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Thursday Apr 24, 2008
Building Bridges: Iran or the Golan Posted by Yariv Oppenheimer
Comments: 51
Prime Minister Ehud Olmert's relaxing vacation in the Golan is just bad timing. It serves to fuel the conflict that exists within Israeli society which grapples between staying in the Golan Heights and the need for a peace agreement with Syria. Truthfully, when the North is brimming with tourists and activities, when Golan wineries are awarded international prizes and when the Golan's communities see renewed vigor, it seems unnecessary and unrealistic to give up the Golan. The Israeli public does not sense directly the extent of the damage caused to our country due to the lack of peace with Syria nor does it understand the hefty price we are paying because of the continued hostilities with Syria. Seemingly, ceasefire agreements between Israel and Syria are honored and despite Israel's presence in the Golan Heights, the Syrians avoid attacks on Israel soldiers based along the border. The widespread train of thought is that there is no hurry to reach a peace agreement with Syria and that it is a shame to give up such beautiful and important land as the Golan Heights. In effect however, the reality on the ground is the exact opposite. Israel is paying the price of staying in the Golan on a daily basis. Perhaps the most painful and immediate price that Israel was forced to pay for its continued presence in the Golan and the lack of peace with Syria is the strengthening of Hizbullah and the fall of hundreds of men during the Second Lebanon War. When Barak decided to pull the IDF out of Lebanon unilaterally and without a Lebanon-Syria-Israel agreement, it became clear that without a return to the internationally set borders with Lebanon and without a solution to the Golan situation and without an agreement with Syria, the calm in the north would be only temporary. The Second Lebanon War was a direct consequence of the continued conflict between Israel and Syria, a conflict based on the Syrian claim that the Golan Heights must be returned, as was the case with Egypt. However, even after the end of the Second Lebanon War, the state that benefits the most from a lack of a peace agreement between Israel and Syria is Iran, Syria's neighbor to the north who finds itself in this day and age a potential ally to the regime in Damascus. When the Israeli and American governments refuse to converse with the Syrian leadership, Bashar Assad is left with only one option - that is to stick to the alliance with Iran and to enable the Islamic Republic to aid Hizbullah which further threatens Israel's security. If indeed the Iranian threat is top priority and the need to isolate Iran becomes an existential matter, a peace agreement with Syria is the strongest strategic approach in the face of Ahmadinejad and the regime of the Ayatollahs. Even if the official Israeli spokespeople are asked to deny and dismiss claims that Olmert promised the entire Golan to the Syrians in exchange for full peace, their denials and dismissals will play into insignificance. The State of Israel has already determined the set price for peace when it signed an agreement with Egypt at Camp David - full peace was conditional on the full withdrawal of Israel from the land it conquered in 1967. No Syrian President would settle for anything less than what Sadat was able to obtain, no Israeli PM would settle for anything less than what Begin was able to obtain. The only question that begs an answer is how many wars and deaths will the two sides have to absorb in order to sign a peace agreement between them.
1 | Jon, Thursday Apr 24, 2008
You arguments are so silly, so naiive, so out-of-touch with human reality and history. I consider myself left-wing, but you are an embarrasment to the left and merely pour fuel on the fire for rightist extremists.
2 | Herbert Kaine, Hebron Israel, Thursday Apr 24, 2008
Yariv, Syria is an Iranian province. Assad is a vassal to Ahmadinejad. You know this as well as I do. Please peddle your smelly rags in Syria. We have no use for them. Better war with the Golan that war without the Golan. These are Israels choices
3 | Gili, Thursday Apr 24, 2008
Both the US and Israel have repeatedly offered Syria a true peace and economic benefits if it does the right thing. It was *Syria* who repeatedly rejected such carrots.
It is premature to discuss the Golan Heights until Syria stop funding and supporting terrorism. The current behavior would lead any terrorist supporter to believe that their attacks on Israel have won them a prize, not their desire for peace.
4 | Ron S, London, Thursday Apr 24, 2008
Nice idea in theory, but absolute rubbish. Peace is not what Syria desires, it is the destruction of the State of Israel, one 'piece' at a time if necessary. The mind boggles at how this simple fact is constantly overlooked or ignored. Why did Syria go to war with Israel in the first place, was it because Israel 'occupied' the Golan region then????
5 | nehemia Levin, Thursday Apr 24, 2008
Mr. Oppenheimer, did you forget the price of insecurity Israel paid when the Syrians were camping on the top of the Golan Heights before 1967? The difference today-if we gave up the Golan- Is Iranians soldiers sitting on top of the Golan. What would you tell me then?
6 | willcompromise, Thursday Apr 24, 2008
Israel should and must have peace with Syria. But it is not inevitable that all of the Golan should and must go to Syria. There must be compromise. A new international border must be agreed on, one that recognizes Israel's essential interests, including a defensible frontier and recognition of Israel's developmental needs in the area. It can be demilitarized to a strategic depth on both sides. Syria does not need for its essential interests to have its border deep inside Israel's northern sphere of interest and defense. A new international border is the best prospect for a peaceful future.
7 | Josef, USA, Thursday Apr 24, 2008
The sage of Helm has spoken...
8 | Garvin France, Thursday Apr 24, 2008
Following Oppenheimer reasoning,we need to give up all lands occupied after 1948 war,in order to fulfill UN 1947 resolution.Hoping Arabs should this time accept a Jewish State :
Otherwise ,start again !!!
9 | David, Israel, Thursday Apr 24, 2008
Golan is occupied territory, Yariv, and you should use here the term "lehahzir" (to return, instead of to give up), which is correct here. Unlike Judea/Samaria/Gaza, which are NOT occupied territories but DISPUTED territories, and therefore the term "latet" (to give up) has to be used about what has been done with Gaza and should never with Judea/Samaria. And therefore "lehahzir" should never be used with Judea/Samaria, as many people -most in the Left- incorrectly do.
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10 | David, Israel, Thursday Apr 24, 2008
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Having said that, and also saying that we need peace ASAP, I suggest that all our people should consider our options, which not necessarily include returning the Golan to Syria (would you return a weapon to a murderer to allow him to keep murdering?). There are options to that 1) To keep the Golan and offer *compensation*, this is paying the price of the land, buying the land or whatever you call it, 2) To return them part of the Golan and keep part for us (remember that not all the Golan is Syrian and the area surrounding the Kinneret is ours).
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11 | David, Israel, Thursday Apr 24, 2008
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Terms can be discussed. It is not the same as Jerusalem. I would, eventually, cede a part of the Golan for peace, but never Jerusalem or Judea/Samaria which are the heart of Israel (read the maps). It's not the same.
Not land for peace, which does not work these days (Gaza as an example). Compensation for peace. And it's easier here, Syria has already left the place.
12 | Steve, San Francisco, Thursday Apr 24, 2008
Let's not waste any words. This Peace Now jerk is both a liar and a traitor; an enemy from within, and should not be given a forum. His organization has compromised Israel's security and he should be held accountable for it, and his organization is responsible for displacing Israeli patriots from their homes and denying homes to others. He is doing the enemy's bidding at every turn.
13 | Gil Tiberias, Thursday Apr 24, 2008
Mr Oppenheimer, do figs grow on thistles bushes? You know a tree by its fruit, and clearly Assad has not made the slightest turn in the direction of peace, but races forward to build up his war machine, opperate his assasins, and assist militant radical extreemists. Israel wants peace, but we must be realistic, and unless Assad takes a paradine shift, it is only wishfull thinking.
14 | eli stern, Thursday Apr 24, 2008
Why does the JP who publishes every radical left wing looney tune ever punlish someone like Marzel who has a far greater following then the present blogger?
15 | Steve Gure Florida USA, Thursday Apr 24, 2008
The analysis you are making is wrong. The only reason that the Golan Hights is quiet is that Syria knows that they will suffer greatly if the attack. The aim of all Arabs is the destruction of Israel. Israel better realize that and accept it. Surrender land or any other advantage has never and will never bring peace. Israel can only survive through strength.
16 | Shlomo, Thursday Apr 24, 2008
How about this novel idea, peace for peace- not land. Once that is established then any other concessions can be discussed. It really is not a hard concept. Land for peace ensures land is given, not peace and therefore makes no sense to anyone but Israeli politicians and the UN.
17 | Beersheva, Thursday Apr 24, 2008
Wow! There are lots of legitimate different opinions on peace issues...if it wasn't pesach, I'd assume this was a purim article. Someone tell this guy that its not only Israel, but the entire planet that is at odds with North Korea and Syria...and that giving them the golan will not make peace, any more than giving the Sinai made peace with Egypt. This is simply absolute ignorance.
18 | Jack B., Thursday Apr 24, 2008
The very idea that Syria has no choice but to be a bad guy is not only stupid, it is despicable.
19 | mfried, Thursday Apr 24, 2008
"No Syrian President would settle for anything less than what Sadat was able to obtain..."
That line of logic does not make sense. The return of the Sinai to Egypt did not pose a huge security risk for Israel, because it is demiliterized and acts as a buffer to southern Israel. The Golan on the other hand, willl never be demiliterized by Syria if a peace agreement is met because of its close proximity to its capital.
20 | mfried, Thursday Apr 24, 2008
The borders formed in any peace agreement must include defensible and secure borders for both Israel and Syria. This would not be possible with a full withdrawal from the Golan.
21 | Dan, Dallas, TEXAS, Thursday Apr 24, 2008
Your ideas really are a danger to Israel. You rally have no concept of reality. Syria, if given back the Golan Heights would pose a second threat to the north. Shelling from a height has favorable physical attributes. Hizbollah is a surrogate of Syria who is a surrogate of Iran...Capiche? Is Syria going to stand upto Iran after a peace treaty has been signed with Israel.? AND YOUKNOW NOT. Your ideas are as immature as they are morionic. The only question that remains is are you a fifth columnist?
22 | Reuven Ben-Daniel Israel, Thursday Apr 24, 2008
If for peace with Syria they demand we return to the UN partition borders, would Yariv Oppenheimer agree If the demand is that we give up the Arab village of Bashit and the "settlements" built there? If not why not? Where does Yariv Oppenheimer live? On the ruins of what destroyed Arab village stands his house? Over 95% of Israelis living within the Green line are living on the ruins of Arab villages destroyed in the War of Independence and after.
23 | David, Australia, Thursday Apr 24, 2008
"Yariv the Naive": #1 said it succinctly. You are an intellectual embarrassment, only rivaled by Larry Derfner. Ben Gurion saw Israel naturally & defensibly bound by the Litani, Jordan, & Suez. Syria "owned" the Golan for less than Israel, from the artificial creation of Lebanon & Syria (1941) until 1967. Syria lost it in a defensive war it started, & if desired, it could help create a continuous stable, affluent, Westernised presence from Turkey to Kurdistan. The despotic (minority) Allawi Assad family chose otherwise. I can only surmise that JPost publishes you out of editorial "balance".
24 | Itzik, Toronto, Thursday Apr 24, 2008
Israel should insist that a 10 year period of calm and peace be instituted, after that 10 year period the Syrians can have the Golan. This way Israel would know what Syrian intentions really are.
"Israel beware of a wolf in sheep's clothing"
25 | Stanford Newman - USA, Thursday Apr 24, 2008
How about requiring that Syria Officially recognizes Israel as a sovereign nation with an exchange of diplomats, plus other visible signs such as completely pulling out of Lebanon, before we cede any part of the Golan? There is no way renouncing terror can be monitored, so we need something tangible. How about joint economic ventures in parts of the Golan. Nothing insures peace as much as economics.
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