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Sunday Jan 11, 2009
In the Trenches: Shame! Posted by David Harris
Comments: 98
There's an interesting juxtaposition this month. As Israel pursues its military operation against Hamas, preparations are under way around the world for Holocaust Remembrance Day on January 27. The two are not disconnected. Israel's policy should be scrutinized like any other state's, and the loss of any innocent life should be mourned. But some of Israel's fiercest critics go far beyond the limits of what might be termed rational debate. They have obscenely tried to turn the Holocaust on its head, portraying Israel as committing Nazi-like crimes - the ultimate libel against the Jewish state. A Catholic cardinal - and leading Vatican official - refers to Gaza as a "concentration camp." A Greek newspaper entices readers with the banner headline "Holocaust," referring to Israel's alleged actions in Gaza. A Brazilian newspaper publishes two cartoons - one of Hitler wearing an armband emblazoned with the Star of David and swastika, saluting, "Heil Israel!"; the other of a Star of David casting a shadow in the form of a swastika over the Gaza Strip. On his website, white supremacist David Duke reacts to the Gaza crisis by lamenting that Hollywood portrays Jews as Holocaust victims rather than perpetrators. Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez calls on Venezuela's Jewish community to denounce the "Holocaust" being committed in Gaza. Posters equating the Star of David with the Nazi swastika are ubiquitous at anti-Israel rallies around the world. Shame! Israel seeks to defend itself in a highly complex environment, where the adversary, Hamas, cravenly uses civilians as shields and mosques as armories. For that right to protect its citizens, which any sovereign nation would exercise under similar circumstances, it is labeled as the successor to the demonic force that wiped out two-thirds of European Jewry, including 1.5 million children. How many times does it need to be said? Israel left Gaza in 2005. Israel has repeatedly renounced any territorial ambitions there. Israel gave Gazans the first chance in their history to govern themselves. Israel has a vested interest in a peaceful, prosperous, and developing Gaza. This point cannot be stressed enough. After all, the two are destined to share a common border. Israel has only one overarching concern in Gaza: Does it pose a security threat to neighboring Israel? The answer, tragically, is clear. That was the result of a decision taken in Gaza, not Israel. Hamas was chosen to rule, and choices have consequences. After all, Hamas denies Israel's right to exist. Why were tunnels built across the Egyptian border? What are the Iranian-made Grad missiles going through those tunnels to Gaza meant for? And why are Hamas fighters going through those tunnels in the other direction for training in Iran and Lebanon? More than 10,000 rockets, missiles, and mortars have been fired at southern Israel from Gaza in the past eight years. Towns and villages have lived under constant threat. If some of those projectiles were crude and missed their targets, it was not for lack of trying. Their aim is to kill, maim, and intimidate as many civilians as possible. Everything is fair game - homes, hospitals, schools, playgrounds. The trauma this has created cannot be adequately described. And for what? To "liberate" Gaza? Well, Gaza is already under Hamas, not Israeli, rule. No, more likely, to eventually "liberate" Israel from Israeli rule. But wait. What about all the clergy, cartoonists, protesters, and politicians so concerned about the human rights of those in Gaza? Have they ever uttered a peep while those 10,000 rockets, missiles, and mortars were raining down on southern Israel? Did they ever take to the streets to support the human rights of Israelis? Did they ever read the Hamas Charter and hear the echoes of Mein Kampf and the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, two European books that helped to condemn Jews to their death? Did they ever put two and two together and ask what would happen if Hamas married its annihilationist goals with ever more advanced weaponry? And did it occur to them that, yes, nearly six million Israeli Jews would be in the crosshairs? To ask these questions is to answer them, which probably means one of two things. Either the accusers are totally clueless about the Holocaust and, therefore, incapable of understanding why their words and actions are so outrageous. Or they are deliberately manipulating history, distorting the truth, and twisting facts for a larger political purpose. What could that purpose be? Well, for starters, extreme right, extreme left, and radical Islamic groups have found something to agree on - the Holocaust complicates their goals. For the extreme right, by seeking to deny or minimize the Holocaust, the crime of their predecessors, they have tried to burnish their credentials as a "responsible" element in more mainstream society. For the extreme left, the Holocaust is seen as a basis for the subsequent creation of the State of Israel, a nation whose right to exist they single-mindedly deny. And for radical Islamic groups, the Holocaust is regarded as a perennial source of sympathy for Israel, undermining efforts to chip away at its legitimacy. These three movements can't agree on much, but they seem to have a convergent interest in hijacking the Holocaust and using it against Israel. Perhaps it's an effort to get out from under the moral weight of the genocide. After all, it was the sins of commission by the perpetrators, abetted by the sins of omission on the part of bystanders, that amounted to the Final Solution. How could Europe - especially the Europe that today sees itself as a source of such enlightenment and reason - have been the stage for such a monstrous crime against humanity just a few short decades ago? And, of course, the Europe in which the Holocaust unfolded was a continent already haunted by the crowded presence of Jewish ghosts - victims of centuries of expulsions, pogroms, ghettos, pales of settlement, inquisitions, forced conversions, discriminatory laws, professional restrictions, conspiracy theories, blood libels, and the teaching of contempt. Pinning a swastika on Israel, and, by extension, its supporters, can be unburdening. It allows for a catharsis of the spirit. Given a measure of power, the argument goes, the Jews behave no differently than the Nazis. According to this inverted, not to mention perverted, logic, the only lesson of the Holocaust is to stand up for targeted "victims." And who is that targeted victim today? The Palestinians of Gaza, of course. The Holocaust taught several lessons. This January 27th would be a good time to remind the world of what they are. First, sometimes people mean what they say. Hitler spelled out his ambitions well in advance. Too few took him seriously. Until late in the day, there were those leaders in Europe who believed that he could be reasoned with, that his words were simply hyperbolic, that negotiations were possible, and that compromises could be reached. Is it possible that Hamas and its patron, Iran, actually mean what they say when they speak of a world without Israel? Second, there is such a thing as a just war. War should be the last option, but there are times when it must remain an option. Had the Allied nations not declared war on the Third Reich, how would the world have looked? Mind you, that war was neither "clean" nor "surgical," and Allied leaders were hardly preoccupied with debates over "proportionality." As diplomacy offered no solution and restraint met with no reciprocity, what was Israel supposed to do in the face of Hamas's arms buildup and daily barrage of fire? Simply accept the role of sitting duck so that it might aspire to the moral high ground of victimhood? And third, defenselessness is no strategy. Jews were defenseless against the Nazi onslaught. They had no army, no recourse to weapons, and few who sought to defend them. Jews learned, at high cost, never to permit such vulnerability again. So, as January 27th approaches, and we recall the six million, spare us the lip service and the crocodile tears from those who would accuse Israel of Nazi-like crimes. Remembering dead Jews is important, yes, but protecting living Jews is no less significant.
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Bob, San Francisco, CA,
Sunday Jan 11, 2009
Well written David! These are important thoughts and they need articulation. Let us hope you are writing to more than just our choir.
Bob
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Libby, Ossining, New York,
Sunday Jan 11, 2009
David, I find that you always hit the nail on the head and this blog entry is no exception. It brought me to tears thinking about how the world turns a blind eye to the Israelis. Your article needs to be printed in newspapers like the New York Times and other mainstream publications across the world. Thank you for your important work.
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Eric, Melbourne, FL,
Sunday Jan 11, 2009
You have to keep saying this David. As world media becomes more tabloid and sensationalist, spin will use any word, like Holocaust and Hitler and Nazi, to drive opinion. People are so easily influenced and forget what you've written in this article. I see the fighting and am saddened. Why don't people in Gaza work to make it better? So much easier to shoot rockets across its border than deal with reality of building a better tomorrow or providing for long term needs. Revenue and support gained from attacking must be greater than building a real economy. That's the root cause.
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Dan Ninburg - Tustin, CA,
Sunday Jan 11, 2009
Bravo David! You are indefatiguable! Your timely blog says it all. Would that the world could read it and understand it. Please stay well so that you may continue to lead us for many more years. A happy and healthful new year to you and yours.
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Chuck Wolfe Simsbury, CT USA,
Sunday Jan 11, 2009
David I feel what you wrote is highly significant but unfortunately also highly repititive. I would like to be able to answer the issues that get raised by educated "friends" that find themselves feeling that Israelis are the oppressors and that Hamas shooting rockets is somehow justified.
Two things I would find helpful.
1. A list of ten key talking points used by defenders of Hamas with factual rebuttals.
2. A weekly update of those people, clergy, politicians and other significant voices who are supporting Israel and who are not Jewish, and if possible a way to thank them.
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Joseph, Irving TX.,
Sunday Jan 11, 2009
David two wrongs do not make a right. You may not kill the shields to get at the bad guys.
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Meredith, Texas,
Sunday Jan 11, 2009
Thank you Mr Harris for so precisely addressing the issue of ignoring the huge threat of radicalism, whether from Hamas or the Nazis. The deliberate misrepresentation of Jewish and Israeli purpose is such a bold lie -- why do so many choose to ignore the lies?! It's deplorable for such willfulnessonly serves to aid and abet the likes of Hamas. We're saddened by all needless deaths; but the Gazans have their own 'government' to thank; they voted them in to power, let them remove them and replace them with a government that truly wants and works for a peaceful, productive nation.
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davidd teaneck, NJ USA,
Sunday Jan 11, 2009
To Joseph #6
Actually, by international law, not only may one kill the shields to get at the bad guys, but when that does happen, it's considered (again, legally, not by CNN standards) the bad guys' fault!
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Jim Evert, Crescent City, California, USA,
Sunday Jan 11, 2009
To Joseph #6 - maybe it slipped your mind, but Israel is fighting a war: all bets are off. The unfortunate element of civilian casualties is the product of ANY war. Hamas uses them to cover their own movements - like any coward would!
I pray for Israel's victory, and so should everyone else!
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Miriam, U.S.,
Sunday Jan 11, 2009
Believeing that the entire world is against Israelis or that the entire world's population is anti-semitic sounds a bit paranoid to me. Sionism on the other hand, is another matter. It is possible to be against sionism witout being anti-semitic. But killing children will never be 'self-defence' in my viewpoint - whoever is behind it, Hamas or Israeli soldiers. And if Hamas uses Palestinian civilians as human shields or hostages, I've never heard of a hostage situation where it's OK to blow the hostages apart to take out the bad guy..... The shame belongs to both sides killing civilians. Peace!
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Elliot Penna; Bristol, CT,
Sunday Jan 11, 2009
Israel unquestionably has the right to defend itself against rocket attacks, and its response so far has been appropriate and restrained. However, it is wrong to assume that Jews can never be the owners of its own brand of holocaust. Is there a single people which has never been tempted into the error of trying to achieve their own "final solution" by the destruction of another opposing group? It is not a uniquely Nazi idea; it is common to ALL HUMAN BEINGS. The pride of the Israel should be that despite provocation, and the means to do so, it has not acted to destroy all Palestinians.
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Kem Bangkok,
Sunday Jan 11, 2009
Is there anyway that the overwhelming silent majority of the international community can let Israel know that as ugly as the effects are on the ground in Gaza we fully empathize with the reasons for this action. We have all asked ourselves the question "how would we expect our Governments to react when our neighbour fires one rocket on our civilian population?" Yes we have all heard the history lessons but throwing darts at a grizzly bear while locked in the same cage just does not show any logic or intelligence or a willingness to work a solution but moreso a selfish vanity costing many lives.
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E Rivkin - US,
Sunday Jan 11, 2009
A few comments in response to your well written comments.
That Israel is replicating the Holocaust is no different than the classical anti-semitic hate mongering. Generations in Eastern Europe were educated to believe that Jews sacrifice Christian children for their blood so that it be included in the Passover matzah. Not only is the idea horribly tragic but totally turns the Jewish dietary laws of Kasruth on their head.
More than 6 million Israeli Jews will be in the crosshairs of Hamas. If you view their actions to date, they will eliminate anyone not perceived as loyal to them.
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Bernie Roseman,
Sunday Jan 11, 2009
What is being said is all to true, but the world is not going to listen to this defense of Israel or the Jews as a people. We need to be truthful to ourselves, anitsemitism is alive and well throughout the world - yes, even in the US. It was in a quite state for a while, but they now have a cause to come out into the open - even if the cause that is being defended is unjust (ie. HAMAS). I have no idea what we do about it, but we really need to be honest with outselves, we are going it alone, like throughout our history.
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Alan R. Naftalis, New York,NY,
Sunday Jan 11, 2009
David's list of Israel bashing is horrifying, but sadly not unexpected.These allegations are regularly made by those who also claim being anti-Israel is not being anti-Semitic.Really,why then all those stars of David? Is their intent lost on anyone?The further we get from the Holocaust the easier it is for Israel bashers, particularly in Europe, to twist that horror into something other than what it was & debase the victims.I ask the bashers,can they name any country that has ever allowed its enemy to be resupplied during a war or call a 3 hour halt so they can shop or repair damaged systems?
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sara clemons, memphis,tn,
Sunday Jan 11, 2009
excellent article. can one get permission to send it to our local newspaper in hopes of having it printed
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Rod, New York,
Sunday Jan 11, 2009
Although recognizing Israeli's right to defend themselves, there's a very worrying equation that shouldn't be ignored: 828 x 13 (as of Sunday morning)
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Dave in Chicago, IL,
Sunday Jan 11, 2009
David, you misidentify Irael's enemies. According to you, they are the "extreme right" and the "extreme left." That is not an accurate picture. The few nuts on the far right who are against Israel are overwhelmed in number by those who oppose Israel from the left. It is not merely the "extreme" left but the mainstream left, including those who dominate the universities and much of the press. You engage in false equivalency if you imagine that David Duke has even a fraction of the influence of the "respectable" anti-Israel left. It is time to be honest about who the enemy is.
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David, Vancouver,
Sunday Jan 11, 2009
# 6 Joseph
You are just a sad bigot! I'm tired of making excuses for you smug people, who sit thousand of miles away from the reality of hundreds of thousands of Israelis (Jew and Arab) who are faced with the daily terrifying prospect of a bomb dropping on their heads, and ponitificate about what Israel can and connect do. Go and sit in Sderot for a week; comfort terrified children and live with the terror yourself... and then come back and tell us all that Israel can or cannot defend itself against animals who would tear children from their parents to place them in harms way.
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Mike Wallace, Greenville, SC,
Sunday Jan 11, 2009
To Joseph #6- There aren't innocents in Gaza. They elected Hamas. They allow arms build-up in their neighborhoods, mosques, and schools. They look the other way while Hamas sets up, calibrates and fires their rockets. The people of Gaza could have nipped this in the bud a long time ago. Instead they aided and abetted the terrorists. Now they are paying for that collusion.
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Joe, San Francisco,
Sunday Jan 11, 2009
Well written, David, and, alas, so true.
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Jan, Australia,
Sunday Jan 11, 2009
In WW2 Britain sent so many bombers at the end that whole sections of cities were ablaze and people were incinerated in shelters. But Germany bombed London 1st. The US bombed Hiroshima and Nagasaki. But Japan bombed Pearl Harbour 1st. Disproportionate force wins war and brings peace. This is a lesson of history. Hamas bombed Israel, a declaration of war. ...by understanding the world objectively - the truth - we can see clearly the way the world really is- we don't believe our own myths! Myths kill. The truth gives victory. The proud have forged a lie against me Psa 119:69- but liars perish
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wasimullah khan Pakistan,
Sunday Jan 11, 2009
Israel has very sophisticated arms and ammunation against HAMAS and also the back of US. It isn't better to do target killing of the HAMAS than kill the civilian. If Hitler kills innocent jews then its not necessary to kills innocent non-jews. Please be in mind its an offensive war of israel against Hamas so it is not necessary to kill the shields. Open the mind open the heart!
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Jerry, Plano TX USA,
Sunday Jan 11, 2009
The world is protesting? Or is it the media? MSN.com has on it's site today an interactive map on the Gaza war. Blue strikes by Israel far outnumbe green strikes by Hamas. And in the interactive links, the Hamas rockets all have seem to hit only empty schools, or that no casualties incurred. But read the Israel strikes, and it emphisizes casualties, especially children. Where is genuine unbiased reporting today?
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David Stoiano, North Carolina, USA,
Sunday Jan 11, 2009
This article should be posted in all major newspapers, as it is truth, but we know (sadly enough) that won't happen. The mainstream media, especially here in America, seems too preoccupied with entertainment to be truly concerned about the fate of Israel. My prayers go up for the peace of Israel.
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Qassim - Qatar,
Monday Jan 12, 2009
A very smart introduction....I could understand what you are bulling here...thanks anyway!!!
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Clay,
Monday Jan 12, 2009
The way the media protrays Isreal makes me sick. Thank you Mr. Harris for telling it like it is. Hamas is the terriorist, not Isreal.
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anne/chana NYC,
Monday Jan 12, 2009
The more writers like Mr. Harris defend our beloved country of Israel the easier it is for us to stand strong against this utter hypocricy. Ralph Peters in the New York Post of 1/11/09 says it very powerfully as well. it is just very painful to sit by and see these lies and distortions and propaganda hulrled at Israel. We have to believe that G-d is watching over Israel and pray for his help and salvation.
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Emily, Sydney Australia,
Monday Jan 12, 2009
I found the justifications in this article very interesting and probably correct. But I have heard many justifications for the war. What I feel has not been explained why this war will WORK? My concern is not that the War is unjust, but that it is not the most effective solution to the problem. Palestinians have become dependant on Hamas for their livelihood because Israel has imposed trade restrictions that make it impossible for them to maintain businesses. If individuals could become less dependant on Hamas financially through trade with Israel, they might resist acting as their shields?
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Mike, Birmingham, England,
Monday Jan 12, 2009
Wow! a lot of distant friends and no local comment.
I am reminded of the film in which the cowboy rides on the the atom bomb as it falls.
Such were the news images today of great warplanes flying over huddled masses.
Here in the UK - the PROIsraeli demonstration in London and in Manchester held bannners saying 'stop the killing now'.
One man in a black hat and suit, with his family, had a sign saying 'Jews against Zionist atrocity'
I have no religious or ethinic side in this, just disappointment, anticipated and confirmed.
I am a Humanist with hopes of a future for all.
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Marcy New York,
Monday Jan 12, 2009
Well written, David. As the daughter of a Holocaust survivor, I am infuriated at such a comparison. Israel has been in a defense mode for 5,000 years. When does it get some peace? Does no one remember 9/11? It was horrible for all of us downtown that day, running... and knowing that we were aimed at by terrorists. Hamas is a terrorist group. Why does the media avoid showing the death and destruction that Israel suffers from these terrorists? Soon we will have a President who indicated that Israel has to give in or he will diminish support to the small State. This is ridiculous.
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Thomas Grogan, Sylvania, OH United States,
Monday Jan 12, 2009
I would certainly love to send a copy of this article to the Vatican but I am not sure how to do it. My comment to the Cardinal would be that in the context of so much vitriol against Israel his comment seems to be just one more piece of vitriol. It seems almost like a calculated insult to the common sense of the Jewish people that he seems to be advocating the the whole of southern Israel would be expected to live for what? another eight years of daily incoming rockets? Incredible.
Perhaps the good Cardinal would like to spend a week's vacation in Sderot? Catholic Church has changed?
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Naomi Princeton, NJ,
Monday Jan 12, 2009
This is an insightful and sad analysis, When will Israel be treated as a democracy which has given the world so much and is the best friend the US has. When the Jews were weak, they were persecuted. Now Israel has a strong military. and we are called Nazi's.
The US let 6 million Jews die without bombing a single gas chamber or railroad. Now "J street," part of the left wing, wants Israel to rely on the US to make its foreign policy decisions. Look more closely at the way residents of Gaza were treated by Egypt.
The new Anti-Semitism is being Anti-Israel.
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Alan, Auburn California,
Monday Jan 12, 2009
What an excellent article. I only wonder why the underlying rationale for everything mentioned (anti Israeli that is) was not included. Is it too frightening to believe that anti-semitism of the most virulent kind is alive and well and ubiquitous? Those that rant about Israeli "genocide" are and were silent over Darfur, Rwanda, Bosnia, Chechnya and scores of other dirty little wars that didn't involve Israel. Wonder why?
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Mike, Birmingham, England,
Monday Jan 12, 2009
It is probably very difficult for my Catholic mother that all three of her children became aetheist since the moment we could think for ourselves (about aged twelve).
She still has devoted children and grandchildren.
How do we see your fight? - I let you guess the ways.
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Jane DeLynn, NYC,
Monday Jan 12, 2009
If Gaza and the West Bank were state/s, any attack they made could be retaliated against the way any country is allowed to defend itself under international law. this is why they sabotage every agreement, first, bec it would involve recognizing Israel, & 2--bec it would remove some legitimacy from their guerrilla actions. (not the world wouldn't sympathize w them anyway.) Croatia didn't ask permission to be a state. ditto for some other Yugoslavian provinces, or when Czechsolvakia split in 2. Palestine could have been a state in 1948, but they didn't want to. why does no one ever mention this?
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John Low, Singapore,
Monday Jan 12, 2009
Great article David! Clear and incisive. Though my heart goes out to the Palestinians in Gaza, it must be questioned why did they continue to let the Hamas terrorists use them as human shield? Also, let us not forget Iran, who may be using this war as a diversion from their nuclear program.
Shalom al Yisrael.
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Nigel Mahabir, Trinidad,
Monday Jan 12, 2009
You're not fighting a war. You're shooting fish in a barrel. You've ignored the UN. You're breaking the Geneva convention.
Israel should be ashamed. Around the world, it is quite visible.
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Elizabeth, Massachusetts, USA,
Monday Jan 12, 2009
This article is a brilliant statement of the truth, and should have as wide a distribution as possible.
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Anon, Ireland,
Monday Jan 12, 2009
Harris seems to be comparing two deaths A YEAR from home-made missiles to the six million deaths of the Holocaust.
He seems to compare nuclear weapon, F-16 armed, American supported Israel with the unarmed civilians of 1940's Europe.
And he seems to think that the barely-armed palistinians are somehow comparable with the Nazi war machine.
While what is being done to the people of Gaza is nothing like the Holocaust, there are elements of similarity. The abused has become the abuser, and it is valid to point this out.
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Ettie, California, USA,
Monday Jan 12, 2009
Excellent article, but indeed, it's preaching to the choir.
It's interesting that the same people who say the holocaust was a hoax are blaming Israel for conducting a holocaust in Gaza. That is the "logic" of the anti-Semite. #6, this isn't a game. What happens to Israel will affect every Jew in the world. This means you, too!! Israel has spent the last 60 years bowing to the opinion of other nations. Had this been nipped in the bud at the beginning, we might not be having these problems today. No matter how much Israel capitulates to outside pressure, anti-Semitism is alive and well.
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Gilbert Adams, Washington, DC,
Monday Jan 12, 2009
Part 1: I agree that comparisons to the Holocaust and genocide are polemically exaggerated, but two of your cited critics have a point: concentration camps (as opposed to "death camps" like Auschwitz) are not related only to the Holocaust, and yes, Anne Frank would turn over in her grave.
Israel in effect still rules in Gaza, with the blockade and the military invasions at will. The points you need to discuss (rationally) are the disproportionality of the invasion (as in Lebanon), the *moral* problem of killing "shields" and the blithe acceptance of extensive "collateral damage", and
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Gilbert Adams, Washington, DC,
Monday Jan 12, 2009
Part 2: the (politically) cowardly refusal of the Israeli government to explore less violent alternatives for co-existence, including the Bush-like dismissal of Hamas as a possible party to negotiations after it was elected.
Even sympathetic third parties will support you more strongly if you donÂ’t try to pretend that *all* the wrong is on the other side.
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Kirsten, South Africa,
Monday Jan 12, 2009
Dear David,
Thank you very much for your enlightening explenation of the real situation.I hope the anti Israeli Eoropeans will read your articule and ponder on it. this articule is a gold medal articule that hopefully will shape some peoples way of thought and reasoning to be more balanced and lucritive. I enjoyed your articule as I follow the events in Gaza and are sometimes dazed by the comments of the international community on Israels response to their vital threat. God bless you people as you continue to strife to live a desent and safe life in your country.
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Mike, Birmingham, England,
Monday Jan 12, 2009
From the article: "Israel seeks to defend itself in a highly complex environment..."
Any thoughtful person, of whatever opinion knows this to be true. Perhaps I make an unfair comparison, but the dispossessed and the fearful of Northern Ireland terrorised each other and the UK mainland for thirty years. Living in a major city, I lost friends to bombs and we all lived with the threat for many years. In coping with our 'highly complex environment', warplanes were not sent to bomb within communities, instead soldiers at great risk, were sent to protect civilians and to target only the killers.
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vera de ruvo White Plains, N.Y.,
Monday Jan 12, 2009
i just wrote my comment-agreeing with #5's two suggestions. Also, Golda Meir's remark about war forcing young men to become fighters.
I think #5- Chuck has two very valid suggestions. Consider them. It is a heartbreak that Israel has to kill anyone. Golda Meir said something about hating what war is forcing Israeli soldiers to become fighters.
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Tor Marius Gauslaa, Lillesand, Borway,
Monday Jan 12, 2009
Thank yoy for reaction and comments. I am a norwegian baptistpastor og preacher, ashamed of the anti-israel propaganda both in norwegian media, politicans and those uttered by socalled clergy. Thank you Israel for what you are in this world where people seem to believe lies. Gauslaa, Norway
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Yochanan, Jerusalem,
Monday Jan 12, 2009
The opposition to Israel seems to be split in its feelings towards Hitler and the Nazis: there are many who like to compare Israelis to Nazis, as outlined in this blog. But the majority of the Islamists we are fighting continue to read Mein Kampf, praise Hilter and the Nazis and mourn the fact that they did not completely rid the world of Jews. It should be a simple matter to set the one aganst the other - just by pointing out the sympathies of the second group to the first, and reminding them that this time we are not defenceless.
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John N, Ireland,
Monday Jan 12, 2009
It is important that Israel defends itself. Israel has a right to exist and people in Europe, including my own country, do not understand that Hamas is a terrorist group. Israel is surrounded by terrorists and Nations who hate it. I am a man of peace but I can understand your actions. I am not "anti-Pal"
BUT I will stick up for Israel even though I hate the loss of innocent lives on all sides. I hope that their will be a lasting peace someday in the future and that the two-state solution will work.
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Giovani, Rome,
Monday Jan 12, 2009
Well said David. Don't stop writing. It is incredible to me that Israel has become the cause celebre of the left, people have such very short memories. My heart breaks whenever I see the images of the Palestinian victims, but they must turn to their leadership, not to Israel, and realize that they are being used by Hamas as human shields. How quickly people forget!
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Eric Toronto,
Monday Jan 12, 2009
Excellent article. I read the news and see the protests and wonder if I am living in an inverted logic world where the moral aggressor with just cause is turned into the demon. And the immoral 'victim' is turned into the helpless hero. Is it only a few who see the truth? How do people rationalize their hatred for Israel? It is both sad and frightening to see their warped anger.
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Mike, Birmingham, England,
Monday Jan 12, 2009
From the article: "Israel seeks to defend itself in a highly complex environment..."
Any thoughtful person, of whatever opinion knows this to be true. Perhaps I make an unfair comparison, but the dispossessed and the fearful of Northern Ireland terrorised each other and the UK mainland for thirty years. Living in a major city, I lost friends to bombs and we all lived with the threat for many years. In coping with our 'highly complex environment', warplanes were not sent to bomb within communities, instead soldiers at great risk, were sent to protect civilians and to target only the killers.
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steve atlanta,
Monday Jan 12, 2009
For us in the watching world, both sides are guilty of barbarism. War crimes? Whether speaking of the Crusades, N. Ireland, Nazis, North vs. South, or Gaza, war eliminates all boundaries for barbarism. By its core DNA war is a crime, leaving scars for centuries - just look @ many eras touched on in above posts.
Raising flags of "God's on our side" or "We're tired of being dumped on" to motivate nations toward 'due cause' for hatred, perpetuates the human pain 4 all. We've seen enough pictures, read enough 'justifications' from both sides and ask "Is this the best you can do to resolve this?"
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mikita antwerp,
Monday Jan 12, 2009
Very good article - but sliding out of context. The matter is not the operation itself, it is, how it is being planned and performed. First, Israel is giving to much importance to a gang named Hamas. Normally, this should not be qualified as a war. Second, the IDF is losing it's prestige with every day, that both, the operation and the rocket firing go on. This operation should have been conducted in a more "logistical" way: steppwise evacuating civilian population from small areas (a few squaremiles) and then clearing the area from weapons and gangsters. A clear message of superiority!
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Annette Glassner - Chicago,
Monday Jan 12, 2009
Simple, eloquent, beautifully said - let's just hope and pray that there are people out there who have common sense (and decency) and will read and understand!
A. Glassner
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ronhansing, columbia, mo, usa,
Monday Jan 12, 2009
Great article. Nie Wieder is my comment.
I simply cannot understand the "world's reaction". The reality is that I feel that this reaction is really a small minority in that by far many more individuels are are supportive.
I will send a copy to my local newspaper, not sure how they should get permission to reprint it but I'm sure they will kow. I would encourage everybody to do this. I really do not feel that the vast majority in the world are aginst Israel.
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Donna Cleveland,
Monday Jan 12, 2009
After reading this wonderful article and the mostly insightful comments taht followed, I would like to add two other observations the discussions presented. 1. Gaza is Judenfrei; Hitler would have approved. 2. Gaza residents recieve humanitarian aide from other than their elected government and not from their own elected officials in hamas, who used funds for weapons rather than food and medicine for its population. Hamas embodies the explotation of people for political gains and power; the Nazi comparison may be appropriate (distasteful as it is) but to hamas, and only to hamas.
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Marjorie Fulbright San Francisco,
Monday Jan 12, 2009
I completely agree with what you say and how eloquently you have said it. What does occur to me is that the Palestinian PR is all about personal victims and the Israeli is the "official" point of view, making sense at a rational level. . To win the PR war I think Israel additionally needs to focus on stories of individuals and how their lives have been hurt or ended by terrorism. Unfortunately much of the public is swayed by their hearts rather than their minds.
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Carla Wills-Brandon Galveston, Texas,
Monday Jan 12, 2009
Sadly, it appears to be "hip" to ignore rockets blasting into Israel. Most of those using the Israel - Nazi comparison haven't accurate information on history. Plus, in Europe they do carry the shame of those who came before them and did nothing about this genocide. I know because I've worked with the children and grandchildren of Nazis, and I'm Jewish. As a mental health professional I can tell you that the carried shame of the Holocaust, in European decendants is incredible. Healing themselves, recognizing they are not their parents, or grandparents, hasn't happened. Terrible
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