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Sunday Feb 24, 2008
Building Bridges: Time is not on our side Posted by Yariv Oppenheimer
Comments: 44
At a time when the government of Israel is dragging its feet and essentially dissolving all efforts to reach a permanent agreement with the Palestinians, in international public opinion the idea of the division of the land into two states is becoming irrelevant. In its place is the vision of a bi-national state, which in practice would mean the end of Zionism. This month, for the fourth year, 'Israel Apartheid Week' will take place in campuses across Canada, Europe and for the first time, in the US. This "week" is dedicated completely to portraying Israel as the South Africa of the 21st century. In the 'Hasbara' framework of Hillel Canada - which acts on campuses across the nation in order to promote Israel's stance and the position of the Jewish people in the student battle between Jews and non-Jews - I had the opportunity to attend Apartheid Week. I tried to pass on to the students an image of Israel other than the one associated with the conflict. I discovered that it is not just pro-Palestinian and Islamic organizations that head the battle. This year, many other organizations and academics who think that the founding of the Jewish State is principally flawed, attended. The difficult images that the occupation produces in the territories only exacerbate the situation with shocking examples from the field. The anti-Zionist approach that equates Zionism with racism is applied with renewed vigor. Pro-Palestinian movements have understood that in order to be victorious over Zionist movements, they must promote and aim for a bi-national state from the Jordan River to the Mediterranean; a democratic state, a state of all its citizens, devoid of Jewish character. In accordance with this vision, after such a state is founded and after elections take place, Palestinians would win a majority in Parliament and in a fully democratic manner, would change the immigration laws to Israel which currently allow full immigration to Jews only. In doing so, without violence and without struggle, the enemies of Zionism would succeed in obtaining their goal and would turn Israel into a country that both the Palestinian people and the Jewish people call home. The attempt to portray Israel as South Africa does not derive solely from the existing situation in the territories but also from the ambition to impact any future solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. Israel's operations in the territories, the continuation of the occupation, the expansion of settlements and the construction of the fence along the Green Line, all play into the hands of those who oppose Zionism and reinforces the support of the campaign against Israel. Nowadays, the list of qualities attributed to an enlightened, liberal student includes supporting the fight for the environment, the battle against globalization, and the fight against Israel and the Zionist movement. Opposing Israel has become something of a fashion trend and posters depicting the situation in the territories have become very popular. Time is not on our side. Every passing day only puts more distance between us and the two-state solution and hurts Israel's image and reputation. It further reinforces the support for a bi-national state solution. The damage to Israel and to Jewish communities worldwide continues to worsen and is exacerbated by the increased support of the anti-Zionists whose stance gains legitimacy day by day. As long as Israel keeps dragging its feet in negotiating a political agreement with the Palestinians, international support for a bi-national state will continue to grow. The State of Israel is perceived today as the 'updated' version of South Africa in which a rich Jewish minority rules undemocratically over a poor and repressed Palestinians majority. Without a political breakthrough, the world will force Israel to annex the territories and provide citizenship to the millions of Palestinians living there. In turn, this will bring the Zionist dream to an end.
1 | Maurice in Brazil, Tuesday Feb 26, 2008
The theme is real and important. Building Brigdes I think of General Ariel Sharon not is correct in bilding an wall very very high not is necessary an wall very high but an little wall of 20 centimetres of height, he error about the height.
2 | Ben Israel-Israel, Tuesday Feb 26, 2008
Oppenheimer is wrong as usual. TIME IS WORKING IN ISRAEL'S FAVOR. The Arab countries are falling further and further behind Israel technologically, socially, economically (and this includes the oil-rich states). In any event, Oppenheimer seems to think that making peace is in Isarel's hands, but it is not. The Arabs have no desire to make peace, Alon Liel, a close friend of Yossi Belin said that Egypt opposes ANY peace agreement between Israel and the Palestinians because they view it as strengthening Israel's position in the Middle East.
3 | Owen UK, Tuesday Feb 26, 2008
A good piece. As a Brit with long standing interest in the Isr-Pal conflict I am constantly exasperated by lack of progress in resolving 40+y conflict. It seems to me that Israels' long-time and long-term strategy is essentially to stall any peace agreement indefinately. Judging by the many of the comments published on this site (eg http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1203847462945&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull) lots of people seem content with the No Peace option.
4 | Owen UK, Tuesday Feb 26, 2008
But what I don't get is what is their vision for Isr in 50y? Is it to have a small country, hemmed in by wall, surrounded by impoverished, angry people living in ghettos & bantustans, secure only by expensive high tech military. What kind of a future is this? It can't be sustainable.
5 | Shmuel, Jerusalem, Tuesday Feb 26, 2008
I agree, time is not on our side. As long as we have fifth-column organizations such as "Peace-Now" subverting the State of Israel, we are on a slippery slope.
6 | Owen UK, Tuesday Feb 26, 2008
Isr needs to prepare itself to make hard concessions. Difficult to do for the side with all the power. So many Israelis seem so swollen by hatred for Pals, that they find any kind of concession (even sitting down to talk about Peace) repellent. See hysterical reaction to Costa Rica. While this is prevalent attitude there can never be peace, and Isr has no prospect of a normal existence ever in the future.
7 | Yonatan, Israel, Tuesday Feb 26, 2008
Response to Owen #3, #4 and #6
It seems you don't see a need for the Arabs to make any concession and agree with the UN decision of 60 years ago that Jews, as a recognizable nation without a country, get their country back. The fact that no Arab country ever recognized Israel's existence until this moment is surely the biggest stumbling block. The Palestinians are not a separate nation or people by any definition of the word. Israel's concessions have been to absorb THOUSANDS of rockets aimed at civilian centers.
8 | Yonatan, Israel, Tuesday Feb 26, 2008
Continued:
The Arab aim is the obliteration of Israel, as they state very plainly. Only the Israelis talk of peace and practice restraint unheard of by any other sovereign nation on this planet. Ask your grandparents how much they liked the V1 bombs in the 1940s and what your (?) country did about a nation that made claim to supremacy in the world by violent means. By either of Oppenheimer's choices, Israel will quickly cease to exist. By standing up against terrorism and evil, the entire world will be stronger.
9 | Y. Kreminsky, Jerusalem ISRAEL, Tuesday Feb 26, 2008
Time is definitely not on the side of "Peace Now" -- nor is a "bi-national" state in the cards, either. Oppenheimer's worry is that Israel has so far withstood -- albeit barely, but withstood nevertheless -- every attempt to set up a "Palestinian state", divide Jerusalem, or otherwise commit suicide. Time is on Israel's side, with Israelis visibly losing patience with "Peace Now" and other defeatists.
10 | John, Spain, Tuesday Feb 26, 2008
Given this approach the only solution for world peace will be to roll over and die. Because that is all that will be acceptable to stop the conflict with an empowered totalitarian entity.
11 | Etoile Montreal, Canada, Tuesday Feb 26, 2008
One thing is for certain. Israel would have alot more time on their side if such traitorous organizations like Peace Now were to be dismantled. Oppenheimer is nothing but a foreign agent, that is fueled by EU interests, to compromise Israel's position without any consequence for him and his ilk. However I find solace in the fact that more and more people are visibly showing a dislike for Peace Now, even the Hebronite Arabs that they claim to be "protecting."
12 | Benny Z USA, Tuesday Feb 26, 2008
I agree with yonathan poster #7 and 8. Peace Now? Yeah, with who? I'm glad the "other" Oppenheimer helped invent the A bomb. It helped the USA win ww2. This "Oppie" peacenik thinks we Jews can teach the true anti-Semite to love us. Never! What Israel has to do is be alert 24/7. Cease fire is only for the muslim terrorists sake. I notice that Hamas guys don't ride around in cars anymore. "Never Again"!
13 | Sam Hyman, Tuesday Feb 26, 2008
Try responding to emails sent to you Yariv
14 | JJ, Tuesday Feb 26, 2008
Chutzpah is killing your parents and then asking for mercy because you are an orphan. Or, spreading anti-Israel propaganda in Europe and the USA (as Peace Now has been doing for years) and then telling Israelis to beware the effects of this propaganda.
To the point: Oppenheimer isolates one phenomenon (anti Israel sentiment on campuses) and tries to convince us to act based on this alone. But many other processes are going on at the same time, and some of them are very favorable to Israel.
15 | JJ, Tuesday Feb 26, 2008
(continued)
For example, concern about the environment may mean that oil is banned or heavily taxed, reducing the income of the Arab States. Another example is the way our Arab friends are making themselves hated in Europe and the USA through terrorism and other outrageous behavior. Finally the growing importance of Israel in the knowledge economy and hi-tech industry is bound to have political consequences.
There is no rule book to winning a conflict where one has a 50-to-1 disadvantage. Both the "Peace Now!" and Right Wing solutions are illusory. The only plan is to persevere.
16 | DJStahl USA, Tuesday Feb 26, 2008
Call for Jimmy Carter -- in his recent book he said Israel is _not_ an apartheid state -- w/in the Green Line. Seems he somehow favors a Jewish state. He could speak up for Israel at these events.
Re #7 -- Israel is formally recognized by Egypt and Jordan, about half the Arab world by population. Others like Qatar, Algeria, and Pakistan, have tacit relations.
Re #4 -- Israel _is_ the Bantustan, w/in the Arab nation and the Muslim community. And given the demands of shari'a for dhimma, this probably is the best solution from both perspectives.
17 | Nach, Wednesday Feb 27, 2008
For the Umpteenth time, yet another Jewish apologist preaching self defeatism to his own too scared to even mention kassam missiles from an enemy decocratically elected by the masses to fight Israel until ALL of Israel is surrendered to them.
18 | Josh San Diego, Wednesday Feb 27, 2008
the author is wrong, ive seen this terrible week held in southern california, albeit low key, in 2006
19 | Gary USA, Wednesday Feb 27, 2008
Israel SHOULD annex the west bank and offer the Arabs living there full citizenship by period certain. Having Arabs as citizens of Israel is the only way Israel can survive.. You will notice that the Arabs and Druze currently living in ISrael are much less radicalized than those living in Gaza and The West Bank. Israel should not deny citizenship to Arabs because of the demographic threat; that is a threat to all western democracies currently. The answer is re-educating Arab to be tolerant. We see what isolating the West Bank and Gaza got Israel; Hamas and Fatah.
20 | Joe Klein, Wednesday Feb 27, 2008
Looks like Mr. Peace Now got some of his friends to help him out today. Owen go back to your Foreign Ministry job and worry about the UK. Your employee Yael needs to learn about history and the rights of the Jewish people.
21 | David, Israel, Wednesday Feb 27, 2008
#01
First, I'd like to say hello. I'd also like to say we need peace. Now. But not just now. We need a lasting peace (and here I begin to disagree with some).
I would like to have all the power. Unfortunately, I don't. I do not hate Arabs. I think Arabs are a cousin people, related to my own. One day, this conflict will end and Arabs will live in peace with us. They in their land as we live in ours. Peace is a good thing(tm).....
22 | David, Israel, Wednesday Feb 27, 2008
#2
Israel has already made many, many concessions during its short life as a state. Our cousins say they want peace but repeatedly violate peace agreements and try to pose as the weaker side who "wants peace". All this while attacking us. Many people around the world have been misled by Arab propaganda. Some Israelis being the most affected
Still we need a solution that could bring about lasting peace. Peace now and peace tomorrow and the day after. Check these sites www.hayozma.org (the Israeli initiative) www.emigrations.net (yes, some Arabs want to get out. Let's help them)......
23 | David, Israel, Wednesday Feb 27, 2008
#3
By the way, Owen, what should we have done by British standards? I remember the British bombed Dresden *in an act of revenge*. Not while being attacked by the Germans.....
Time is not on our side. That's true. We could have ended this conflict 40 years ago, by affirming our sovereignty over Judea and Samaria and repatriating our Arab cousins to their land -Arabia. Did we not welcome hundreds of thousands Jewish refugees? Arabs could.....
24 | David, Israel, Wednesday Feb 27, 2008
#4
...have done the same. It would have been difficult 40 years ago. It is more difficult now and if it is not done NOW, it will be more difficult 20 years from now.
We have 27000km2 Our cousins have 2000000km2 of land. If I was PM, I would offer help to rellocate them. To help building cities for them, to help them make the desert bloom. For peace and prosperity and trade and progress. We living in our land and they in their land. Consider it. www.hayozma.org
25 | Nick Stuart, Wednesday Feb 27, 2008
The blogger seems to be smelling the coffee quite clearly. So...what's his response to the charge of obvious similarities to the other apartheid state created in 1948? Could it be...?...that the demented (and otherwise discarded) racist doctrine of Herzel was only given impetus and permanently revolving credit by the most heinous crime in modern history? Do two wrongs always make a right? (S'over, folks, go home...)
26 | Gene, Wednesday Feb 27, 2008
why don't you work for haaretz where you really belong
27 | karen US/Australia, Wednesday Feb 27, 2008
Never mind time - it's you and your group that is not on our side. If you were you'd remember the Bible where is clearly stated G-d gave Israel not Palestine to the Jews. Do us all a favor and go live with your friends in Gaza.
28 | walid, Wednesday Feb 27, 2008
we say that from along time ago, you have live as two nations in one country
that's the soluotion as the white book says
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