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Tuesday Oct 07, 2008
Building Bridges: King David for the Occupation Posted by Yariv Oppenheimer
Comments: 35
In recent weeks, the Yesha Council (Council of Jewish Communities of Judea, Samaria and the Gaza Strip) launched a new campaign by the name of "Yehuda and Shomron - Every Jew's story". This name was used in order to blur any political elements and to provide the campaign with an educational character. Advertisements and commercials bear the signature of a new organization from the creative offices of the Yesha Council called "Yehuda and Shomron - Hasbara Center". In the framework of this campaign, biblical heroes and legendary figures were recruited to participate in the debate on the fate of the settlements; from King David and Yehuda the Maccabi to Rachel and Shmuel the Prophet, all were called aboard to fight for the vision of Greater Israel and the continuation of the Israeli occupation of the territories. In this campaign, settlers present Judea and Samaria as an inseparable part of Israel, like the Negev or the Galil. In these ads, there are no Palestinians, no roadblocks, no military occupation and no terror. According to the Yesha Council, Bethlehem is a Jewish city devoid of Palestinians and the West Bank is available land, just waiting for the Jewish people. Beyond this attempt to beautify the ugly reality and to paint a picture based on a lie, settler leaders are trying - with the encouragement of Jewish and Christian supporters abroad - to weave a religious character into the political struggle on the fate of settlements, which leaves no room for rational compromise. Instead of addressing the fate of the territories and the millions of Palestinians living there as a political issue, settlers are focusing on religious elements and are trying to turn the matter into a religious-halachic issue This very attempt deprives every person of faith from making an opposing decision by painting it as seemingly against Jewish law and making the idea of the two state solution a sin against Judaism This monopolization of the religion and the attempt to instill religious elements into the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is a dangerous undertaking which can lead to extremism and bloodshed. When a rabbi becomes a statesman and religious text becomes law, democracy loses its authority and in the name of G-d, opposition to the withdrawal from the territories is allowed by any means necessary. On the Palestinian side, there are also those who choose to evoke religion as an excuse to not recognize the right of Israel to exist. In opposition to the government of Mahmoud Abbas who sees the conflict with Israel as a political conflict solvable by political compromise, Hamas leaders continue the mantra that the link between Islam and all Israeli territory is historic and religious and that no Palestinian has the authority to give up any part of the land. With them, like with us, the link between religion and political conflict encourages violence and violates the authority of the chosen government to negotiate and compromise. No one objects to the fact that the West Bank holds religious and halachic importance for the Jewish people. Nonetheless, the continued occupation by Israel of the territories and of the population there is against the Zionist dream based on a Jewish democratic state. Additionally, the occupation and the oppression of another people is not in line with Jewish values which are based on the respect of human rights, the quest for peace and the sanctity of human life. Yesha's broadcasts of wide open spaces with a view, 'country' ambiance and feelings of spirituality and utopia lack the dangerous warning at the end, like in ads for cigarettes: continued occupation and settlement expansion is like a cancer in the heart of our people and can lead to the disintegration of the Zionist enterprise.
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Myer Rosen, Toronto, Canada,
Tuesday Oct 07, 2008
Yariv Oppenheimer is shockingly true to the Political Zionist ideal of Theodore Herzl through to David Ben-Gurion. They thought that the only solution to ending persecution of Jews was to put an end to Jewish distinctiveness, to Jewish identity. Herzl's "Judenstaat" ("State for the Jews", not "Jewish State") was a machine to "re-educate" Jews into non-Jews, as he illustrated in the book "Altneuland". Ben-Gurion cut off Yemenite peyos. So, of course Oppenheimer wants to sever the Jewish roots in Judea-Samaria. Such roots hinder the eradication of Jewish identity in the State of Israel.
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Uri , Netanya,
Tuesday Oct 07, 2008
Yariv, get a day job. If you had an ounce of religion in you, you would be helping Judea and Samaria instead of trying to destroy it.
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Rachel, Tel Aviv, Israel,
Tuesday Oct 07, 2008
This is a good article that provides some sanity to the religious fanaticism that has characterized the Yesha leadership for several decades. Their current public relations campaign is just a sign of the declining support among Israelis for the West Bank settlements. Times have changed, and the Israeli public is now much more pragmatic. As many former Likudniks now admit, "Greater Israel" is not an achievable goal. In fact, the pursuit of a Greater Israel is more of a danger to Israel than the threat from our surrounding neighbors. Most Israelis understand that now.
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Ben.Ami, Tel Aviv, Israel,
Tuesday Oct 07, 2008
A pretty fair analysis. Myer Rosen's comment is a good example of the religious fanaticism mentioned by Rachel of Tel Aviv, and it's the kind of rhetoric we keep hearing from the Yesha people. It is not a question of "severing Jewish roots" in the West Bank, -- we also have Jewish roots in Persia, Sinai, and Egypt. This is not the time for religious zealots that will once again bring destruction and dispersion on Israel as they did throughout Jewish history. This is the time for brains to triumph over fantasy. Let's end these crazy visions of grandeur before they destroy us. Enough is enough!
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Arkady, Los Angeles, USA,
Tuesday Oct 07, 2008
So what, you publish only "politically correct" from your point of view comments?
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Nach, Israel,
Tuesday Oct 07, 2008
I guess by not publishing talkbacks from the righ like I earlier sent you democracy to you is strictly in preaching not at all in practice.
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Michael Dar -Arad -Israel,
Tuesday Oct 07, 2008
Mrs. Rachel..Declining support! ..If anything it is those "Instant-Peace" movements who have been on the decline for quite a long time now notwithstanding the massive financial support by scores of foreign interests. More and more sane Israelis don't buy all those deceptive so-called peace initiatives anymore. Those leftist doves (roast-chickens) live in a fantasy world and pretend not to hear the Arab religious and political leadership's call for Jihad and the annihilation of the Jewish state. Hamas, Hisbollah, Fatah, al-Qaida, Iran, Syria, Egypt etc..haven all the same objective destroy us!
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alun london,
Tuesday Oct 07, 2008
you are the one wiith the religous belief which is a two state solution will lead peace .The facts over the last thirty years prove the inescapable fact that every peace process leads to war e.g peace with Egypt enabled arms smuggling into Gaza and peace with Jordan cost 50 million metres of water Yaalon said that the peace process puts wind in the sails of extremists and encourages them that violence pays i believe military pressure teaches the extremists that violence can only lead to death and destruction this encourages the moderates Arabs to destroy thier extremist and seek peace
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Hizkiya Gerez Rotterdam The Netherlands,
Tuesday Oct 07, 2008
The return of the Jewish people to the promised land after 2000 years and the victories over far stronger enemies is a miracle and is the result the of the promise of the Almighty.
Israel without G-d can never stand in face of the enemies aiming at its destruction.
If you do not want to be Jewish why to have a Jewish state.
Have you not learned that out of the Holy land you have Pogroms and The Holocaust.Why this should be different now?
Open your eyes and see the reality.
Be thankful to God!!!
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Narcis, Los Angeles,
Wednesday Oct 08, 2008
Don't forget Leviticus 19:34 'The stranger who resides with you shall be to you as the native among you, and you shall love him as yourself, for you were aliens in the land of Egypt; I am the Lord your G-d." Would you like to have your land decreed away, and your rights ignored?
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Jan Henriksen, Australia,
Wednesday Oct 08, 2008
The divide emerging in Israel is becoming more evident between secular and religious. And the divisive issue emerging is 'whose land?' It seems the secular have no basis for believing a right to any land, whereas the religious see the land of King David as their heritage. Would the divide be 2/3 secular and 1/3 religious? If it is, according to the prophet Zechariah, the 1/3 will go through a refining process...and the 2/3 well... if they don't read the prophets, they don't need to know.
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Nissim Alcabes, Lima, Perú,
Wednesday Oct 08, 2008
The Jewish People is the only one that during almost 2000 years of forced dispersion, always prayed to go back to the Land where it develooped a culture for more than 1000 years. Israel is a territory of barely 30 000 sq. kms. vis a vis 10 000 000 of the Arab countries. Just because of equity, there is no reason for dividing the land between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean Sea.
Arab people living in Israel enjoy fully their human rights. Almost no Jew was allowed to remain in Arab countries.
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KIM DIAZ portland oregon,
Wednesday Oct 08, 2008
please dont give any more of your land away they wont be happy with that they want to destroy all of the of the jewish nation to take your land and temple mount
k.diaz
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Binyamin,
Wednesday Oct 08, 2008
Why is it called "religious fanaticism" when people wish to practice their faith. Isn't that the essence of "freedom of religion" that most of the Western Allies espouse as the "Democratic Way" ?? Why is it then, when a Palestinian "religious fanatic" commits to suicide bombing or shooting rockets in the name of Palestine and/or Allah, is it the Children of Israel's fault because they're "religious fanatics" for believing that G-d really DID give them the Land of Canaan (Greater Israel) as an inheritance. This seems to be more the case of the "secular" Israelis vs. G-d's chosen people.
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Chaim Israel,
Wednesday Oct 08, 2008
Oppenheimer hates the truth. Judea and Samaria are ancient historical parts of Israel that we have an unbreakably strong claim to. That is what the campaign is about. Simplly telling the truth. Nor can Oppenheimer claim that any Israeli retreat has had positive results for Israel. None has. The results of every single Israeli retreat have been uniformly disastrous. Sderot and Ashkelon were peaceful until our insane retreat from Gaza. Northern Israel was peaceful till our insane retreat from South Lebanon. There is simply no sane way one can maintain that Israeli retreat benefits Israel.
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GB,
Wednesday Oct 08, 2008
Here's a novel concept that will go right over Oppenheimer's head:
When the Palestinians really want peace, the presence of a small Jewish minority shouldn't be a problem. The problem is their politics still look to some insane notion of driving the Jews into the sea in a fantasy total victory.
Palestinians should try the one thing they never have tried- total peace. Welcome the Jews to stay, end the violence and live with us in peace building a common peaceful future. All of their other efforts have failed and will continue to fail and if Iran gets the bomb, they will die too.
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canadian christian,
Wednesday Oct 08, 2008
Mr. Oppenheimer You sound like an itelligent person who cares for your enemies more than you care for your own people. You are currently enjoying the fruits of other Jews who fought and some died so that you can enjoy a good life in Israel. May I remind you 1. All Hamas & Hizbullah does think that you have a right to live in Israel. 2. Jews should have a right to live anywhere in so called Palestine as well as or even more so than Arabs. 3. The Arabs do not care for democracy but will use it to destroy and undermine your country. 4.Whether or not you believe it God will still have His way.
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Michael - USA,
Wednesday Oct 08, 2008
I am very glad to hear that Yesha has started this compaign. At last they seem to realize that they have to win the mind of Tel-Aviv and Haifa. Good luck. As for Oppenheimer, I believe people like him need to realize that not all problems have solutions, and only few have political solutions. Look at the 20th century history. Politicians almost always failed to achive declared goals. You must be George Bush to think that an old conflict between Jews and Arabs who claim the same land can be solved politically. Beside military there is only humanitarian solution, i.e. give them money and let go.
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shalom Pollack Jerusalem,
Thursday Oct 09, 2008
. In every generation there are Jews who dedicate themselves to help the enemy. Mr Oppenheimer is not a new phenomenon.
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Ray Bright Seattle,
Friday Oct 10, 2008
A patriotic Jew does not have to be religious. I for one am not, yet it is clear to me that giving more land to Arabs will not bring peace. Israel is only 0.3% of all Arab land. Additional 0.1% twill make no difference o the Arabs, but will make Israel much harder to defend. Additionally such surrender will not be understood as sign of "friendship" or "generosity", but will be seen for what it really is.
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Jake from Jerusalem,
Friday Oct 10, 2008
Mr Oppenheimer,
In all due respect it is YOU who does not see the reality of the situation today. The past few govts in Israel have turned a blind eye as to how the palestinians educated their children. These children, now the up and coming leaders of the palestinians have been taught to hate Jews/Israel's of all shades, to believe that Israeli's are colonial occupiers NEVER having had a historical right to this land.
It is beyond insanity to assume that such a generation of budding terrorists will agree to peace at ANY price due to their convictions. There is no one to negotiate with,period.
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Myer Rosen, Toronto, Canada,
Friday Oct 10, 2008
My point was that Political Zionism is an ideology devoted to the eradication of a distinctive Jewish identity because such an identity provokes suspicion and persecution by non-Jews. Judea-Samaria is the historical, territorial cradle of traditional Jewish identity and remains central to that identity. Therefore, Political Zionists are ideologically compelled to reject a Jewish presence in Judea-Samaria, regardless of other factors, such as Arab opposition. Therefore, Yariv Oppenheimer is true to the essence of Political Zionism in his opposition to Jewish settlement in Judea-Samaria.
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Ben Ami, Tel Aviv, Israel,
Friday Oct 10, 2008
Myer Rosen, if not for political Zionism (is there any other kind?) there would be no state of Israel at all. It was the secular Jews of Hovevei Tzion who, in the early 20th century, started the Jewish return to Ottoman Palestine and the establishment of Israel. Initially, there was much opposition to Zionism from among orthodox Jews. It is people like Oppenheimer who will ensure the future security of Israel as a democratic homeland for the Jewish people. He is no less an Israeli patriot than are the West Bank settlers (maybe more). Many of his views (not all) are broadly supported in Israel.
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nuchem,
Friday Oct 10, 2008
Israel is a Jewish state first. Democratic could mean marrying one's mother couldn't it. Israel's enemies don't have sorry apologists like you. Maybe you should go there and try apologizing for your dear PALS. I guarantee you that if you do, you will be democratically you know what by them or your money back. But you wouldn't because you know only the Jewish Israelis can unfortunately tolerate undermineaholics like yourself. So YOU OCCUPY their media venues alone.
Maybe you would democratically reveal on whose other payrolls you might be on.
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Joel in Tel Aviv,
Friday Oct 10, 2008
We must disengage immediately. In the Sinai we have peace. It worked because we did it with a moderate partner. We must disengage from the WB while the PA is moderate. This will keep them in power. Also, we will not permit Hamas to enter elections, just as the Brotherhood is banned in Egypt. We must give the settlers four days to pack up and move out. The Army will leave after that time. The settlers will remain if they choose and be at the mercy of the local millions of Arabs. This is the only option. We must use our heads, not our hearts. Then Israel will be at peace.
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Mati Yoav,
Saturday Oct 11, 2008
Joel
You are quite naive if you believe that what you call moderate PA is different than Hamas.
Abas= Hamas.
G-d forbid if your satanic plans are realized you will be the next who will be thrown out of Tel Aviv.
How cruel are your plans.!!!!
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Hizkiya Gerez Rotterdam,
Sunday Oct 12, 2008
Mr. Yoel of Tel Aviv is quite nice in allowing 4 days to move out from their houses. these brave Jews who have dedicated their life to build Erets Yisrael. These people are our brothers! .Have we lost our sentiments!!
How kind of him.!!
It the first time in history that Jews are thrown out of their homes by other Jews.
The PA that he calls moderate ais much the Nazis were Moderate.
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Bobby Goodman,
Sunday Oct 12, 2008
I'm with Oppenheimer 100%. the settlements have always been a disaster. They cost Israel a pile of cash for lovely roads & soldiers. And West Bank Palies had their land stolen. A crime.
The nastiest thing? Every diaspora Jew writing here is a right winger. Are all diaspora Jews obsessed with Israel & Palestine like me on the extreme right? Tragic. Don't make aliyah ever. Fools. Have you ever been to Israel? Once? Yes, some Palies do awful terrorist acts.
IDF targeted hits & the wall are needed now, yes. Settlers are not needed. Leave. & you diaspora Jews? Stay where y!ou are.
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Miryam Alfandari Istanbul,
Sunday Oct 12, 2008
The true Zionism aimed to create a state for the jews where they can live peacefully and not be threatened nor persecuted because of their religion. But today, this concept is being misused on purpose by settlers, to expand the lands of jews at the cost of oppressing, persecuting people on these lands in the name of G-d or religion.They are even misusing the concepts of our Judaism where respecting rights and lives of all the people is essential. This is rotting the Israel society, letting no hope of justice, a society that future generations will no be ashamed of.
A peace with two state solution, considering the satisfaction needs of both sides and balancing these in a good way, for the good democratic health of these people in the long run too, needs to be done immediately, so that Abbas will have support of his people and will not become Hamas, as claim the settlers in order to justify their behaviours
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Ben Ami, Tel Aviv, Israel,
Sunday Oct 12, 2008
Goodman, in the name of good politics you are saying some terrible things. Israel is the national home for the Jewish people left, right, and center. This is the basis of our existence. Yes, it is true that diaspora Jews don't understand the situation; - how could they? Yet, we in Israel encourage them to come here and live. We will deal with their extremism when they make aliya; in many cases it will evaporate when they begin to learn some tough realities. But we will welcome them when they come. And yes, the settlements are the greatest threat to Israel. Still, I remain an optimist.
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Myer Rosen,
Sunday Oct 19, 2008
Ben-Ami, re the modern Jewish return to Zion: It began in the late 18th century and established itself by the end of the 19th century out of purely religious, messianic motives. Secular Political Zionism was irrelevant. Religious Jews, inspired by messianic rabbinical statements (notably the Gaon of Vilna and the Baal Shem Tov), made a renewed effort to settle in the Land of Israel. After about 1840, the overwhelmingly "Haredi" Jewish settlement soared from under 15,000 before 1840 to over 100,000 by 1914. Political Zionists after 1920 obstructed this growth. Check the numbers yourself.
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Roddy Frankel,
Monday Nov 03, 2008
Ben Ami (#30): Why are the (Jewish) settlements the greatest threat to Israel? Are 300,000 West Bank settlers and 170,000 East Jerusalem settlers all terrorists? Should they all be punished and evicted from their homes? Perhaps you would only evict the observant Jews, and let the secular ones stay? What criteria would you establish in deciding who can or can not live in each region?
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J.Hardisty,US/Israel,
Thursday Nov 06, 2008
The picture of Israel today is one of hooded thugs.I served in the IDF and a Vet. of the Yom Kippur
War,and as for Israel,I payed my Jewish taxes.The Peace Now Movement is the only hope Israel
has in a future outside of HaShem.And I do not think HaShem needs those hooded right wing nuts
to protect Israel.Most Palistians and most of Israel wants a secure Peace.If only the common folks
of both nations could just sit down together for dinner and coffee,they could settle the peace issue
before the evening was over.We go back to the green line,you put up your flag over the old city.
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Hizkiya Gerez Holland,
Sunday Nov 16, 2008
J.Hardisty.
The conflict with the Arabs are over 100 years old.
In 1967 the Arabs intended to knock the final blow and throw the Israeli people into the sea.It is by a miracle that the Almighty saved Israel and granted to Israel an unbelievable victory. They intended a massacre that history had never seen.
God presented to His beloved people the remaining of the Promised Land on a silver plater and we are arrogant enough to reject
Israel without God could not stand.
The problem is not the liberated Land that you call it occupied.For the Arabs even Tel-Aviv is occupied.
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Miryam Alfandari Istanbul Turkey,
Saturday Nov 29, 2008
Dear H.Gerez.OK, the Arabs intended too many times to throw the Israeli people into the sea and still, for SOME ONLY Tel-Aviv is occupied.BUT MAJORITY of BOTH people(Arabs and Jews) living in Israel in PRESENT time, WHO are serving in the wars and now living in this constant war of terror.BOTH have RIGHT to and WANT to live in a secure Peace which requires concessions from BOTH side.BOTH are ready to these concessions BECAUSE they can see, realise clearly better than me or/and you that these concessions are LESS DANGEROUS than the ongoing and near future situation for them. Consider it pease.
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