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Sunday Jul 12, 2009
Rosner's Domain: 67% of Palestinians do not think Obama "will do the right thing"Posted by SHMUEL ROSNER
Comments: 27      Follow Rosner's Domain on Twitter!!! You think Israelis have little confidence in Obama? Here are some numbers from the latest PIPA survey: The Palestinians have the largest majority lacking confidence in Barack Obama to do the right thing in world affairs and are among the largest majorities that say the US abuses its greater power to get them to do what it wants. While a majority sees the US as hypocritical for promoting international laws but not following them itself, fewer hold this view than in the previous year and a significant number agree that the US does set a good example by following these laws. A majority of Palestinians (67%) say they have little or no confidence in Barack Obama to do the right thing in world affairs - only one-third (33%) express confidence. Here's the table comparing the responses in different counties:
1 | Mike Feldman, Canada, Sunday Jul 12, 2009
Interesting to note that only Kenya and Nigeria have a majority of its citizens who think U.S. treats them faiirly. Also interesting that Canada is the U.S.'s largest trading partner and not included in the survey.
2 | Sam J, Walnut Creek CA, Monday Jul 13, 2009
Also interesting to note that the reason that so many in India (which is close to evenly split) feel that is unfairlytreated--The US' special relationship with Pakistan--hasn't paid off at all
3 | Carolin U.S., Monday Jul 13, 2009
I'm pretty sure any "Palestinian" that is asked will tell you that they don't believe that anyone treats them fairly. Not Jordon, Egypt, France, Germany, Mars or their next door neighbor. This poll, and subsequent article is a waste of time, money and space.
4 | Terry - Eilat, Israel, Monday Jul 13, 2009
Can we ever get off the subject of Obama? As the Moroccan Jewish expression goes, "May his star fall ....." For G-d's sake, change the subject.
5 | Larry D.C., Monday Jul 13, 2009
Funny, we never see the "Palestinians" concerned about doing the right thing for themselves, their "people", or their children by swallowing a dose of reality. The "Palestinians" still after all these years want something handed to them which by any measure they don't deserve and certainly haven't merited. I guess that mentality is just what UNRWA and Solana of the U.N. is all about. Obama cannot do for them what they must do for themselves and impose a solution. But when have the "Palestinians" or a for that matter the majority of their Arab brothers who use them ever been pragmatic.
6 | Hofikoman, Monday Jul 13, 2009
Larry DC - Although they are not beyond expediency, the Palestinians in their core are not pragmatic. Islam is very much about abstract "good" in a Platonic sense which requires reality to conform to it, and does so through Divine Fiat. Judaism is about the "better" - ie. recognizing that there is only the overcoming of human fallibility and limitation in understanding through a relationship with HaShem mediated by Torah. Jews are hugely pragmatic, Palestinians and many Muslims, hugely dogmatic. Their sense of what is right and why is quite different than our own, despite some common values.
7 | Zvi Canada, Monday Jul 13, 2009
This is not surprising considering that Obama came right after who was quite possibly the worst president in US history. Trusting the US to do the right thing when the previous president looked the other way as more and more settlements were constructed, and endless military incursions and one sided wars is difficult, to say the least. Being squarely in Israel's pocket, and ignoring Israeli transgressions didn't help, either.
Luckily, Obama seems to be willing and capable of changing things, lets hope he stays firm on settlements and the Palestinians get their state.
Larry: Its their land
8 | Tzvi/amerikkka, Monday Jul 13, 2009
100% of real Jews do not think obama will do the right thing and support transfer of arabs out of Israel and into the artificial arab entities that britain created after wwI.
9 | psk, Monday Jul 13, 2009
A majority of Germans does not feel mistreated by the US. Generally speaking, they seem to have a sharp historical memory. They know what they owe to the US, how the US can treat a conquered enemy. Maybe the German constitution is felt to be an enduring gift, not to mention economic aid after WWII and defense of West Germany and West Berliln against the USSR and its satellites. The Palestinians have been betrayed by their "leaders", not by the US. The tragedy of the Palestinians is that so many of them believe the lies they are told. History is an unknown subect for most of them.
10 | Shel Zahav in Jerusalem, Monday Jul 13, 2009
Kenya ought to like the current president of the US since he was born there.
11 | Zvi Canada, Monday Jul 13, 2009
Tzvi/amerikkka: You mean artificial entities like Israel? They already live in a post WW2 European created fantasy land, so why move?
I would think the people that actually lived there before ww2 would have more right to the land than mostly white European settlers, and the world seems to agree.
Of course, the European settlers do not, but they have a vested insterest in constructing this fantasy of a "Greater Israel" and become a later day ME Britain complete with slaves and vassals.
12 | Mike Feldman, Canada, Monday Jul 13, 2009
Zvi, Canada. Your assessment of the realities on the ground in the Middle East is as subjectively biased as your assessment of George W. Bush. And for the sake of convenience you seem to link being a bad President and being a friend of Israel as coincident. The millitary incursions were not endless and were never initiated but rather were retaliatory. Of course they were one-sided, the Palestinians and Hizbollah should have known they would be before they started them. In time, Obama may be viewed as the worst President, and his support irrelevant. We'll see whose land it is when there is a peace agreement.
13 | Terry - Eilat, Israel, Monday Jul 13, 2009
#12 Mike Feldman, Canada. Your last line, ".....when there is a peace agreement." That was very funny. Is that a Canadian equivalent for when hell freezes over? Maybe we should change the Jewish expression, may you live for 120 years & instead say may you live until there is a peace agreement? There will never be a peace agreement in any real sense - we might, G-d forbid, sign a worthless piece of paper but we will not get peace. As long as we exist, we will have conflict. We are the front line of a Jihad against the non-Muslim world.
14 | Mike Feldman, Canada, Monday Jul 13, 2009
Terry. I don't know if you read my posts, but whenever possible, I like to inject a little humour. Sometimes I have to settle for irony. We both know that "when there is a peace agreement" and when there is peace are two different things. I was merely rebutting Zvi's(?) statement to Larry that we all know its the Palestinians' land. Let's stick with the may you live a 120 years for now. but let's stay flexible of the "live until there is a peace agreement " idea.
P.S. In Canada hell does freeze over.
15 | New York, Monday Jul 13, 2009
You see, the Palestinians want EVERYTHING and until they get EXACTLY what they want they will NEVER be happy with the West. When I say everything, this also includes the freedom to launch rockets and blow up buses whenever they feel they've been wronged somehow. Perhaps it's not Obama but the Palestinians that need to do the right thing. Israel has done enough to prove it's willing to make peace. Now it's Achmed's turn.
16 | Nenette Grunberg Florida, Tuesday Jul 14, 2009
I am not surprised but feel embarrassed to drr it in ptiny
17 | Terry - Eilat, Israel, Tuesday Jul 14, 2009
#14 Mike Feldman - Of course I read your posts. Most often humour & irony are lost on the psychotic anti-Semites who infest this site. I've come to hate the word ''peace'' - it has lost all meaning, now an empty slogan, Orwellian double-speak. So, I am sensitive when anyone uses the word.
I've been in Montreal during the winter, snowed in actually. I'll stick to Eilat.
And may you live a 120 years ......
18 | Jonah in Jamaica, Tuesday Jul 14, 2009
Terry & Mike: I enjoy your interplay.
19 | LaGrande USA, Tuesday Jul 14, 2009
#14 Mike Feldman I enjoy your "little humour" coupled with your astute distinction from "peace" & "peace agreement" your posts are usually intuitive. Now on topic: notice the close ratio of the Palestinian perception of whether the USA "abuses greater power" to the worlds overall perception of same! World opinion is "largely" anti - American and has been for some time, increasing after 1948. This President believes he can change that. I am "goy" with a blue 6 pointed star somewhere in my heart! I am also American & respect the presidential office (my candidate or not) unless he harms Israel.
20 | Mike Feldman, Canada, Wednesday Jul 15, 2009
LeGrande. Your name is the same as my favorite ZZ Top recording.
21 | betz55, Wednesday Jul 15, 2009
Wait. A jew telling me how the Palestianis think and what they are polling? Please go to Al-Jazeera, Mid-East Online, Newsweek, anything other publication than this tin cup hack of reporter. Outside Israel, Rosner has zero, let me repeat that, zero credibility for his biased ramblings. Please, a jewish hack trying to tell the world the Palestinains have no faith in Obama. Let me wipe my eyes from laughing so hard, this is just to rich. Rosner you don't have a clue.
22 | michael hanna, Wednesday Jul 15, 2009
intresting to hear the other voices of the conflict especially from some they see only from one side when they talk about the palestinians,just a reminder for this news paper readers since the creation of the jewish state in 1948 there is some millions of palestinians moslems and christians they lived in neibhouring states like lebanon,syria,jordan and beyond and they share one dream to go back to the home land,dear readers of this paper dont you think when you surounded by this realty of bitternes around you guys the time now to think how you could live in peace and in this part of the world.
23 | Mike Feldman, Canada, Wednesday Jul 15, 2009
betz55. If you hadn't been in such a hurry to crap on Jews and Rosner, and if you were smart enough to click the link in the question-"the table comparing the" you might have noticed that this blog does not represent the thoughts of Jews or Rosner. The survey was done by WorldOpinion.org and surveyed 20,000 people in 20 countries. I would hope that if Al-Jazeera carried the survey the results would have been exactly the same. Don't let this inconvenient truth stop you from proclaiming the Palestinians fatih in Obama. After all it looks like you have faith in him, and thats all that counts.
24 | andy-london, Wednesday Jul 15, 2009
The palistinians actually think?WOW.
25 | Bob USA/Argentina, Friday Jul 17, 2009
Fair? American government doesn't even treat Americans fairly. Might is right. Don't you watch Animal Planet? Human Beings are a hopeless, pathetic species that are incapable of any meaningful social advancement. What a disappointment! Nietzsche wrote that man was something that should be
overcome. That man as a race is merely a bridge between animals and the Übermensch. What's beyond man, or after man? What type of man will rise in the future? There has to be something better than man? We are all a laughingstock, and a painful embarrassment.
26 | Mike Feldman, Canada, Friday Jul 17, 2009
#25 Bob has spoken. Looks like we're all wasting our time living. Might as well pack it in and hasten the arrival of the Ubermensh. Or watch Animal Planet.
27 | Bob USA/Argentina, Saturday Jul 18, 2009
Great comeback Mike!
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