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Sunday Nov 29, 2009
A festival of discrimination - funded by the EU Posted by Sherri Mandell
Comments: 44
The Al-Quds Underground is an unconventional arts festival in the Old City of Jerusalem that was held on the first week of November with more than 150 performances including music, storytelling, theatre and dance. But when Gil Zohar, a reporter for The Jerusalem Post, showed up at the Damascus Gate to attend the show, to which he had received an invitation, he was asked by Jamal Gosch, the director of the a-Nuzha Hakawati Theater, where he lived. Zohar answered Jerusalem, in Arabic. When Jamal heard Gil's accent, he was told that Israelis were not welcome. As Gil Zohar explained in his In Jerusalem article of Friday, November 6, the festival's Dutch artistic director Melijin Twaalfhoven told him, "Our team [of 12 Dutch activists and eight artists] had to promise that we would not allow peaceful Israelis to come." The project was funded by the European Union through the Dutch charity Cordaid and the Alexandria-based Anna Lindh Euro-Mediterranean foundation for dialogue between cultures. What dialogue between cultures is being promoted here? Perhaps the EU is more interested in dialogue between the Dutch and the Palestinians than in dialogue between Israelis and Palestinians. Zohar explained that Al Quds Underground's "no Israeli" rule was part of a larger policy set by the Palestinian Boycott Divestment and Sanctions National Committee, the goal of which is to isolate Israel as South Africa was isolated in the days of apartheid. A public arts festival in Jerusalem, funded by the European Union and respected foundations, which Israelis are banned from attending. And it is the Israelis who are accused of "apartheid." The young, hip Dutch artist Twaalfhoven, no doubt specially flown in to direct this festival, is described as a visionary. He says, "I sometimes break through the boundaries between art and life. That is the core of my work." I fail to see what boundary was being broken through here. It seems that, on the contrary, a barrier was being erected. And yet Twaalfhoven apparently has no problem with such blatant discrimination and divisiveness. A project such as this should not be funded by the EU. Or by the Anna Lindh Euro-Mediterranean Foundation for dialogue between cultures. Or by Cordaid, a Dutch international development organization with over 1000 partner organizations in 36 countries. According to its website, its focus is on emergency aid, poverty eradication, health and well-being, and entrepreneurship. What kind of health and well being was being promoted at the arts festival? And here is a description of the goals of the Anna Lindh Foundation:
Which human right is being championed here? The right to discriminate? The right to segregate? The right to forego dialogue? What kind of understanding is being created? According to its website, Anna Lindh, a Swedish minister who was assassinated in 2003, was known for her work in the Euro Med area, especially in areas of dialogue and mutual understanding. The foundation professes that its goal is to fight extremism and encourage civil dialogue. How ironic that a foundation that espouses dialogue should fund a project that prohibits it. I propose that we bombard both websites with requests that it ban this kind of funding. http://www.euromedalex.org/contact http://www.cordaid.nl/English/About_Cordaid/Index.aspx?mId=10182 We should also write the European Union.
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DavidM,
Sunday Nov 29, 2009
The decision to ban Jews from the conference probably comes from Europe. They eagerly cooperated with the nazi discrimination and not much has changed in the last 60 years. Today European universities routinely ban Israeli scholars and urge boycotts of Jewish businesses. Newspapers such as the Guardian publish inflamatory pieces about Israel that outdo anything in al Jazeera. Brtish television recently aired a documentary accusing the Jewish community of a conspiracy to control the UK's foreign policy. It's time to deny entry into Israel to those who come to Israel to do harm.
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Elise,
Sunday Nov 29, 2009
I thought there were laws against discrimination in Israel. Why are they not being applied here? Judenrein in Israel? What is wrong with this picture.?
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Jim Fletcher,
Sunday Nov 29, 2009
This piece is very informative and important. I urge my fellow Christians to read it and post it widely.
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Gary L USA,
Sunday Nov 29, 2009
Elise hits the nail on the head! "NO Jews allowed" signs in Israel. UNbelievable! To me, this tells the whole story of Jew Hatred. This "Pogrom" mentality of harassing and excluding Jews from even art and music festivals makes a new low..and in Israel yet! I tell you people its 1933-45 again. Get ready .."hear oh Israel" be prepared to hit these Jew haters so hard it will make Hiroshima look like Disney Land! NEVER AGAIN. Hitler and his propaganda liers are back again! Get those bombers ready IAF. USA ...take notice!
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Kenny K USA,
Sunday Nov 29, 2009
Europe and the UN can are a disgrace! Put the UN building out in the Sahara desert! The league of Nations as bad as it was..makes the UN look like a KKK meeting. It UN consists of Jew haters, Israel haters , USA haters, and Christian haters (dont kid yourselves)! We USA saved Europe's tuchas and they pay us back with pro Islamofascist votes. Europe will be overun soon with Islamic Shariah law...we won't save their butts anymore. If they think Hitller was bad just wait until the mullahs get in charge! The UN is a curse! David M #1 is right.. "deny entry to jew haters to Israel".
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Maya, Sweden,
Sunday Nov 29, 2009
Then Swedish FM Anna Lundh was one of the most self-righteous Israel slanderes. One day before she was assassinated she again held such a incendiary anti-Israel speech that I more than ever deplored that we, the " people", could not reach our "representatives" to talk reason to them even though we live in a democracy. But the next day one of her "people" actually did reach her - with a knife! Irony had it that it was one of the mentally deranged persons her socialist party decided to throw out in the street when closing Sweden's mental hospitals because all people should be equal ...!
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Mervyn Wayburne, Johannesburg, South Africa.,
Sunday Nov 29, 2009
Maya, Sweden, comments are informative and frightening. As DavidM, Elise, Jim Fletcher, Kenny K USA state, we are back in the 1930's. Nothing has changed. Large parts of the world dislike us Jews intensely. Has a Jew ever harmed any of these people. Does Israel or Judaism promote hatred of others? Absolutely not! The people of the Al-Quds Underground and the organisations that support it and like-minded groups and persons should be prohibited from entering Israel again. How reprehensible their convictions and attitudes are!
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Dr. Moshe Leibler,
Monday Nov 30, 2009
The Europeans and the Arabs don't surprise me.The real question is why the Israeli government allows such a racist event to take place. The European Union and its sisters support overt and covert racist projects in Israel, meddle in its affairs constantly. Most Arab settlement activities in Judaea and Samaria are supported by the European Union. Thus the EU meddles in the internal affairs of Israel, attempting to change the status quo, yet the Israeli government never mentions this. No steps are ever taken to prevent this meddling. The Apartheid convention in Jerusalem is only one example.
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Alisa , Antwerp belgium,
Monday Nov 30, 2009
frankly, that europe behaves like this it does not surprise me; what does surprise me tho, is that ISRAEL allowed this to go thru....last I checked, Jerusalem was still under Israeli law: how come this was allowed?
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Lowell Blackman Ramat Ilan, Israel,
Monday Nov 30, 2009
The problem with the Anna Lindh Foundation is that Anna Lindh was a fierce and persistent critic of Israel who turned a blind eye to any blatant terrorist behavior on the part of Palestinians, excusing them with the rationale that "the oppressed" have the right to engage in violence. She was a bosom buddy of professional Israel-hater and media savvy Hanan Ashrawi and, in true Orwellian surrealism, once presented Ashrawi with a humanitarian award. But the real problem is that we allowed such a festival to take place, funded by a foreign organization with known hostility to us.
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Merlijn Twaalfhoven,
Monday Nov 30, 2009
Dear people,
I have to inform you that Gil Zohar quoted me wrongly and that the festival did not intend to refuse Israeli guests. After an incident on Fridaynight, where Israeli guests disturbed a performance and did intimidating political statements, we asked six Israeli guests on Saturday not to participate because of the situation of tension and fear that was created.
We regret that this happened and will do everything to avoid such a situation in the future.
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merlijn Twaalfhoven,
Monday Nov 30, 2009
The quote in the Jerusalem Post: The local people told me months ago that Israelis cannot go was not correct. It was based on the explanation that we decided already months ago we would not announce the events publicly or invite Israeli artists to participate, because the situation in the Old City is so tense.
Gil Zohar writes that he himself received an invitation, as many other Israelis did.
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Merlijn Twaalfhoven, Holland,
Monday Nov 30, 2009
It is a project of dialogue between cultures that are part of the society in the Old City such as Christian, Armenian, African and various Muslim communities. To include Jews would be something very good, we hope that this can happen in the future.
Please help us to create more openness and contact among the people that live in fear and frustration in Israel/Palestine.
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AF NY,
Monday Nov 30, 2009
Cancel Jerusalem Day. It always struck me as odd that in"unified' Jerusalem an Arab can walk freely anywhere and without concern except for occassional thugs while an unarmed Jew is restricted to certain areas at the risk of serious bodily harm. This article is another albeit different example of Jerusalem being unified in name only
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Ben,
Monday Nov 30, 2009
In any normal country police would shut the meeting by any pretext.It`s ridiculous that a citizen isn`t allowd to enter because he is the citizen of the country
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Ross, San Francisco, CA,
Tuesday Dec 01, 2009
Funny, when Israeli Jews are perceived to be discriminated against it's the Third Reich all over again, everyone hates us, the Cossacks are at the door - even when as slight as this arts fest! Yet Israel discriminates against her Palestinian citizens on a daily basis, to say nothing of the brutal treatment of those in the WB and Gaza, and all that is rarely if ever addressed. Maybe there is something to this Boycott Divestment and Sanctions movement. Perhaps it will teach the oldest rule: do unto others as you would have them do unto you.
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EdB,
Tuesday Dec 01, 2009
It sounds to me as if the Israelis involved are getting a dose of their own apartheid medicine. The irony of this article is delicious. Kvetching about the Palis' actions with words like apartheid, barriers, discrimination, segregation, cultural dialogue etc. and then winding up the article with a call to 'Bombard' the organizations involved is hysterically pathetic.
My guess is that my response to this funny article will zoom right over the heads of the gatekeepers here and it won't be published, but I called it as I saw it.
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Lynna, USA,
Tuesday Dec 01, 2009
While I would never support discrimination of any kind I find it strange that Israelis can even discuss discrimination given that they support a state that practices institutionalized racism, occupation and segregation against the entire Palestinian population both within Israel and the Occupied Territories. I don't see that you have the right to complain about such things as being boycotted from an Arts festival until you manage to correct the extreme injustices within your own land against Palestinian Arabs--then perhaps you'll have a leg to stand on.
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Elizabeth Canada Israel,
Tuesday Dec 01, 2009
There is NO trust after not just ONE intifada and terror/suicide bombers trying to detroy the very fabric of daily life with uncertainty that you or your loved one wont be in a million pieces at days end and you three dare to talk about Apartheid?? Do you even know what the meaning of that WORD IS? Ignorant fools! The terror was their choice when they didnt win 67 war of extermination of Israel...boohoo! The Tipping point of NO RETURN for these arab squatters or TRUST that we can let them live in Israel is long GONE. None of you have ANY moral authority to tell Jews in OUR homeland what to do!
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Elizabeth Canada Israel,
Tuesday Dec 01, 2009
13 Merlijn, HOW DARE YOU COME TO ISRAEL and to the Jewish Capitol Jerusalem and practise your version of Judenrien IN OUR LAND!! You have some raw nerve and then you end your last comment with Israel/palistine, well SORRY merlijn, there is no such thing, entity or people or place called Palistine, they are arabs/muslims who have come to Israel from Arabia (the majority) and scragglers like arafat who was born in Egypt! Dont come here and be all sanctimoneous with Israeli's and telling us how to achieve peace, we have fought too many wars (every ten years..almost like clockwork we are attacked!)
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asia,
Tuesday Dec 01, 2009
it is really funny that israelis are complaining about discrimination
palestinians need permission to travel in their own towns and villages through checkpoints
not allowing israelis is a security measure, after yaakov teital the jewish terrorist, you cannot be too careful
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Leon Virginia USA,
Wednesday Dec 02, 2009
#19 and 20...You go Elizabeth....You are dead on RIGHT..Isreal is the victom here, everyone seems to forget that . I support Isreal and the Jewish national people 100% Soon, your creator will intervene, and there will be hell to pay for all your enemies.
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Shaf. Cape Town,
Wednesday Dec 02, 2009
What the Israelis are offering the Palestinians - West Bank and Gaza, is the same thing that the "Apartheid" government of South Africa offered the black people of South Africa. "Homelands" without any real autonomy. This was rejected with the contempt it deserved. There can be no real peace until the Euro Jews in Israel start accepting the Arabs as their equals. Their systematic policy of violence against Palestinians will only harden them even more.
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Ross, San Francisco, CA,
Thursday Dec 03, 2009
Elizabeth Canada-Israel's unhinged rant is Zionism distilled. Israel's Jews are the only victims in her fantasy and Palestine was their "homeland," despite a more than 2,000 year absence. The Palestinians who were slaughtered by the Haganah, the Palmach, and other terrorist gangs or driven from their homes at gunpoint in '48, '67 and inbetween still have no rights as they are not Jewish. Her idea of terror is when the Palestinians her ilk have been killing and terrorizing for decades actually shoot back. Arab squatters?! An ignorant racist remark from a truel squatter.
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Roddy Frankel,
Thursday Dec 03, 2009
#13 - Merlijn Twaalfhoven: "To include Jews would be something very good, we hope that this can happen in the future."
This quote distills anti-Zionism perfectly. Anti-Zionism = Anti-Judaism. Thank you Merlijn Twaalfhoven for making that so clear. You are a true racist. You don't even realize it when you shoot yourself in the foot.
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Adam, Teaneck, NJ,
Thursday Dec 03, 2009
There needs to be further confirmation of what allegedly happened on Friday night but I highly doubt that there was such a disturbance.
To all the Israel bashers, the Palestinians in Israel and West Bank have more rights than Arabs in any other country,
No it is not a perfect situation but you don't know history at all. Israel was constanty attacked by the Arab nations. Before 1948 and until 1967.
After the land was taken, Israel has tried to make peace.
Ross, you are a sucker for the fascist Islamo movement.
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Jen USA,
Friday Dec 04, 2009
#24 Ross... my thoughts exactly.
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Elizabeth Israel Canada,
Friday Dec 04, 2009
To the ignorant Ross and others, who are furious at Jews retaking Israel the Jewish homeland, haha I dont think KIng David or Solomon were arabs DUH and no absolutly NOTHING about Israel or the definition of Apartheid,so why the hell would we have $%& arab members in OUR KNESSET, seriously look up the definition before you post like a moron, Ross everyone knows those darling muslims attacked Israel in 48 and 67 and had their asses kicked.Do you ever read REAL books on history or it all revisionist, you mention my ilk, busting a brain vein are you at the thought of ISRAEL fighting back Love it.
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Ross, San Francisco, CA,
Saturday Dec 05, 2009
Elizabeth, perhaps you should read some history - in '48 the Zionists began a program to "cleanse and eradicate the Arab presence" (their words) a good 5 to 6 months before war broke out in mid-May. This included a number of massacres. Files from the IDF published some 5 years ago and covered by JPost and Haaretz revealed this. In '67 Israel attacked first, not the Arabs. Your ignorance is appalling, but par for a bigoted Zionist.
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Elizabeth ZIONIST 4ever Israel Canada,
Saturday Dec 05, 2009
Ross "defend them against the enemies of Truth." - which you apparently are - with your pre-conceived, ingrained anti-Jewish bias, sanitized, with Israel as the target. The "occupation" didn't happen on a whim. On the eve of the '67 war Syria, Jordan & Egypt - equipped w/ the Soviet Unions's latest weapenry - massed among other things - 250,000 troops & over 1000 tanks on Israel's borders. Consider in '48 - only 19 yrs. earlier - 7 better equipped Arab nations: Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, Egypt, Iraq, Saudi Arabia & Yemen initiated a war of annihilation which the Jews defeated - while being embargoed by Truman. Get a clue & some deucation,
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ROSS is a MORON, work on it babe! ISRAEL JEWISH LAND,
Saturday Dec 05, 2009
"defend them against the enemies of Truth." - which you apparently are - with your pre-conceived, ingrained anti-Jewish bias, sanitized, with Israel as the target. The "occupation" didn't happen on a whim. On the eve of the '67 war Syria, Jordan & Egypt - equipped w/ the Soviet Unions's latest weapenry - massed among other things - 250,000 troops & over 1000 tanks on Israel's borders. Consider in '48 - only 19 yrs. earlier - 7 better equipped Arab nations: Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, Egypt, Iraq, Saudi Arabia & Yemen initiated a war of annihilation which the Jews defeated - while being embargoed by Truman. Get a clue & some deucation,
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Elizabeth NEVER AGAIN ROSS typical JEW HATER,
Saturday Dec 05, 2009
It`s hard to disagree with the idea that human rights matter; that war is bad; that unneccesary killing is unnecessary and that if we could, we all ought to work everything out peacefully, ethically and morally. Yet, in this awful Hamas vs Israel conflict what do we see: 1)The so-called peacemaker, the UN shelters Hamas fighters and is seriously and disproportionatelt arrayed against Israel.2) The "anti-Zionists" (we`re not agains Jews; just against Israel) violently protesting all over the world and firebombing synagogues and among other things suggesting the Jews go to the ovens again. 3)A highly supposedly moral outcry for Israel to stop killing civilians (which it is); with no countervailing outcry for Hamas to remove itself and its weapons from the dead center of its own civilians. The pained cry for human rights extends, unquestionably, to the "Palestinians" (no mention of the cause of the pain, Hamas; which has hijacked Gaza)but nary a word for the human rights of the Jews
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Elizabeth ONE MORE TO ROSS THE SHAKRAN (and JEN:),
Saturday Dec 05, 2009
Funny how you believe all of Haaretz` anti-Israel articles, as if written by God himself, while summarily dismissing any/all of the (few) pro-Israel articles. Where is your `fake` humanitarian interest when Arabs and Arab-sympathizers throughout the world shout "Death to Israel", "Death to America", "Jews to the gas"? Where is your `fake` humanitarian outrage for the oppressive regimes under which a billion Arabs/Muslims live, where women are stoned to death for the crime of BEING raped, where women are not allowed to work, drive, vote or become educated?
You are no humanitarian, ROSS, You`re just one of the same half-dozen ardent Jew-haters who lives to peddle his bigotry on an israeli newspaper`s website.
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Roddy Frankel,
Saturday Dec 05, 2009
To Ross (#29):
Let's assume that you have some citations to back up your claims. How do you explain the very existence of the Jewish Agency, whose sole purpose was to raise money to purchase land for Jewish settlers? Please read "The Land Question in Palestine, 1917-1939" by professor Kenneth W. Stein, who was one of the founding members of the Carter Center at Emory University.
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Roddy Frankel,
Saturday Dec 05, 2009
To Ross (#29) continued:
Another two problems with your ethnic cleansing hypothesis is that following both the '48 and '67 wars, more than half of the Arabs that fled Israel were allowed to return within a grace period. Surely this a foolish way to ethnically cleanse Israel of it's Arabs! Finally, the all too obvious fact that 18% of Israeli citizens are Arabs. Your hypothesis appears to be false propaganda. Now defend yourself.
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Elizabeth : Ross and Jen, two ignorants who know NO history!,
Saturday Dec 05, 2009
The Jewish people have been in Israel since Abraham, 4000 years ago, Since Isaac Jacob (aka ISRAEL) 12 tribes, Moses, King david, king solomon, on down fast forward from 3000 to 2000 years ago to jesus, the 1st and 2nd temples. The jews have been a majority in parts of Israel for most of the past 2000 years (Tsfat area for example), also Judea (southern part of the "west bank"). The ignorance is hard to read from you. Arabs are from arabia, not here. They OCCUPIED all north africa and extend well into iran and afganistan, etc It is an arab occupation of the 1 jewish homeland. eat that:) &choke
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Elizabeth: Damn Ross, common JewHater=UNEDUCATED typical!,
Saturday Dec 05, 2009
Arab Leadership didn`t accept the UN sanction partition.
From 47`UN partition and January 48`it was the Arab irregulars who started and escallated attacks kibutz,moshav villages and isolated Jewish towns.Jewish buses were stopped by Arab bands and people Jews masscred.Only then did the BG Head Jewish Agency ordered Hagana to respond militarly.A campaign to buy demobile weapons from US and Europe was undertaken led by the young Shimon Peres.
ARABS carried out attrocities.ARABS mutilated bodies of Jewish victims.BG ordered expulsion of snipers along the road to Jerusalem under siege.Total 45% Arabs run to Syria/Jordan told they would return with a win and JEWS DRIVEN INTO THE SEA...didnt quite work out for them:)
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Ross, San Francisco, CA,
Sunday Dec 06, 2009
To Roddy:
What do you mean? As you say the JA's purpose was to purchase and acquire land for Jewish settlement, although it must be said it also acted as gov't in waiting. And so . . . ? By 1948 some 7% of Palestine was Jewish owned. There was no return allowed for those Arabs expelled in '48 and '67. The some 20% of Israel's population that is Arab is not made up of returnees but those who never left. That Israel was not able to complete its ethnic cleansing is not evidence that such did not occur.
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Jen USA,
Friday Dec 11, 2009
Elizabeth, The history of the land of Israel didn't start with the Israelites. Don't you know that there were civilizations (Canaanites and others) that flourished before and alongside the Israelites. Even after the arrival of the Israelites, the land was conquered by everyone from the early Syrians to the Egyptians, the Romans to the Greeks. Your ancestors are a mixed bag. We are all mixed. Your ignorance doesn't erase the people and history of the land from the fall of the temple-the 20th century. Today's Palestinians have valid claims to the land, too. You need to check your own history.
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Elizabeth: JEN your IGNORANCE and JEW HATE are boring me,
Friday Dec 18, 2009
Jewish people have been in Israel since Abraham, 4000 years ago, Since Isaac Jacob (aka ISRAEL) 12 tribes, Moses, King david, king solomon, on down fast forward from 3000 to 2000 years ago to jesus, the 1st and 2nd temples. The jews have been a majority in parts of Israel for most of the past 2000 years (Tsfat area for example), also Judea (southern part of the "west bank"). The ignorance is hard to read from you. Arabs are from arabia, not here. They OCCUPIED all north africa and extend well into iran and afganistan, etc It is an arab occupation of the 1 jewish homeland. eat that:) &choke
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ross guishard,ANGUILLA,
Friday Dec 18, 2009
Israel,you are to blame.who allowed those idiots in your land,and why weren't they driven out once their intentions were known?Hi,Jen,you ar e the one who needs to check your own history.Ask the american Indians who america belongs to .Also your much revered Declaration of Independence and Constitution were largely based on the Bible-a book written by Israelis. James Madison,called the "Father " of your constitution,said,We have staked the whole future of American civilization,not upon the power of government,far from it.(continued)
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Ross guishard,ANGUILLA,
Friday Dec 18, 2009
We have staked the future of all of our political institutions upon the capacity of mandkind for self-government;upon the capacity of each and all of us to govern ourselves,to control ourselves,to sustain ourselves according to the Ten Commandments of God.The Ten Commandments came from the JEWS.
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Jen USA,
Friday Jan 08, 2010
Elizabeth, You are nasty for no reason. I am NOT anti-semetic. I am also not ignorant of the true history of the region. Did you even read what I wrote? Did I deny the Jewish contribution and history in the region? No. I simply pointed out to you that the region has a much, much richer and varied history than that of just the Jewish people. And, Israelites travelled to the region from elsewhere, just like the Arabs. Perhaps, the education you have recieved in Canada/ Israel has been incomplete. You need to do a little research before you type instead of baseless name-calling.
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Jen USA,
Friday Jan 08, 2010
Ross, The Declaration of Independence and the Constitution & the philosophy behind the documents were not only based on the Bible, but also the writings of Locke, Didero, etc.. Many of the founding fathers were Diests, basically Agnostics. The history of the Decalogue is not as clear cut as you claim. Religious historians have found that the Decalogue could have been based on pagan documents written by the Hittites (treaties imposed 14th-13th cent. BCE) & bear a striking similarity to laws set down in the Egyptian Book of the Dead. Both predate the supposed God-Moses meeting. That is history.
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