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Wednesday Jan 30, 2008
Koch's Comments: Using Israeli militias Posted by Ed Koch
Comments: 52
Hamas-governed Gaza is fighting a war of attrition against Israel. According to the New York Times of January 19th, "Hamas resumed firing Kassam rockets toward the Israeli border town of Sderot, along with other militant groups like Islamic Jihad and Al Aksa Martyrs Brigades, which is affiliated with Fatah. On Thursday, at least 40 rockets were launched, half of them landing in Israel, hitting two houses in Sderot and lightly wounding four Israelis, with a dozen more treated for shock. On Friday, at least 31 more rockets were fired toward Israel and 16 landed, but no one was wounded, the Israeli Army said. One rocket landed within 40 yards of a nursery school, which was open, said David Baker, an Israeli government spokesman. Since Tuesday, the army said, 130 Kassams have been launched; about half have landed in Israel and the remainder in Gaza." Israel's response has been to target and kill terrorist leaders. However, this tactic has not deterred the Palestinian
1 | Shep Fargotstein - Memphis, TN, Thursday Jan 31, 2008
Ed Koch for President .....of Sderot
2 | David Katcoff, Jericho, Vt, Thursday Jan 31, 2008
Good idea, Ed. Dream on. Israel would never authorize a militia, or authorize deliberate targeting of civilians. Sometimes I wonder if Israel is too civilized when it comes to protecting her own citizens.
3 | Bob, Thursday Jan 31, 2008
Excellent idea!
4 | Morton Friedman Lanham, MD USA, Thursday Jan 31, 2008
Why 'dumb down'? When one has a clear technical advantage, use it! Replace a well trained IDF with a lesser trained militia? Silly.
But from an 'economic' consideration, put more emphasis on using cheap dumb bombs instead of expensive hi-tech bombs. Forget the nomsense of 'collateral' damage, and declare that 10 to 1 is a 'proportionate' response. A few 'misses' might do wonders.
5 | Tuvia in Montreal Canada, Thursday Jan 31, 2008
best idea I have heard yet. Even better would be to move the Knesset to Sderot. Guaranteed the pencil pushers and corrupt MK's will then either force Olmert "the Palestinian" to step down or destroy Hamas like should have been done a long time ago. Jews taken out of Gaza against the Torah only to see other Jews have rockets fall on them like rain. Disgrace and shame. Way to go ed for telling it like it is!
6 | Mike USA, Thursday Jan 31, 2008
Mort, you missed Ed's point completely. I have been calling for this for years now. The IDF is responsible to the government of Israel and as such Israel is blamed for collateral damage. But if a militia starts attacking Gaza and the IDF is unable to stop them, then the government can't be blamed!! Just as Ed said, the militias should start lobbing missles and rockets indescrimately into Gaza today.
7 | Larry USA, Thursday Jan 31, 2008
I agree with Mayor Koch's sentiment. Along those lines how bout have the Israeli army announces that future rockets will be met by a proportionate response as follows: 5 or so rockets per rocket and they will use a random number generator to aim the artilary randomly into Gazan towns, so it will have a random nature since the UN, & NGO's apparently don't condemn random fire.
8 | Nehemia STern, Thursday Jan 31, 2008
Ed Koch you're the man with the plan! Excellent essay!
9 | m.ogilvy, Thursday Jan 31, 2008
Excellent idea...In a way it is a perfect absurdity that will expose the current on-going absurdity where a state is not defending its civilians for fear of collateral damage to a criminal enemy.
The problem is that,soon after, the anti-israel West will claim that the Israeli militias are better fed, better educated, better looking and better armed than the rif-raf that opposes them in Gaza. Simpathies will fast rally for the obvious underdogs,...the Gaza terrorists.
10 | Daniel Goodman, Nashville.Tn., Thursday Jan 31, 2008
While in my heart, I agree with the concept,I believe that the implementation would result in war crimes trials at the Hague. Kahane would have endorsed the militia retaliation and probably Begin too, but Olmert is far too egocentric to put himself in that kind of peril.A more sub-rosa policy not publicly articulated might accomplish the same end of protecting Sderot and the western Negev.G-d bless you,Ed
11 | R, Thursday Jan 31, 2008
I hear wisdom from the mayor. Lets give Hamas a taste of its own medicine. Israel needs to focus on its security rather than pleasing Europe, America or the U.N.
12 | Ron Pine - Florida - USA, Thursday Jan 31, 2008
Since the Arabs are all dying to become shahids anyway, why doesn't Israel allow them to reach this goal by expediting their killing them all. The 72 virgins are waiting for the glorious Arab martyrs.
13 | sean collin - San Francisco,Calif, Thursday Jan 31, 2008
Right On!!! Mayor Koch has the right idea. What would the U.S. do if motars & rockets were fired at San Diego or Seattle? What would any country do when confronted with this problem? Sometimes Israel is it's own worst enemy, worried more about bad press than protecting it's citizens. Israel must pressure world leaders, and (laugh) the U.N. to stop these terrorist attacks, in Sderot and the North. If the international community lacks the fortitude to act than Israel must take all appropriate action.
14 | Dan Friedman, Friday Feb 01, 2008
Ed Koch couldn't get the garbage picked up. You expect him to save Israel?
15 | Joseph Jerusalem, Friday Feb 01, 2008
I just lost any respect I had for Ed Koch.
16 | hersi, Friday Feb 01, 2008
what a stupid idea.send in the idf
17 | Victor Galind, Laguna Woods, CA, Friday Feb 01, 2008
Not a bad idea. I agree with #4, also. Blast the hell out of them. Of course the UN will object. Of course the EU will object. But Christendom has been anti-Semitic for 2000 years (notable exceptions of course). Various 'christian' groups keep talking, and acting, about divestment from Israel. That is blatently evil, anti-Semitic, and essentially Nazi like. Of course they should be discussing DIVESTMENT FROM ARAB AND MUUSLIM NATIONS.
18 | Kent, Puyallup, WA, Friday Feb 01, 2008
Replace your Prime Minister Immediately!!!!
The next PM (hopefully Netanyahu) should uphold his obligation to defend Israel by lauching a Counter Strike with Armor, Infantry, Artillery & Air Strikes into Gaza. Level the place, confiscate all weapons and withdraw. Repeat as needed.
19 | salomon arya San diego, calif. usa, Friday Feb 01, 2008
The Arabs have not only convinced the world of their right to kill Israelies because of the "occupation", but also they also convinced the successive Israeli governments. The Turkish province of Palestine is really Judea (The romans changed the name). They only started calling themselves "Palestinians" for political purposes. Israel is not occupying Arab land and while the Arabs are intent on erasing Israel from the M.E., Israel's leaders dream of Arab acceptance.
Salomon Arya
20 | jacob phoenix, Friday Feb 01, 2008
Hopefully, some day Israel will have a leader who cares more about Israeli civilian lives than arab civilian lives. Until then, more of the same idiocy.
21 | Fran Hutner, Friday Feb 01, 2008
I went with a group to Sderot a couple of days ago. We met with representatives of the area. A few times the idea of militia-type behavior, including returning the Kassams to Gaza, was raised. In all cases, the response was, "we are not them". This from the victims themselves. The people of Sderot and nearby areas are on the front line of Israel's defense against those who wish to destroy it. They are really heroes, although I am sure they would rather not have to be. They are not given the help or credit they deserve.
22 | Morton Friedman Lanham, MD USA, Friday Feb 01, 2008
Was it under Ed Koch that the NYC Police Department was 'enhanced' by 'private citizens' ? Any connection of those 'private citizens' to the 'Nation of Islam'? Militias, you can call them 'vigilantes' also, arise when the proper governments do not act as they should. But then the militias become a case of the cure is worse than the disease..
23 | Morton Friedman Lanham, MD USA, Friday Feb 01, 2008
cont.
Modern military PR ballyhoos the 'perfection' of weaponry, and the media loves it. But in reality there is no 'perfect' missile. In certain cases it might be better to advertise the'imperfections'. The 'OOPS', I am truly sorry that I missed my intended target. Blame the missile.
24 | Jo Ellen Davey Cohen Oak Park, IL, Friday Feb 01, 2008
Mayor Koch...Israel has a standing army.
Why requisition an Israeli militia do the
work of the Israel Defense Forces?
A non-combat-ready civilian militia would
be chewed up and spit out by Hamas and
the Islamic Jihad militant (militia) groups.
The Olmert Annapolis Accords and two-state solution peace process has hindered the
efficiency of the IDF, and ultimately the security of the State of Israel.
25 | John, Texas, Friday Feb 01, 2008
Ed Koch CLEARLY shows the "dual loyalty" smear doesn't apply to him...thats fine, its a FREE COUNTRY after all... I just wonder how much longer Americans will allow subversion of Americas interests for the sake of Israels. If and when the US attacks Iran...at Israels behest...all bets are off |