Monday Sep 15, 2008

Koch's Comments: US safer in Obama's hands

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The time has come to declare whom I will be voting for.

When I made my decision four years ago and supported the reelection of George W. Bush, I said at the time the overwhelming issue for me was international Islamic terrorism, including al-Qaida. The goal of Islamic terrorists was and still is to reestablish the Caliphate encompassing most of the Muslims living in a host of nations from Spain to Indonesia and placing them under a single religious leader with full authority over the civil affairs of the countries, in the style of Iran. That goal includes the deaths or forced conversions of Christians and Jews as infidels or the payment by them of tribute, and the elimination of the State of Israel.

In 2004, I concluded that the one person running for president who understood that danger best and was prepared to fight it and defend America and its allies was George W. Bush. Even though he is now at a low ebb in popularity, I have no regrets for having campaigned and voted for him. I said at the time I didn't agree with him on a single domestic issue and so far as I can currently see that is still true with the exception of drilling for oil off our coasts and building nuclear energy plants. 

I believe that Bush and Tony Blair, Bush's main international ally with regard to the war in Iraq and against Islamic terrorism, will be redeemed by history. President Harry Truman was reviled when he left office, but is now honored for his courage and vision.

Now, once again, I have to make a decision to either endorse the Democratic ticket of Obama and Biden or support the Republican ticket of McCain and Palin. I am 83 years old. If I am lucky, I may yet vote not only in this election, but in the presidential election of 2012 and perhaps, if luckier, even in that of 2016. I believe I must vote my conscience, and that means for the presidential candidate who in my estimation will best protect the US over the next four years.

I personally know two of those running: Joe Biden and John McCain. I like and admire them both. John McCain is a genuine war hero and patriot. Joe Biden is a friend well versed in foreign and domestic affairs, who had made judgment calls on domestic and foreign policy and legislation that I agree with. I do not personally really know the Democratic presidential candidate, Barack Obama, having spoken to him only once and briefly, or the Republican vice presidential candidate, Sarah Palin.

One foreign policy issue that particularly concerned me in 2004 was the security of Israel. I thought in 2004 that issue was better left to President George W. Bush, and I believe I was right. President Bush understood the need to support the security of Israel and did so. I did not feel that way about Senator John Kerry.

That is not an issue in this election. Both parties and their candidates have made clear, before and during this election campaign their understanding of the need to support Israel and oppose acts of terrorism waged against it by Hamas and other Muslim supporters of terrorism.

So the issue for me is who will best protect and defend America. 

I have concluded that the country is safer in the hands of Barack Obama, leader of the Democratic Party and protector of the philosophy of that party. Protecting and defending the US means more than defending us from foreign attacks. It includes defending the public with respect to their civil rights, civil liberties and other needs, e.g., national health insurance, the right of abortion, the continuation of Social Security, gay rights, other rights of privacy, fair progressive taxation and a host of other needs and rights.

If the vice president were ever called on to lead the country, there is no question in my mind that the experience and demonstrated judgment of Joe Biden is superior to that of Sarah Palin. Sarah Palin is a plucky, exciting candidate, but when her record is examined, she fails miserably with respect to her views on the domestic issues that are so important to the people of the US, and to me. Frankly, it would scare me if she were to succeed John McCain in the presidency.

I reiterate the question each of us must answer in making our choice, who will best protect and defend America, domestically and with respect to the literal defense of the country? I hope I've made the right decision but only time will tell.

Whoever wins should and, I hope, will, following the election, receive the support of all Americans, no matter how they voted, especially in these perilous times. God Bless America and the next president and vice president of the US.

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1  |   Basefare, Monday Sep 15, 2008
I have liked and appreciated this man Ed Kock since before he ran for mayor of New York. What I liked about him for the most part was, I agreed with him and what I appreciated was the depth of his thinking and his clarity in voicing his thoughts. I thought he was a good mayor. I'm glad to know he has a blog and I'm glad that the JP carries it. Ed, I hope you do vote in that 2016 election. I hope too, I'll be there to supplement your vote or to counterman it. If there is a God (and we have no way of knowing) I hope he blesses Ed Koch.
2  |   Odesa, Tuesday Sep 16, 2008
Mr mayor. Your endorsment of Obama is well supported, and I agree. There is however one problem. Why you felt, to mention on this occasion, the importance of religious cults. Do you really think, that Jewish cults ie.:judaism and christianity have some special mission in this world? God, if one exists, have no preferences in this respect. History is proof. Cultizm and tribal ties, need to be minimized, for civilization to progress.
3  |   Yussel, Monsey, NY, Tuesday Sep 16, 2008
Mr. Mayor, Your "voice of reason" has become a "voice of UNreason". Mr. Obama said he would meet with the president of iran, without preconditions. If your love of Israel is so strong, how can you refuse to acknowledge the difference between a cadidate who would meet with the man who calls for Israel's destruction and the candidate who refuses to do so?
4  |   Great Plainer - USA, Tuesday Sep 16, 2008
I enjoyed Ed Koch's comments very much, and his comments on more nuclear energy and off-shore drilling, I can agree with, but this is far as it goes. It appears that his choice of Presidential candidates is of a consistent quality-- wrong. I cannot see where the "Golden Mean" in social or political action can be associated very closely to either set of candidates. However, John McCain does come the closest to that ideal than any of the others. Senator Joseph Lieberman, was and still is more supportive of McCain than he is of Obama.
5  |   elliot-usa, Tuesday Sep 16, 2008
no reason given for trusting obama's inexperience more than palin except a laundry list of liberal 'values' on domestic issues..it is amazing how someone as bright asmayor koch-and he is not alone-fail to recognize that liberal left values lead inevitably to tolerance of evil,are anti-religion, and lead to maling the nation weak.bush's strong response to terrorism and support for israel which led mayor to vote republican last time are conservative,not liberal;the road to peace is not thru damascus!
6  |   R. Gittens Jr., Tuesday Sep 16, 2008
America needs socialist democrats like an unborn child needs planned parenthood.
7  |   Dave, Tuesday Sep 16, 2008
Who is Obama? What has he accomplished besides successfully promoting himself? McCain appointed a nobody from nowhere to be his VP? Perhaps America is no longer capable of leading the free world. America is incapable of thinking past the external appearance of a candidate, and gets its politics from daytime television. America hasn't achieved anything great since it landed on the moon. Time to go to Brazil?
8  |   Hilla halevi, Tuesday Sep 16, 2008
With all due respect to the ex mayor of NY- this is the shallowest article I have ever read. I do not believe that Obama government will support Israel. All his associates are pro Palestinians and to ignore it is dishonest and misleading. If Mr. Koch is scared by the possibility that Sarah palin might take McCain place – I am scared of the possibility that Obama will be elected. I trust Liberman judgment- he had more logic in his speech than Ed Koch has in this disingenuous blog.
9  |   Ger---Raanana, Israel, Tuesday Sep 16, 2008
Koch does not mention Brzezinski, Power, Farley, and Susan Rice, all anti-Israel, who are Obama's foreign policy advisors. He doesn't mention Rita Hauser and Jim Leach, Republicans who have endorsed Obama, but who are pro-Palestinian. There must be a reason for them to think Obama will look at the situation differently. He does not mention Biden's desire to send $200 million dollars to Iran, or his vote against the Kyl-Lieberman Amendment to declare Iran Revolutionary Guard terrorists. He doesn't mention Biden leading the fight against confirmation of John Bolton as Ambassador to the UN.
10  |   Steve Fla., Tuesday Sep 16, 2008
Yussel #3, I believe you have answered your own question, as did Mayor Ed Koch in this piece. Mr. Koch's love for Israel is eclipsed by his defense of a woman's right to choose to have an abortion. The right to an abortion trumps Israel, her welfare and her security. I am not a McCain supporter -- McCain, like Bush, supports Israel's dismemberment -- nor am I an Obama supporter Let's be honest. Israel is not upper most amongst Mayor Koch's priorities.
11  |   Jo Ellen Davey Cohen, Tuesday Sep 16, 2008
"So the issue for me is who will best protect and defend America?" Mayor Koch, please validate your decision to support Obama as the defender and protector of the American public interest with respect to the following issues: 1) civil rights, 2) civil liberties, 3) national health insurance, 4) right of abortion, 5) social security, 6) gay rights, 7) privacy rights, 8) progressive taxation. Please provide for the public interest Obama's record of legislative accomplishments on each of the listed issues. Obama's "Change we can believe in" is an inspirational topic for a sunday church sermon.
12  |   NIK - USA, Tuesday Sep 16, 2008
Extremism clothed in any religion, any race and any arena is not acceptable. Aren't there enough lessons in history to make this clear? Once EVERYONE realizes this, humanity will exist, otherwise, we're dinosaurs!
13  |   Tod Zuckerman, Tuesday Sep 16, 2008
Koch has not even convinced himself - jeez, this probably the most unenthusiastic endorsement in history. Reading between the lines, it is clear that Obama SCARES THE HELL out of Koch. Well, I admire and like Koch, but he knows he made a mistake : he should have exercised the same courage he displayed in 2004, and endorsed McCain. Israel will be lucky if it survives an Obama presidency, and Koch knows it.
14  |   Manny, Chicago, Tuesday Sep 16, 2008
Saying that the security of Israel is not an issue in these elections is irresponsible. It is more important now than ever, given the weakness of the current government in Israel, and the advance of Iran toward nuclear weapons, embolding their allies Hizballa and Hamas. McCain is a known entity, with a long record of support for Israel, with deep understanding of the middle east and terrorism. Obama is unknown, has no record, and his declarations are ambiguous. His associations with far left activists and Israel haters are suspect, to say the least. I am not takeing a chance on Israel security.
15  |   Manny, Chicago, Tuesday Sep 16, 2008
Saying that the security of Israel is not an issue in these elections is irresponsible. It is more important now than ever, given the weakness of the current government in Israel, and the advance of Iran toward nuclear weapons, embolding their allies Hizballa and Hamas. McCain is a known entity, with a long record of support for Israel, with deep understanding of the middle east and terrorism. Obama is unknown, has no record, and his declarations are ambiguous. His associations with far left activists and Israel haters are suspect, to say the least. I am not takeing a chance on Israel security.
16  |   yona loriner, Tuesday Sep 16, 2008
kool stuff
17  |   Victor Galindo, CA, USA, Tuesday Sep 16, 2008
I too am frightened by the vision of Palin becoming President. Whereas I was very much for McCain, I am now very much for the Obama/Biden ticket. Even if Palin should drop out of the race, I would not vote for McCain. He has shown that he does not have the capacity to lead the nation properly. Maybe he does not have the brains (I suspect that is the case), or his domestic views are totally opposite of what decent people should want. They are Palin's views - horrible. I do not understand Lieberman supporting Palin. I believe and hope that his political days are over
18  |   Ruth I., Tuesday Sep 16, 2008
More scary, Mr. Koch are Obama and Biden's judgment and actions post 9/11. Biden said it was "a good time to send...$200 million to Iran" and linking Al Qaeda to an ideology "is evidence of profound confusion." Obama post 9/11 raised money for Rashid Khalidi, former Arafat staffer. Obama was against the Iraq War maybe because he owed Tony Rezko for buying O's house (Rezko owed money to Nadhmi Auchi, a Saddam Hussein friend). Biden took campaign cash from a pro-Iran group, so his credibility on Iran is zero. Both are pro-Muslim appeasers and that does not make the US or Israel safer.
19  |   paul williams St Petersburg Fl, Tuesday Sep 16, 2008
I agree that Obama/Biden is the better choice. Their administration will attract Americas best and brightest to address it's many problems During my 50 years in the GOP I followed the career of and admired Joe Biden. His approach to military matters and his worldview is impressive
20  |   Jack Sprat, Tuesday Sep 16, 2008
Race riots, Mr. Mayor, unabated, and emboldened, with the police terrified to respond.
21  |   Judah Boca Raton, Tuesday Sep 16, 2008
I like the way the Mayor states that he knows Biden and McCain. He does not say that he KNOWS Barack Obama. Does anyone really know what he stands for? And what has he done, other than run for President? Though Bush made mistakes we knew where he stood. He was steadfast in his ideals and never wavered. We also know where McCaine stands. One of his first trips as the nominee was to go to Israel and show his love for the only democracy in that part of the world. Barack, on the other hand said that Jerusualem should be the capital. And backtracked soon after. He is not to be trusted.
22  |   Walt, Michigan., Tuesday Sep 16, 2008
Woe is Israel if Obama is elected.
23  |   Chad, USA, Tuesday Sep 16, 2008
You think he will protect America? Stop deluding yourself. He's said himself in one of his ads that he will "Cut military spending", "achieve deep cuts in our nuclear arsenals", "slow our development of new combat systems", etc. etc. This guy wants to destroy the military and you're saying America would be safer with him as president? What color is the sky in your world?
24  |   Richard, New York, Tuesday Sep 16, 2008
Ed Koch is the one and only voter McCain lost by not picking Lieberman
25  |   Tom Montjoie, USA, Tuesday Sep 16, 2008
Who cares who this guy is voting for? "The time has come to declare my favorite ice cream flavor." Who gives a rat's A$$?
26  |   Steve Fort Worth, TX, Tuesday Sep 16, 2008
Allow me to point out a few things Mr. Koch. You question Palin's experience? She's had more executive experience that Obama has had. She's running for Vice President. Obama is running for President and he has no experience whatsoever. I fail to understand why people like your self, or others in the news media, do not ask Obama the same tough questions regarding his experience that they ask Palin. Obama was a "community organizer." Define that for me please? Elaborate on how that makes him qualified to be President. Palin has executive experience. She is a governor!
27  |   FDR, Tuesday Sep 16, 2008
I always liked Ed and I respect his opinions, but I also think he is wrong. He may agree with Obama's positions on domestic issues, but on the subject of security there is no doubt McCain will be better than Obama. Obama will deal with our enemies as Bill Clinton did. Liberals have their hands tied behind their backs when it comes to the use of military power to strike at our enemies. The idea of taking the fight to them where they lives has kept America free from terrorist attacks for the past 7 years. Obama will retreat and the battles lines will be within America's borders.
28  |   Michael Greenberg, Tuesday Sep 16, 2008
Ed--you fail to understand--you invoke Truman,but do not understand that Obama is Neville Chamberlain all over again ,and Biden is a cut and runner whenthe going gets tough...Palin is Truman --I'm sure she agrees with Truman's statement that a statesman is a ploitician who has been dead for 15 years---in REALPOLITIK -you had better get the enemy before he gets you-because without that PRIMARY PROTECTION you won't have a state to offer all the nice LlITTLE PROTECTIONS you crave on taxes,social security,health insurance and other domestic issues..instead yo willbe dead or in slave camps.
29  |   Mark, Tuesday Sep 16, 2008
Quote from Barack Obama: "The Hamas and Hezbollah terrorist organizations have legitimate claims" -- to me, this is not a candidate who understands the need to support Israel. Mayor Koch, I do hope you will evaluate all of Obama's statements, as he speaks from both sides of his mouth, depending on the audience, and then re-evaluate your idea of which candidate has a better understanding of Israel's security.
30  |   Liz UK, Tuesday Sep 16, 2008
Mr Koch, You have returned to your Democrat roots and so I'm not surprised at your choice. However I myself can't see that America will be safer with Obama. He flipflops whenever he can see an advantage for himself, and all those 'present' votes don't suggest a safe pair of hands. I believe McCain will be the better President for America, Israel and the rest of the West.
31  |   Lazam, Toronto, Canada, Tuesday Sep 16, 2008
Mayor Koch does not give a hoot about Israel or the Jewish people. He wants to protect the radical leftist/marxist social issues including those in which he has a personal stake, and which will be promoted and protected by Obama/Biden to the full detriment of Israel and America and the world.
32  |   John Hussey, Tuesday Sep 16, 2008
what a surprise! democrat party hack supports democrat party nominee
33  |   P Cowan- USA, Wednesday Sep 17, 2008
So four years ago "national security" meant dealing with the threat of Islamic terrorism (which still exists, incidentally), and today it means a return to 1960's feel-good socialism. Look, Mr. Koch, Bush was a regrettable error, but just because you go out to dinner and get a mediocre steak doesn't mean you start touting the virtues of veganism.
34  |   Arel, New York City, Wednesday Sep 17, 2008
Most respectfully, after living in New York City as a taxpayer while Mayor Koch was in office, i find his rather convoluted endorsement of Barack Obama predictable and typical of his extremely liberal and detached views. Mayor Koch fiddled while Rome burned. It took Rudy Giuliani to get NYC to a point where the city was even livable, and Koch's poor choice of advisors and appointed officials merely contributed to the tragic mess that was New York.
35  |   Leon.Aniel, Beer Sheva/California, Wednesday Sep 17, 2008
I'm both an Israeli and an American. Our family made Aliyah in 2004. My gut feeling is to go with McCain, but it's just a gut feeling based on a person I've gotten to know versus an unproven hopeful young senator who might mean well but is yet unproven. McCain has paid the price to get at least a chance in this election. Obama is young and will have many more opportunities. A little more experience as a senator won't hurt him.
36  |   Avner, Omer, Wednesday Sep 17, 2008
Koch is loosing it. He supports Obama who is being reinvented daily to be more electable but that should fool no one. Obama an American Patriot? For yrs he has been a pal of rev. Wright (..Amerikkka..) and Robert Ayers ( ..we did not bomb enough of the US..). On Israel: Obama had Samanta Power and Zbig Breziynski 2 noted Israel haters as foreign policy advisers(temporarily resigned for political expediency). The experienced Obama(186 days in the Senate, 0 days as an executive) advacates more useless talking with the Irainans-while they continue to build atomic bomb to annhilate Isael.
37  |   NC DAN Raleigh USA, Wednesday Sep 17, 2008
Mr Mayor, I've read your colums for years . I have always agreed with most of them .I respected you and your wisdom . For you to endorse this inexperianced phoney and that blowhard Joe Biden really shocks and disappoints me . I believe their election victory would put America and Israel in great danger. No experiance and no guts , a bad combination .
38  |   Mike, California, Wednesday Sep 17, 2008
Ed Koch is completely out of his mind. His reasoning in preferring obama over mccain is so flawed, you have to wonder how a many like this was ever voted into office. Ed Koch is doing what typical liberals do- take specific aspects and generalize it as if it translates. Do not get me wrong. Mccain is no angel, but any good debater knows that just because you agree with a person's position does not make it right. Why is it that everytime I ask a liberal to give me specifics on one of obama's positions, a blank stare permeates on their face. Lets rate how did obama did with russia?
39  |   Robert (Boston), Wednesday Sep 17, 2008
Mayor Koch is the epitome of the old saying "All the roads to hell are paved with good intentions". With hfriends like Obama who need enemies.
40  |   Elie, California, Wednesday Sep 17, 2008
I was never one to see Ed Koch as a great thinker. Based upon his position backing Obama, I feel comfortable in my view that Ed is sadly, a follower and a political lightweight. He tries to convince his readers that he believes Obama is best for Israel and the US, but provides not one single reason why such is the case. On the other hand, he bolted his party to vote for George W. Bush the second term, when it was clear that he had handled Iraq and the war on terror poorly. Voting for Bush showed bad judgement.Given Obama's record as a closet radical,lack of experience. I'll vote McCain/Palin.
41  |   Alvin Samuels, Wednesday Sep 17, 2008
The ability to know good or evil is still the overriding need for our leaders. McCain/Palin get my vote. Koch no longer qualifies and Obama/Biden seem clueless..
42  |   joe pyat, Wednesday Sep 17, 2008
Today’s entry is not Ed Koch’s: always eager to get to the bottom of things, now he’s content with references to the Obama’s empty and already disavowed promises as though the Mayor is completely oblivious to the blatant facts directly contradicting and disproving Obama’s statements. Reminding us that only four years ago his main concern was this country’s security from the jihadists’ evil plans, he now turns his attention to the left’s social “values” as an alleged panacea from all the real dangers of the world’s terrorists. For the first time, Mayor, you’re not believable.
43  |   Ira - Chicago, Wednesday Sep 17, 2008
Mayor Koch is the voice of good common sense. McCain will continue the disastrous Bush economic policies and invade more countries that no one in the world will go along with including Britain. America is falling apart and more wars will exile it to the roster of second-rate powers that once held sway. That's how empires fall - economically. All these neocon lies about Iran will only get more Americans killed - here and abroad. For Christ's sake - America lived with a nuclear China for decades when China was nearly the most isolated and paranoid country in the world. Obama is the clear choice.
44  |   Eric, Haifa, Wednesday Sep 17, 2008
Wow, it's about time. People should take this as a sign that there is a good reason why Koch might make such a drastic choice. Mccain would be horrible for Israel by forcing her to make concessions and to negotiate with terrorists just as bush has. Obama has already stated that he will keep himself out of it until asked to come in. And yesterday the former Secretaries of State supported talking to Iran (not "appeasement") II think it takes great courage to take this kind of position and have it printed in the right-wing Jpost. Good Job, Mr. Koch!
45  |   Gnarlodious, Wednesday Sep 17, 2008
Mr, Koch is finally showing us some clear thinking. To fully support Israel, the United States MUST be economically and morally strong. Under George Bush all we have seen is a weakening of both as giant corporations raid the weath of the nation.
46  |   Joe Smith boston, Wednesday Sep 17, 2008
I am very upset that the Mayor would select this affirmative action candidate for president but I still like mayor Koch alot
47  |   David Nigel Braham, Wednesday Sep 17, 2008
I disagree with Mr Koch about Obama and abortion. Obama has no experiance and (abortion should be aloud only if the baby puts the mother's life at risk. Jewish law). But if someone has a valid reason,why abortion should be aloud,I would like to hear.
48  |   Sy Dill, Wednesday Sep 17, 2008
Ed: Where have all you marbles gone. What happeed to 20 years in the front row seat with Rev. Wright; Ayers; Resco? Where were you when he said that "the Palestinians have suffered more than any other people...Jerusalem is Jewish, Jerusalem is not altogether Jewish...I'll speak to Ahmandenijhad without conditions....I voted against the Iraq War..." This is a guy that's good for the Jews, good for Israel, good for America and the leader of the free world? Cmon!
49  |   Hank in Colorado, Wednesday Sep 17, 2008
There's a saying, "keep your friends close, and your enemies closer." There is nothing to lose if President Obama meets the Iranian President, nor do I believe Obama would play Neville Chamberlin to Ahmadinejad's Adolph Hitler. Obama is by his nature, a student. He also likely needs an education about the foes of the world, that's why he picked Biden as his VP, and dealing with the Ahma-nutball directly serves the purpose of taking a measure of the man and saying things in private instead of through intermediaries. Obama will not endanger Israel in dealing with Iran.
50  |   Jo Ellen Davey Cohen, Wednesday Sep 17, 2008
Primadonna-Pretender Clinton pulls out of anti-Iran rally due to Powerful Pistol-Packing Palin: Mayor Koch, serious reconsideration of your choice is recommended! McCain and Palin have advanced a clear cut American leadership position with the coalition of the willing to address the Iranian regime. 'McCain-Palin for a change we can believe in.' Obama-Clinton for a cut and run policy of immolation. The two year Senator from Illinois has furthered his grand political ambitions via Fannie and Freddie; marginal allowances of BO time has been concentrated on the impending Iranian menace.
51  |   J. Adewole, Thursday Sep 18, 2008
Mr. Koch, l have always respected you and your views and l will continue to do so. My prayer is that God will give you long life. What l think should matter most to Americans now is their safety, having seen the way George Bush II manupulated Tony Bliar to going to invade Iraq. US is worst off in the world now when it comes to safety. Sincerely speaking, Obama/Biden ticket is the one that can bring the much needed safety to US. When he said he will talk to these terrorists, Bush immediately sent envoys to Iran. US need to be economically strong too for world safety; only Obama can deliver this.
52  |   Carol USA, Thursday Sep 18, 2008
Neither the US or Israel would be safe under Obama/Biden. Obama puts his own agenda before our countries. Obama wants to be friends with evryone and that can be deadly
53  |   Martin H. Leaf, Monday Sep 22, 2008
It's sad that the gay community only sees one issue: The threat Sarah Palin represents in their mind to the "legitimicy" of being gay. It is really sad gay people are so obsessed with this one issue.
54  |   arthur, Illnois, Saturday Oct 11, 2008
Mr Koch, I believe thay you do America and Israel a disjustice for your support of Obama. Obama is weak , and does not have the moral strength needed to Govern this Country. Obama if elected, and he just might, will help bring this Nation down. And for those who would mock the reality of God, What a surprise you have coming.
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