Tuesday Mar 25, 2008

Koch's Comments: The questions asked about Obama

Posted by Ed Koch
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Barack Obama's speech last week addressing his 20-year relationship with his radical pastor, Rev. Jeremiah Wright, was very well done, yet unconvincing.

Obama sought to explain that relationship and why he could not end this close association, despite the minister's hate-filled rhetoric. He said, "There will no doubt be those for whom my statements of condemnation are not enough. Why associate myself with Rev. Wright in the first place, they may ask? Why not join another church?"

Yes, those are the questions that people are asking.

Many of Rev. Wright's incendiary statements are on videos sold by his church. Minister Louis Farrakhan, a friend of Rev. Wright with whom he traveled to visit Muammar Qhadaffi in Libya, also makes his sermons and those of others associated with the Nation of Islam available for sale. Their attacks on the US and Israel often coincide with those of Rev. Wright. 

Rev. Wright's sermons charge that the US government gives African-Americans drugs, created AIDS and is deliberately infecting blacks with that disease. His sermons claim that the US unjustifiably nuclear bombed Hiroshima and Nagasaki in World War II, and that 9/11 and the deaths of 3,000 Americans were caused by US foreign policy. He alleges Israeli state terrorism against the Palestinians; calling Israel a "dirty word" and "racist country." He blames Israel for 9/11 and supports the divestment campaign against it, denouncing "Zionism." His venomous thoughts are summed up in his most discussed sermon in which he says the US government "wants us to sing God Bless America.  No, no, not God Bless America.  God damn America. God damn America for killing
innocent people."

Senator Obama in his speech acknowledged that the rantings of his minister are "inexcusable," but stated, "I can no more disown him than I can disown the black community. I can no more disown him than I can my white grandmother - a woman who helped raise me, a woman who sacrificed again and again for me, a woman who loves me as much as she loves anything in this world, but a woman who once confessed her fear of black men who passed by her on the street, and who on more than one occasion has uttered racial or ethnic stereotypes that made me cringe."

Before we discuss his grandmother, let's examine the impact of Rev. Wright's statements on the Senator's two daughters. Nothing says it better than a song from the musical "South Pacific," to wit, "You have to be taught to hate and fear...You've got to be carefully taught." Few dispute that Rev. Wright's sermons are filled with hate. Why didn't Senator Obama stand up in the church and denounce his hateful statements or, at the very least, argue privately with his minister? It was horrifying to see on a video now viewed across America the congregation rise from the pews to applaud their minister's rants.

Now to Obama's grandmother. There was a time spanning the 70's to the mid-90's when many blacks and whites in large American cities expressed the same feelings on street crime held by Obama's grandmother. Indeed, Reverend Jesse Jackson made similar comments in 1993 at a meeting of his organization, Operation Push, devoted to street crime. According to a November 29, 1993, article in the Chicago Sun Times, he said, "'We must face the No. 1 critical issue of our day.  It is youth crime in general and black-on-black crime in particular.' Then Jackson told the audience, 'There is nothing more painful to me at this stage in my life than to walk down the street and hear footsteps and start thinking about robbery. Then look around and see somebody white and feel relieved.... After all we have been through,' he said. 'Just to think we can't walk down our own streets, how humiliating.'"

Isn't that exactly what Obama's grandmother was referring to? To equate her fears, similar to Jesse Jackson's, with Wright's anti-American, anti-white, anti-Jew, and anti-Israel rantings is despicable coming from a grandson. In today's vernacular, he threw her under the wheels of the bus to keep his presidential campaign rolling. For shame.

What is it that I and others expected Obama to do? A great leader with conscience and courage would have stood up and faced down anyone who engages in such conduct. I expect a President of the United States to have the strength of character to denounce and disown enemies of America - foreign and domestic -- and yes, even his friends and confidants when they get seriously out of line.

What if a minister in a church attended primarily by white congregants or a rabbi in a synagogue attended primarily by Jews made comparable statements that were hostile to African-Americans? I have no doubt that the congregants would have immediately stood up and openly denounced the offending cleric. Others would have criticized that cleric in private. Some would surely have ended their relationships with their congregation.  Obama didn't do any of these things. His recent condemnations of Wright's hate-filled speech are, in my opinion,
a case of too little, too late.

It is also disturbing to me that Obama's wife, Michelle, during a speech in Wisconsin last month, said, "For the first time in my adult lifetime, I'm really proud of my country, because it feels like hope is finally making a comeback." 

Strange. This is a woman who has had a good life, with opportunities few whites or blacks have been given.  When she entered Princeton and Harvard and later became a partner in a prestigious law firm, didn't she feel proud to be an American? When she and the Senator bought their new home, was there no feeling of accomplishment and pride in being a US citizen? When her husband was elected to the state legislature and subsequently to the United States Senate, didn't she feel proud of her country? 

Senator Obama was asked if he thought his speech changed any minds. He replied he didn't think so, and certainly not of those who weren't already for him. A more important question is, whether his 20-year relationship with Wright has done lasting damage to his candidacy. We will soon know.

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1  |  david blue bell,pa, Wednesday Mar 26, 2008
The divisiveness in the Democratic primary contest will make it difficult in the fall elections. Hard to believe a flawed Republican could prevail after 8 years of the current administration's ihncompetence. Simple question: are you better off now then you were eight years ago? And not all that optimistic about the future.
2  |  Paul McMenaman Colorado, Wednesday Mar 26, 2008
I have long admired Mayor Koch and this article reinforces that admiration.
3  |  new_york_loner, Rochester, NY, Wednesday Mar 26, 2008
When and if our confidants and friends in the Zionist or "Jewish State", get seriously out of line, would Barack, Hillary or McCain, or any future US President dare to denounce and disown the offending parties? Will any future US President have the strength of character to disown and denounce faith-based and race-based colonialism in Palestine? Sorry, Ed, not every New Yorker has imbibed the Kosher Israeli Kool-Aid. The old myths, half-truths and falsehoods just don't resonate today, as they did in the past. Call it "Compassion Fatigue" or "Sympathy Burnout".
4  |  Thomas Francis, Thursday Mar 27, 2008
For once I agree with Mr. Koch.
5  |  Morton Friedman Lanham, MD USA, Thursday Mar 27, 2008
Be careful what you say, Mayor Koch. Else people will start calling you a neo-conservative, a right-winger. Especially when you are spouting this 'propaganda'. You are speaking heresy about the new Messiah. His speech bever happened, it is pure fiction. Rev. Wright's speeches were performed by actors, never by him..
6  |  Larry S. Pollak Columbus, Ohio, Thursday Mar 27, 2008
The Mayor is still a "Democrat with Santy" as he often says. I wish there more like him and Senator Lieberman in the party.
7  |  new_york_loner Rochester NY, Thursday Mar 27, 2008
The 600-character limit here has forced me to devote an entire journal entry in response to Maoyr Koch's hatchet job on Senator Obama. I invite the Mayor to visit my site and comment.. Here's my URL: http://new-york-loner.livejournal.com/
8  |  Mike in Los Angeles, Friday Mar 28, 2008
Seems to me the easy thing to do would have been to disown the Reverend. That Obama refuses to do this to me shows a much deeper character than Koch is willing to see. As a Jew I am commanded to see in everyone the divine image. To me that means giving people the benefit of the doubt and making an effort to take them at their word. My rabbi said some pretty wild things last year at Yom Kippur, but I knew that there was a deeper context behind it, because I know him as a man. If Obama says he knows Rev. Wright as a man, I'm willing to extend to him the benefit of the doubt.
9  |  Jeff Florida, Friday Mar 28, 2008
Koch wrote that Obama's speech was a little too little, too late. I hope the news about Wright is not too late. My question is where has the media been for 6 months on this? Why did they wait to bring this out until almost all the primaries are over? Why bring it out when the next primary is not for another month? They did not wait to look into Romney and Huckabee's religious affiliation, why did they wait so long to bring Obama's out?
10  |  paul david swinford Christian truck driver, Friday Mar 28, 2008
Mayor Koch, I would probably kiss you if I were with you. lol It is still sad that so many Americans don't see the problem as clear as you. Since time is running out on the primary season, I'll live with whatever the future brings, and pray for our loved ones. Today I heard that his church released a statement sayint Israel was working with South Africa to develope a genocide that would kill Arabs and black Africans. It was dated June 10th 2007.
11  |  tacraig tampa bay, floridia, Saturday Mar 29, 2008
I was born and raised in New York City, but l have had the opportunity to live in many different states. Why is it the US has only two political parties when there are so many different political sentiments afoot? It seems to me that trying to force fit the wide range of sentiments into only two parties is at best counter productive. Why can't there be multiple parties? How many political parties are there in England, France, Germany or Italy or the rest of Europe or else where? The norm is for multiple parties not just two.
12  |  Steve Gure Coconut Creek Fl, Saturday Mar 29, 2008
Mayor Koch is right on the mark again. I say this as a retired police officer from NYC. I served under him and worked for him when he was the mayor. Even though he championed many things that were not well received by the police community, he was always right on the mark. I wish him the very best.
13  |  Becky, Euless, Texas, Saturday Mar 29, 2008
First I would like to commend those who took their time to Blog, secondly I am not jewish but I do visit and Blog here once in a while I have a strange Connection with Israel( I am Black) but went to the Internation school in Jerusalem(My parens were working there at the time between 2000-20049 this is important as that tell you I know Israel and its people, the Sentiments here are true to most of the people there, Most of the Popolation is racist, everytime I could be up and about with friends, or even at restaurants my family and I were treated Different,
14  |  Becky, Euless, Saturday Mar 29, 2008
cont.. I can't count how many times while walking at the Beach in Tel-aviv I was asked by so many men(all age groups)if I was a sex worker, they percieve just because am black I must be poor lookingfor houses to clean, and men to screw, that is real I was happy to get out of there after our family's mission ended. I visited 2 good families(jewish) this year that I met while there, I named my son Zion.. but Israelis need to change their attitudes, its Pathetic, you think am lying go to Tel-aviv and see how Blacks are living.
15  |  Becky, Saturday Mar 29, 2008
cont.. that Explains what some of you think about Obama, Guess what, he is leading so far bless his heart, I am voting Hillary, because of her stand on the Health Issue, but RAcism needs to end at some point, I have friends coming to Israel for Basket ball tournaments they are Mostly Black they are very aware what to expect!! PS-I know this will not make it past Moderation
16  |  THEMAN oakland, CA, Sunday Mar 30, 2008
blacks are still scared of white people. Duh. They where systemactiically killed too ... Just like the Jews. but they had nowhere to run. Just the black church, so i can understand why they are so sensitive
17  |  C., Sunday Mar 30, 2008
To new york loner: you are indeed a loner.
18  |  new_york_loner, Tuesday Apr 01, 2008
Thank you C., for the kind words. By the way, most loners are not really anti-social, they're leaders without followers. A poster left a comment on my blog and signed it "Ed Koch". This “Ed Koch” may be who he claims to be – he did not really address my points, just like a true politician. He did repeat the same, old, pro-Israel talking points, just like a true politician. And he ended it all with “All the Best”, again, just like a true politician. Ed, thanks for the visi! You are a New Yorker's New Yorker. Please visit again.
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