Tuesday Aug 18, 2009

Koch's Comments: The next uprising will be over immigration reform in 2010

Posted by Ed Koch
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On August 16, The New York Times ran an angry editorial entitled, "Water In The Desert."  It referred to a man named Walt Staton, who placed water jugs in the New Mexico desert along the Mexican border for those seeking to cross the border illegally, some of whom die in the desert from lack of water. Staton was convicted of littering and "sentenced last week to probation and 300 hours of picking up trash after he refused to pay a fine."

I agree with and share the outrage of the Times’ editorial. To try to save human lives by leaving water along the route of illegal entry should be applauded, not condemned.  However, I disagree with the Times’ solution and its reference to those illegal aliens whom they refer to as "migrants."  They can't even bring themselves to call them by their rightful name: illegal aliens. The Times apparently believes in open borders for the United States. Anyone, they apparently maintain, can enter the US without authorization. 

As far as I know, no country in the world has "open borders," nor should they. The Times believes the next major issue - immigration reform - will be addressed by President Obama in 2010, and "that the only real solution to the border problem [is] immigration reform that gives people an alternative."

The alternative they espouse is granting amnesty to the estimated 12 to 20 million people in this country illegally and allowing them to apply for American citizenship, instead of being required to return to their home countries.

The Times condemns the border fence, saying it "disrupts migration and feeding for rare and endangered animals." However, birds fly over the fence, and exits for other animals are undoubtedly provided in the fence or should be. It is reminiscent of the argument that caused the junking of Westway when I was Mayor. Those opposed to Westway said the rotted piers in the Hudson were needed by the striped bass in order to spawn. I said that if that was the case, I was willing to provide the fish with a waterfront motel in Poughkeepsie. Regrettably, the environmentalists won.

The American people rarely rise up in wrath. They are doing so now, as they did when Congress tried with the support of the leadership of both national parties to pass amnesty legislation when Bush was president. An effort will again be made next year. Citizens, gird your loins, get ready to fight again.

The health care debate goes on.  Across America, the arguments are becoming less strident, and the President's voice has entered the debate with a calming influence. His most vociferous opponents see in him an uncanny ability to get to the heart of any disagreement and, through his remarkable skills of persuasion, to often bring opponents to his side.

Those reading my commentaries on the subject know where I stand.  I support the current efforts to provide universal medical insurance at affordable cost. I want the coverage provided to be adequate so as to eliminate the problem of the 25 million under insured Americans and the 47 million others who have no insurance.  I support a government option that receives the same subsidies that private, voluntary and profit-making providers get, so they compete on a level playing field.

According to the Times of August 16, the President in his town hall appearances on health care has cited the plight of real families with real medical problems in need of solutions. The article reported that, "Mr. Obama used each of these families to make the case that, if his proposed overhaul goes through, insurers will be barred from imposing lifetime caps, dropping patients and refusing care for preexisting conditions."

I think the President has to spell out in greater detail how such expanded coverage will be paid for. Will the premium be the same as for a totally healthy applicant? Will the premium, if greater, be regulated by the government - which I believe it should be? Will the government provide a subsidy to the insurance company or will the company be permitted to pass the costs along to all of its subscribers? Surely, these are questions that need answering now.

On my television program, Wiseguys on NY1, which I share each week with former Senator Al D'Amato and former New York State Comptroller Carl McCall, the latter made a statement that goes to the heart of the issue. He said, in substance, that the President has failed to address the most important part of the health constituency - those who are satisfied with their current private insurance policies, for which they or their employers were paying the premiums.

The Times article referred to that group, reporting that, "An estimated 80 percent of Americans already have insurance, and Mr. Obama must persuade them that overhauling the system will make it work better for them - as well as for the millions who stand to gain from an expansion of coverage."

In an earlier Times article, those like myself who believe in having adequate, indeed more than adequate insurance, were told it is not certain our self-paid policies would be unaffected by the proposed new law.  The Times of August 10 reported that, "The legislation could have significant implications for individuals who have bought coverage on their own. Their policies might be exempted from the new standards, but the coverage might not be viable for long because insurers could not add benefits or enroll additional people in non-compliant policies."

Is it selfish on the part of those like myself, who have policies that are not dependent on government subsidies, to question the new proposals? I don't think so, and unless our concerns are adequately answered by the president, they will continue to cause the president unnecessary grief and prevent many people from giving full-throated support to his crusade.
                            
Why is it that no one, apparently including the press, has asked the president at his town hall meetings why he caved to the pharmaceutical industry and gave up on allowing Medicare to use volume discounts that could easily save Medicare well over $80 billion a year on its drug purchases. The best example of potential savings was reported by Stanley Crouch, a highly regarded columnist, writing in the Daily News: "Under Medicare, the in-demand cholesterol drug Zocor costs $1,485 for a year's supply. The Veterans Administration, which can negotiate with drug companies over prices, gets the same year-long supply for $127!" 

This is not a gossip column, so forgive me for mentioning that Michelle Obama, who is not only intellectually brilliant, has become a true fashion trendsetter. First bare arms, and now short shorts. So far as I can recall, no First Lady in our history has dared the shorts. Jackie Kennedy Onassis did the bare arms. Three cheers for Michelle Obama.

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1  |   Jo Ellen Davey Cohen Chicago, Illinois, Tuesday Aug 18, 2009
The NY Times: 'Obamacare in the Desert' is a more accurate description of the universal healthcare plan providing insurance coverage for an estimated 30 million illegal aliens in America. Mr. Obama's lies of omission (insurance coverage for illegal aliens) must be factored into the overall cost of his plan; that said, the Obama healthcare plan is DOA. Duplicitous best describes Barack Obama... he has not been forthright with the American public with respect to the scope and cost to the citizens of the United States. His socialist agenda is no longer camouflaged in simplistic rhetoric.
2  |   Whatever, Tuesday Aug 18, 2009
People who once entered US without authorization, even if that was through their (grand)parents, or their ancestors hundreds of years ago, can't tell others (now) they can't get in (to travel or stay). The Right to do that they don't have, cos as good as all of them shouldn't even be there if it is that they do want to restrict access to a country that basically never has been theirs!
3  |   Morton Friedman Lanham, MD, Wednesday Aug 19, 2009
This educated consumer gets his Zocor equivalent for $40 a year. Without government help. No Ed, this is NOT a Health Care bill, it is a blatant attempt to dismantle another industry in the USA, and replace it with government experts. Hardly a word about the 'Care' part, and what goes into its cost structure. Little things like torts, and its result in defensive medecine, Bloated 'Boards', Michelle was worth every penny she got, but it wasn't just pennies. Closed Shop unionism that severely limits para-medics. A long list, none of the above was in that 1000 pages. Go, Obama!! Right. Ed?
4  |   Amnon, the Great AMERICAN Southwest, Wednesday Aug 19, 2009
Your buddy, Ed, Obama supports the ILLEGALS. He not only will not restrict their coming here, even as they adversely affected our economy and play a major role in the shut down of our health system, he and his pro-ILLEGAL director of Homeland Security (having Governor Janet in that role is a sick laugh) aid and abet the ILLEGAL mindset. Well, what do you expect from a child in a pew who raised our taxes with Cap and Spend and is trying to with boguscare, but who knew how to throw away 900 mil to Hamas? Remember, 2010 is around the corner. Vote out the Dem traitors and illegal advocates
5  |   Rivka Israel, Wednesday Aug 19, 2009
To #2, my family entered the United States legally and have worked and paid taxes for four generations. Who has the right to say that the hardworking members of my US family and many others have to pay for everyone who decides they can live better in the US but not even try to apply for legal entry, In this economy we can barely feed our own and we have to pay for evey illegal as well? People who do the work should be able to decide where their tzedaka goes.
6  |   David...Florida, Wednesday Aug 19, 2009
I'm all for universal care....as long as the president, members of congress, supreme court justices and all gov't workers take part in it and don't get any 'EXTRAS' that we the people can't get. In other words, no pigs that are more equal than the rest of us farm animals. Oh, and one more condition....that it be paid for today...not tomorrow.
7  |   John Pound, Dallas, TX, USA, Wednesday Aug 19, 2009
If we want to solve the illegal immigration problem for good, at least from Mexico, why is it that we don't concentrate more on helping the Mexican people to improve conditions in their own country so that their citizens won't feel the need to come to the US to survive?
8  |   Mike Silver, Wednesday Aug 19, 2009
On one hand you oppose illegal immigration. On the other you buy into the 47 million uninsured Democratic talking point. How inconsistant can you get? Half of them are illegals. It's backdoor amnesty.
9  |   james burke, Thursday Aug 20, 2009
Michelle Obama is intellectually brilliantbecause only NOW is she proud of the Us where her and her husband used to earn $500 mill. per year for doing things that noone has yet explained. Ed Koch is either an idiot or seems like an idiot. Either way, his column is void of anything usable.
10  |   Joseph Lessard, Thursday Aug 20, 2009
Wow! I'm stunned. For a change I agree with Mr. Koch. No nation on earth can exist without secure borders. America is the only country I know that is expected to have open borders. Any American who speaks up about the need for this is immediatley demonized by the liberals, and illegal immigrant special interest groups as being a racist. Why is it being racist to want your own nation to be secure? I am sick of liberals, and their friends in the media demonizing good Americans who want a secure nation. We cannot take in the entire world. A small amount of legal immigration is alright.
11  |   Efi, Israel, Thursday Aug 20, 2009
I don't understand how America, the only superpower on the planet, is having such hard time moving towards giving all of its citizens a basic human right, free healthcare! Seriously, what is wrong with that country.
12  |   Shalom, Thursday Aug 20, 2009
Mr. Mayor, you're a [hony!. Anyone who wants to discuss this healthcare issue should bring up the illegal alliens problem, malpractice insurance and defensive medicine that drive up the cost of the present system. Another thing: how many people are required to manage the new system? Who will pay them and how much? Your weekly blogs are just plain stupidities!
13  |   Ricardo - USA, Thursday Aug 20, 2009
I live in a small town in the midwestern USA. We are now being required to show two forms of I.D. to obtain a driver's license, including one with our name AND address on it such as a utility bill. Before there was only a couple people ahead of you and little waiting. Now the lines are four across and the wait is over an hour. This is what the influx of illegals is slowly doing to our country. Increased security measures are slowly eroding away the peace. Or are elements of government doing this intentionally? Hire more clerks. Raise taxes. Sounds like socialism. Or maybe democrats?
14  |   John Reilly San Diego, Thursday Aug 20, 2009
Answer to #7 J Pound: 1. It is NOT the responsibility of the USA to "helping the Mexican people to improve conditions in their own country". That is the responsibilty of the Mexican people and Government. 2. It IS the responsibility of the U.S. Government to deport illegal aliens, all of them, in accordance with U.S. law. 3. If the U.S. Government is going to "help" any "people", that would be the American people.
15  |   Ted, California, Thursday Aug 20, 2009
Fascinating! Mayor Koch assumes a level-playing field between private insurance and its government competition. Will the government insurance pay taxes to itself in order not to have an unfair advantage over the traditional companies? How will this be done, exactly? The Mayor also relishes the idea of squeezing as much money as possible from the drug companies. Did he notice that over 80% of the so-called miracle drugs were invented, developed and financed by big, bad Pharma? Lacking the financial incentive for new drugs will the government also take over the pharmaceutical industry? Terrific!
16  |   Carey San Diego, Friday Aug 21, 2009
Thanks, I agree with your analysis of the current Immigration Debate.
17  |   Larry California, Saturday Aug 22, 2009
I like Obama as a man, an individual, however I don't feel is up to being Pres. Nanci Pelosi and Harry Reid are left to making policy, Rahm Emanuel runs the country, Barak Obama is in constant campaign mode. He says one thing at one event and another at the next event. He keeps making up his own history like with his great uncle and the concetration camps and how he and Michael met. I am worried all this fame has sent him over the edge. He couldn't even meet the Queen of England without his teleprompter? What is up with that. Nice guy but he worries me.
18  |   DG, Sunday Aug 23, 2009
Koch has lost his edge. No explanation how we can gut medicare yet take on millions more while the population of doctors remains relatively the same and not have rationing. Maybe his own wealth has separated him from the common man. Shame! The ex mayor no longer indulges rational thinking. Also, no mention of the increased reach of the government which will include forced audits and direct access to bank accounts as well. Maybe the ex mayor has not thought out the Marxist and fascist implications of this charade impersonating 'CHANGE', then again maybe the ex mayor has!
19  |   Joseph, USA, Wednesday Aug 26, 2009
America is one small boat in an ocean of nations; too many people in the boat and it sinks. That is what is happening to America today. We cannot take in the entire world. We are a fare people and allow some legal immigration. However, the illegal immigration needs to stop--and illegals must go home. This does not make me a racist, you liberal big mouths out there. It makes me a patriot who doesn't want to see his country over run and destroyed by foreign hordes. Liberals want open borders--but want other people to pay for the illegals. They call others racists--yet won''t drop a dime.
20  |   cares1996, Saturday Aug 29, 2009
The only reason a party would advocate amnesty for illegals is to give them voting rights,unfortunately they have so little faith in the policies they support,they feel the need to find people that don`t know who they are,gather them and have the odacity to to tell them what good patriots they are for illegally entering our nation.In recognition of there patriotic spirit they may immediately sign up for public assistance,housing&yes of course heathcare.No don`t worry we can`t hold you responsible for crimes your not a citizen,just vote democrat and we`ll take care of you.
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