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Tuesday Sep 25, 2007
Jewlicious: Did Columbia get it right? Posted by grand muffti
Comments: 6
Muffti and his fellow posters don’t do this so often, but this is intended as a bit of a question. Muffti’s been thinking about the ethics of inviting Ahmadinejad: on the one hand, the intellectual function and value of it is fairly obvious: Universities have, as part (but not nearly all) of their proper function, to throw a light on interesting and controversial issues in order to find, as best they can, truth by the method they hold most dear: reason. To that end, its useful to invite those you disagree with and Ahmadinejad is clearly someone most around here disagree with. And what better way to demonstrate academia’s commitment to the value of free speech than letting such a person speak. On the other hand there is a political-moral dimension. Don’t give people like Ahmadinejad a podium which legitimates them. Don’t act as though holocaust denying, terrorist funding, misogynistic homophobic people have positions that we feel it is legitimate to debate. Furthermore, Universities have to be and should be somewhat selective about who they invite - Columbia isn’t rushing to invite crazy homeless people in New York who mutter about being abducted by aliens simply so they can expose their views to academic scrutiny, are they? Given, however, that you are going to invite such a fellow and give him an audience, Muffti thinks that Columbia showed a great deal of integrity handling things the way they did. Bollinger did a wonderful (albeit slightly rude, which mildly offends his Canadian sensibilities even in this situation) job of setting the tone and Ahmadinejad did his political job of avoiding all the key issues he brought up. Ahmadinejad had a chance to represent himself and he looked like an ass. And as such, Muffti can’t help but feel, somewhat retroactively, that Columbia made the right decision. And learned that there are no homosexuals in Iran (since they are all dead or scared straight?) What do you think?
1 | Jay, Wednesday Sep 26, 2007
Muffti,
I think you capture the quandary pretty well. As a Columbia alum and Jew by close association (wife and kids), I found myself going back and forth. I think better to expose people like this, and that Bollinger obviously made every effort to undercut any sense of legitimization. I did think Bollinger's comments could have been more effective if delivered as part of a more natural give and take, but unlikely to convince any of the parties in any event (most audience members included).
2 | Daniel, Wednesday Sep 26, 2007
The problem is the premise is that having him speak will show people what he is like. In reality, those who hate him, will continue doing so, those who love him will continue doing so, the danger is that the uninformed may take him seriously
3 | Mike, Thursday Sep 27, 2007
The problem with letting that wacko speak is that it gives him some legitimacy. Columbia has in essence said that wacko's views are to be debated. One should not debate evil. For example, we have laws against murder. We don't debate about it.
4 | Steve, Thursday Sep 27, 2007
Ah yes the eternal liberal mantra of "Give the maniacs a podium and the world will see them for what they are". Which of course is complete nonsense. Maniacs attract other maniacs until you have a whole maniac nation building camps. No he should never be given a bullhorn in the nation he calls "Satan". He should have been barred from the US, the location of the UN notwithstanding.
Seriously, who else will Columbia invite? Charles Taylor? Charlie Manson? Kim Jong Il? The Unabomber?
5 | maryjane, Thursday Sep 27, 2007
leave it to a liberal to equate "misogyny" and "homophobia" as equals with terrorism and terror funding. if you deny GOD's Truth and find truth by "the method they hold dear: reason", then your being a bit of a snob to the "crazy homeless people in new york..." who's to say their reasoning isn't as good as yours and what they have to say, as valid. universities were meant to be about academics, not re-education camps for the young, as they have become. depending on what the professors present as truth, and what they belittle, there bends the mind of the student. there is no "righteous standard" in our universities and no "righteous Truth", so every opinion is just as valid (oh, except misogynist,homophobic,Bible reading, conservatives)
6 | jerry s., Friday Sep 28, 2007
let the nut speak so you know what he is thinking ...and draw out his friends and admirers so you know who they are..critic him after he speaks and on what he advocates
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