Wednesday Jun 04, 2008

Living with Rockets: Al Jazeera and Sderot

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On Thursday evening, May 29, 2008 a group of Israeli and Arab college students were aired live on Al Jazeera from Haifa where they participated in a special two-hour program. The college students, studying at Tel Aviv, Ben Gurion, Haifa, and Bar Ilan universities, were asked questions about the future of the state of Israel and about the history and present situation of its citizens.
 
As one of three students from Bar Ilan University invited to a special Al Jazeera program about Israel, I found myself on an usually warm night debating the future state of Israel with Fayid, Ranin, and several other Arab students studying at Israeli universities. 
 
The whole evening was a bit surreal. Here I was, in Haifa, taking about the future of the state of Israel with people who clearly had a very different idea of the Jewish state. All this on the last TV station I would ever imagine appearing on to talk about Sderot--Al Jazeera! 

 

Of course it was imperative for me to talk about Sderot and the rocket attacks and the suffering of the Israeli residents in this western Negev town. I've been talking a lot about this rocket situation for the past year--just ask any of my friends and my family back in Maine.

Walid Omary, the program's host and Al Jazeera's Jerusalem Bureau Chief, asked us questions and then had two panel guests comment on our commentary. For us Israeli students, we had an Arabic to Hebrew translator. Each student was given a minute or so to respond to Walid's questions as the cameras in the background recorded our exchange.
 
There were obviously many and varying opinions but we were all basically civil on camera. Walid asked us what we thought the solutions for peace were and how we envisioned the state of Israel in another few years. One Arab girl said that in order for peace to exist, the state of Israel could no longer be Jewish and that the concept of Zionism had to be completely eradicated. The president of the Haifa Student Council for Arabs stated similarly that there should be a secular state.
 
It surprised me how most of the Arab students were not for a two-state solution
 
We got into heated discussions off camera during the advertisement breaks. One debate involved the origin of falafel and the kafiyah.
 
I got the feeling that none of the Arab students truly recognized a Jewish state of Israel. The Holocaust was mentioned as the primary reason for a Jewish homeland from a couple of Arab students. The historical and religious ties that the Jewish people have with this land was not recognized by any of the Palestinians, except by one of the panel guests. Many of the Arab college students stated that Palestinian right of return was fundamental to peace.

I had an interesting conversation during the break with an Arab girl from Haifa University who described herself as an atheist. Her father, she told me headed a human rights organization. When I spoke about Sderot and how Palestinian terror organizations like Hamas and Fatah's Al Aqsa brigades frequently wound innocent civilians and damage homes and property almost daily, this Haifa student asked me if I understood why.
 
"The people in Gaza have been forced to live without water and fuel," she explained. "They are desperate because the borders are closed."
 
I pointed out that Israel has been forced to close off Gaza in order to limit the number of Palestinian casualties that would result if the IDF was to enter in a full scale military operation. According to the IDF, 97% of the Palestinian rockets are fired from civilian and residential areas in northern Gaza, often from the populated cities of Beit Hanoun and Beit Lahiya.
 
"What other way does Israel have to attempt to stop the Kassam rocket fire that plagues Sderot and the western Negev on a daily basis?" I asked her.  "And if this is a question of desperation, why does Hamas intentionally target Jewish women and children in Sderot and in the rest of southern Israel, why not just our military?"
 
We didn't have the opportunity to continue the conversation because the break ended.
 
A couple of the Arab students also said that they had no rights in Israel. This sounded rather inaccurate to me, especially in reference to religious rights. I told the panel and the students that only last year I saw two Arab men praying on the campus lawn in my university, Bar Ilan, which is a religious (Jewish) institution. "I would never be able to enter Gaza, Syria, or Saudi Arabia and be able to pray there freely as Jew," I said.
 
The debate would have continued except that the program ended at ten o'clock at night and we all had classes at our respective universities the next morning.
 
This was the first time that I directly engaged in this kind of dialogue with Arab students. I have Arab friends in university but I never discuss politics with them.
 
Working and living part time in Sderot under rocket fire, has not made me lose perspective that there are human faces on both sides of the Israeli-Arab conflict. On either side we have a right to voice the opinions that we believe to be true. I was glad to have the opportunity to so for the citizens of Sderot.

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1  |  Binyamin from Israel, Thursday Jun 05, 2008
It sounds like you had an productive and educational experience from the debate. Thank you for speaking your mind...and heart about Sderot and Israel. May you continue to be blessed with success and happiness.
2  |  Ken, Johannesburg, Thursday Jun 05, 2008
Root problem is that Islamists are trying to make the entire world from Phillipines to USA one big Islamic state and will never accept or "non believers".
3  |  michelle lidor texas, Thursday Jun 05, 2008
why are we always shocked when we hear the Israeli arabs rant about how much Israel needs to change in order to fit their agenda.It is obvious they hate us, they feel we wronged them by being in Israel period.
4  |  Ron Oster in Mentor Ohio, Thursday Jun 05, 2008
It always strikes me odd that whatever is said by a Jew / Israeli is either ignored, rebuked or rediculed. But, whatever is said by an Arab / Palestinian is honored and taken at face falue as truth. What would be the result if any Arab nation were told that they must be secular and NOT an Arab or Muslim nation? Why are Jews and Israelis the only ones that must give in?
5  |  jean-yves from Ivory Coast, Thursday Jun 05, 2008
I hope it helped your Arab counterparts understand a little bit what it looks like being surrounded by hostile forces. Long live Israaƫl...
6  |  Donald A. Rosenberg, Thursday Jun 05, 2008
It is ridiculous to talk to arabs that refuse to recognize Israel as a Jewish country which allows all religions to live vs. arab countries which are muslim oriented and oppress other religions. arabs believe in double standards, and until they accept that they are wrong, it stupid to even talk to the unintelligent.
7  |  Rachamim Ben Ami, Mindanao, Philippines, Thursday Jun 05, 2008
There is a character limit so please bear with me: Whai IS not so suprising however is the fact the Arab team DID accept 10 million dollars USin 1948 valued currency for "Palestinian" currencies abandoned during wartuime, all of which was returned in 1953 after all related subjects had been taken care of. What is also not amazing is how the more than 1 hundred million Jewish Refugess (as opposed to less than 400,000 Arab refugess created by "al Nakhba") with more than 1 billion US in 1948 valued currency was never even claimed for by Jewish Refugees froim Arab Lands.
8  |  JJ, Friday Jun 06, 2008
An interesting account, thank you. Sounds like you did great. I think it's time Israel tells Arabs who don't want to live in a Jewish state that they are more than welcome to joint their Palestinian brothers in the West Bank or their Arab brethen in 22 other Arab states. The border can be redrawn so that many of their villages become part of the West Bank. We can't keep tolerating this kind of mutiny from a fifth column hostile population. Those that DO want to live here as a minority should be treated with the utmost respect and as equals in every way.
9  |  Fran in Netanya, Friday Jun 06, 2008
Arab students at Haifa University - a predominantly Jewish institution in a Jewish state? Did you ask her about the Jewish students in any university in any Arab or Muslim country? She takes her rights in Israel for granted and then turns around and attacks the State. I do not think Arab Israelis realize how well-off they are here or how badly they, in particular, would fare if they came under Arab rule.
10  |  Vinegar Hill, Madrid, Spain., Friday Jun 06, 2008
# 6 Donald Rosenberg. Recognising or not recognising the existence of a country is a very petty point to make especially when used within the context of what you are trying to say. The article by Anva demonstrated that dialogue is possible and, that if more people like Anva were to do the same, then the Israeli /Palestinian situation would indeed be on the road to negotiation and eventual peace.
11  |  Vinegar Hill, Madrid, Spain., Friday Jun 06, 2008
# 9 Fran. Fran, why don't you advocate giving the people living in Israel the opportunity to come "under Arab rule"? I think you would find a lot of support from the Ethopians who are marginalised and from oriental Jews who run into obstacles at every turn when trying to incorporate themselves into the middle classes.
12  |  Mireille Mechoullam, Sunny Isles beach, Florida, Friday Jun 06, 2008
It's really sad for all the Arabs who live in Israel to be so ungrateful. I was born and raised in Egypt and in 1956 I was expelled with another 80 thousands with only one luggage. We were not allowed to vote because we are Jewish. One of the benefits is they have this right and they have members in the Knesset and they have free speech. In any arab country if they speak against the government they will be in jail and tortured. And if they are so displeased by Israel being a Jewish State they can chose between 22 arab countries which anyhow where they belong.
13  |  Marco Polo, Canada, Sunday Jun 08, 2008
Israel is a democratic island surrounded by goofy Islamist. No Arab countries are democratic. What I hear from the Arab masses is "destroy Israel, kill all Jews". "FREEDOM FROM RELIGION is a must if the Middle East is to see peace. Man created God to its own image not the other way around. Quit the religious fiction and get on with being humanists.
14  |  Golani-Canada, Wednesday Jun 11, 2008
While i applaud the dialogue and i do believe it necessary and should continue,the subject of Israels existance is constantly questioned.I recently saw the Doha debates on the BBC and i was appalled by the defelction and sidestepping of questions by the Hamas rep.The questions were asked by mostly Muslims.In addition to give you an idea of the state of education in the US, i had an 18 year old kid tell me that Muslims never joined with the Nazis in world war 2 despite evidence to the contrary.All i hear now is death to israel and death to america,and its getting sickening.
15  |  Hansscholl, USA, Wednesday Jun 25, 2008
While I don't think that some Palestinian Arabs should fire rockets at Palestinian Jews in retaliation for the occupation and killing of civilians, it amazes me how strong of an ideology Zionism is. Immigrants move to Palestine and declare that it belongs only to one tribe, use military action to secure it and don't seem to have any remorse about killing and expelling the natives and keeping them prisoner in ghettoes. As a child I visited a concentration camp in Belgium and it amazed me then and it amazes me now how right-wing ideologies still have a hold on some people.
16  |  Aryeh, Wednesday Jun 25, 2008
Sounded like an interesting forum and experience, but you have no real power to change anything. I don't need a get together of tolerant people who have no money to fight for change. So, in actuality, it was a waste of time.
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