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Tuesday Aug 11, 2009
Koch's Comments: Falling out of love with Obama Posted by Ed Koch
Comments: 37
I continue to be a supporter of President Barack Obama. He has had several outstanding successes. The major one has been a positive change in the economy due primarily, I believe, to his hand-picked team of economic advisers who, from all indications, have fashioned an effective economic recovery plan. The recovery still has a long way to go, but using the language of my doctors at the hospital in which I recently spent six critical weeks recovering from open-heart surgery, "All the numbers are going in the right direction." I also believe his reaching out to our allies and those not allied with us has somewhat calmed the world's roiled waters. Yet, strangely, the president's support is waning. A recent CNN poll gave him a C-minus after 200 days in office, whereas at the end of his first 100 days, he got an almost universal B-plus. I think most people would say that the president's standing with the American public has suffered as a result of his handling of health care policy. During the election, Obama promised to speedily deliver universal health care. However, to date he has presented no health care bill to the Congress, and that legislative body has come up with a number of proposals for which he is being held responsible. Furthermore, the president has seemingly caved on important aspects of his health care agenda such as not restricting private insurance coverage and obtaining volume discounts from drug companies. In order to keep costs from rising, most people acknowledge the need for some kind of limitations on spending. Rationing of public monies makes sense, e.g., should public monies be used to give a kidney or heart transplant to a 90-year-old patient when it is necessary to reduce the costs of Medicaid and Medicare to keep them solvent? Both programs are totally government funded and operated. I would say no. Then the question becomes what about private funds being used by an individual willing to buy gold-plated insurance to provide unlimited medical expenditures for their health and survival? Should the government be able to limit such expenditures? My answer would be no. I speak from personal experience. I have been told that the cost of my hospital care, including the services of 20 doctors and 72 nurses and medical technicians over a six-week period, may ultimately cost a million dollars. My private insurance policy is paid for by my law firm, Bryan Cave LLP, and because I still work full-time, that insurance policy is my primary one, not Medicare, even though I am 84 years old. Will that continue to be the case under any law signed by Obama? Or will I be denied the right to spend my own money and that of my law firm for such unlimited coverage? The president, I believe, has said that there will be no restrictions on private insurance coverage, other than to expand that coverage for all by, for example, denying the insurance companies the right to reject persons with prior existing medical conditions. But he has not spoken loudly enough, nor has there been any discussion on the premiums that companies will be able to charge in such cases. Most alarming for people like me, who at 84 years of age recently needed a quadruple bypass and aortic valve replacement, are the pronouncements of Obama's appointee, Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel, brother of Obama's Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel. According to a New York Post op ed by Betsy McCaughey, former lt.-governor of the State of New York,
Opponents of Obama's health care proposals raise the specter of a panel making decisions on who should receive health care. I am not aware of any proposed panel. However, an article in today's New York Times, referring to a Senate bill, stated:
So, where lies the truth? I don't know. But I do know that I want the continued right to purchase and have available insurance that will permit me, no matter my age and physical condition, to purchase with my own money all the medical care I can afford. Perhaps the most egregious mistake the president has made regarding health care was the statement by a White House spokesman on the subject of using volume discount pressures on the drug companies to save money on Medicare prescription drug purchases, which now cost over $800 billion a year. The spokesman for the drug industry, former Congressman Bill Tauzin, recently announced that the drug industry had entered into an agreement with the White House in exchange for its support of universal medical coverage. Under the agreement, the drug companies would contribute $80b. over a 10-year period to defray the cost of universal medical coverage, while the White House has agreed not to require the drug industry to make any further financial contributions, meaning no change in the law barring the use of Medicare volume discounts and probably continuing the prohibition against importing American-made prescription drugs from Canada, which are sold there at up to 50 percent less. On August 6, The New York Times reported, "Pressed by industry lobbyists, White House officials on Wednesday assured drug makers that the administration stood by a behind-the-scenes effort to extract cost savings from them beyond an agreed-upon $80 billion," over a 10-year period, which confirms the Tauzin statement. Following that statement, Speaker Nancy Pelosi and a number of Congressmen, including Henry Waxman of California, said they would not be bound by the White House agreement. According to the Times, Waxman "vowed to fight the White House, asserting that it was conceding too much to the powerful drug industry lobby PhRma." Incidentally, why wouldn't the drug industry support universal medical care under any and all circumstances? With such legislation, more people will automatically be covered by insurance, including prescription drug coverage, creating an enormous new market for them. Volume discounts at only ten percent with existing expenditures by the government will bring in more than $80b. a year, as opposed to the drug companies' offer of $80b. over 10 years, or $8b. a year. President Obama might not be persuaded to rethink some of his positions on health care because of the protests of moderates like me who support him, but he surely has to be alarmed by the comments of his most ardent supporters like New York Times columnist Frank Rich who, discussing the pending health care legislation, warns: "It's in this context that Obama can't afford a defeat on health care. A bill will pass in a Democrat-controlled Congress. What matters is what's in it. The final result will be a CAT scan of those powerful Washington interests he campaigned against, revealing which have been removed from the body politic (or at least reduced) and which continue to metastasize. The Wall Street regulatory reform package Obama pushes through, or doesn't, may render even more of a verdict on his success in changing the system he sought the White House to reform... The larger fear is that Obama might be just another corporatist, punking voters much as the Republicans do when they claim to be all for the common guy." Love, we know, is never having to say you're sorry. When falling out of love, hopefully a reversible process, saying one is sorry is not enough; change is required. Why do so many of our heroes ultimately have clay feet?
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Dave in Pasadena, USA,
Tuesday Aug 11, 2009
Koch is living in a fantasy world. Just as Obama said whatever he had to to get elected, so he is now saying whatever he has to to get his legislation. He's long been an advocate of a single payer system, meaning the gov't pays for all health care. The danger here is obvious: When the gov't pays, the the gov't decides what you get and don't get. No, for all the downside of the private system, at least I have choices and options. This is personal choice. I'll take my chances in the world, and reject the "security" of a government laying down the rules of whether I live or die.
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james burke, montreal,
Tuesday Aug 11, 2009
why does Koch have a clay head and why does Jpost publish the ravings of this senile windbag?
1) Ed Koch on CNN; Sarah Palin scares me - I will never forget that one
2) Ezekiel Emmanuel is evil as is his brother - who both support rationing; ed koch will be off life support faster than you can say obama
3) Frank Rich is a &^%$#( who works for a rag goebbels would be proud of it with their photo essays on Israel without giving relevant facts
Is there a Jew out there I can be proud of - no oppenheimers, koches dershowitzes - someone who will not apologize being on the right
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Ronald USA,
Tuesday Aug 11, 2009
Koch, is it time to retire yet? Like many liberal US Jews tied to the Democratic Party, Koch has been unable to see Obama's dubious associations, his extreme liberal/socialist domestic policies, and his naive foreign policy concept of embracing enemies and pressuring friends as liabilities that would seriously damage US interests and ultimately his ability to govern. Yes, Obama's popularity is declining. The reason is that on virtually every front he has to deal with real problems that are beyond his true abilities. Campaign speeches never have to confront the reality of misguided policies.
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Joseph Lessard,
Tuesday Aug 11, 2009
Another liberal windbag. While Koch and the other liberal elitists can continue to support the great leader, the exulted one, Sultan Obama--the rest of us who actually work and pay taxes cannot. We are taxed to death by these liberals who don't pay taxes themselves. When we working class dare raise our voices, somehow we are accused of being un-American. We are accused of being a mob--or rabble. They don't want to hear anything bad from us about their liberal Messiah. We have a great divide in America between those who pay taxes and play by the rules--and those that live off of us like Koch.
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Rebecca,
Tuesday Aug 11, 2009
Koch is an amiable old man who deserves respect. However, he is so out of the loop here. He should retire and stay that way. Being an advocate for Obama is tarnishing him.
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Lisa, USA,
Tuesday Aug 11, 2009
You are confused as to why Americans are having a major case of "buyer's remorse"? You can start with the Stimulus that was not designed to stimulate anything except the contributors to the Democratic Party. You can then move on to the disaster that is now US foreign policy, to the tax increases that are inevitable, the abomination of "Health Insurance Reform" (government health care as we of sound mind like to call it) and look into his enemies list compiled by his brown shirts.By the way, if you don't like what I have to say you may feel free to forward this message to flag@whitehouse.gov.
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Ger, Raanana,
Tuesday Aug 11, 2009
Please, Mr. Koch, show me ONE instance where Obama's "reaching out to our allies or those not allied with us has calmed the world's roiled waters". He has left the Czechs and the Poles swinging in the breeze over the missile defense system. He has gotten absolutely nothing from the Saudis. The North Koreans are spitting in the face of the USA. Chavez and Castro are thumbing their noses at the USA. The Mexicans have refused his suggestions regarding the border. The British are still annoyed over the insults extended to them. And I won't even mention the Israelis.
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Chaim - Israel,
Tuesday Aug 11, 2009
Koch's comment that "all the numbers are going in the right direction" prove that he is still living in fantasy land as far as Obama is concerned. Despite the massive massaging of the numbers by Obama's propagandists, the fact remains that America is still bleeding jobs at an enormous pace, due largely to Obama's policies. Obama declares victory because the bleeding is occurring at a slightly slower pace. Some months may be less bad than others. However, the overall direction of America's economy under Obama is disastrous. America is getting scared of Obama's incompetence and blind ideology.
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Julie,
Tuesday Aug 11, 2009
There is no one health care package. There is more like four different ones floating around. So when I say yes for health care, I got to be careful what part of the package I am saying yes too. The news doesn't help much. It tends to show the anger, but not provide the details. Is there any way those 1,000 pages can be summarized so the average citizen knows what is the pros and cons without listening to paid advertisements?
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John Reilly San Diego,
Tuesday Aug 11, 2009
Response to #3, James Burke:
"Is there a Jew out there I can be proud of - no oppenheimers, koches dershowitzes - someone who will not apologize being on the right"
Koch and Dershowitz are both outspoken Liberal Democrats.
Physicist Robert Oppenheimer (if that is who you mean) was thought ot have communist leanings,
was at the least a fellow traveler, was stripped of U.S. security clearance after the Manhattan Project, and lived the rest of his life under a cloud of suspicion (which I believe was well founded).
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Richard, PA, USA,
Tuesday Aug 11, 2009
No Koch for me. Re Obama, I think he has made 3 mistakes with health care reform. 1) He submitted no plan to Congress, instead, leaving the principles & details up to them; 2) He is a fine orator, but fails to realize that Americans are not eye-, not ear-, oriented and need to see a visual presentation of the current situation & how his reform (about which we know little but rhetoric) will improve things; 3) he is naive and inexperienced: what we need someone like Lyndon Johnson, who knew how to twist arms, sweeten the pot, and call in the chips. Obama apparently lacks these abilities.
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Morton Friedman Lanham, MD,
Tuesday Aug 11, 2009
Koch, read the proposed bill. Nothing in it will reduce the cost of services Much to do with govt regulation and takeover of health insurance. Far worse than rationing would be govt licence to all your financal records. Where are those who scream for the privacy of the individual. it is a Big Brother bill to the extreme, and even includes your right to life and death. Even Bloomberg pointed out, nothing about tort reform, the biggest driver to the costs of defensive medecine, But that would affect America's growth industry, the trial lawyers, 1000 pages, I am limited to 300 characters.
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Sam Person, Fort Myers, FL, USA,
Tuesday Aug 11, 2009
Ed Koch is still enchanted by the smooth talker.
ObamaÂ’s consolidation of power continues in a display of arrogance that is unprecedented, and will lead to erosion of our freedom and liberty, economic and otherwise. It is aided and abetted by media reporters who ignore journalistic professionalism, as well as elected representatives who appear to be hypnotized.
We need to recall the words of Valarie Jarrett, co-chair of Obama’s transition team, who opined, right after the 2008 election that “Obama will rule from day one.” Note that the operative word was “rule,” not “lead.”
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Tod Zuckerman,
Tuesday Aug 11, 2009
Dear Mayor Ed : Until recent months, I always admired you. However, your columns regarding Obama are very disturbingI "Falling out of love" with a "hero" ? Please don't make us vomit - Obama is turning out to be exacltly what the 20- 25% of U.S. Jews who voted against him thought he was . So, knock off the crap - it is very unbecoming.
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Jo Ellen Davey Cohen Chicago, Illinois,
Tuesday Aug 11, 2009
With respect to Barack H. Obama's health care plan and his Bamboozle-America-Tour: Today, in Portsmouth, New Hampshire, Obama delivered a smooth performance regarding his administration's iniatives for socialized health care. He uttered the 'Great Society' talking points to an adoring Anglo American audience that cheered with approval. There was no debate. Mr. Obama's primary concern is not with the efficacy of his universal health care plan. The objectives of the plan are part and parcel of dismantling the American free enterprise health care system and punishing entrepreneurs.
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Joe smith,
Tuesday Aug 11, 2009
Its a shame how the mighty have fallen, please Mr mayor head out to the pasture and retire gracefully,
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Daniel-Atlanta,
Tuesday Aug 11, 2009
We already have rationing of health care. Those who have money get it. Those who don't, don't. So, let's get past the rhetoric and face facts. The fact is, Obama is doing a great job of engaging the American public is an important health care debate. Even those who disagree with him are invited to the discussion, unlike the Bush years when those who disagreed were harrassed and hauled away by political hacks posing as secret service agaents. We are fortunate to have a man with Obama's character and compassion as our president in these troubling times.
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Casey, Phoenix, AZ,
Wednesday Aug 12, 2009
Where lies the truth Mr. Koch? Be one of the few who reads the actual bill. And the "truth" is right there.
As a former government official you are safe. It is the rest of us, US citizens, who are being screwed if this bill is passed. Shame on Obama and his ilk.
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Yovel, Tel Aviv,
Wednesday Aug 12, 2009
The pros and cons of public / private health care are well known. Singapore has an interesting system: public health care is privately contracted on a (relatively) egalitarian basis, creating a large number of private jobs that cap the profits of insurance industry public investors, while at the same time legislatively controlling the high cost of medical malpractice insurance and other insurance policies that gov't pays for citizens. Cautious regulation can help a market function more efficiently with useful rules; or clumsy government regulation can cause unnecessary obstacles/pain to life.
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Joan New York,
Wednesday Aug 12, 2009
Charles Krauthammer is an American Jew who is also a conservative (In answer to #2). Not only does he have a medical degree from Harvard, but his columns and comments on Fox News explain how wrong and dangerous the Obama health plan is without apology. Koch is no one to speak for anyone. He sounded like he was bragging about his million dollar health coverage. Most of us poor stiffs don't have it and will be rationed out to die. Remember this is the man who hid in the closet behind Bess Myerson to win the Mayorship of NYC. He is so so out of touch. He would be dead under Obamacare.
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Avner, Omer,
Wednesday Aug 12, 2009
I do not want to pile up more on Koch while he is recovering from the multimellion dollar 1st class medical care that he received- and that he does not think we should all have. But if he himself has so many important unanswered questions about ObamaCare-how can he support this pig in a poke? Is it because Koch, like all those Congressman who support ObamaCare know that he will have the premium health program that these political hacks secure for themselves-with out taxes while the goverment Health Program will be the only option availble for the rest of us.
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Tyra-Ohio,
Wednesday Aug 12, 2009
Just remember Koch.....You have to be "in love" before you can fall "out of love". Some of us in America knew he was this great speaker all talk no do.
Don't believe the news media in America people, they want to make the protesters look like old fools. Where I come from those old people are our teachers, our wise, our knowledge base. I've started reading this Health Care Bill and it is down right frightening as for Daniel read section 224 and than go to the Verichip website and look up Verimed Health Link. Get back to me and tell me what you think.
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Passin' thru,
Wednesday Aug 12, 2009
When will politicians take the cotton out of their ears and put it in their mouths & actually LISTEN to the taxpayers. We're dying out here from the burden of taxes that are crippling the middle class families. The Health care Bill is a joke with over 1,000 page, which even my family physician couldn't get past page 54! Only G-d knows what hidden agendas are buried in this Bill. Obama's "cash for clunkers" is depriving many charitable organizations cars for needy individuals...in fact all of his ideas add up to one thing-more and higher taxes for us. Where will this nightmare end?
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Fred Dreyfuss,
Wednesday Aug 12, 2009
Mr. Koch, Marry in haste, repent at liesure. You couldn't wait to get in bed with this scourge called obama, now you can spend years repenting of your acts. Unfortunately, those of us who could recognize what a menace he represented will suffer along side you.
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Michael Gorinsky,
Wednesday Aug 12, 2009
Ed, it is a pity that an intelligent Man like You can't see the forest from the trees. Obama is the biggest political disaster ever to hit America. Today, Most Democrats and Republicans will agree to that.Obama can't wing it anymore. The American People are on to him.Life and Death cannot be dictated by some unknown beaurocrat in Washington.Medicare should be kept. It would have plenty of money if not the politicians in Washington always in haste to leave on trips and vacations always sighning laws at the last moment, taking social security excess money and using it to balance the budget.
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Chris USA,
Wednesday Aug 12, 2009
Universal Health Care is an uphill battle all the way and DC is the battle ground. Obama has biten off more than he can chew and its time to downsize our legislation into a smaller more limited version that can be incrementally expanded later. Items like health care rationing need to be shelfed because they create constitutional challenges for due process that may doom the bill. The best approach is a limited health insurance that supplements existing health care.
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Terry - Eilat, Israel,
Wednesday Aug 12, 2009
Sure, I want a health care system that works like the Post Office. Take a number, stand in line, fill out a form. Submit the form & someday, you will receive another form in the mail. Fill out the form & send it in. Wait. Wait some more. Call the special toll-free number. Get a recording, press 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, etc. Get another recording. Press 1, 2, 3, etc. etc. Listen to the music (or worse, an Obama speech).
Oops, cut off. Another form comes in the mail. Fill out the form & mail it in. Wait. Wait some more.
Good news! You're on a waiting list, only #12,486.
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steve nyc,
Wednesday Aug 12, 2009
Legislation without tort reform is purely political and will not work. Law suits have scared doctors, manufacturers and ethical financial advisors away from the business sector. Doctors are so frightened of law suits that they order every medical test remotely related to the ailment in fear of future litigation. These tests burden our sysyem and carry a tremendous expense. I think its time that the Dems part ways with the ABA and start legislating in the peoples's best interest.
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Morrie Kaz,
Wednesday Aug 12, 2009
Why is there no mention of "tort reform" in any part of the health bill?
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Jeff, DC,
Thursday Aug 13, 2009
Ed, Betsy McCaughey? Seriously?
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Bobov NYC,
Thursday Aug 13, 2009
Hey Ed how about showing some gratitude to the people=--- doctors, nurses, etc who saved your ass; ttaking care of you 24/7--- with some serious tort reform-- it would also save lots of wasted defensive medicine $$$ better spent on the uninsured, not the trial bar the Dems are so fond of
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paul david swinford Christian truck driver,
Thursday Aug 13, 2009
Falling out of love with Koch? When the government blatantly lies to the people, you have major problems. Obama said, "I one wants to keep their private health insurance, they can". That is a blatant lie. When they say that abortion isn't covered in their plans, that is a blatant lie. When death
panels are set up to decide who is allowed nedical care and who isn't given coverage, we smell
a rat. This health care plan comes from Hell, literally.
If congress think this health care plan is such a good idea, why will they not be part of it?????
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Ann,
Friday Aug 14, 2009
The truth is written in the book of law & prophets,which G-d gave His people. When you seek to measure how straight something may be: you test it against a known "...straight edge..." If the item you are measuring is not true to the stright edge, that item is not true at all. Everything can be measured against the "straight edge" of the word of G-d. If anyone or anything doesn't fit to G-d's word, that person or that thing is not measuring true. That is how you may know the truth! Does it line up with the straight edge of G-d's written word.
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Allan, Folsom, CA,
Friday Aug 14, 2009
Dear Mr. Koch, you say you want Obama to succeed. Then why do you believe he should replicate the failed strategy of the Clinton administration? Obama was a Senator, and he respects the role of the legislative branch to actually write and pass legislation. When the Clintons went behind closed doors and wrote their own legislation, no one in Congress owned it and it died. Today, multiple versions of legislation have successfully cleared congressional committees - which Clinton health care never managed to achieve.
And McCaughey is a paid healthcare industry shill, not a credible source.
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Hypatia,
Monday Aug 17, 2009
Medical professionals just held a 3-day free clinic in Los Angeles to treat those who cannot afford l care. One of the horrified providers exclaimed "...this is a "..Third World" situation!"
Meantime, Obama is giving away piecemeal what little is left of his much-touted health care plan. He seems unable to control his own corrupt party, much less the radical Republicans who foment the most outrageous lies.. His weak performance is disappointing. Grandiose campaign oratory does not get results! We need strong leadership. Obama, grow a pair!
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Martin in California,
Tuesday Aug 18, 2009
I didn't vote for Obama, but I can't place the health care debacle on his shoulders. The root of the problem, which is not addressing root causes of problems, is career politicians. But congress is not going to address the root problem of themselves until enough states have done it for them, by limiting the terms of their own representatives and senators, so that those congressmen can vote to limit the terms of everyone else.
And with shorter terms you will have less profitable corruption by lobbyists and people in office who live in the real world, and will live within the laws they pass.
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bob,
Wednesday Aug 19, 2009
three more years till November
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