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Tuesday Aug 25, 2009
Koch's Comments: The insurance and drug industries must be defeated Posted by Ed Koch
Comments: 25
Carthago delenda est are words I recall from my days as a student at South Side High School in Newark, New Jersey, now called Malcolm X Shabazz High. I attended South Side High from 1937 to 1941, and in those days its core curriculum required the study of Latin. We learned that every day in the Roman Senate, Cato the Elder rose from his seat to say to his colleagues, Carthago delenda est - Carthage must be destroyed. In fact, it ultimately was destroyed by the Romans and its very earth salted so that nothing would ever live there. I believe that to this day, Carthage is a ruin. We Americans are facing in the health insurance and pharmaceutical industries a threat at least as powerful and destructive to our medical safety and security as Rome faced with regard to its territorial security in those ancient days. We need a Cato the Elder in each House of Congress to stand up every day and sound the alarm and to challenge his and her colleagues with the battle cry, "Citizens, gird your loins and prepare for battle; the insurance and drug industries must be defeated." Currently, those insurance industries have an exemption from the anti-trust laws of the nation, which exemption must be revoked. Consumers are prohibited from crossing state lines in retaining insurance companies to cover them, and I have no doubt there are many other protections provided to insurers of which we are unaware. In the case of the pharmaceutical companies, we know of at least two enormous rip-offs that were given to them by the Republicans and President George W. Bush that the Obama administration shockingly continues. First is that Medicare, which buys hundreds of billions of dollars of prescription drugs annually for the elderly covered by that agency, is expressly forbidden by law to seek volume discounts from its suppliers. Medicare pays enormous amounts compared with other entities, public and private. Stanley Crouch, a highly regarded reporter for The Daily News, recently reported in his column that, "Under Medicare, the in-demand cholesterol drug Zocor costs $1,485 for a year's supply. The Veterans Administration, which can negotiate with drug companies over prices, gets the same year-long supply for $127!" The second huge rip-off is the prohibition on Americans' purchasing American-manufactured drugs sold in other countries at hugely discounted prices. For example, due to the American drug manufacturer's elimination of research and development costs from the price of drugs sold elsewhere, drugs in Canada are available at up to 50 percent less than the same drugs in the US. When the Bush administration controlled Congress, the Democrats in Congress, including I believe candidate Obama, made clear their opposition to these blatantly anti-consumer acts. Now that the Democrats are in control of both Houses and the White House, one would have thought both of these onerous policies would have been ended. Not so. They both still stand, and President Obama has given his blessing to their continuation. Is this not a sell-out by the administration of the public? I think it is. The President's spokesman confirmed the validity of the settlement announced by the drug industry that its financial contributions to the proposed new comprehensive legislation will be a total of $80 billion over a 10-year period, i.e. $8 billion per year, and the Medicare limitation of no volume discounts will stay in place. Volume discounts at only 10% would produce savings of $80b. a year to the government on the more than $800b. in prescription drugs that will be purchased by it. If the discount were 30%, which is more likely, the savings to the government would be $240b. a year. Why are the Democratic Congress and president being so kind and beneficent to the drug manufacturers and insurance companies? We know that these two industries pour millions into the campaign coffers of those in Congress running for reelection. We also know they also pay for television commercials supporting the Obama healthcare initiative. President Obama's approval ratings continue to slide. There will be a two-year bi-election next year in 2010, and this issue of healthcare will continue to dominate the political discussion. I predict that if the Democrats and President Obama continue to be seen as selling out the public - as they are now - the Democrats will lose control of both Houses, and if the insurance and pharmaceutical companies are not restrained in their ravenous assaults upon the US public, many Democrats will be crossing party lines, not because they like Republican policies, but to teach their own party that Democratic voters are not fools and will not permit their leaders to take advantage of us. Remember, Democrats put them there and Democrats can throw them out. Members of Congress who do not want to reap the whirlwind, I urge you to stand up every day and shout out in both Houses of Congress the equivalent of Carthago delenda est.
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Ted, California,
Tuesday Aug 25, 2009
Carthago delenda est is an apt theme for the Mayor's latest adventure into the Left field. Cato repeated those words of hatred until a great civilization was destroyed. Now, by trying to squeeze its profits, Koch wants to destroy the industry that gave the world so many life-extending medicines including some that he surely may be using himself. Note that Mr. Koch the Lawyer does not say a word about tort reform that would remove the threat of frivolous jury awards against the medical profession, reduce the need for defensive medicine, and decrease the enormous medical insurance rates.
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moron galut,
Tuesday Aug 25, 2009
mayor koch--most democrat voters are fools-not you because you supported president bush in 2000 and 2004-but today's democrats support surrender to terror,highrer taxes ,and 'identity' politics and these whacked out views and giving an inexperienced leftist community organizer the presidency make the democrat core fools for sure--windmills will power their cars and pigs will fly!..if any seniors were suffering under bush's drug program msnbc would have reported it every hour during the election last year--this did not happen!
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avraham m tampa fl.,
Tuesday Aug 25, 2009
how come my insulin for an insulin pump is 180.00 for 2 bottles yet insulin for shots is only 75.00 for 2 bottles. a medicine for my arteries is 15.00 until you hit the donut hole then it's 150.00 for a month supply.not being able to afford it on disability i ended up having surgery costing over 65,000.00,and given coumadin(same make up as rat poison)?i'm not cost effetive for obamacare!! yet i love life and want to live!! why won't the politicians go on the same plan they want me on?? because the pale horse follows which is death..!!!
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RJ,
Tuesday Aug 25, 2009
This democrat, true believer in government, uses old Latin quotes to sooth us...for what purpose? Like a finely trained lawyer, he prepares his field of battle with carefully chosen words. Who is the enemy here? Mr. Businessman clothed in drug production and insurance policies...the big villains!
They must be controlled or destroyed into a new model designed by government, right?
Lawyers are so smart: They offer up quotes by Romans of stature. Ok, I'll play this game.
What did Plato have to say about lawyers over 2300 years ago?
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Daniel-Atlanta,
Tuesday Aug 25, 2009
Ed. if the Republicans win back the Congress, the big money people will have won. Most of us ordinary Americans see through what is going on now. We realize that a President alone, no matter how well intentioned, cannot pass legislation. Obama has a good heart, not a Reagan-Bush heart, so things will come out in the end that will benefit the American public. Reagan, Bush I, and Bush Jr. had 20 years to mess up America, and they did a very good job of messing it up. Obama will not be able to fix it in two. If you think Obama's ratings are low, look at those for the Republicans in Congress.
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Mike,
Tuesday Aug 25, 2009
Assuming Koch is correct, why can't these reforms be enacted without completely overhauling our health system without sociializing medicine with Obamacare?
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DM, NYC,
Tuesday Aug 25, 2009
The insurance and drug industries must be defeated ??? Spoken like a true Marxist.
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Howard in Toronto,
Tuesday Aug 25, 2009
Canadian drugs are cheaper in part because the Canadian government subsidizes the cost through income taxes. If people from outside Canada, who do not pay Canadian taxes are permitted to purchase these drugs at discounted prices then in the Canadian taxpayer would be subsidizing these foreign purchases. This action would also lead to increased drug costs for Canadians.
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Jo Ellen Davey Cohen Chicago, Illinois,
Tuesday Aug 25, 2009
Ethos, Pathos and Soros: Carthage must be destroyed. Obamacare must be defeated. Candidate Barack Obama received large contributions from the radical influential insurance magnate George Soros. Now Mr. Soros expects a return on his money, and it's time for Mr. Obama to pay the piper.
Americans were easily 'bamboozled' (Autobiography of Malcolm X) by the pompous Candidate Obama, with a fervent desire for change we can believe in. This is our collective burden to assume after electing an inexperienced 'windy city' Candidate from Chicago.
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Fred New York,
Tuesday Aug 25, 2009
I opened your blog expecting to see you railing at Obama for allowing his Attorney General Holder to neuter the CIA at a critical juncture in the War on Foreign Contingencies, or whatever Obama Admin. is calling terrorism these days. Instead, I get a typical liberal screed that Obama is not being radical enough, and blaming the Drug and Insurance Companies for creating the best healthcare system in the world. I hope you enjoy the presidency of The One you helped get elected. Well, I guess you're happy that 17 year old tarts can continue to get abortions since that's why you voted for him.
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Jonah in Jamaica,
Tuesday Aug 25, 2009
#1 Ted: There is no such thing as a frivilous malpractice case. They are time consuming, difficult for many reasons to process and most importantly extremely expensive to pursue.No lawyer who has any idea what he is doing would take a "frivilous" case. You would expect that if it truly was frivilous that a jury would render a verdict for the defendant - despite the fact that a physician must testify for the plaintiff in order to prove the negligence of the defendant. In New York in order to even begin a case the lawyer must certify that a knowledgeable doctor found merit to the lawsuit.
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Morton Friedman Lanham, MD,
Tuesday Aug 25, 2009
Is Koch finally waking up to Obama's lies? To be sure, ObamaCare, is finally getting many off their duffs. This is perhaps your first essay that was not a whitewash. Will there be more?
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Shel Zahav,
Tuesday Aug 25, 2009
Baseball also is protected by the US Congress from the anti-trust legislation that applies to other industries. Look at those salaries! They make more than CEOs and you know what the Obamanation thinks about CEOs. Heck, they don't vote DemocRAT.
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bannister ,USA,
Tuesday Aug 25, 2009
The Alternative to Change is change. When the current course is unsustainable a change will happen.
The question is the nature of the change.
Japan has the longest life expectancy on the planet and they have a public health care plan.
Their cars are more competitive than ours.
We now have the Old the poor the Military and Veterans on a government plan.
The Middle class just pays for it all through cost shifted premiums.
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golem USA,
Wednesday Aug 26, 2009
LOL, exactly WHICH 'medicine' are we talking about?
Modern medicine does provides exactly ZERO extension of life medicines.
The only thing big pharma does is sell drugs that ONLY DO DAMAGE to the bodies delicate organs... Not to mention line their own pockets while selling the illusion of modernity.
The BEST thing you can do for your health is eat right, stay away from ALL processed foods, not to mention stay away from your MD/Big Pharma drug pushers.
Big Insurance... You pay them for the promise to be there.
Their greed is the stuff of legend.
Get a clue. :)
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Stuart Creque, USA,
Wednesday Aug 26, 2009
Mr. Mayor is absolutely right. Pharmaceutical companies shouldn't be wasting money on advertising, or lobbying, or research and development to create new drugs and treatments. They should be selling their existing products to the government at or below cost, until they go completely bust and stop producing any products at all. Is this the best thinking of the Democratic Party on advancing the state of the art of healthcare?
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Colin Beck, Surrey, B.C., Canada,
Wednesday Aug 26, 2009
#2 Avraham, during the 1970's 70 cents out of every dollar raised by the United Appeal in Canada went towards administration, and only 30 cents went to care for the person who was suffering from an affliction. The computer has no doubt minimized the administration costs, but it has also probably made for hefty salary increases too! --- Thomas Jefferson said; '' I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labours of the people under the pretense of taking care of them. '' ... '' Most bad government comes from too much government. ''
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Colin Beck, Surrey, B.C., Canada,
Wednesday Aug 26, 2009
'' Debts make some virtues impractical; while others; impossible! '' I don't doubt ''the sincerity of effort'' of the major drug and insurance firms. If you look at America's public, corporate and personal debt situation it does lend a perspective to the situation. I believe that the state should pay for the exams and lab tests. The people should have the option of a government or private operation. The money Canada is pouring into Afghanistan could pay for the treatment of diabetes. All the Afghans pour into Canada is opium. Iraq and Afghanistan deserve a good cop, but not all our money.
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Ben, USA,
Wednesday Aug 26, 2009
Dear Mr. Koch,
I don't know about the insurance companies but so you really want to destroy the pharmaceutical companies that produced at least 90-95% of the drugs that saved my life, and probably yours?
What medical or pharmaceutical innovations have come from all those countries that have a socialized health care system and nationalized pharmaceutical companies?
You an I know he answer - almost nothing!
So, don't throw out the baby with the bath-water and be careful what you wish for.
If you want the healthcare system of Cuba you'll get it and it is not going to be pretty.....
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Ger, Raanana,
Wednesday Aug 26, 2009
In every article, Koch finds some Obama policy to be detrimental to the average wage-earner, yet he closes his eyes and ears, and holds his nose while he tells us that he was right in endorsing Obama.
With 3 years to the next Presidential election to go, Koch will have trouble telling us that Obama should be reelected.
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Jay,
Wednesday Aug 26, 2009
this is the first time i have agreed with Mr Koch in any article he has written. I am very impressed the way he nails down the problems with insurance and the drug cartels. worse yet mr. koch is that these cartels are allowed to sell recreational or non mandatory drugs on TV - this should be illegal - because it has made much worse the drug dependent society we have today....
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AD, Passaic, New Jersey, USA,
Thursday Aug 27, 2009
Drug pricing is more complex than Koch thinks.Drugs are priced differently for each market.The price in Thailand cannot be the same as the price in Angola or Japan.Reimbursement rates differ, subsidies differ, ability to pay differs, among other factors.To be truly equitable in Koch's view, the price should be the same equally low price for all.This cannot be since the pioneer drug companies must be able to recover their investment to develop the drug. Academic studies have shown this to be upwards of $800B per drug.Without lots of profit, we will not benefit from new drugs.
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Simon Dale Alabama US,
Thursday Aug 27, 2009
I love to read interesting post that has knowledge to impart regarding current issues! Thank you for sharing your insights! I will avidly wait for your next blog entry.
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cares1996,
Friday Aug 28, 2009
To imply insurance & drug are bad or misbehaving is like an indictment on yourself,the gov. issues the regulations and regulators i mean if the banks,mortgage co.,car makers,wall st.,big oil,big business,,darn deisel gobbling trucks,trains,buses not to mention them gas gusseling cars and planes,and boats is darn near retarded.Hold on I`m trying to drive and my blackberry slipped under the seatbelt at the same time that helmutless guy riding his motorcycle cut me off going 100mph.Wew that was close almost hit old guy,no worry he wasn`t economically viable anyway.Or was he a member.
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Joe, USA,
Saturday Aug 29, 2009
Drug and insurance companies are just 2 factors in a multi-factor mess. One of the biggest problems is lawyers. Doctors have to constantly do things to keep from being sued. Look at Mississippi. They call it Disney Land for lawyers. It's so bad there you can't even find an OB doctor anymore. However, no politician wants to mention tort reform. Why is that? Well, because lawyers are stuffing rolls of money into the politicians pockets. Money talks and B.S. walks as the saying goes. However, government takeover is not the answer. Goverment control is not the answer. No Obama lies needed here.
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