Wednesday Feb 18, 2009

Orthodox Jews should support civil marriage in Israel

Posted by Rabbi Seth (Shaul) Farber
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After years of working within the rabbinate, I'm convinced that Orthodox Jews should support some form civil marriage in Israel. In fact, Orthodox Jews should probably be at the lead of such an initiative.

In many ways, the adoption of British Mandatory law within Israeli legal culture has denigrated Judaism in the eyes of the general public. In Israel, Jews can only be married with the approval of the religious leader of their religious group, which is identified with the chief rabbinate. Since the majority of Israelis are not Orthodox, the process of marriage can be humiliating and in some cases impossible, as Orthodoxy limits legal unions. Though the majority of Israelis still marry through the rabbinate, more and more couples are choosing not to marry at all, or to marry in civil ceremonies abroad.

But the real issue is the emigration of 350,000 individuals from the former Soviet Union who do not meet the rabbinate's criterion for marriage eligibility because they are not Jewish according to the Orthodox halacha [Jewish law]. Their inability to marry has created a moral and legal problem in Israel.  Avigdor Leiberman is capitalizing on their suffering and has made the adoption of civil marriage statue a precondition to his joining a coalition in the new Israeli government.

There are three basic arguments against any civil marriage in Israel. The first states that allowing civil marriage will increase Israeli assimilation as there will no longer be a streamlined manner of attesting to Jewishness. A second argument suggests that civil marriage will create more mamzerim in Israel (i.e., those who cannot marry in traditional ceremonies because they are Jewish children born of an illicit sexual relationship), because individuals will choose to divorce outside the rabbinate. Finally, many argue that streamlined marriage through the rabbinate enhances the Jewish character of the State.

In today's society, none of these arguments really holds up. People aren't assimilating any less because of Jewish marriage. In fact, the disaffection that the rabbinate has created is gradually leading more and more people away from adopting traditional Jewish lifestyles. Civil marriage will not necessarily create more problems of mamzeirut. In fact, in many respects civil marriage will help resolve many cases of mamzeirut as there are halachic opinions that argue that children born from women who were married she-lo kedat moshe V'yisrael [according to the religion of Moses and Israel] - are not illegitimate. Finally, given where the Jewish character of the state of Israel is today, I'm not convinced that the particular character of Judaism in Israel is something worth preserving.

But even if one disagrees with my analysis, I think there are good reasons to adopt some form of civil marriage now. First of all, it is an absurdity that thousands of citizens (who don't meet the halachic criteria of Jewishness) cannot marry in Israel. I don't think of myself as being permissive in family law, but rather as being particularly strict  in kavod habriyot. Individuals who don't meet the rabbinate's bar should be given basic rights to marry, in a civil court, just as they can - at present- be divorced in a civil court. I certainly don't want to advocate inter-marriage, but if two non-Jews who are citizens of Israel want to be married, they should be able to.

Moreover, I think allowing for an option of civil union will enhance the prestige of the rabbinate, and hopefully, will encourage it to provide more user-friendly services. 

To be sure, many rabbinates have undergone radical transformations in the last few years, in order to respond to the less traditional character of the population. But a more user-friendly approach would radically change the attitude of the rank and file to the religious establishment.

I think there is a simple model that could be adopted as a beginning stage, which would not prove particularly controversial. In Israel today, non-Jewish couples, upon demonstrating their lack of Jewish ethnicity, go to family courts for divorce. I believe strongly that a similar model ought be initiated by the Orthodox for marriage of two non-Jews. This would pare down the problems of the rabbinic monopoly considerably, and provide an honorable solution to the plight of many.

At present, the notion of civil unions is simply being used for political ends. But there are real issues at stake, and when people's basic rights hang in the balance, one cannot afford to be silent.

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1  |   Ezra Levy, Brooklyn NY, Wednesday Feb 18, 2009 It is surely a sad day when a "rabbi" is willing to disregard the Torah because it is a sign of the times. Rabbi Farber presents political and social reasons and argues that Orthodox Jews turn our backs on the teachings of the Talmud so that non-religous Israelis feel more comfortable. A grater danger is that many who support civil marriage are indeed, not Jewish. Yet, this "rabbi" will create a situation were a goyah can essentially intermarry with a Yehud and bring another goy through intermarriage!What's next Rabbi Farber? Asking Orthodx Jews to condone homosexuals marriage as well?! CV
2  |   David Columbia, Maryland USA, Thursday Feb 19, 2009 Rabbi, thank you for showing some common sense! I personally would prefer to see Israeli law allow legal marriages by Orthodox, Conservative and Reform Rabbis, but in the absense of a consensus on this I believe that allowing for civil marriage would give intermarrieds and the Israeli non-Orthodox public a chance to marry in dignity without being forced to leave their home country. I personally believe that love will always win out over halacha when it comes to marriage. Israel has become a "melting pot" and like it or not the Israeli public (and Rabbinate) can't hide from this fact.
3  |   Yaffa Jerusalem, Thursday Feb 19, 2009 I completely agree with Rabbi Farber's position. I would only add that Yisrael Beiteinu's advocacy of civil unions is not insincere. Beiteinu MK David Rotem, a religious Zionist, has spearheaded the campaign for civil unions out of compassion for the individuals suffering under the monopoly of the rabbinic courts and for a love of Judaism, which cannot bear to see Jewish law as a cause for the suffering of inidividuals.
4  |   Sholmo Zvi, Thursday Feb 19, 2009 TO Ezra Levy, The Torah does not specifically state anywhere that matrilineal descent should be used to define who is a jew. In fact if you look at the history of why jews use that standard it actually dates back to the time of Roman occupation and the Romans used that definition for their census! Please don't quote Deuteronomy 7:1-5, or Leviticus 24:10, or Ezra 10:2-3 because they do not specifically say that the mother has to be a jew for you to be considered a jew, the are vague at best! I hope Israel allows civil marriages!
5  |   MG, NJ, USA, Thursday Feb 19, 2009 What happens when 2 baalei tshuva want to marry, then find out that either one of their parents or grandparents never had a proper Jewish wedding? Or that one of them is the product of a civil marriage between a Kohen and a divorcee? I gotta go with poster #1 on this....
6  |   Norb, Thursday Feb 19, 2009 I am not Charedi but at least I can see their point now against lowereing the standards which Rabbi Farber is publicly in favour of now. Why didn't Rabbi Farber raise a ruckus back then not to let in hundreds of thousands of non-Jews. o Like the Reform, Conservative and unfortunately now Orthodox Rabbi Farber all want the easy way out, themselves never fighting till the end for upholding Jewish halachic principles, something they can learn from the Chareidim i.e. no compromise on lowering Jewish halachic standards just because it's the easiy way out.
7  |   Shlomo, Thursday Feb 19, 2009 MG: Nothing happens. In halacha, whether parents are married or not has no effect on their children's status.
8  |   Shaul, Israel, Thursday Feb 19, 2009 Here's another Orthodox Jew for civil marriage. (1) Any Jew who wants to have a religious marriage will still do so. (2) You're not going to stop people who are halachically forbidden to marry; if they choose, they will live together no matter what you do. (3) The divorce rate among secular couples is over 50%. Why force them to have a halachic marriage when they're more likely than not going to separate - and if they don't care to get a halachic divorce (which is WAY more difficult than a halachic marriage), then we get problems of mamzerim!
9  |   yochanan, chicago, Thursday Feb 19, 2009 The answer is simple. ALL divorce and marriiage in the state of Israel MUST be under the Jurisdiction of the Rabbinate. Non Jews would be able to marry Non Jews, and intermarriage would never be permitted.The first stage is to clarify and emend the "who is a Jew" issue so that Halacha (Torah Law) is the decisor. The rest is just logistics
10  |   Michael, Thursday Feb 19, 2009 Unfortuneatly it is not only civil marige that the Orthodox in israel disregad, Orthodox Jews should support full religous freedom in Israel. Allowing a progressive Jew to get married in Israel, and to have funds for the recognized rabbis, and to pray at the kotel, and to eat unkosher food in public and not keep shabbat tradtions in public, allowing them to do all of these things does not infringe on the freedom of the Orthodox community. Just like the Orthodox should be allowed their pots and pans and swinging chickens, so should progressives be allowed their milk and meat and female rabbis.
11  |   Michal Schwartz, Friday Feb 20, 2009 Ezra, When you agree to protest civil marriage in the US for the same reasons stated in your argument, then i will listen....until then, democracy means freedom of religion as well as freedom FROM religion. a frum resident of Ramat Bet Shemesh A
12  |   Tom Toronto, Friday Feb 20, 2009 You call yourself a "Rabbi"? With all due respect - none-whatsoever, let me a non-Rabbi, attempt to teach the Rabbi a simple Torah lesson. The Torah is an eternal document and covenant between G-d and the Jewish people. Eternal means that it is not subject to your conveniences or professed adaptations to modernity. Once you disavow this or that, it's not Torah from Sinai, it's Torah of Rabbi Farber. You want to start your own religion, be my guest. Just don't corrupt mine that has stayed the Jewish people for the past 3,300 years.
13  |   moshe betzalel, MN, USA, Friday Feb 20, 2009 Marriage,divorce, and conversion were very simple in biblical times. They have become very complicated since then. The rabbinate has acquired monopolies over these important interpersonal transactions. Look at the marriages of the patriarchs, look at Ruth's conversion. They didn't have a bunch of hurdles and ceremonies. It is time to get back to basics. Please see my website: backtobasicsjudaism.com.
14  |   DJStahl, Friday Feb 20, 2009 It's disputed whether two secular Jews joined in a non-Orthodox ceremony are married per halachah. If they remain joined, it doesn't matter. If they divorce, and the woman doesn't remarry, it doesn't matter. Worst case is if they divorce and the woman remarries. Then it would be better if the initial non-Orthodox union weren't defined as halachic marriage. Apart from this scenario, there seems little problem with allowing civil marriage. Despite lack of personal religious conviction, the first husband could be forced by the state to write a halachic get, even in a civil divorce.
15  |   DJStahl, USA, Friday Feb 20, 2009 Re #5 if their parents didn't have a "proper Jewish wedding," what difference would that make? If the man is the offspring of a Kohen and a divorcee, he's chalal. But he's permitted to marry. If a woman is the offspring of a Kohen and a divorcee -- and wishes to marry a Kohen in a civil ceremony...there aren't many situations where civil marriage would be a problem. As one Israeli pointed out, when Rav Amar favored this, there'd need to be a "sefer yuchsin" if descendants wanted to marry into the religious community. This might develop two castes of Jews in Israel. As may be happening in US.
16  |   Tzoorba, USA, Friday Feb 20, 2009 Every Orthodox Jew has the obligation to do all in their power to prevent a forbidden marriage but not by force. It means that some effort should be made to try to convince the parties in involved that it is not a good thing that they are doing. Additionally, no sincere Orthodox Rabbi should officiate at or support an illegal marriage. There is one issue to note. If civil marriage is allowed which will lead to questions of mamzerus and non Jewish status, it will cause a split in the Jewish people. No Orthodox person will marry anyone without ironclad proof that they are kosher.
17  |   BJL, USA, Friday Feb 20, 2009 Can't do that. It is the Camel's nose under the tent or the slippery slope if you will. Halacah should take precedence over modernities up's and downs. The 350,000 need to follow the rules like everyone else. Why make exceptions? It just leads to further disorder.
18  |   Sharon, Friday Feb 20, 2009 Common sense indeed. Parents of marriageable children will have to investigate the Jewishness of prospective partners, just as they ought to investigate matters of character and conduct. But that is a small price to pay compared to the rampant distaste for Orthodoxy among Jews and non-Jews alike here in Israel.
19  |   Simcha Shaulson, Friday Feb 20, 2009 Official state recognition of civil marriage in Israel between a Jew and non-Jew sends a message of defeatism to Jewish communities throughout the world where the Jewish People is fighting for its life against the plague of intermarriage.
20  |   AZK, Efrat, Friday Feb 20, 2009 To Ezra Levy and MG, What happens in America? People who are concerned with keeping halacha properly do so. People who are not concerned with this have other options. How is allowing people who in all other ways do not keep mitzvot to marry "turning our backs on the Torah" exactly? By not forcing halacha upon those who do not want it? Rabbi Farber's point about mamzerim is important. Civil marriages, accroding to Rav Moshe Feinstein, have no halachic validity, and, thus do not require a kosher get= no mamzerut issue. Last,how is forcing religion upon someone making the Torah more appealing?
21  |   Gila, Friday Feb 20, 2009 Civil marriages should be alowed but with the condition that there should be more judaic studies in schools, that way one will counter balance the other. People should have the option of making an informed decision on how getting married civil and not religios will impact their lives down the road.
22  |   Hakan Johansson, Stockholm, Friday Feb 20, 2009 #1. Why shouldn't also gay people allow to marry? I can't see it's a threat to anyone if two people of same sex who love each other have the possibility to live in a marriage, sanctioned by society and religion.
23  |   Leaky Kaburu- Nairobi, Kenya, Friday Feb 20, 2009 naomi pollock of jpost subscription centre (jerusalem), my eyes behold the day when you shall accept my proposal and say yes. you are the gr8 girl and friend. thanks LOVE L
24  |   Shalom, Cherry Hill, NJ, Friday Feb 20, 2009 To Ezra Levy and MG: Please note that in the 2nd to last paragraph Rabbi Farber specifically noted that when "NON-Jewish couples, upon demonstrating their LACK of Jewish ethnicity, go to family courts"... they can then get a civil divorce, so should also be able to get a civil marriage. Please tell me how this could lead to a kohen marrying a divorced woman, a mamzer, or intermarriage, since all of them involve at least one Jewish partner, which his propsal excludes. Shalom
25  |   Michael, Saturday Feb 21, 2009 As long as the rabbanut has control over matters of personal status, the religious will remain suspect. We all know of people who were declared "Kasher le Mehadrin" after making a sizable contribution to an appropriate "charity". How can one respect anyone who supports a system that demands bribes of those who would avoid the humiliation of proving that they are "really" Jewish? It often appears that the religious establishment is more interested in power than in morality. Dat Moshe veYisrael should be an inclusive ethical standard, not a source of power and money.
26  |   Jana, Saturday Feb 21, 2009 I find the laws particularly egregious because young people of today often had grandparents trying to marry during or right after WWII when their only choice was civil marriage if they lived behind the Iron Curtain. Where is Compassion in our religion?
27  |   Norman)Noach) bright, Saturday Feb 21, 2009 In my opinion Israel is such a corrupt society that the rabbinate are no more than a catspaw. In seems that every time a Jew wants help or justic which involves the bureaucracy he is forced to jump through hoops. I experienced outrageous behavious from th Jewish Agency and was treated like dirt. can you wonder that so few Jews leave england for israel. I feel very sorry for youngsters who want to get married. On balnce they should go to england or any country in europe and tell the rabbinate to take a running jump.
28  |   Beverly L. Toronto, Sunday Feb 22, 2009 The Vad Harabanim have shown incredible disrespect to other rabbis, demonstrated rigidity with respect to conversions both of young children and of soldiers, the incomprehensible treatment of agunahs etc. This behaviour leads one to believe that their focus is on creating a tight knit community of their own and everyone else be damned. This is not the essence of Judaism. Why do we bother reading the book of Ruth at Shavuot if we are so cruel to converts. The Vad needs to focus on enriching Am Yisroel and being more inclusive, then you would not need civil marriages.
29  |   Manuel, Buenos Aires, Argentina, Sunday Feb 22, 2009 It is the opposite, if you give the chance to people to marry acording to Jewish tradition, there is a greater chance that from then on, they will turn their marriages into Jewish homes, and their children continue the Judaism chain on and on. I found hard to believe as I have read some time ago that an American Jewish immigrant to Israel who served in the Israeli Army to protect the State, could not marry because he could not provide proper evidence of his Jewish condition as their parents could not find back in America their ketuba. Stop the religious monopoly watchdog for marriage
30  |   Robin Margolis, Washington, DC, Tuesday Feb 24, 2009 Rabbi Farber states: "I certainly don't want to advocate inter-marriage, but if two non-Jews who are citizens of Israel want to be married, they should be able to." These people are half-Jewish, with a Jewish father or patrilneal grandfather. Are you not aware that the Nazi allowed adult children of intermarriage to marry only each other? Why should Israel treat us in the same way? As head of the Half-Jewish Network, I am horrified.
31  |   Cember, Tuesday Feb 24, 2009 Marriage is a contract between individuals & society. A spouse has certain rights & obligations under civil law that are independent of religious rights & duties. In order to secure those rights & responsibilities vis-a-vis the state, many countries REQUIRE civil marriage, but PERMIT religious marriage. If Israel would adopt a civil marriage requirement, then people could gain rights of, for example, inheritence, spousal access to medical records, the decision on when to pull the plug, etc. Religious marriage should be a voluntary matter, subject only to religious requirements & beliefs.
32  |   Al Strap, Wednesday Mar 18, 2009 If this column is indicative, "UNorthodox opinions" would be a more appropriate title for this blog. Rabbi Weinreb, who formerly wrote here and is very representative of mainstream Orthodox Jewish thought, surely disarees with most of what Rabbi Farber has said herein. Recalling that "ortho dox" means "true belief", it is a crying shame that it took The Post over a year to find a poor replacement for Rabbi Weinreb; a replacement that fails to present the true beliefs and beautiful philosophies of Orthodox Judaism. Rabbi Weinreb: we miss you!
33  |   Tony South Africa, Friday Apr 24, 2009 Orthodoxy limits legal unions.... A SAD DAY INDEED. I would say that the Phd 'Rabbi' is lost.
34  |   Steve, Wednesday Apr 29, 2009 Marriage is a blessed moment and in Judaism is encourage. Not only to last ' till death do us part'. But to honor and reverence GOD within. The problem with civil marriage is not that it cannot fulfill the above. But rather, that civil marriages and civil law allows ISRAEL to fall into such waywardness as in the past. " TO BE LIKE OTHER NATIONS". For civil law allows such abominable marriages as America and other nations.Such that lead to the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah. However, the problem with the Rabbinical councils is too much selfishness and greed and not GODLY WISDOM.
35  |   Tash, London, Wednesday Apr 29, 2009 One would think that considering the few people who get married and stay married that people would be happy to encourage marriage.
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