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Thursday Jul 09, 2009
Guest Blog: An Israeli attack on Iran should serve Israeli security, not US timetable Posted by David Turner
Comments: 11
Regardless of the motive, it is former US president George W. Bush who overthrew Saddam Hussein's Sunni regime and replaced it with one led by the Shi'ites, a regime under the influence of Iran. It was Bush, not Obama, who opened the way for an Iranian military presence and threat along the Saudi and Kuwaiti borders. It was Bush who, facing a never-ending quagmire reminiscent of Vietnam finally turned to his main opponent in Iraq, the Islamic Republic of Iran, and asked it to control the Iraqi militias and allow the US to withdraw "with dignity." ![]() This Aug. 12, 2006 IKONOS satellite image provided Bush, in turn, rewarded Ahmadinejad with diplomatic recognition, a first-ever US interest section in Teheran. Iran, emboldened by Bush's weakness and dependency, challenged US interests in other areas of the region, missionizing in the Saudi Peninsula, in Egypt, and even far-off Morocco. Through its proxies in Lebanon and Gaza Iran took on the IDF in Israel's north and south. If Bush did not directly create the Iranian juggernaut, then he certainly contributed to the emerging confidence Iran displays today in defying American interests in the world and in suppressing its own citizenry. And today, in the wake of Ahmadinejad's "landslide" election victory and the heavy-handed suppression of demonstrators peacefully protesting the result; now that Ahmadinejad is publicly rejecting Obama's overtures to dialogue, now all of a sudden Biden signals to Israel that the US won't stand in its way? If, as is likely in the end, a timorous United States will once again fail to act to defend its interests threatened by Iran, if the US carries on with its inadequate response to North Korean and Iranian nuclear proliferation then, and only then, when the threat of immediate world economic depression subsides and with it the degree of world censure, when the Iranian threat is obvious to all, only then should Israel act unilaterally, in its own interest against Iran.
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H. From Amsterdam,
Saturday Jul 11, 2009
The best case scenario would beIsrael and Iran wiping each other of from this beautiful earth and let it finally be in peace.
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Eliza Barr,
Saturday Jul 11, 2009
I don't like the idea of blaming Bush, no matter what you are now don't have anymore important because what is done can not be undone.Why not find a solution to correct some mistakes. All the belligerent nation that surround Israel has nothing to do and so they focus their eyes on Israel look
at Israel it is very small country to compare of what they have. Israel is nation that God will not forsake
we all know that the Jews are the chosen people . Though they don't have oil but what they have is
the Brain. The enemy can not go to the Jews , The Jews will go to them.NOW.
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Chris USA,
Saturday Jul 11, 2009
All this discussion is pointless: Israel needs the US nanograde bunkerbusters to do credible damage to the Iranian facilities. Without these demolitions Israel has nothing capable of doing the job, thus the futility of attacking Iran without US approval. Israel would need to use nuclear weapons if it were to go this alone, causing the very senario it seeks to avoid. The dilemma of dying today (by it's own hand) versus waiting for tomorrow. The US nolonger can sustain global military operations in multiple theaters- it doesn't have the economy to do this anymore. It is stretched too thin.
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israeli, Israel,
Saturday Jul 11, 2009
Bush's mistakes were not caused by unfriendly motives toward Israel.Israel is not in a position to teach the US a lesson.If Israel alone is not able to do something militarily or subversively that would at least launch the denuclearization of this Ahmadinjihad regime without committing suicide then it misread the jihadist threat in the last 61 years.
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David Turner,
Saturday Jul 11, 2009
My point is not which ordinance would better do the job, or which US president is more responsible, but that the US invaded Iraq without considering that this would loose the Iranian threat. So eliminating the bomb is a US, not Israeli responsibility. Whoever is president, the US would love (but will deny) Israel do its dirty work. Israel would be blamed by all, including the US, for the resulting global economic disaster (as followed Iraq invasion) caused by the threat to ME oil. Israel-as-pariah, without financial and military support resulting in a downgraded military, will not survive.
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David Turner,
Saturday Jul 11, 2009
My article does not suggest Israel not act to contain the Iranian threat, but that the threat is future, not immediate. Israel has time to sit back and allow the US and Europe to digest the consequences of the growing Iranian threat on themselves and their economic (ME oil) interests without significantly increasing the threat to its own security. Diplomatic time is on Israel*s side. And while the west may continue to wish the problem away, Israeli to act will likely increase with time. As for Amsterdam H: The Holocaust failed to solve the west*s Jewish Problem, so you would finish the job?
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Luddy , Marion, USA,
Saturday Jul 11, 2009
We must remember Israel will survive , no matter what the World opinion is, nor what American politics demand, not matter the threats of the Iranian and Arab propose in their wicked and evil
thinking. She will stand , for she is not in the hands of wicked man she is in the hands of an almighty Lord God, fear not.
Shalom
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Michael M. - Vienna, Austria,
Saturday Jul 11, 2009
Rule #1: The attack on Iran has to be SUCESSFUL ! To many times Israeli politicians got cold feet and aborted / reduced / ridiculed military operations. Be successful and don't give a damn what anybody else says. The international public opinion about Israel is so bad that it hardly can get worse. So don't try to appease the ignorant but destroy the dangerous.
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Greg Garrison Riverside, CA. USA,
Sunday Jul 12, 2009
Shi'ites, Sunnis seriously whats the difference?
Bottom line they both want to destroy the state of Israel and kill all Jews everywhere.
Although Obama believes all Muslims to be peace loving people.
Dear Mister President, tell that to Daniel Pearl and Gilad Shalit and their families.
For that matter tell it to any Isaraeli or Jew blown up on a bus or in a market or on a university campus going about their life when a Sunni or Shi'ite with explosives strapped to their body murdered them.
No don't blame President Bush, blame it on those peace loving Muslims who are always everywhere war is.
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John Profit,
Sunday Jul 12, 2009
Never in its history has Israel been in graver danger. The US has never been in as weak a position since Israel's creation as it is now. Iran has created two armies armed to the teeth on Israel's borders. Very soon with the exit of Abbas Iran will load up Hamas in the West Bank. Then three proxy armies surrounding Israel will be armed to the teeth and setup within civilian populations. They will be able to lobe rockets and missiles into Israel and when Israel retaliates, killing civilians, the world will howl. Where in this unfolding scenario do things look bright for Israel's future?
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Joseph Lessard,
Friday Jul 31, 2009
I also just wanted to add my agreement to the comments made by #8, Michael M. A great American once said, "damn the torpedos, full speed ahead." To sheol with world opinion. Do it!!! Light 'em up!!!
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