JPost.com  »   BlogCentral  »  Rosner's Domain
Sunday Nov 23, 2008

Rosner's Domain: Apparently, Jewish Orthodox voters didn't think Obama was scarier than John Kerry

Posted by SHMUEL ROSNER
Comments: 3
Decrease text sizeDecrease text size
Increase text sizeIncrease text size

1.

For those still in doubt: the National Jewish Democratic Council has published a short analysis sent by the Mellman Group (namely, Mark Mellman) to the Solomon Project (namely, Ira Forman). Bottom line: Jews voted for Obama in numbers similar to the exit polls numbers. It might be 78-22 or 77-22 or 75-23, doesn't really matter. Using three data sources, Mellman got to a conclusion: "Barack Obama won the Presidency with between 76% and 78% of the Jewish vote".

The three sources are the national exit polls, exit polls in 28 states, and Gallup polls. "Each of these data sources has strengths and weaknesses, but they converge in finding that the President-elect garnered between 74% and 78% of the total Jewish vote and 77%-78% of the two-party Jewish vote".

Case closed, I guess.

2.

And more on the Jewish vote:

Using data available to the public, the Public Policy office of the Orthodox Union has compiled a short list of precincts "with High-Concentration Of Orthodox Jewish Voters". This will not be a surprise to the experienced reader, but Orthodox tend to vote the Republican ticket in much higher numbers. However (as you can see in the table bellow) this was more visible four years ago than it was this time. In other words: In some of the cases presented here, Orthodox voted in higher numbers to the 2004 Bush-Cheney ticket than for the 2008 McCain-Palin ticket. This means - interestingly - and assuming that such pattern can be found in other places too - that the Obama-bad-for-Israel campaign didn't really work with Orthodox voters, and that Obama was not seen by the O-voters as someone less trustworthy than John Kerry.

Several reasons contributed to the relative timid response by Orthodox voters to the McCain ticket (that's an opinion, the data does not provide for many clues):

  1. Like many Americans, Orthodox Jews thought it was time for the GOP to get its butt kicked.
  2. The economy has a profound impact on Orthodox families with a lot of children and a lot of expenses.
  3. Bush was rewarded in 2004 for his friendship toward Israel. McCain wasn't.
  4. Sarah Palin was a downer to Jews, some Orthodox included.

 For those interested in the numbers, here's the OU table:

 

2000

 

2004

 

2008

 

 

Bush/

 

Cheney

 

Gore/

 

Lieberman

 

Bush/

 

Cheney

 

Kerry/

 

Edwards

 

McCain/

 

Palin

 

Obama/

 

Biden

 

Beachwood, OH1

 

20

 

 

77

 

35

 

65

 

28

 

71

 

Boca Raton, FL2

 

32

 

 

67

 

55 (48)

 

45 (51)

 

52

 

48

 

Brooklyn, NY3

 

34

 

56

 

66

 

29

 

Not yet available

 

Not yet available

 

Lakewood, NJ4

 

46

 

 

51

 

67

 

33

 

69

 

31

 

Miami, FL5

 

29

 

 

69

 

57

 

42

 

49

 

50

 

Teaneck, NJ6

 

17

 

 

81

 

47

 

52

 

49

 

51

 

Wickliffe, OH7

 

41

 

 

55

 

52

 

46

 

59

 

37

 

Passaic, NJ8

 

 

-

 

-

 

-

 

-

 

42

 

57

 



1 Cuyahoga County Precincts Beachwood-00-C, F, G, H, and K (Beachwood High School,

25100 Fairmount Boulevard
), and University Heights-00-K, L, and M (Temple Emanu El,
2200 South Green Road
)

 

2 Palm Beach County Precinct 4145 (Del Prado Elementary School), as identified by Boca Raton Synagogue (7900 Montoya Circle, N) After the 2000 elections, then-labeled Precinct 193B was split into two precincts, 4144 and 4145. The results given were for 4145 only, since it alone was identified as being the primary precinct for the Orthodox community; however, for a more accurate comparison from 2000, refer to the parenthetical numbers, which reflect the results of both 4144 and 4145. The 2008 numbers represent both precinct 4144 and 4145, together.

 

3 Aggregate results of Kings County, 48th Assembly District, which is home, among others, to Beth Torah Congregation (R. Lieberman), G’vul Ya’avetz, Young Israel of Flatbush, and Young Israel of Midwood.

 

4 Aggregate results of Lakewood Township.

 

5 Miami-Dade County Precinct 29 (North Beach Elementary School), as identified by Beth Israel Congregation (770 West 40th Street).  Voter turnout for the precinct was 46% less in 2004 than in 2000, which is likely due to early voting in other precincts.

 

6 Bergen County, Teaneck, Districts D-11, D-12, and D-18, which are home to Beth Aaron Congregation (Rabbi Rothwachs), Bnei Yeshurun Congregation (Rabbi Pruzansky), Congregation Keter Torah (Rabbi Baum), and Rinat Yisrael Congregation (Rabbi Adler).

 

7 Lake County, Wickliffe City Ward 2, Precinct B (Wickliffe Middle School, 29240 Euclid Avenue).  Telshe Yeshiva borders on Lake and Cuyahoga Counties.

 

8 Passaic County, City of Passaic, Ward 3 (School #3, Ahavas Ctr, School #1, Senior Ctr, School #3).

 

 

BOOKMARK or SHARE: technorati digg del.icio.us reddit newsvine facebook What's this?
Print  |  
Comments: Post your own comment
1  |  nuchem Israel, Sunday Nov 23, 2008
Just goes to show how the masses are pluralistically ignorant after all. Already indirect meetings are held or proposed ranging from Iran to Hamas. And appointees who are soft on above enemies are being appointed. Kouchner is shocked at Obama's willingness to deal directly with Iran etc.
2  |  elliot--usa, Monday Nov 24, 2008
mccain,not palin, was th weak candidate, although educated women seem to resent gov palin--jealousy as near as i can tell from the venality and venom of the media critique of her
3  |  Zev, Ann Arbor, MI, Monday Dec 01, 2008
Your analysis that, "the Obama-bad-for-Israel campaign didn't really work with Orthodox voters" is plausible, but not exclusive. There are, in any election, at least two variables--candidate A and candidate B. The evidence of Bush's pro-Israel stance may have drawn Orthodox voters away from Kerry, who was not seen as particularly anti-Israel. McCain may not have had the same clear perception of pro-Israel leanings and was only able to pull Bush-like numbers because of the fear mongering that weighted Obama's numbers down.
Add your comment remaining characters
Name and Location *

NOTE: Comments are moderated and will not appear on this blog, until they have been reviewed and deemed appropriate for posting.

For more information, please see our
Readers' Submission Policy.

E-mail * (will NOT be published)
--------------------------------
* All fields are required

Search this blog

The Israel Factor, Sep. 2009: Obama is rapidly losing favor with panel of Israeli experts

Recent Comments

Mike Feldman, Canada: Tom. In response to Rafael, you mentioned your familiarity with the leaflets, but I guess you didn't read what he said about water and food deliveries. I can see where you think if Hamas takes to hiding in civilians structures, the IDF should be obliged to wait outside until they come out and avoid property damage at all cost. It seems to me that the brave Hamas sought the protection the Geneva Conventions provides to cililians by acting as if they were civilians and hiding among civilians. You want the IDF to be responsible to the wreckless endangerment of the Gazans perpetrated by Hamas. Like Hilary RodHAM its not kosher.
Dan J USA: Tom..US 68...I heard you are trying to get a hearing on the bombing of the following cities we USA military did in WW2...Munich, Dresden, Frankfort, Berlin, Tokyo, Nagasaki, Hirsohima. Was killing all those civilians necessary to win that war. Oh well, I suppose that if a nation is attacked they should expect to be hit back ! Israel, by bashers like you is not allowed that priviledge! Aren't we in the USA fighting those same guys in Iraq and Afghanistan...By the way Tommy ole bean does the US military send out "warnings to the Taliban before attacking them. They do have e mail.
Leroy Padmore,Liberia: They called themself human watchdog,watching over what?Israel so the terroristic group should killed the jewish people?let me tell the world something these are not like the days of Hilter,no no no.if you killed a Jew, you will be kill too .if you fire rockets into Israel believed it or not Israel will hit back big time.I my wife and children love Israel to our death.we will tell it to our childrens children.every single day we pray for Israel and the peace of Jerusalem.we blessed Israel with our pray.we are standing with Israel.let the Star of David fly high.SHALOM.
Archives