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Sunday Jul 12, 2009
Guest Blog: Alan Dershowitz still doesn't get it Posted by Melanie Phillips
Comments: 112
My criticisms here of the piece Alan Dershowitz wrote in the Wall Street Journal appear to be making some waves across the pond. Dershowitz has now written a lengthy defence of himself against me on his JPost blog Double Standard Watch. I had said that he had failed to address the most egregious aspects of Obama's extreme hostility towards Israel, and that this was undoubtedly because, like most American Jews, he was incapable of admitting that a Democratic President could be so vicious towards it.
In his reply, Dershowitz not only shows that he still doesn't 'get it' but also that he doesn't appear to have understood what I wrote. Dershowitz says:
To take the last two points first: I said nothing of the kind. Dershowitz declares: 'She should not be trying to influence the voting patterns of American Jews.' But I did no such thing. I did not advise them to vote Republican. Nor did I say I didn't want them to remain Democrats. I simply wanted them to acknowledge the danger that Obama poses to Israel and the free world. I hold no particular candle for the Republican party. As in Britain, I look at the positions being adopted by whichever party, issue by issue. My argument was rather that Dershowitz and those like him amongst American Jews appeared incapable of acknowledging the terrible truth about Obama simply because they appear incapable of acknowledging that a Democratic President could ever be bad for Israel and the world. Their obsessive and irrational - indeed, Manichean - dread of the Republican party means they approach politics with heavy blinkers on and become incapable of seeing what is under their noses, a fact which Dershowitz's own article merely underscores. His main point, however, is that Obama must be supported because Israel must not become a politically divisive 'wedge issue' in the US as it is in Britain. He writes that instead of criticising American Jews, I should be
This is wrong in almost every respect. First, I am trying to change the terrible hatred in Britain towards Israel. Second, it is not a political wedge issue in Britain. For sure, hatred of Israel is virulent on the Left. But it also courses through the Right. Although the two sides come at this issue from totally different positions, there is barely a cigarette paper to slide between them when it comes to attitudes towards Israel. The Left is fuelled by its anti-imperialist, anti-west, pro-Third World attitude, which means it hates Israel as America's supposed proxy.' Conservative 'Middle Britain' thinks that 'abroad' is a dangerous place full of lunatics who will leave us alone as long as we are nice to them, and that the only reason we and the world are at risk is because we support America and America supports Israel; and Israel is at the root of the world's problems because it is preventing the Palestinians from having a state of their own, a fact of which the 'settlements' are the unpalatable evidence. Moreover, support for Israel is not quite as bipartisan in the US as Dershowitz makes out. 'New realist' Republicans unite in their detestation of and disgust for Israel with Democrat professors and the Democrat-leaning media. It was after all in America that Mearsheimer and Walt produced their disgusting and much lionised 'Jewish conspiracy theory' that the 'Israel Lobby' runs America's foreign policy, in a book which became a New York Times bestseller. Dershowitz writes:
For sure - but that roll-call of infamy also includes Noam Chomsky, Susan Sontag, Norman Finkelstein, Tony Judt, Jimmy Carter, Tony Kushner. (The fact that so many virulent Israel-bashers on the left are Jews merits a separate discussion). The suggestion that it is only in Britain and Europe where hatred of Israel resides on the Left is absurd. Most important, however, is not that Israel is a Democrat or Republican issue; after all, both parties have been cool or worse towards Israel in the past. It is simply that this particular far-left Democrat President is a menace. Yet remarkably, Dershowitz argues that he must be supported because Republican support for Israel under Bush alienated younger voters. He writes:
That is really an astounding thing to say. First, it undercuts his own argument that support for Israel is bi-partisan. Second, it was not the Republicans who linked Israel to Iraq - it was the enemies of Israel and the Jewish people on both Left and Right who falsely claimed, a la Mearsheimer and Walt, that Israel had manipulated the Bush administration into war in Iraq. It is quite remarkable to argue that American Jews should not vote Republican because of that prize piece of bigotry which has so disfigured politics and driven it off the rails in both America and Britain. It is even more astounding to argue, with a total absence of logic, that Obama should therefore be 'given the benefit of the doubt' and 'taken at his word' on account of that bigotry. But then just as astoundingly Dershowitz also says:
The idea that because their guy won that must be good for anyone is just bizarre. It means that might is right. It means that whatever Obama does it's good that American Jews helped bring him to power to do it. If Obama were - heaven forbid - to cause Israel to be destroyed, would Dershowitz still be saying that it was good that American Jews had been 'on the winning side'? Dershowitz writes:
Ah. Here surely is the rub. As I have written on a number of occasions, it seems that for most American Jews liberal issues are so important - or maybe wearing their liberal credentials on their sleeve by voting Democrat is so important - that the security of Israel or indeed the world plays a poor second fiddle. The first consideration, as stated here, is that American Jews must always vote for the Democrats; their actual policies are a secondary issue. I'm afraid that, if Dershowitz imagined that his piece would lay to rest the idea that American Jews don't 'get it,' he is sadly mistaken.
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Gebo Alabama,
Sunday Jul 12, 2009
As I have stated many times it is up to the people of Israel to be prepared at all times to defend themselves from any and all agressions against their citizens. Do not count on the current administration or the EU to be there to help.
In America we have the Hippie Crowd in power who belive that everyone will love them if we talk to them right. The current administration is picking up where Jimmy Carter left off.
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Joseph Baltimore,
Sunday Jul 12, 2009
I admire and read both Melanie and Alan and enjoy their clearly argued points. One point about Alan I must, however, disagree with. From a genuine Jewish point of view, abortion on demand and same sex marriage are anathema. I believe most Americans support neither policy and I wouldn't want support for Israel tangled up with these sort of issues.
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JG, Caesarea,
Sunday Jul 12, 2009
"[Phillips] would turn Israel into a wedge issue, in which Republicans were seen as the supporters of Israel and Democrats as its enemy. This is precisely what has happened, with disastrous results, throughout much of Europe."
Europe is home to inveterate anti-Semitism. Jewish support of left or right matters not. Example: Attlee replaced Churchill and Labour's longstanding commitment to a Jewish state vanished.
US voters shouldn't worry about a "wedge". Rather, they should focus on what is ethical. At issue is Israel's survival, supported overwhelmingly by the broader US electorate.
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Hiram (USA),
Sunday Jul 12, 2009
Dershowitz cares nothing about Israel. He will only defend Israel if Israel supports his liberal principles such as "a women's right to choose abortion, the rights of gays and lesbians to equal justice, and other progressive policies." It has nothing to do with Israel but alot to do with maintaining a power position. He will not upset his status quo with his power bases and his power bases are the liberals who care nothing for Israel but only with their causes or so called "progressive policies."
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Terry - Eilat, Israel,
Sunday Jul 12, 2009
Welcome to the JPost Melanie - I read your piece already in the Spectator & totally agree with you.
Dershowitz is being most intellectually dishonest, nothing new for American Jewish leaders who are in the tank for the Democratic Party. I never cared for the Democratic Party but I'm no Republican either. I thought George Bush was to say the least, not a very good president. But compared to Obama, Bush looks good. I made some unflattering comparisons on Mr Dershowitz's blog which of course he didn't post. That's what I like about liberals, they love freedom of speech.
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Ehad Haam,
Sunday Jul 12, 2009
Well, IMHO, both Phillips and Dershowitz seem to enjoy the quarrel more than the issue. And the real issue is whether Brack Obama is endangering Israel. The question is relevant no matter who you vote for, Democrat or Republican, Tories or Labor. All other bickering is unworthy of both Dershowitz & Phillips. The main grounds for condemning Obama is his demand for a settlement freeze. But as many have already commented on JPost, many (most?) patriotic Jewish Israelis support the freeze too. So are they also anti-Israel? We need Mr. D & Ms. P, they should debate the issue and skip the bickering!
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Eliezer ben Boca Beach,
Sunday Jul 12, 2009
The liberal American Jew including Dershowitz and his Democratic chronies are a major threat to Israel's survival. Their belief that, "just give the Arabs what they want and then we'll have peace" is naive at best and just plain stupid at worse. Past history clearly shows us that Land for Peace is a recipe for destruction. The Arabs tell the world that they are going to destroy Israel, yet the Left just doesn't want to be confused with the facts on the ground. Dershowitz and his crowd truly believe that Obama is the Moshiah, but the reality is that Obama is just another false Moshiah!
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Ginsburg,
Sunday Jul 12, 2009
I too am happy to see both arguments clearly laid out. Melanie makes some very valid points regarding the BLIND support of the Democrat(ic) party by most of American Jewry. I fear that it may very well have been a mistake to be sucked into the Obama cult of personality and expect that Rahm Emmanuel, Rashid Khalidi, and Rev Wright are people that should have the Presidents ear on Israel policy. Although Dershowitz makes great arguments on behalf of Israell and against Anti-Semitism, it all falls into the American Jewish Reform or Secular assimilationist world peace mindset. Dreaming doesnt work
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Ari, Israel,
Sunday Jul 12, 2009
Nice one Melanie! Your articles are a breath of fresh air!
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james burke , montreal,
Sunday Jul 12, 2009
To North American Jews, 1) abortion, 2) homosexual rights, 3) lox and cream cheese trump all other issues, including support for Israel. Their position bewilders me but that is the truth. Alan D is a metaphor for that. Sorry Israel, you must understand, we love you but we want Americans to love us too.
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Yona Geitel, Givatayim, Israel,
Sunday Jul 12, 2009
Eliezer (7), it is all very well for you to sit on Boca beach and preach to us here in Israel, but forgive us if we ignore your foul language. Alan Dershowitz's views are mainstream not just here in Israel, but among Jews in general. I am not on the "Left", quite the opposite - I am right wing, but I support withdrawing form the territories in exchange for real peace. If you have been following Israeli politics you will have noticed that many right-wingers in Israel now support that view (most of the Kadima party originated in the Likud). We need more Dershowitz's and less of the likes of you.
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Nigel,
Sunday Jul 12, 2009
What I think is the real issue in the West as a whole is the ever-increasing appeasement of the highly vocal, fascist elements in Western society that threaten the state with violence and terror if they aren't so appeased. What facilitates this increasing fascism is the stranglehold of liberal fascists over the media, education, and political elites. While the majority of Western citizens are more anti-Arab than pro-Israel, that majority is now quite slim, according to all the polls I have seen.
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Terry - Eilat, Israel,
Sunday Jul 12, 2009
#12 Yona Geitel - Eliezer did not use any foul language. And, he has a right to his opinion. Dershowitz's views are not even vaguely mainstream, particularly in Israel, where Obama has manged to alienate just about everyone. And what ''real peace'' are you talking about? You can't possibly believe that withdrawing from the territories will bring us anything other than another Gaza.
Read today's headline, Abbas insists on the right of return, among other non-starters. Kadima is sinking into oblivion where it belongs & Livni's career is over. That's the mainstream view.
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Adina Kutnicki, Israel,
Sunday Jul 12, 2009
I totally agree with Melanie's assessment, she exposes Dershowitz's blinders towards Obama, and in effect shows how his insistence endangers Israel. Suffice it to say, that despite the fact that he is way more sympathetic towards Israel than those on the virulent left, he still fantasizes that a PA State will not be a menace for Israel, and that supporting Obama is in Israel's interest. He is wrong on so MANY levels that it is frightening. He is half baked pro Israel, and that is a real shame as he is held in very high repute.
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Phillip Cohen,
Sunday Jul 12, 2009
Dershowitz got it right.
The Bush administration endangered Israel, the United States and the rest of the world by linking up a number of disparate endeavors that had little to nothing to do with one another. Bush gave us a worthless war in Iraq. I remember reading plent of JPost articles reporting how important it was for the USA to go into Iraq. It was never in our interest. It was never in the interest of Israel to remove a thorn in its side that was a a greater wedge between it and Iran. Now you have that superpower Iran waiting to confront Israel.
Obama is leading the way to peace.
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Proud Zionist, Modi'in,
Sunday Jul 12, 2009
Melanie is right: Dersch's main stance seems to be, "Let's pretend Obama is pro-Israel because he's in power." Not a smart policy for such a smart man, but sometimes admitting an error is difficult...
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Nigel,
Sunday Jul 12, 2009
As far as I can see Western populations are essentially divided into 3: 1/3 Israel sympathizers; 1/3 Arab sympathizers; 1/3 swing. It is the swing group that is seemingly being ever-increasingly influenced by the mass media and educational propaganda/social engineering.that demonizes Israel, Zionism, social conservatism, and nationalism. It also seems that a majority of the swing group are those who have been fooled into thinking they're well-educated and enlightened, rather than narrowly educated and manipulated by the historical revisionists and preachers of moral equivalence and humanism.
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Mike from Denver,
Sunday Jul 12, 2009
If you support Democratic policies on abortiion, etc., it's OK to be soft or hostile to Israel. Dershowitz, for all his smarts is a typical American Jew - a pavlovian Democrat who can't distinguish his attachment to Israel from his domestic politics. Consequently, he's blinded to Obama's obvious Muslim preferences.
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Nigel,
Sunday Jul 12, 2009
#12/Yona: What makes you believe "real peace" is achievable at all, let alone by further territorial withdrawal? The Arabs attacked time and time again before there were any settlers in the now disputed territories over the Green Line. Withdrawal from Gaza just brought more terror. And only under Israeli sovereignty has there been freedom of religion in E Jerusalem and a 250% increase in the Arab population there. Abbas said they have a "good reality" in the "West Bank". Peace isn't on the table; only demands for more and more pieces of territory free of Jews by Obama/US/EU/Arab enemy.
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Alan, Israel,
Sunday Jul 12, 2009
Prof. Dershowitz has argued persuasively that support for Israel should be a natural position for the left. While possible to argue with him on specific issues, he should be applauded (and honored) for his many efforts, over many years, to publicize the facts that support this conclusion, and to de-bunk the many slanders that undermine it.
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RJ,
Sunday Jul 12, 2009
If dear old Alan were to sit down for a few hours with the late Dr. Freud what do you think our good doctor might learn? Would he ask this lawyer to come back for some more work? Of course he would!
Alan is exactly what Plato described when over 2350 years ago he told us what a lawyer was. All Freud could offer is an understanding of the "mold" from which dear Alan came: The end result is still the same.
The man tries so hard to love himself by attacking everything around him, including Israel!
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JMK,
Sunday Jul 12, 2009
First who is Dershkowitz to deny or restrict anyones free speech. Who is he to tell another they cannot even try to influence american jews, he is making up his own laws and rules according to what. American Jews, at least a large percentage do not care about anything jewish, before and during WWII american jews voted for FDR and he did less than nothing for European Jews. At this time a huge percentage of US jews are intermarried, have converted to christianity, are children of intermarriage and are disinterested if not antagonistic to anything that interferes with their assimilation.
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JMK,
Sunday Jul 12, 2009
First who is Dershkowitz to deny or restrict anyones free speech. Who is he to tell another they cannot even try to influence american jews, he is making up his own laws and rules according to what. American Jews, at least a large percentage do not care about anything jewish, before and during WWII american jews voted for FDR and he did less than nothing for European Jews. At this time a huge percentage of US jews are intermarried, have converted to christianity, are children of intermarriage and are disinterested if not antagonistic to anything that interferes with their assimilation.
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Steve,
Sunday Jul 12, 2009
Terry #5, I voted for Bush in 2000. Soon after 9/11 attacks - when he called for the establishment of a Muslim-enemy state in Israel, when he lied about the enemy who attacked us, saying they hijacked a wholly peaceful religion - I broke with Bush. I could no longer in good conscience support him. What will it take for Dershowitz to do likewise with Obama? Ehad Haam you wrote, "patriotic Jewish Israelis support the (settlement) freeze too. So are they also anti-Israel?" Yes, in a way they are anti-Israel. Our enemy supports a settlement freeze. Are patriotic Jews with the enemy?
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michael pielet,
Sunday Jul 12, 2009
Yona from givatayim, I live in boca raton, three of my children were fighters in the Israeli
defence forces, my son spent one year in beaufort in Lebanon, my second son is a paratrooper,
my daughter was the communication officer in the givati brigade. What have you and your family
done? Obviously I am more of a Zionist than you. What you do not understand is this,
to every arab and the arab islamic world you are a settler and have no right to live in the holy land.
Certainly if jews have no right to live in Judea and Samaria they have no right to live in Tel
Aviv. Your are confused.
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dragging canoe USA,
Sunday Jul 12, 2009
I enjoyed reading your comments and I am surprised at the perception that Republicans dislike Israel. I have always felt that Republicans supported Israel but I see from your perspective that the policy that both Democrats and Republicans are pursuing is being perceived as non-support. I agree that that two state proposal is a waste of time as it won't achieve what Israel deserves most and that is peace. I appreciate being able to read your views as we do not get a lot of news on Israel from our media, what we do get is usually biased towards the Palestinians. Thanks again.
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Softwalker, Canada,
Sunday Jul 12, 2009
Come on, guys. Neither of you has a monopoly on the truth. Nothing good can come of two "big guns" turned on each other. Bury the hatchet and move on. There are far bigger battles to fight.
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Joseph, New York City,
Sunday Jul 12, 2009
Well said Phillips. Unfortunately, membership in the Democratic Party has replaced moral reasoning among too many American Jews.
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Michael, Ohio, U.S.A.,
Sunday Jul 12, 2009
Sadly, like most American Jews Alan Dershowitz is slavish in his devotion to his political party. He is above all a Democrat first, a lawyer second, a Jew third, and a U.S. citizen last. And that is a detriment to both Israel and to his country.
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Alan Marshall ,Virginia USA,
Sunday Jul 12, 2009
It is minnd-boggling that Yona (12) an Israeli self described "right-wing" believes the "land for peace"
crap. The belief that Israel should return to 1967 "militarily in-defenseable orders" is crazy and suicidal. DId Israeli withdrawl from Gaza achieve a peaceful Gaza?
On another issue, I agree with Melanie that AD "doesn't get it". Liberals do have "blinders" (as someone above mentioned) and "facts" only work to confuse them. Pathetic!!
Melanie: Much thanks for writing this blog! You are a breath of fresh air!
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Al Baltimore,
Sunday Jul 12, 2009
Melanie & Allan should call each other up, resolve their differences and pool their resources to helping Israel
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flower LA USA,
Sunday Jul 12, 2009
Sadly, Dershowitz, with his blind trust of Obama is adding pain to hurt.Jews like him who refuse to see how dangerous Obama is to Israel and continue to support him, are making it hard on Israel to get Obama off her back.Obama is clearly on the side of the Palestinians.How can a dishonest broker be good for Israel?How can forced peace become actual peace?Abbas is so sure that Obama will give him his kind of peace that he is not willing to even say that Israel is a Jewish state and this is OK with Dershowitz?!
Sorry but the truth is the Alan still does not get it.
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Sally Boston US,
Sunday Jul 12, 2009
Melanie, you are wrong only because you consider Obama a threat to Israel. Somebody has to save Israel from it's own unfair failed policies. If Obama succeeds in this, then it will be better for Israel, better for US, and better for the whole world.
Melanie, Israel needs to be forced into some normal path.
Sally
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massaraksh New York, USA,
Sunday Jul 12, 2009
Ms. Philips, I have been an admirer of Mr. Dershowitz for a very long time, but I must say you are absolutely right and he's wrong. The liberal supporters of Israel like him have a very difficult time to admit they made a huge mistake in supporting Obama, but sooner or later, they'll have to face the unpleasant truth.
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J. Benjamin US/Israel,
Sunday Jul 12, 2009
Phillips wins the argument, hands down. Dershowitz has that particular sickness of liberal American Jews which induces them to deny the evidence of their eyes and, worse, to forgo common sense.
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Albert Reingewirtz,
Sunday Jul 12, 2009
I am totally with you! When Wright came out swinging before the elections a question arose about Obama's 20 years in such an anti-Semitic church. His response was a masterful straw man. He gave a speech about race and everybody forgot the issue of Wright, "The personal spiritual mentor, except me. I was in love with Obama speeking at the democratic convention. When I discovered his 20 years of cheering Wright I could not vote for him anymore than I could have voted for a follower of Farrakhan. Unfortunately I am proven right. Yet Jews in drove voted for Obama to my dismay.
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Raoul, Israel,
Sunday Jul 12, 2009
Never understood why Americans should be either Republican or Democrat from the cradle to the grave. My party right or wrong?
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Efraim Carlsen, Woodmere, NY, USA,
Sunday Jul 12, 2009
Melanie Philips is right on the money. Alan Dershowitz isn't. In psychological jargon, it appears to me that Alan is experiencing a severe case of cognitive dissonance, as do most American Jews. How to be liberal and pro-Israel? Under Obama, this effort is like trying to square the circle. Obama approaches Israel through the tenets of the far left, which hates Israel as an "imperialist" nation. But American Jews (most of them) can't see the obvious Obama bias against Israel, as evidenced by his carefully crafted speeches on the Middle East. In summary, kudos to Melanie Philips!
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Terry - Eilat, Israel,
Sunday Jul 12, 2009
#25 Steve - I began losing faith in Bush when he began talking about bringing democracy to the Arab world, the attempt at nation-building in Iraq. As America got bogged down in Iraq rather than attack Iran & allowing Israel to go after Syria & Hezbollah, I lost more faith. When he started saying Islam is a religion of peace, that was the final straw, along with the support for a two-state solution. Now we have Obama, clearly much worse than Bush. How American Jews such as Dershowitz cannot see reality but continue with wishful thinking is beyond me.
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Steve U.S.,
Sunday Jul 12, 2009
Sally #34. You believe Israel needs to be 'forced'? David Landau, editor of Haaretz, in a meeting which took place at the residence of America’s ambassador to Israel, Richard Jones, was said to have implored Secretary of State Rice to force Israel. He said that the Israeli government wanted “to be raped” and that it would be like a “wet dream” for him to see this happen. You believe if President Obama would simply rape or sodomize Israel (figuratively speaking that is), it would be better for the U.S. and the whole world?
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Jerry - Boynton Beach, FL - USA,
Sunday Jul 12, 2009
Great piece. Although I am proud of much of the work that Dershowitz does, this issue is not one of them. I agree with the writer's positiion and am afraid that Obama is not "the One," as many of our liberal Jewish friends believe. Obama, however, is probably one of the best politicians I have ever seen in my lifetime. His control of the Media is an amazing feat. One can only hope that the hypnotic state they are presently in, will disapear at some point, so they can go back to their job of looking with unbiased eyes at what is going on in our Government...before it is too late.
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Jimbo - USA,
Sunday Jul 12, 2009
I think I finally figured out who Obama really is! Jimmy Carter on STERIODS!
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philososky, USA,
Sunday Jul 12, 2009
PHILLIPS IS CORRECT See Islam 101 on the site jihadwatch.org. The paper is linked in the center of the top menu bar. See frontpagemagazine.com the paper titled Symposium: Confronting Islamization of the West. (some panelists exposed as sympathizers) For Iran, Google and read Matthias Kuentzel's Ahmadinejads World. Are Judaism and Christianity as Violent as Islam? Search at jihadwatch.org. Answer on pages 4 - 6. Search CenterForSecurityPolicy.org for Seven years since 9/11. See the Caroline Glick speech titled Jerusalem, the Eternal Frontline at centerforsecuritypolicy.org or jpost.com
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rika zimmerman,
Sunday Jul 12, 2009
Thank you Melanie.
The majority of American Jews are indeed Liberals first and foremost. Liberalism is their theology. As we all know theology does not bow to logic or facts since it is based on faith.
I did write a letter to Mr. Dershowitz upon reading the piece in the WSJ, not because I believed that facts and logic will dissuade him but because I could not suffer this type of position to go unanswered.
Thanks for trying and letting others know what some of us think even though it will not change anything.
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US,
Sunday Jul 12, 2009
Sadly Melanie uses inflammatory language and gross exaggeration in order to try and forward her argument. Characterizing both the Republican and Democratic parties as "cool" toward Israel when they are the only two political entities that matter in the US is disengous. Also her verbal hyberbole regarding Mearsheimer and Walt comes perilously close to voiding any credability relative to her poorly supported and argued position. She is a light weight when it comes to tangling with Dershowitz.
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ralph lewis los angeles,
Sunday Jul 12, 2009
the post keeps describing dershowitz as a stalwart defender of ISRAEL! he is a sycophant for obama shamelessly touting his obvious anti ISRAEL demands as democratic and dershowitz shows himself as an opportunistic fellow traveller with a willingness to overlook obamas anti semitic credentials in the name of party unity
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United States,
Sunday Jul 12, 2009
God Bless you, Melanie!
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Eli Wapniarski - TA Israel,
Sunday Jul 12, 2009
All I know is this. North Korea has restarted it Nuclear Reactors and started testing missiles again. Iran continues to pursue Nuclear Arms and Arab countries and aspiring nations are once again abandoning compromise. All this since Barak Obama assumed the Presidency, started trying to make friends with everybody only to embolden the enemies of democracy and liberalism. It's good to know that the spirit of Chamberlain is alive and well in the US. We've learned nothing since WWII
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Nechama USA,
Sunday Jul 12, 2009
The dems have been veering away from Israel for some years. It sad that Prof Dershowitz cannot bring himself to acknowledge this. I'm a life-long Democrat but had to vote GOP for 1st time in my life because I read enough about obama - his connections, friends, supporters - to see that this man could not be a friend to Israel. All candidates say whatever they need to get elected but he sat for 20 years listening to Rev Wright's vile anti-Israel sermons, he was praised by Farakkhan & Carter, has many pro-palestinian, anti-Israel friends - how could anyone expect him to be a friend of Israel?
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Anna Boston,
Sunday Jul 12, 2009
A lot of American Jewish "leaders'' will be judged by history like capos of WWII are judged today.
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yuri beliavsky,
Sunday Jul 12, 2009
it is no doupts that Obama's background speeks for itself: his father and his stepfather are moslems, his early education in Indonesia and the most important, of course, his 20 years association with his pastor Rev J.Wright considering Rev Wright's virulent stand against Israel. All of Obama;s statements for Israel before the election were simple political tricks, just to fool jewish voters in which he obviously and unfortunatly succeded.
Yuri Beliavsky
Israel-USA
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