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Wednesday Oct 07, 2009
Rosner's Domain: Do Americans understand what they just said about Iran?Posted by SHMUEL ROSNER
Comments: 70      Follow Rosner's Domain on Twitter! / Join me on Facebook! Do Americans understand what they're saying? One doesn't know if one doesn't ask the question - and the specific question was not asked. However, what the public told PEW pollsters today is quite amazing.Take a look:
First, there's "substantial public support for non-military strategies aimed at persuading Iran from going ahead with its nuclear program". Yet, there's also "considerable skepticism that these efforts - tougher international sanctions as well as direct talks with Iran - would succeed in getting Iran to drop its nuclear program." And most importantly: "There is broad willingness across the political spectrum to use military force to prevent Iran from going nuclear". In other words: the people want talks but do not believe it will work. They support sanctions but also do not believe they can work. And if all fail, they say - and they assume that all is bound to failure - they support military strike. If one thinks logically about these three elements (talk, sanction, attack), one has to conclude that most Americans think that attack is bound to happen, and are still supportive of it. But here it becomes tricky, for two reasons: 1. "The survey finds that slightly more than half of Americans (51%) say they have a great deal (17%) or a fair amount (34%) of confidence in President Obama to do the right thing in dealing with Iran". But this is not clear: do they have confidence that he will do the right thing - namely, attack - or do they have confidence in him to do the right thing - namely, they trust him to decide whether attack is the right course. If it's the latter option, it means that Americans' support for attack will only hold if Obama decides that this is what necessary. It gives the President the leverage he needs if he wants to use violent means - but it does not pressure him (politically) to use violent means. 2. "comparable majorities of those who have heard a lot about the dispute
over Iran's nuclear program (64%), and those have heard little or
nothing about this (59%), say it is more important to prevent Iran from
developing nuclear weapons, even if it means using military force". However, many people didn't yet hear much about it (41% say they have heard a lot about the dispute over Iran's nuclear
program, while 41% have heard a little and 18% have heard nothing at all), and it's not at all clear if they'll stick to their guns after they hear some more.
1 | Daran, UK, Wednesday Oct 07, 2009
I'm glad this polll arms Obama with the kind of mandate the Iranians had better note. They need to reveal all nuclear research (especially the people and places involved in implosion tech) in a come clean exercise if they wish to avoid either crippling sanctions or worse.
2 | Terry - Eilat, Israel, Wednesday Oct 07, 2009
What the polls show is that a shocking number of people are uninformed of Iran's nuclear ambitions & the disasterous consequences of such a capability. It does explain, however, how a total incompetent like Obama got elected.
3 | Mike Feldman, Canada, Wednesday Oct 07, 2009
Terry. Fully agreed. Many Americans who voted last November had no idea what they were voting for, and a large number are still uninformed. Those who know the score are excoriated by the Democratic spin machine as rabble-rousers. I think Obama has already demonstrated a stubborn adherence to his own agenda regardless of public opinion, and the mainstream networks do little to keep Iran at the top of the news. Probably the only reason for the decent poll numbers is that Americans remember the hostage crisis and Carter and Reagan's respective handling of the issue. For many, ignorance and distance is bliss.
4 | David, Wednesday Oct 07, 2009
thats what you get from polls made in AIPAC bulding.
5 | Alan-USA, Wednesday Oct 07, 2009
Why do you think Iran would be any different than Irag regarding compliance to sanctions? Saddam ignored 17 UN Resolutions and countless economic sanctions. Result-Saddam is GONE. Ahmadinejad is following the same course, only the stakes are MUCH HIGHER. One way or another, confrontaion is INEVITABLE. Only question is, whether Israel or US will pull the trigger first. If neither do, Iran will.
6 | julie, Wednesday Oct 07, 2009
If the military option was a true option, I think it would have been implemented earlier or at least would have more vocal support from the Pentagon which has been quiet. It opens a host of new dangerous predicaments that will last the next 100 years. Obama has a liberal domestic agenda, but his foreign policy has pleased the republicans more than the democrats. We could have imposed much harsher sanctions earlier. Why didn't we? Also it was a major mistake to have the U.S. not be in the earlier negotiations. It just gave the Iranians more time to do as the pleased.
7 | julie, Wednesday Oct 07, 2009
If the military option was a true option, I think it would have been implemented earlier or at least would have more vocal support from the Pentagon which has been quiet. It opens a host of new dangerous predicaments that will last the next 100 years. Obama has a liberal domestic agenda, but his foreign policy has pleased the republicans more than the democrats. We could have imposed much harsher sanctions earlier. Why didn't we? Also it was a major mistake to have the U.S. not be in the earlier negotiations. It just gave the Iranians more time to do as the pleased.
8 | cares1996, Wednesday Oct 07, 2009
I`VE SEEN NO CHANGE IN PUBLIC OPINION ON IRAN,THE SAME PEOPLE PREVIOUSLY ARE STILL OPPOSED,ITS JUST CUMBAYA INTELLECT THATS BEEN AROUND FOR DECADES,THESE PEOPLE WILL BE THE SAME ONE`S PROTESTING ANY WAR ANYWHERE FOR ANY REASON,ALL SANCTIONS WILL DO IS MOVE TRADE TO THE NORTH,THE ADDITIONAL TROOPS REQUESTED ON IRAN`S EASTERN BORDER WILL BE BEST SHOT AT SPLITTING IRANIAN DISPOSITION ON WEAPONARY,HOWEVER THIS DIDN`T WORK BEFORE,AND THIS IRANIAN LEADERSHIP SEEMS AS MENTALLY CHALLENGED AS SADAAM WAS.IF WANT AN ACCURATE POLL CONTACT ME THIS INFO ERA IS BEING NEGLECTED
9 | Daran, UK, Wednesday Oct 07, 2009
Why do those who oppose Obama let their own political bias blind them to this good news? Are not those who consider Iran dangerous heartened by the fact most Americans give their President the "ammo" to tell Iran to comply or else? Instead we get these "descriptions" which bear little resemblance to reality as it appears to others. "Many Americans who voted last November had no idea what they were voting for" doesn't that belittle Americans voters? would those same voters have had a better idea if they had voted for a ticket which included Palin rlol
10 | David usa, Wednesday Oct 07, 2009
This whole thing is bull..... Most Americans are so ill-informed , they couldn't find Iran on the map, much less know anything about the intricate details involved in the region. One thing is sure - with two wars going badly, when push comes to shove , they will hardly vote for yet another military adventure.
11 | mike Feldman, Canada, Wednesday Oct 07, 2009
"those who oppose Obama let their own political bias blind them to this good new?" Doesn't that "belittle" the poster who wrote it? "would those same voters have had a better idea had the voted for a ticket whch included Palin" (last word indistinguishable). Isn't that an elitist leftie's point of view regarding a conservative female Governor chosen as a Vice-Presidential candidate. Doesn't Joe Biden regularly put his foot in his mouth? Weren't he and Obama against the surge in Iraq? Didn't John Kerry say Afghanistan was the "good" war, and now the Dems vacillate over whether or not it is winnable. CONT
12 | Mike Feldman, Canada, Wednesday Oct 07, 2009
#9 CONT. Maybe you're saying if publc opinion for action against Iran surges high enough, it will be sufficient to drag the administration into action. I stand by my statement, that many Americans did not know what they were voting for last November. It seems in the land of the blind liberals the one-eyed man is king. #10. Just noticed your blog. Your wars going badly number count is out by one. Your would have been correct if Bush's term had ended sooner.
13 | Herbert, Wednesday Oct 07, 2009
Why are their no polls which ask americans if they believe in Iran and WMD after the same false claims were made about Iraq?
14 | Daran, UK, Thursday Oct 08, 2009
What I am saying is that Obama's policies have found the widest yet consensus internationally, now this poll points to Americans backing him personally to "handle it". Including military option. This seems in the end to a be trust issue, those who for reasons other than the Iranian issue, it seems, don't trust Obama. Those who see sound reasoning thus far in what Obama has called for and not ruled out. Biden maybe gaff prone, you doubt his foreign policy and political nous? Anyone who wishes well and to keep up the "good work" upon organisations that call for the scraping of the US cont.
15 | Daran, UK, Thursday Oct 08, 2009
Cont. Constitution. She was a rabbit in the headlights of interviewers. The hockey mum title got real close to home, darling of the "got guns got religion got grumbles" but foreign policy knowledge was as deep as a car park puddle. Palin a heartbeat away, from the hottest seat in the house, well out of her depth, That McCain should choose her gives rise to questions about his judgement that damaged his campaign I think.
16 | melody usa, Thursday Oct 08, 2009
i didnt vote for obama and i was dem.i voted rep.i am so afraid what our president going to do.people has forgotten 9-11..i dont trust iran..i stand for israel.i pray israel,i am a christian.i do know where all the countries are in the middle east.we are tired od war,i thinks thats whats wrong with usa.i agree,,but we do need to defend.israel do what you have to.iran is laughing at us.read the book of revelation it says this would happen.we have so many problems here in usa.when did usa think they ruled the world?i am afraid we are are coming to be socialised i hope not.
17 | bannister, USA, Thursday Oct 08, 2009
Wrong question as usual.
The right question
Would you favor Attacking Iran if it meant you would have to pay $7.00 a gallon?
Would you favor Attacking Iran if it turned out they already had nukes and one would go off in America?
18 | Linda USA, Thursday Oct 08, 2009
For what it's worth, this is one American who fully supports defending Israel militarily. I don't trust Obama, though. He is no friend of Israel. I agree that many Americans got something far different than what they were hoping for when they voted for him. Shame on them for not educating themselves, even if main street media made it difficult. His associations made it easy to see through the campaign rhetoric.
19 | Bob, USA, Thursday Oct 08, 2009
I'm an American who knows who he voted for last November...and it wasn't Obama. Much of what I see written here about many Americans I believe is true. Those who voted for Obama knew only that they wanted "Change" and a "Progressive" in the White House....and yes, this means they wanted someone who wouldn't go to war unless it was only for purposes to repel an attack on American soil. I am personally afraid for our allies...or those we call allies. Unless we change our President here in the US, I'm afraid we're going to abandon our allies to their peril...and our own eventual peril.
20 | Leskeptic, Thursday Oct 08, 2009
Americans ill-informed? That's not strong enough. Social studies have been neglected in our public school system for at least 30 years. Many don't know what Middle East means! And certainly not where that name came from. Our extreme nationalism and militarism makes being informed unnecessary. "Do as we say," or get nuked back to the stone age. Ethnocentrism flourishes because education does not. War is profitable for some!
21 | Bob, USA, Thursday Oct 08, 2009
OPINION: The US attacked and occupied Iraq because of Iraq's strategic proximity between Iran and Israel. The US was also wary of Iran attacking and occupying a weakening Iraq if the US didn't strike first. Of course, if Iran had defeated Iraq's army and eventually occupied Iraq, Israel's security would have been severely jeopardized. Bottom line is that I believe we are there for the PRIMARY purpose of protecting our ally, Israel & secondarily to liberate the peoples of Iraq from Saddam and the subequent insurgency. Question is, will Obama uphold these objectives and if so, for how long?
22 | Tallmud is a ratshit and your messiah is a toilet cleaner, Thursday Oct 08, 2009
you pieces of shit you selfish bitchess i hope you fuucking burn in hell fuuck you all ,you satanic dirty jews you motherfucking cocksuuckers trash of whores your a bunch of pedophiles , psychopaths , zoophiles . A TIME WILL COME when the term israel doesnt exist at all , and the term jews doesnt exist also coz they would be sent to fuckinng burn in the eternal flames of hell with your fuucking talmud shoved up ur fuucking gayasses
23 | Tallmud is a ratshit and your messiah is a toilet cleaner, Thursday Oct 08, 2009
you pieces of shit you selfish bitchess i hope you fuucking burn in hell fuuck you all ,you satanic dirty jews you motherfucking cocksuuckers trash of whores your a bunch of pedophiles , psychopaths , zoophiles . A TIME WILL COME when the term israel doesnt exist at all , and the term jews doesnt exist also coz they would be sent to fuckinng burn in the eternal flames of hell with your fuucking talmud shoved up ur fuucking gayasses Tallmud is a ratshit and your messiah is a toilet cleaner
24 | Tallmud is a ratshit and your messiah is a toilet cleaner, Thursday Oct 08, 2009
you pieces of shit you selfish bitchess i hope you fuucking burn in hell fuuck you all ,you satanic dirty jews you motherfucking cocksuuckers trash of whores your a bunch of pedophiles , psychopaths , zoophiles . A TIME WILL COME when the term israel doesnt exist at all , and the term jews doesnt exist also coz they would be sent to fuckinng burn in the eternal flames of hell with your fuucking talmud shoved up ur fuucking gayasses Tallmud is a ratshit and your messiah is a toilet cleaner
25 | Gil- Sderot Israel, Thursday Oct 08, 2009
President Barack Hussein Obama seems to talk , talk and talk. Has he achived anything since he has been in office?
What has he achived in the USA, what has he achived in the Middle East? What if ever will he achive.
Enough talking Obama, be a president and do decisive actions....too much talk.
26 | Tom, US, Thursday Oct 08, 2009
25 | Gil- Sderot Israel - Actually Gil, Obama achieved far more in the short period of time he has been in office than Bush destroyed in 8 years of sucking Yid C while all the world laughed at America's failed foreign policy. Now what Obama is doing might not appeal to all you jews who think that America is your nigger slave but what he is doing is in the best interest of America and the American people. Iran has no nuclear weapons program so all your paranoid schizo rants regarding attacking Iran are NOT going to happen.
27 | Daniel-Atlanta, Thursday Oct 08, 2009
The poll says the American people learned from the Bush fiasco in Iraq. They want to go through the process of seeking a diplomatic solution with Iran before jumping to the next step, military confrontation. The Bush decision to go to war with Iraq has been shown by history to have been disastrous in the war on terrorism. Bush should have finished Afghanistan (which is still a mess after many years of neglect) before taking on another war. The American people are still facing the same choice, finish Afghanistan or let it slide into choas by diverting to Iran before it is absolutely necessary.
28 | Sonny USA, Thursday Oct 08, 2009
Americans have a beef with Iran that goes back to Jimmy Carter dayÂ’s Rosener. For 444 days they humiliated the US and that score has never been settled. ThatÂ’s why American opinion is so strongly in favor of blowing up Iran. But the country just elected BHO who may turn out to be worst than Carter. America has the will; we just lack the leadership to carry it out. I think if the US would have taken a stronger stance 30 years ago on Iran the Iranians would not of been emboldened today. They have never lost yet; the world just lets it ride. Iran will be less a threat in the very near future.
29 | "Little Colonel", NYC NY, Thursday Oct 08, 2009
To Mike Feldman -- Americans did KNOW what they were getting, sadly 80% of the American Jews who voted for Obama (I'm a amoung the Proud 20% who didn't), also KNEW they were getting a extreme left wing radical, who associates with anti-Americans, and anti-Semites such as Farrakhan, Rev "Them Jews" Wright, Bill Ayers. I can go on and on. To compare Obama to Neville Chamberlain is actually a disgrace, because at the rate Obama is going now -- he is actually making Chamberlain look like George Patton!
30 | Sonny USA, Thursday Oct 08, 2009
When military hostilities do brake out between the US and Iran, I think it will go nuclear very quickly, because the Iranians probably all ready have nukes. As for BHO I donÂ’t think he will finish out his first term. He already has more death threats than any president before him. Oh you better believe thereÂ’s big change coming to the US that Washington is not prepared for. How can you fix the US economic problem of having to much debt by spending even more? This whole thing is rotten to the core, politicians just think the people are too stupid to do anything about it. Surprise!
31 | Sonny USA, Thursday Oct 08, 2009
Americans have a beef with Iran that goes back to Jimmy Carter dayÂ’s Rosener. For 444 days they humiliated the US and that score has never been settled. ThatÂ’s why American opinion is so strongly in favor of blowing up Iran. But the country just elected BHO who may turn out to be worst than Carter. America has the will; we just lack the leadership to carry it out. I think if the US would have taken a stronger stance 30 years ago on Iran the Iranians would not of been emboldened today. They have never lost yet; the world just lets it ride. Iran will be less a threat in the very near future.
32 | Mike Feldman, Canada, Thursday Oct 08, 2009
22, 23, and 24. Looks like someone forgot to take their meds. If I didn't know it was the meds, I'd think you have a streak of anti-semitism. Rosner is there really a monitoring process?
33 | Terry - Eilat, Israel, Thursday Oct 08, 2009
RE: #22/23/24. Thank you Rosner for posting this charming piece of work, you do us all a service by reminding us exactly how pathological many anti-Semites really are. Liberal Jews often cannot believe the depth of irrational hatred against us, they think people like this don't exist anymore, that this is somehow a relic of the Nazi era. Most anti-Semites are somewhat more reserved, the new style is called anti-Zionism which makes it more ''respectable'' but it's no less ill-intentioned.
34 | Daran, UK, Thursday Oct 08, 2009
Wow I am not allowed by moderator to equate certain historical leaders with acts of terror but #23 gets to have that loathsome rant posted??????
35 | Mike Feldman, Canada, Thursday Oct 08, 2009
#14. Joe Biden advocated dividing Iraq into three separate countries. I certainly wish Obama good health as long as he is President, with Biden at the ready. Don't know what other international policies exist that can be compared to Obama's to see whose meets with widest favour. I think Americans see Iran as an issue that must be dealt with as being separate from personal trust of the President. Also, if you take a closer look at the way the Obama has been running the country, you'll see the Constitution being violated on many occassions.
36 | Jordan Ariel, Thursday Oct 08, 2009
I'm curious as to how comments 22-24 were "approved" to appear. I'm surprised he/she got the math question right. Really classy though.
Gil - Not really sure if we WANT obama to do anything, considering he often has senior moments and forgets who the United States of America's allies are.
37 | Krystal Brown Florida. U S A, Thursday Oct 08, 2009
Please understand not all of us side with out government.. And their choices.. Though some of us either ignore sit around and complain to others who do the same.. We have become a lazy self centered nation.. . and the only thing I can say is that I am soo Vey sorry..Maybe some day we will get off our tails and do something but for now we are busy playing baseball..
God bless you all..
38 | krystal Brown USA, Thursday Oct 08, 2009
Not all of us are actually polled Im sorry but I havent been polled since we have gotten a new president probably due to being a republican. But understand one thing some of us know where iran is they just dont care or are too busy looking for a cosmetic doctors then worrying about what happens in the world..
we are either full of ourselves or full of hate and blame.. Sad to think..We call ourselves Christians Or Jewish and we believe in the same God but we cant help each other.. Now look in the mirror.
39 | John / Maine, Thursday Oct 08, 2009
What?
You don't think Bibi's secret meerting with Putin is about OIL?
Russia's economy is collapsing, and Israel needs the Russian fossel fuel (Tip Line...Russias new agreement with Trukey on another new pipeline to Israel).
Russia needs Israel to bomb Iran so that the price of oil will go up worldwide, but has arranged that the pipelines will be preserved to Israel and involved other countries.
Who can really trust Obama, but maybe you need to be looking a bit closer in your backyard.
40 | Le' Faux Jew, Thursday Oct 08, 2009
#22....can't we all just get along?
Do you go to Reverend Wrights church?
41 | Mike Feldman, Canada, Thursday Oct 08, 2009
The interesting thing about #22 is that I believe a speech analyst could link this post to a frequent blogger. Sorta a momentary loss of control like diarreah.
42 | Daran, Uk, Thursday Oct 08, 2009
You could compare the previous admin to Obama. Or perhaps you could compare his policy with a creditable republican foreign policy document if you could find one. The difference between Palin's support for groups to cede states from the US and the Obama admin who express aim is to a "more perfect union" is a huge gulf to my thinking, I'm not aware of Obama violations of the US constitution, But I think he'd be willing to submit to the supreme court. Unlike the separatists whom Palin coddles. Given shia lead federalism in Iraq is an entirely new, many in my own nation advocated split.in past
43 | David J Feiger Oakland Park, Fl USA, Thursday Oct 08, 2009
Those that suffer are the Iranian people as ell as the Arabs it subjugate through it's Imperialistic colonies in Lebanon and Gaza. The Iranian's traded one boss, the Shaw for another boss, the Mullahs thanks to France.The Shaw was repressive against religious fanaticism but he ruled a secular progressive Western Monarchy that created the educated middle class the enabled it to developed rapidly in it's pursuit of advanced offensive military capabilities. The hatred of Persians by Arabs exceeded that of the Jews but still exists. A devastating attack on Iran's military would free Iranians.
44 | David J Feiger Oakland Park, Fl USA, Thursday Oct 08, 2009
Those that suffer are the Iranian people as ell as the Arabs it subjugate through it's Imperialistic colonies in Lebanon and Gaza. The Iranian's traded one boss, the Shaw for another boss, the Mullahs thanks to France.The Shaw was repressive against religious fanaticism but he ruled a secular progressive Western Monarchy that created the educated middle class the enabled it to developed rapidly in it's pursuit of advanced offensive military capabilities. The hatred of Persians by Arabs exceeded that of the Jews but still exists. A devastating attack on Iran's military would free Iranians.
45 | Red, Friday Oct 09, 2009
#24 Needs his mouth flushed out with lye. Sadly he does not yet realize all his curses on Israel will fall on his own head. How will Obama know what to do if someone doesn't tell him? He has leverage to do something but is not under pressure to do anything. Flip a coin.
46 | Lynda, Canada, Friday Oct 09, 2009
Re: #22-#24
It's a good job you're not Canadian! In Canada such political incorrectness would warrant a tap on the knuckles and a sending to bed without your supper. Naughty.
47 | Teresa, USA, Friday Oct 09, 2009
I am an American and this I do understand: Bullies don't understand talking they only understand a fist.
48 | coinman, Friday Oct 09, 2009
No one has asked me or anyone I know whether attacking Iran is wise. All of US want American soldiers home NOW, and feel that this is what we voted for Obama to do. We want peace between Israel and the Palestinians, not in "many years", but immediately, for this intolerable situation is poisoning the earth. Settlements must stop NOW, while a two-state solution is still logistically possible. My friends are hoping Obama will make the right choice, which is to end the fighting in Afghanistan-even the soldiers can't explain why we're there. If Israel is full of nukes THEY are the threat to peace
49 | Mike Feldman, Canada, Friday Oct 09, 2009
#42. In a topsy turvy world, I could accept McCain's selection of Palin as a mistake. In your view it is better to elect a President with no foreign policy experience if he has an experienced Vice-President than to elect an experienced President with an inexperienced Vice President. And to give this flip any credibilty one would have to accept that Obama had more foreign policy than Palin. I've seen a lot of press on Palin, but I have seen nothing to suggest she supports state's right to succeed. Federal juristiction over health care is for one tramping on the Constitution. The federal gov CONT
50 | Mike Feldman, Canada, Friday Oct 09, 2009
#42 CONT - derives it powers from those given to it by the individual states.. The states did not give the Federal Government the right to forbid individuals from crossing state lines to buy competively priced health insuranace. Yet the Federal Govenment is doing just that. The US government is built on the separation of powers between the Legistaltive and Executive Branches. The Legislative has the right to vet and confirm appoints of those who weild Executive power. Yet the Obama administration has named many czars without vetting or consutation. Recently a racist, socialist was fired. CONT
51 | Mike Feldman, Canada, Friday Oct 09, 2009
#42 Part 3. Now we learn that the Czar responsible for improving schools has advanced the right to adult men to have sex with male juveniles. It is impossible to believe these individuals views were not known, Yet they are appointed without confirmation. In terms of foreign policy, Obama won the Nobel Peace Prize to-day. The deadline for nominations was 12 days after his inaugeration. It seems to me that the left is go ga ga for Obama that he really doesn't have to accomplish anything to be worshipped. In terms of foreign policy, that is exactly what I think he has accomplised.
52 | Raff, Friday Oct 09, 2009
If you were to walk in any USA shopping mall you would be or are horrified by the amount of obese people with their guts almost reaching their shoes. There is an old Indian saying that goes:"Fat in your body is fat in your mind". I daily work with American people and most of them don't seem to know more than to stuff their mouths with garbage food. This apparently unrelated comment has a lot to do about the mindset of the electorate that votes in the Bushes and now the Obamas. However Carter dismal legacy is hanging over Obama, and if he also fumbles with Iran, he will be a one term prez
53 | A.B, Friday Oct 09, 2009
Have you folks heard that Obama has just won the Nobel Peace Prize? And it is for advocating a nucleur weapons free world. Blah,Blah,Blah.
This Titanic has already hit the iceberg, so we break out the champagne and celebrate our final moments.
The Arabs will never sincerely accept a Jewish State living side by side with them. This I know for a fact and all the crap spewed out daily by the Appeasers will not change the stated fact that every last muslim seeks the dissolution of Israel even if it means nuking their own people.
GOD BLESS ISRAEL
54 | cormier -canada, Friday Oct 09, 2009
All this talk about a USA military strike is obsolete. The Nobel peace prize saw to that. It is inconceivable that OBama would now start yet another war. Israel's best option is two fold :1 Remain the predominant military power in the region- with a massive capability for retaliation 2. Seek a lasting peace under the terms of the "Saudi overtures" to Thomas Friedman- A "TRUE" return to the 1967 border - with East Jerusalem for a viable Palestinian state and a demiltarized Golan to Syria. In exchange, full recognition from all Arab countries and premanent peace treaty and trade agreements.
55 | Rozz - presently on the move (travelling), Friday Oct 09, 2009
It seems the world is against Israel for having their nuke(s). God bless them for such wisdom! A tiny little patch of land in the middle of billions of horrid arabs who seel only blood and death to all who are not muhammad worshippers. What do the arabs know about a God. They know about their god but have no idea about the real God of Heaven and Earth. They love blood.... well very soon they are going to watch their own blood spouting streams. They must watch.... God will not be mocked.
56 | Bill Collins, Spokane, Friday Oct 09, 2009
Obama (N.C.) just got the Nobel Peace Prize, hahaha!!! How'd he do it??? He's threw Israel under the bus!!!! Telling all of the Muslims that they're really peace loving peoples who do no harm to anyone--list does include (Jews, Christians, women, and anyone else they deem worthy of death)! Enjoy this O, you and all those who voted for you deserve it shoved up your collective backsides!!!! Meanwhile, Israel, you are on your own until, or if a conservative comes to power in the U.S.!!! P.S. a Blair EU presidency is like having a second Neville Chamberlain, and a closet (Jew Hater)!!!
57 | cares1996, Friday Oct 09, 2009
As far as fighting,history shows clearly what party stands for what,MIKE FELDMAN SEEMS TO THINK BEFORE TALKING,BUT BEFORE THE HISTORY CHANGES,WHICH PARTY GOT US INVOLVED IN VIETNAM,ME THINKS 12000 MILITARY ADVISORS ENTERED US,WHICH SIDE GOT US OUT,NIXON,WHICH SIDE PROTESTED SOLDIERS THAT THERE OWN PARTY SENT TO WAR,WHICH PARTY RETREATED WHEN MARINES ATTACKED,WHICH SIDE KICKED COMMIE BUTT IN COLD WAR,WHICH SIDE LET 3 EMBASSIES AND A WARSHIP GET ATTACKED WITHOUT ACTION,PEOPLE DO A LITTLE HOMEWORK THERE`S NO COMPARISON,CODE PINK IS PART OF WHICH SIDE
58 | cares1996, Friday Oct 09, 2009
#42 you`ve obviously been misinformed see here in AMERICA our president takes an oath to be pro-American first and foremost not pro-european first,Mrs.Palin is more pius than myself,thats been portrayed and brutally exploited,for what reason-she somehow managed to be be a mom and sucessfull governor,issues for which obama admin say they advocate for,however when a woman actually achieves these goals they mock her,her family and even clothing.(complete hipocrisy)this is the same hipocricy ISRAEL FACES DAILEY.Back to MRS. PALIN I`M PROUD TO BE ON YOUR SIDE.massod verify who`s who.
59 | Raff-USA, Friday Oct 09, 2009
#10 David. Today's wars are a joke. I have a friend that was a Marine for two tours in Iraq. Fought in Falluja, got a purple heart. When he was send for the second tour he, like his comrades were given a 15 points to memorize BEFORE returning fire. How can you win wars with political BS like that. Afghanistan is another snake pit, we don't want to antagonize the pakis which created the taliban in the first place and have let them regroup by giving them refuge in Waziristan along with Bin Laden. is not that american don't know is that both sides of the isle in Congress and the WH are rotten
60 | YM, New Jersey, Friday Oct 09, 2009
Gerry, operation Cast Lead certainly helped enhance Israel's security in the short term - How many Kassams have fallen in Sderot since then compared to before? Same with the 2006 Lebanon War; Israel ended up with an upgrade of the UN force and the ability of Hebollah to operate openly south of the Litani River was greatly reduced.
Beyond teshuva, the other thing that Israel would benefit from is more application of Professor Aumans game theory.
61 | YM, New Jersey, Friday Oct 09, 2009
Gerry, operation Cast Lead certainly helped enhance Israel's security in the short term - How many Kassams have fallen in Sderot since then compared to before? Same with the 2006 Lebanon War; Israel ended up with an upgrade of the UN force and the ability of Hebollah to operate openly south of the Litani River was greatly reduced.
Beyond teshuva, the other thing that Israel would benefit from is more application of Professor Aumans game theory.
62 | driverq5, Friday Oct 09, 2009
Obama and his huge peace price elarged ego wont strike Iran even if they use nukes. The medal was in part given to bind him at the hip to terrorist states and third world thugs. Now if he goes military on them they will call him a hipocrite. Israel must act and soon to save the world from Obama and the leaders in Iran.. the world waits..
63 | Beck Kentucky, Friday Oct 09, 2009
Bomb Iran's nuclear facilities NOW before it's too late. It's like playing around with the 3rd Reich. History repeats itself!
64 | Beck Kentucky, Friday Oct 09, 2009
Bomb Iran's nuclear facilities NOW before it's too late. It's like playing around with the 3rd Reich. History repeats itself!
65 | Margie Nelsen, Saturday Oct 10, 2009
ISRAEL COULDN'T HAVE A BETTER FRIEND THAN SARAH PALIN SO PLEASE DON'T DOWNGRADE HER BECAUSE SHE DOESN'T FIT THE LIBERAL UK AGENDA. I BET BIBI WOULD MUCH RATHER BE DEALING WITH HER THAN OBAMA. THE THING THAT BOTHERS ME MOST IS THE PEOPLE OF IRAN WHO TRIED TO RISE UP FOR FREEDOM WERE NOT HELPED BY THE UK, THE USA, OR ANY OTHER COUNTRY THAT MIGHT HAVE STOOD WITH THEM. THEY ARE NOW CAUGHT IN THE CROSS-FIRE BECAUSE THEY HAVE A CRAZY DICTATOR AND A BUNCH OF SATANIC MULLAHS CONTROLLING HIM.
66 | Stanley-Roswell, Saturday Oct 10, 2009
67 | molly-glasgow, Sunday Oct 11, 2009
#23 well we all know who your master is.
68 | Mike Feldman, Canada, Tuesday Oct 13, 2009
Sarah Palin is rat shit !
69 | Mike Feldman, Canada, Tuesday Oct 13, 2009
The retard who actually wrote #68 makes rat shit look like a delicacy. I think one of our regular one name bloggers has early onset alzheimers.
70 | lydia, Wednesday Oct 14, 2009
28 Sony, America has a beef with Iran? US oust their democratically elected Mosadev and install the Shah. 1988 we sail 8000 miles to Iran and blow their passenger jet IR655 out of their skies, killing all 290 innocent passengers on board. 1996 we agree to pay them $131Mil, in compensation. 2007 we raid their Iraq consulate and kidnap their 2 diplomats, they raid the green zone and kidnap 6 Brits. At the moment we are bobbing to Israels tune of 'bomb! bomb! Iran.' Who should really have a beef with whom here? Leave them alone, if we hit them they will hit back, they aren't Arabs. Talk Peace!
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