Tuesday Jan 22, 2008

Koch's Comments: On Hillary, Rudy and the economy

Posted by Ed Koch
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Hillary Clinton's victory in Nevada was especially important and unexpected. Nevada is a caucus state, meaning that it does not have a secret ballot. Voting is up front with all to see how you are voting. The Culinary Workers' Union, which is one of the most successful and aggressive unions in the country, endorsed Barack Obama.
 
Those standing up for Hillary at the Nevada caucuses were pledging their vote in public, taking on the union leadership and risking their good standing with the organization. Nevertheless, the workers did it and Hillary in a three-way race won not merely a plurality, but a majority (50.71 percent). Now it's on to South Carolina, an even more difficult race. Fifty percent of South Carolina voters are African-Americans, who until recently, were overwhelmingly for Hillary, notwithstanding that Obama is an African-American candidate with a record of achievement - not as good as Hillary's, in my opinion due to lack of experience. 
 
Obama is personable, physically attractive, and smart. He appears to be favored by more than 50 percent of South Carolina voters. I expect Obama to win South Carolina and, if he does, it will not be because of racism. During my many years of political involvement, I have observed that in most elections the electorate will, when the choice involves candidates of different race, ethnicity and religion, vote for the person who they believe is most like them in those respects, unless the opponent is seen as substantially better qualified.
 
So it will not in my book be an act of racism if Obama wins in South Carolina.  It will be an act of group identification, practiced by whites, Hispanics and others all over America. Next Saturday, the eyes of the world will be focused on South Carolina.  I shall be praying once again for Hillary, who is the most qualified candidate. Hey, it worked the last time.
 
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I believe Rudy Giuliani's chances of becoming the Republican nominee for president are dim. When you think about his reasoning, and why he believed he had a chance, it boggles my mind that so many of us were worried.
 
Rudy’s stated belief was and is that Florida voters will save him. Who in Florida? The New Yorkers who have emigrated there to spend the balance of their lives in sunny, winterless Florida? Those people -- predominately elderly New York Jews, with whom Rudy did well as mayor -- are overwhelmingly registered Democrats. I found that out myself when I campaigned in 2004 for President George W. Bush whom I said was the only candidate who understood the threat of international Islamic terrorism and was willing to stand up to it. I stated on every occasion that I did not agree with him on a single domestic issue, but that the single issue of Islamic terrorism trumped all other issues since it posed an existential threat to Western civilization. I recall how difficult it was for me to persuade Jewish Floridians to cross party lines and vote for George W. Bush. One particular senior citizen, a woman, stood up and denounced me, telling the crowd that in effect I was asking them to desert Franklin Delano Roosevelt, an act for which she demanded that the crowd figuratively stone me. My point?  Those New York Jews whom Rudy is counting on are registered Democrats and will not be voting for him in Florida. I predict that Rudy’s presidential run will end on January 29th, and those like myself who believe he is a nasty man, will breath easier.
 
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I doubt that any of the proposed economic stimulus plans aimed at preventing the anticipated recession will work.We are in a capitalist economy which is historically cyclical in nature. Our current boom has been a an extended one, and therefore, to a large extent, a recession is inevitable. Most economic  stimulus plans have historically come too late to prevent an oncoming recession. They almost always kick in after the recession is over and the economy is on the rebound. So, the question is how to get any proposed economic stimulus working faster.  In the past, many of our citizens, out of fear, did not spend tax rebates and other handouts provided by the government.
 
I propose giving moderate and low income Americans debit cards with the same amount of cash on it which if not spent within nine months reverts to the government. That will, without a doubt, get money flowing into the economy immediately. If you have a better idea, let me know.

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1  |  Terry, London, Thursday Jan 24, 2008
The man who presided over a New York in which you wouldn't let your mother walk to the corner to get milk has the gaul to call the man who cleaned up his mess 'nasty'. Ed Koch is a clown. A has-been, butt-of-jokes clown, who should be made to live in the New York over which he presided. Clown. To the Jewish vote in the US (and in Israel) - like lemmings over the cliff. How long will the Jewish community stand firmly by candidates who lead them (willingly!!) to the cliff? Truly unbelievable.
2  |  Ted, USA, Thursday Jan 24, 2008
Hillary, Mr. Koch says, is the most qualified candidate. Qualified for what, and by whom? As a possible Commander-in-Chief isn't she the one who accused Gen Petraeus of lying when the General was telling the truth? As a domestic reformer, wasn't her "Universal Health Plan" rejected by a Democrat-dominated Senate? If anything, Mrs. Clinton is an artificial candidate --selected by the Party machine to become the next President by having her elected Senator in a safely Democratic state with which she had no previous connection -- not by birth, nor by time spent there. Some qualifications !
3  |  Bob Schlesinger, Thursday Jan 24, 2008
Clearly--both for Israel and the U.S.-- Senator Clinton is the most qualified of those left in the Democratic primary contests. Since there is a substantial chance that the Democrat will win her nomination is critical. The other two guys stopped off in the Senate just long enough to change clothes and begin to run for President. Their Iraq policy consists of "Surrender Now" snatching defeat from the jaws of possible victory and almost certainly bringing chaos to the region.
4  |  vinny, Thursday Jan 24, 2008
ed koch's assessments are a part of his sense of humor, and everything he said should be viewed this way. Essentially he is a clown. Please do not take advice from clowns. As far as Monica Lewinsky's ex-boyfriend's wife being a candidate for president, I would think that Lewinsky has more office experience and should be nominated instead. Her single winning platform could be normalizing relations with cuba and bringing cigars back into USA.
5  |  vinny, Thursday Jan 24, 2008
I love the description on the right: your legenday former nyc mayor....where exactly is he a legend? public bathhouses? his own ego? where?
6  |  cberkman - monsey, Thursday Jan 24, 2008
Rudy was disliked and hated the city employees. He tried to break all the unions and thought that they were goldbricks. He left the city with a hugh deficit that his successor had to eliminate. Does this sound familiar? His "claim to fame" was that he was mayor when the World Trade Center was bombed. He was so smart that his office of emergency management was in the same buildings that were bombed in 1992! How smart was that? If you disagreed with Rudy, you were cut off. At least Ed Koch has tried to make the city safer and a better place. Vote him OUT!!!!!
7  |  Grigore Unsu, NJ, Thursday Jan 24, 2008
It is beyond me to comprehend why former NY Mayor Koch prays for a sinister demagogue. Her qualifications to lead this country AND its people are, at best, mediocre, while her propensity for straight talk... Ed Koch is an intelligent man, perhaps he is pushing for Billary because "they" look un-electable to many in this country?
8  |  Peter Brand, Thursday Jan 24, 2008
No consistancy here Ed. If you were for Bush in 04' why are you now for Hillary. Clearly the only candidate in the field who is willing to stand up against radical Islam is none other then JOHN McCAIN. At this critical juncture we westerners must elect a man with some proven testicular fortitude.
9  |  Paul Zucker Phoenix, Arizona, Friday Jan 25, 2008
You are for Hillary because you've seen her do an outstanding job as senator from the state of New York. She has the most experience you say. Senator Barack Obama is a brilliant man! He would make a wonderful president. Sometimes experience is not better. This is such a case. Brilliance should be rewarded. Senator Biden should be picked as vice-president.
10  |  David from Brooklyn, Friday Jan 25, 2008
Will the real nasty man please stand up! Ed Koch is jealous of how well Giuliani ran the City compared to him. Koch was outraged since the time Rudy kicked Arafat out of Lincoln Center. He has been carrying out this petty tantrum now for more than 10 years. I am a Jew, and I am proudly for my favorite all time mayor of NYC. Note to Bloomberg... before you decide to run, I wrote in Rudy twice rather than vote for you once. I will vote for Rudy again over you for President.
11  |  Jo Ellen Davey Cohen Oak Park, IL, Friday Jan 25, 2008
Many people would hope that your prayers are not answered regarding the election of Hillary Rodham and Company. Husband, Bill is behaving like a hired 'hit-man' on the campaign trail, kneecapping Obama at every opportunity. Now, that's "NASTY!" The New York Senator has generated not one iota of inspirational "ready for change" rhetoric. America does not welcome another Clinton White House, and in particular a converted Oval Office to cigar parlor.
12  |  joe pyat, Friday Jan 25, 2008
Ed Koch is a greay guy and usually his analysis is very weighty. Not this time around. His antipathy via-a-vis Rudy, the former mayor who was able to clean up the mess Ed contributed to create to in the first place, might be understandable. But his belief in HRClinton - might not.
13  |  Dave in Pasadena, USA, Friday Jan 25, 2008
So Koch's idea of minimizing the recession is to give money to people and demand they spend it. This is the same bonehead economics of the Townshend Plan...the idea that if only people would consume more, then prosperity would reign. Be a patriot and buy stuff! Bah! It's just an excuse to confiscate wealth and give away goodies to voters. The nation is out of balance; we've got to consume a tad less and produce more. That's the hard fact that most politicians won't deliver. Does Koch actually believe his drivel, or is he just pandering?
14  |  Walt, Copperhill, Tennessee, USA, Friday Jan 25, 2008
Former Mayor Koch is a nice man who used his pleasant, humorous, and witty personality to captivate voters. Unfortunately, he was too nice to deal with the problems that he had to deal with. And has once again taken the nice guy approach in dealing with an unpleasant reality. I guess his nice guy mentality tells him that the candidate with strong ties to his pastor who strongly supports Louie Farrakhan and has the middle name of Hussein is not for him. Since his credentials are somewhat tarnished by 2004, I guess he was left with no other alternative but a New York Senator.
15  |  Orde, Friday Jan 25, 2008
There will be ZERO Dem. delegates chosen from Florida (penalty for violating national Dem party rules by moving up election), therefore, knowing their votes would be irrelevant, Democrats (and Independents!) have registered as Republicans for purposes of the primary (w/intention to switch back). So the media assertion that Florida will be the first primary to truly reflect the Republican sentiment is just not true, and Koch's point that NY Jews living in Florida are registered Democrats might be an overstatement given this year's primary circumstances.
16  |  Victor Galindo, Friday Jan 25, 2008
Those poor slob Jews who still worship Franklin Roosevelt will remain ignorant till the day they die. Roosevelt was the 'leader' who refused Jews about to be murdered entry to the US. The leader who allowed the murder factory, Auschwitz, to continue it's genocide. The leader who appointed a cabinet of anti-Semites-bar a few. The leader who warned the North African Arab leaders to be wary of Jews be let into North Africa. If you must worship a Roosevelt, then try Eleanor.
17  |  Ruslan Tokhchukov, Redmond, WA, USA, Friday Jan 25, 2008
Folks, do cross the party lines! Do vote for Rudy! This election is far too crucial to do politics as usual. Rudy is in a league of his own. He is the best for both the USA and Israel. Rise above the usual partisan politics for this occasion, for the sake of the USA and Israel! If Florida voters, Republican and Democrat, fail to elect Rudy, they will repeate the horrible blunder of the Democrat primary voters who chose Carter over the great Henry "Scoop" Jackson 32 years ago.
18  |  joe, salinas,ca.,usa, Saturday Jan 26, 2008
stfuyfm, what gives you the right to take my money and give it away. give your own money as you please, but get your damn hand out of my pocket.
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Ted, California: Dear Mr. Koch, your proposal to "direct the commercial banks to immediately commence loaning money to "creditworthy" applicants" sounds very much like the CR Act of the Carter Administration, as implemented under the Clinton Presidency. Certainly when Mr. Clinton forced the banks to stop "red lining" practices he did not mean that loan beneficiaries should not be "creditworthy" but that was precisely the result of interfering with the credit market. As things stand, neither Party seems to know how to solve the crisis but repeating a mistaken policy isn't likely to get a different result.
marie, usa: So where did the monies go? Some terrorism fund? Which reminds me, I wonder if they had that meeting at the Treasury Department yet (the one set for "Islamic financing 101.").... http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=80003
Steve-usa: Mr Mayor, where were you when you're colleagues,Schummer and Frank,etc, were railing against the banks for refusing to loan money to unqualified individuals as "rascist"?. When Banks were threatened with law suits for "red- lining" loans to "minorities" by Clinton? When even illegal aliens were given "no documentation" loans and "home ownership" was promoted as a right of all Americans? It was your neo-marxist Dems along with spineless, corrupt Republicans who pushed these ludicrous proposals that anyone could have told you was a losing proposition. Now, you want to "play dumb". Nice try.