Wednesday Sep 03, 2008

A Point of View: Germany, the Jews, and business with Iran

Posted by Abraham Foxman
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Germany's relations with the Jewish people since the Holocaust have been very complicated. For years, many Jews would have nothing to do with Germany -- no visits, no products bought. As time passed, the predominant sentiment was to engage Germany to make sure it afforded some measure of justice to the survivors and to educate their own people, and particularly the young, about the horrors of the past.
 
At the same time, Germany, as part of its coming to grips with its past, became Israel's leading ally in Europe. As the years passed, as Israel's relations with European countries deteriorated, Germany could generally be counted on as a "friend."
 
This complicated history is important for those of us who try to educate our own community about Germany -- never forgetting what happened, insisting that Germany's relations with Israel and the Jewish people can not be "normal," but also letting our community know about the positions in German behavior, democracy, their support of Israel, their full-fledged democracy, their financial support of survivors.

Now, however, there is before us one of the greatest tests as to whether Germany truly has learned from the past and, I'm sorry to say, that true doubts are surfacing. I'm referring to the fact that the Jewish State is experiencing an existential threat in the form of an ever-closer nuclear Iran.

In the aftermath of the Holocaust, the Jewish people have had a mantra of "Never Again." But there is one other party that needs to have the same slogan, and that is Germany: Not in some vague philosophical form but in its attitude and positions toward the Jewish people. Acting in the manner of "Never Again" is the most reliable indicator of change and atonement.

Unfortunately, when it comes to Iran and its nuclear threat to Israel, Germany is not rising to the occasion. Yes, it is true that early on former Foreign Minister Joschka Fischer was a key figure in trying to focus attention on Iran's nuclear activities. Today, however, the action lies in the economic and technological sphere. It has become a commonality to say that the only way to avoid two terrible choices -- either an Iran with nuclear weapons which would threaten the whole Middle East and beyond or a military strike against Iran which could lead to untold military and economic consequences -- is to convince Iran through pressure to stop its nuclear program. To date, Iran is racing faster toward reaching its nuclear goal than the international community is acting to clamp down on Iran economically and diplomatically.

It is true that Russia and China play major roles in inhibiting UN sanctions. But much can be done even without more stringent UN action if Europe would fully join the US in taking action. In this regard, Germany's role has been destructive, even though Chancellor Angela Merkel has publicly called for increased pressure on Iran. 

A German engineering firm Steiner-Prematechnik-Gastec recently agreed to export three gas-to-liquid (GTL) plants to Iran worth 100 million Euros. Germany has passed no legislation or administrative procedures to prevent German companies from providing investment capital for Iran. Germany is Iran's biggest trading partner in Europe and second largest worldwide and while trade declined in 2007, it has been growing again this year. Reportedly, some 1,700 German companies are doing business in Iran, including leading companies such as Siemens AG and BASF. And Germany is Iran's number one supplier of machinery except for power systems and the building sector.

So here we are. Time is running out on the effort to stop Iran from going nuclear, and Germany, a player with real leverage on Iran, continues to undermine efforts to stop Iran. 

Germany must act now before it is too late. It is not enough for German officials to simply proclaim Germany's special responsibility for Israel’s security. If it fails to cut off or substantially reduce its economic ties to Iran, then all the good efforts to rehabilitate German-Jewish relations over the decades will have been significantly undermined.

For those of us who have played a role in effectuating reconciliation, a new look at the relationship will be in order. Let us hope it doesn't come to that.

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1  |   Markus Rauschenberger, Cologne Germany, Thursday Sep 04, 2008
As a German, I not only believe intellectually but I deeply and unquestionable feel, that every once “Human dignity is inviolable”. But what Abraham Foxman is asking of Germany, has nothing to do with “doing the right thing”. It isn’t about lessons learned from the Holocaust. Why should we act today on something our great-great parents did under Hitler? Shouldn’t we judge Israel on how it acts today? Hasn’t the Iraq war demonstrated that it is better to have nuclear weapons? And hasn’t the cold war taught us, that you need nuclear weapon, especially when you neigbour has them already?
2  |   Menachem, Israel, Thursday Sep 04, 2008
Like so many other Germans, Markus #1 tries in vain to whitewash blood-drenched German history by indirectly comparing Nazi-Germany with Israel. In contrast to Germany Israel has never murdered 6 million people. In contrast to German aggression which triggered both WW1 and WW2, Israel is only excercising the universal right of self-defense against enemies that dream about wiping off Israel from the map. The world has generally speaking not changed its anti-Jewish bias since WW2. The real change is that today the Jewish nation has an independent homeland and ability to defend itself.
3  |   Sean/ ireland, Thursday Sep 04, 2008
Foxman is a traitor to american Jews. He thinks he is the foreign minister of israel. He frightens elderly Jews in america into giving him their money because the nazis are coming including putting the adl in their wills and then the con artist foxman uses the money to pretend he is israels fm! and so he can live like a pasha!
4  |   Ray Saperstein, Baltimore, Maryland, Thursday Sep 04, 2008
Germans have many things in their heritage that they boast about. The engineering of BMW or mercedes didn't happen in one generation, but the current generation can feel pride in these accomplishments. The same for German beers. The Holocaust is also a part of the German heritage. The roots of the Holocaust was also generations in the making. The current generation, typified by Mr. Rauschenberger, prefers to ignore this element of German heritage for a variety of reasons. Marcus, you can stop feeling responsibility for the Holocaust when you stop feeling pride in positive German accomplisments
5  |   Sam H USA, Thursday Sep 04, 2008
Germany...what a history? These bright, imdustrious people are an enigma? Today, Germens are shopping not marching. Once the greatest army in the world..today. businessmen, and very good at it. They are not giving that straight arm Nazi salute anymore..but are pointing to something they want to buy on a high shelf. Credit must be given to Germany for all the aid and compensation they have been giving Israel for over 50 years. It's a shame that they are now dealing with Iran...business comes first.and .every nation including US )A) deals with the devil and that monster is radical Islam
6  |   Carl U USA, Thursday Sep 04, 2008
Business dealings with exterme Islamic nations will end up bitting us all in the tuchas. Arab oil money goes to nations that support terror...some openly..some secretly. We pay big bucks for oil and the suitcases full of money goes to the terrorists organization to kill and harass us. It's a war, only the enemy has declared it..we haven't. Money does more than talk ...it SINGS! Germany is not the only country that deals with the crocodiles of Iran.
7  |   John - United States, Thursday Sep 04, 2008
In ways, I agree with the gentlman from Cologne. You should not pay for what your great grandparents and Hitler did. It is no different than us now being asked to pay for past slavery. I believe though the big picture is should Iran have nukes? Maybe we in the US should step back and let Israel and Europe decide this question. After all, Iran's weapons will not reach our shores, it will be Israel and Europe that will suffer the destruction. I on the other hand have great friends in Germany and would hate to see anything happen.
8  |   Steve Fla., Thursday Sep 04, 2008
Germany will never expunge the guilt of her unspeakable crimes against the Jews. This is why I believe the kind of rapprochement Nahum Goldman and others sought with the post war (former) Nazi state a mistake as did many other Jews.. Mr. Foxman writes that a military strike against Iran "could" lead to untold military and economic consequences . Indeed it could or it might. Or it might not. Conversely, a nuclear Iran breathing threats to annihilate the Jews is unthinkable. Economic sanctions will simply not deter the mullahs of Iran from their genocidal / apocalyptic objective.
9  |   Amarilys Pons, Thursday Sep 04, 2008
Dear Markus, could you and the rest of your countrymen who think the way you do, please bend over and stick your heads up your asses ? Danke,
10  |   John Dones New York, Thursday Sep 04, 2008
I did not know anything about Germany, Iran and Israel relationship. As a Jew I don't think that Germany owns us anything. I believe that every government (I.E. every contry) is for themselves. Everyone will do what is best for them. If Israel will calculate that a stirke is in best interest of it's government (not necessary people) It will strike Iran. Of coarse it's great to have US on it's side. Also the US will have to join the war if Israel strikes. American interests, troops, etc will be too close to the action. If Iran retaliates against US interests in Iraq and Afganistan, it probablywil
11  |   David Turner, Thursday Sep 04, 2008
Jesus, I dont begin to come to a response to #1, Markus! *Why should we act today on something our great-great parents did under Hitler?(!)*; and, *Hasn*t the Iraq war demonstrated that it is better to have nuclear weapons?* Are we talking about the country that nearly achieved the solution to Europe*s two-thousand year long Jewish Problem? Are we advocating that every country in the world, regardless of mental and social stability should be encouraged to achieve nuclear capability? Should your Third Reich have been allowed them or, say Stalin under attack from Germany? Where are you from?
12  |   Solayman Aziz, Thursday Sep 04, 2008
With all respect,US sells grain to Iran so why not the Germans are allowed to sell ordinary goods that are not banned to Iran or any other country. Regards Solayman Aziz
13  |   MINUTEMAN, CALIF.--USA, Thursday Sep 04, 2008
To #1-Mr. Rauschenberger- Ignors the short history of Germens genocidal murder of Jews: 1930's-1940's- Your countrymens sent train loads of Jews to mass murder, 1950's Gemen scientists developed for Egypt, Syria weapons to murer Jews. 1970's German helped Islamists murdered Jewish Olympic athletes. 1990's-2000's Germans refused fighting the Islamo-Fasicits bent on Israel destruction. Today- Evelyn Hecht-Galinski equates Israeli policies with those of Nazi Germany and Germany helping Iran aquire Nuclear weapon for Jewish final solution. Is this is New Gemany?
14  |   Jan Henriksen, Australia, Friday Sep 05, 2008
Thankyou for noticing a small point. You have noticed trade is more important than morals as a basis of relationships. Iran and Germany's relationship will prosper. I'm quite sad for Mr Foxman- It will "come to that". It is a new generation: as Mr Rauschenberger says. Also it was predicted that Persia will be allied to a Northern invader of Israel from Magog. Scholars think Magog is Germany/Austria/Hungary. In any case Germany is tied now to Europe, which will soon be drawn into Russia's orbit. Mr Foxman is reading the writing on the wall!
15  |   david, USA, Friday Sep 05, 2008
...more excitable polemics from a master complicator...democracies thrive on commercial exchange and influence each participant in the process. The world cannot afford Israeli luxuries of condeming some neighbors while denying other neighbors ( even its Arab citizens) civil rights. Foxman's views are cheap, histrionic and dreadfully anachronistic. Even Ian Paisley, the Northern Irish firebrand, has succumbed to the new world view. Its high time Mean Old Abe grows up- better yet, have him step aside.
16  |   Malcolm Brown South Salem NY, Friday Sep 05, 2008
Mr. Rauschenberger must act today not because of what his great grandparents did under Hitler, but because of the universal lesson of what his great grandparents did. That is: when the good people stand by and do nothing the tyrants will destroy the world in their quest for power. Iran's tyrants proclaim the destruction of Israel. They laugh at their "friend" Germany and the rest of the "civilized" world who act impotently to stop them. Hitler fooled Stalin. Has Ahmadinejad fooled you? If not now, when?
17  |   Vladimir, USA, Friday Sep 05, 2008
Demagogery of Markus Raushenberger does not know limits. Shouldn't you Markus learn from History? Shouldn't be Nazi Geramny stopped in 1937, before she raped Europe in 1939-45? Hasn't 9/11 demonstrated that Moslem fanatics and facists, just like the Nazis, are bloodthursty mass murderers? Wasn't it demonstrated that Soviet commies and islamo-facists have different mentality? Wouldn't it be correct to stand against nuclear ambitions of Moslem fanatics and terrorists in Iran with the collective power of all free world? I think it would.
18  |   Bob, Washington, DC, Friday Sep 05, 2008
Every time I begin to think that Germany has changed and that there is a "new Germany," the Germans do something so morally obtuse that it exposes the shallowness of any such change. In the 1980s and 1990s, it was German companies supplying Iraq with chemical weapons technology. Now, it's Germany refusing to impose any meaningful sanctions on Iran. Germany is very good with words and symbolic gestures, but its deeds reveal its insincerity.
19  |   Ray Marshall, Van Nuys, California. USA, Friday Sep 05, 2008
Is it appropriate to provide weapons to a psychotic theocrat that deeply believes that winning is either in death or in life as long as a hated infidel is eliminated? In a generation or two Germany may have to add a crescent and a star on to its flag; is that and all that means agreeable to non Muslim Germans? How will Germans react when their payment of jizya will be required?
20  |   len angel new zealand, Friday Sep 05, 2008
God bless Israel. God bless America. The German government has revealed once again that they are morally bankrupt and only care about money.
21  |   Vinegar Hill, Madrid, Spain., Friday Sep 05, 2008
Mr Foxman there is an element of hypocrisy in what you have written. You complain about German trade with Iran and how this undermines efforts to stop Iranian nuclear development. Why don't you write about Israeli purchases of Iranian oil from Rotterdam, that is then shipped to Haifa, blatantly defying the Israeli boycott of Iran?
22  |   Nach, Friday Sep 05, 2008
Dream on. Only Israel surrenders her best interests to foreign powers.
23  |   Steve Fla., Friday Sep 05, 2008
John #7, your comparison fails. Perhaps a people should not pay for what our great grandparents or for what Hitler did, however you don't go on furthering the guilt -- in Germany's case -- by economically aiding a regime breathing genocide against the Jews. Germany's complicity with Iran is no different than us now being asked to pay for past slavery? If we did not address this systematic discrimination in public places, Jim Crow laws, etc., would we not be guilty of continuing the crimes of our great grandparents? Germany is furthering the crimes of Hitler. No question about it.
24  |   David J Feiger, Friday Sep 05, 2008
IF #1 Marcus's, proposition that this generation of Germans has no moral, ethical, intellectual nor legal responsibility for the actions of the previous generation or it's previous generation, Then each generation of every nation begins with a clean slate. Why should any individual be forced to accept the actions of any previous generations. Why should nationality, language, government, commitments, property and all forms of wealth be forced upon any new born infant. The application of your proposition reveals it's intellectual and moral dishonesty.
25  |   Frank, USA, Friday Sep 05, 2008
I believe that a Faustian mentality or psychology is in vogue today in Germany. Their current history will end in the manner described in the story of Faust. Israel should attack Iran when it believes its destruction (Israel's) is immininent, else the holocaust will be repeated on a much larger scale only this time it will include not only Jews but all Christians.
26  |   Mark Talisman, Washington DC, Saturday Sep 06, 2008
I find ADL's postion on opposition to HR 1746 appalling and revolting and in total conflict of interest. Opposing survivors of the Holocaust who have for sixtyfour years been seeking to be made whole and are now the only citizens in the US blocked from going to court to seek for themselves and their families restittuion for insurance policies they parents and grandparents paid for and had stolen from them. How can it be the a so-called Jewish Defense agency do this. Shame! Shame!
27  |   COLIN BECK, Saturday Sep 06, 2008
GERMANY IS OF THE TRIBE OF GOMER, AND IN TYPOLOGY, GERMANY IS GOMER THE HARLOT IN THE BOOK OF HOSEA. Germany had two world wars, and Gomer put herself on the auction blocks, and sold her body twice. If Germany separates herself from the man of GOD, and sells her wares to another pimp a third time, the man of GOD will cease looking for her, and she'll perish forever. German technology is flowing to Iran, and in the long run it will be used by Pakistan and the United Arab Emirates against America. Bible principles are more important than opinions. Germany is more Philistine than Christian.
28  |   Dan from US, Saturday Sep 06, 2008
I am a Christian...not a Jew, not a a German, not an Iranian. Everytime the Jewish people and Germany are mentioned together in a sentence, or in a broader sense, passing conversation, the horrors of the Holocaust rears its ugly head...as it should be, in my opinion. Germany assisting Iran is the product of of a different generation. We have, "History," for a reason. So we can teach from it, or learn from, or confirm or deny it. We do not control what one learns or does not learn from it. All we can do is try to understand what it means to someone else.
29  |   sb, Ohio USA, Saturday Sep 06, 2008
The German historians cry droves to let the world know how unjust the bombing of Dresden was. Of course they leave out the fact that at the same time Germany was running concentration camps, executing American POWs at Malmedy and firing V-2 rockets at London. Twenty years from now they'll claim America started WWII and Germany was the victim. Germany makes economic deals with Iran because it is in the German character to stir up trouble for the world and then blame someone else for the trouble it has caused.
30  |   Anonymous, Quebec, Canada, Saturday Sep 06, 2008
Classic. Bringing the old Holocaust argument back again. When will the governments of the West realize that they are being made accomplices of atrocities (remember Lebanon?) because of their culpability over a half century old event. Iran does not pose a threat to any country. If Israel, along with it's greatest friend, the US, could nuke the surface of Iran several thousand times already with it's arsenal, the Iranian government would be pretty suicidal to attempt any action(economic or military). Israel poses a big threat to Iran though, their biggest rival in the region right now.
31  |   Anonymous, SF, Sunday Sep 07, 2008
Foxman is right. If Germany has learned its lesson from the Holocaust, it will eagerly distance itself from the world's leading sponsor of terrorism, Iran, immediately. Not to do so proves the reconciliation with Israel is all for show and if there's a price to do the right thing, Germany won't pay it (in which case German citizens' of 2008 should be held to court for their stupidity and immorality today).
32  |   J Miami, Sunday Sep 07, 2008
Germany more than any other country and Germans more than any other public should be the first and strongest against Iran's horrible hate propaganda campaign and the spread of anti-Semitism. I am very disappointed and agree with Abraham Foxman completely. Germany needs to take a strong stand against Iran. It is intolerable. I can't believe they would do business with Iran. Europe needs to handle this one, it owes it to the world and I believe it is truely their responsibility to lead on this. Between France and Germany there is much that needs to be done that could prevent loss of lives
33  |   yona loriner tel aviv, Sunday Sep 07, 2008
I find ADL's postion on opposition to HR 1746 appalling and revolting and in total conflict of interest. Opposing survivors of the Holocaust who have for sixtyfour years been seeking to be made whole and are now the only citizens in the US blocked from going to court to seek for themselves and their families restittuion for insurance policies they parents and grandparents paid for and had stolen from them. How can it be the a so-called Jewish Defense agency do this. Shame! Shame
34  |   frank, usa, Monday Sep 08, 2008
Yona, you are right but it is precisely the absence of shame that is missing from the world today. There is all kind of perverted shame, as in Sharia societies where the mere exposure of a normal human ankle is called, "shame!" and in the west (I live in the US) a criminal can be caught with a smoking gun or bloody knife standing over a dead body surrounded by multiple witnesses,etc. yet in court he pleads "not guilty!" Indeed, there is something rotten in the state of Denmark (the world). History is rewritten, holocausts forgotten despite hundreds of surviving victims, and shame is "relative."
35  |   bill, USA., Thursday Sep 11, 2008
There are those here who believe President Bush will pardon S. Libby and bomb Iran before he leaves office. I guess it depends on what word he gets from the Almighty, with whom he is known to be on friendly terms. All nations have reason to feel shame over the treatment of jews by Nazi Germany. Nevertheless, the US will stand with Israel regardless who heads it's government. To wish for peace is, I suppose, naive since I feel a cold wind blowing and a new cold war coming on.
36  |   Vind, FL, Tuesday Sep 23, 2008
Abe Fox (despite his well intentions) is always exacerbating the false streotyping of Jews. The issue of nuclear Iran doesn't have to be tied to the holoucust. Rather, the question is: should Western democracies, act in a unified manner against Iran nuclear ambition. And why should they do it? Guilt for the holocoust is the wrong answer. It advances the accustions that it is the jews that lead the west to war in the middle east on behalf of Israel. What should be emphasized here is the threat posed to the west by nuclear Iran.
37  |   DA, USA, Saturday Oct 04, 2008
Right back at you, Amarilys Pons. Marcus, you are absolutely correct. --Deutsche Amerikanerin
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