Jersey USA, Thursday Jul 23, 2009
#31: Real American afraid to say his name. Perhaps you need to read the posts on this blog and all over jpost.com. About 90% of them are anti Obama so unless you have a problem with people whose views differ from yours, accept free speech. Keep calling the 80% of American Jews who support Obama self haters. The greatest threat to Israel is not from Obama, or American Jews, Arab armies, or terrorists, but from the settlers and their right wing allies. Oh, and by the way, Netanyahu got 27 seats out of the 120 seat Knesset. I guess that means the majority of Israeli's agree with him too?
37 | Mike Feldman, Canada, Thursday Jul 23, 2009
#34 First of all I don't have any idea what #34 has to to with #24. The first George Bush was under the influence of James Baker, as Obama is under the influence of Rahm Emmanuel. Neither would do to well in a popularity contest in Israel, I'd be interested in how you think "W" "allowed" Iran to become the threat it is to-day to Israel, and what Obama is going to do about it. So, Radical Islam is a "demographic" problem. Is that because they scare us shitless or because not only do they scare us shitless, there's so many of them. Is it your view that not harming security is a positive measure?
38 | Hofikoman, Thursday Jul 23, 2009
Mark Jeffrey #34, Are you aware that the way Obama has gone about his business has caused his erstwhile allies on the Israeli left to criticize him and has many of them lining up behind Bibi Netanyahu although they can't stand him? He took the "American Galut superiority" attitude from his two main Jewish advisors and didn't understand that Israelis needed to feel as respected and appreciated as all the other nations he visited during his globe trotting. Instead his entire gravity shift toward the Arabs, in light of no direct outreach to Israelis, makes them feel as if they are being used!
39 | Real American, Thursday Jul 23, 2009
If the shoe fits, Koch, wear it. You are nothing but a self-hater hypocritically living on someone elses land. Go back to your ghetto and shut the hell up with your constant I LOVE OBAMA crap.
40 | Mike Feldman, Canada, Thursday Jul 23, 2009
Oh Mark. You're making me work to-day. 80% of American Jews vote for the Democratic candidate for President, you could run Fred Flinstone and he'd get 80%. So don't try to infer that American Jews voted for Obama because they had a personal affection for him. George W. Bush was an ardent supporter of Israel, and he never pulled in 20% of American Jewish voters. That's factored into any general election. Do you think you see the greatest threat to Israel, but the Israelis don't. Typical liberal know it all. Israel is a parliamentary system. The coalition formed by Bibi represents the majority of voters.
41 | Julie U.S., Thursday Jul 23, 2009
I am more threatened by Israel getting us involved in a third front where Americans pick up the cost and long term price. I would be happy with a good defense umbrella against Iran. Israel has no long term strategic planners. The demographic problems are not dealt with when one sees the continued expansion of settlements. And believe it or not, there are some in America too, that find the policies of collective guilt hard to stomach. It never gets beyond "they are just as bad" arguments and into what will be the consequences and the answers later down the road.
42 | moron galut, Thursday Jul 23, 2009
the talmud says pray for the welfare of the land where you dwell--the left weakens america and jewish democrats are not deserving of political support in congress just because they are jewish--especially as conservatives and republicans have been better friends of israel....next thing these demswhen voted out will claim its anti-semitism which is rubbish
43 | Evangelical - US, Thursday Jul 23, 2009
Wow....so many comments about Evangelicals =) Yes, I am one and I am a great supporter of Israel and most importantly the God of Israel. I am quite surprised by my Catholic friend who is so quick to reject the God of Israel. I recommend talking directly to him and bypassing the pope. Mr. Knoch, my love for Israel is based on promises given to Israel throughout the scriptures, most notably the Abrahamic Covenant in Gen 12. Maybe you should have more conversations with Evangelicals rather than making outrageous statements about which you obviously know very little. I am always ready to dialogue.
44 | Mike Feldman, Canada, Thursday Jul 23, 2009
Julie. Its good to know that you in the U.S. are comfortable with a good defense umbrella. I'm not so sure that if you were in Israel you'd be as comfortable. Let's say the umbrella works 95% of the time, and Iran fires 100 missles. Woops. Julie's very sorry. Furthermore, I think, unfortunately, you're starting to enuncialte Obama's next position on Iran. Good for the U.S. They get to sell lots of umbrellas in the Mid-East while the locals hope there are no leaks.
45 | Duncan Lennox, Thursday Jul 23, 2009
Jews have a spectrum of views (Left, Right , atheists, Reformed, crazy fundamentalists, etc,) but on average they do not in believe in justice for the indigenous population of Pal`n. Apartheid ,ethnic cleansing ,persecution, bombing civilians Pal`s often & mercilously are all good policies & actions that the Zionist leadership has carried out for 60 yrs. Perhaps living in a democracy vs theocracy makes some Am Jews less likely to support the GOP. However with Bush appointing Wolfowitz,Perle,Feith,Edelman,Wurmser, etc to Pentagon policy jobs AIPAC had the control to invade Iraq on their lies.
46 | Mark Jeffery Koch Cherry Hill, New Jersey USA, Thursday Jul 23, 2009
For those using the slander "self hating" Jews for people they don't agree with what is a "self hating Jew?" Someone who voted for Obama? (80% of American Jews) Someone who supports a settlement freeze and a two State solution? (A large number of Israeli's) There are those among us who support a Palestinian State living side by side in peace and security with the Jewish State of Israel who long for the time when children on both sides no longer know terror, war, bigotry and hatred. End the despair, hopelessness, anger and hatred and try working as hard as possible for a two State solution.
47 | Mark Jeffery Koch Cherry Hill, New Jersey USA, Thursday Jul 23, 2009
To #41 Julie. I sure hope you are not Jewish Julie because the rightwingers are going to be slandering you as a self hater and anti-Israel. You see, you are not allowed to disagree with the right wing in Israel without having your character attacked as well as your Jewishness. To them, unless you agree 100% with them you are no better than the enemy. Whenever a person writes a post saying they support a two State solution where two people's can live side by side in peace the rightwingers attack them personally.The real self haters are those that want to prevent a true peace from happening.
48 | Mark Jeffery Koch Cherry Hill, New Jersey USA, Thursday Jul 23, 2009
#40 Mike. I am very happy to learn that so many Israeli's love Netanyahu and the Likud. As to your question how did W help Iran? Try asking that question to Israeli army or intelligence services. If we had simply contained Saddam who was NOT a threat to anyone Iran would not be controlling events in Iraq (nor providing them with arms which have killed hundreds of American soldiers.) The Iranians were empowered by our botched up attempt to overthrow Saddam without clearly thinking about what would happen the day after. The biggest threat to Israel is Iran and we stupidly helped them.
49 | Jordan Ariel Philadelphia, PA USA, Thursday Jul 23, 2009
Evangelical - thank you! May you be blessed as you bless us. Mark - do you really think that settlements are stopping peace? Abbas and co. have a list of demands that are non negotiable. settlements, "east" Jerusalem, right of return. It would be nice if the Jews weren't the ones making every consession for nothing. What the PA has contributed so far? I'm also an American Jew from the Philly PA area, a republican, and i'm really not all that into hating blacks and gays etc. please take your faulty logic elsewhere. I want a bumper sticker that says "Obama made me a Republican"
50 | Amnon, the Great AMERICAN Southwest, Friday Jul 24, 2009
For Mark Koch,
I wonder if this fraud, this liar is same Mark from Cherry Hill who calls into the Dennis Prager show.
Hint, Mark, if that is you, why are you, an Obamite stooge, calling Prager? If that was you, here's some information for you to digest, so prepare to chew.
Dennis, like you, was once very much against the Settlements. I know this firsthand because I remember him telling me in 1984 he had "a problem with the settlements" - since then, he's changed his mind. Why? Maybe because of 16 years of Paly genocidal bombings, hate, violence and lies. He knows - you don't, buddy.
51 | Amnon, the Great AMERICAN Southwest, Friday Jul 24, 2009
And frankly Mark, the Palestinians whom you love so much more than fellow Jews - yes, you are a self-hater, and the sooner you admit it, the better off you'll be. But hey, you won't have much more to write about, will you? - the Palestinians DO NOT WANT PEACE. Period. Everytime a schmuck like you grovels to or applauds the anti-Semite in the White House, that only encourages their intrasigence, and adds fuel to the fire. Compared to Obama, Bibi is a giant, a man with at least some courage - where's Obama's - on his ass sitting in Jerry Wright's Pew? Maybe that's where you belong, Mark.
52 | Real American, Friday Jul 24, 2009
For the uninformed, or the ignorant ala Mark Koch...
The 78 percent of so-called Jewish-Americans who voted for Obama were Jews in Name Only. Their correct religion is called LIBERALISM, it is a fatal disease. True, Liberalism, like the Unions that serve it, once was for the common people. Until they got bloated, corrupt, and intolerant. Just like Obama is intolerant of Jews, or that the majority of major Democrats like Howie Dean and his ex-Jewish, now LIBERAL wife would prefer an even-handed approach to Israel and the Palys. In short, tolerance of Hamas, hate of settlements like Markie.
53 | Mike Feldman, Canada, Friday Jul 24, 2009
Mark. You're so into your little world that facts go in one ear and out the other while you filter reality to your point of your. I, for one, and at the criticism of some fellow posters favor a peaceful Palestinian state beside Israel. But there are no present factors which suggest that the Palestinians are prepared to live in peace next to Israel. It is your wish, but its currrently based on a fantasy. Your answer is for the Israelis to make concessions, and if they make enough concessions the Palestinians will realize that the israelis are swell neighbors and all will be fine. Cont'd
54 | Arthur in Miami, FL, Friday Jul 24, 2009
All Jewish Democrats supporting Obama's horrific treatment of Israel need to be replaced with Jewish REPUBLICANS who will stand up to stop this abuse!! Grow a spine for heaven's sake!!!
55 | Mike Feldman, Canada, Friday Jul 24, 2009
Mark Cont'd> I, for one, do not think of you as a self-hater. In fact, I think that you are so full of self-love that you think your opinion must prevail and damn anyone who doesn't agree with you. However in a word, you are a spoiled child. You persistanly point out that 80% of American Jews voted for Obama, despite the fact that I have stated that 80% of American Jews would vote for Mickey Mouse if he ran for President as a Democrat. In my #40, I pointed out that Netanyahu managed to form a coalition government in Israel's multi-party Knesset. Like a petulant child you said CONT
56 | Mike Feldman, Canada, Friday Jul 24, 2009
Cont. that you're happy that so many Israelis love Netanyahu and the Likud. Then you go on the Obama/Clinton apology tour by declaring that the Iranians are really nice guys who wouldn't provide arms to kill American soldiers and wouldn't be a threat to Israel if it wasn't for American foreign policy.
Then, without provocation, you bring Julie into your conversation and pre-emptively annoucne that if she is Jewish she will be branded as a self=hater. Mark you have done a service for the Jewish posters. We have often been accused of being too shrewd and too smart. You have single-handedly dispelled that rumour.
57 | Mike Feldman, Canada, Friday Jul 24, 2009
Duncan Lennox. Nice blog. Are you ever gonna come up with some new material when you actually have to think about what your posting. Your the Henny Youngman on anti-semites.
58 | Mike Feldman, Canada, Friday Jul 24, 2009
Mark. One more thing. You don't have to worry about being a self-hater. Wanna know why? i'll tell you, Because your a Jew. Why don't you ask for a survey of the posters on this blog and ask who likes you. My guess is that the Jews don't, and the other thans think you're funny, but not likeable.
59 | EdB, Friday Jul 24, 2009
"#3 american, Thursday Jul 23, 2009 Said: "Jewish loyalty is to Israel. " - And you wonder why Jews are not trusted? I would have hoped that since you are an American, you would be loyal to America. There is a reason that Jews are not well liked anywhere. You are the poster child. Congratulations.
60 | Real American, Friday Jul 24, 2009
Koch,
That other shoe has definitely dropped.
LOL.
Keep screaming and shilling, boy. And making excuses for your buddies Obama and Hamas. That's about your speed.
Incidentally when are you leaving your home? Some Lenni Lenape or Mohegan wants it back. You can always go back to the ghetto in Europe from whence you came. After all, that is what you are demanding of Jews who are living on their own land.
61 | robert, seattle, Friday Jul 24, 2009
The new buzz word of the Obama era is measuring a policy to see if its SUSTAINABLE. Its very simple: occupation of the West Bank is unsustainable over time. No occupation in history has been sustainable and most ended in a train wreck (figuratively). Best to end the occuopation on your own terms the way even Sharon understood, than wait for the inevitable train wreck.
62 | steven peled, Friday Jul 24, 2009
I dont believe for a minute that Mark Koch or his friends visit israel, love Israel or donate time or money to zionist causes. Lip service is what it is. Most jews of his type will never visit Israel in their lifetimes, and only blindly repeat the talking points our anti-semetic adversaaries have prepared for them.He might be a real break-away jew and have a subscription to Tikkun magazine laying around. somewhere. Drek like him will come to their senses, or just disappear into the woods, their connection to a vibrant jewish society retarded, and their jewishness lost, perhaps forever.sad.
63 | David W. Lincoln, Canada, Friday Jul 24, 2009
The level of biblical literacy is such that if someone were to mention Esther or Hadassah, the look of deer caught in the headlights would be prevalent.
I honestly wish that there would be positive Jewish reviews, or commentaries, on "The Abolition of Man".
But, there is the matter of "leading a horse to water, but unable to make it drink". The students may look attentive, but if they don't want to be, they will only look like they have learned. All without actually learning.
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