The Israeli Initiative: No one will 'rape' Israel

Kudos to MK Elon for standing up for the Israeli public. It is about time our politicians speak the truth. You have my vote.

i like Benny Elon!

Haaretz is an embarassment. Thank G-d Jpost is still fair and balanced. Way to take Landau to task MK Elon. Kol Hakavod!!!

Mr. Elon is right, of course. I find it incomprehensible that Israelis, who live in such a tiny, vulnerable piece of land, cannot or will not see the danger of leftist policies and their extraordinarily corrupt government. May G-d open the eyes of the people to see what is truly happening. May He give them the resolve to oust their current government. May He give them the wisdom to realise that the US is not in a position to be able to guarantee their security if they continue to give away their land to their enemies.

I spend a lot of time reading the newspapers and I didn't see David Landau's shameful piece!

HaAretz is of course well known for its continuing support of despised groups like Peace Now, Machsom Watch and others.

Groups that are made up of total non-achievers whose only claim to fame is betrayal!

Rice has now come out of the closet and makes statements such as .. "her childhood in the segregated U.S. south helped her to understand the plight of Palestinians and the fear felt by Israelis".

No wonder she and David Landau resonate!

Israel suffers from tyranny of the leftist press and a vicious cycle which sustains its monolpoy on the truth. David Landau is the editor of Ha'aretz and it is only natural that he will not publish his own dastardly remarks lest he draw condemnation and be shown up as the Israel bashing, self hating, post Zionist he really is. He must be taken to task by other newspapers or else by one of his own "token" rightists. It would be best to expose him on Mabat or a prime time talk show, but the left controls the public owned media as well.

Apparently Mr. Landau has had quite the history of pushing this. In an article posted at the following link [ Link to page ] mr Landau has been pushing this agenda since the 70's. I as a Christian in the U.S. I TOTALLY disagree with the giving of land for Peace and the thought of giving Jeruselam (even a tiny portion) makes me sick to my stomach. What I find truly disturbing is that he still calls Israel's presence "an occupation". Thank you for your terrific and wonderful thoughts on this Mr. Elron, may G-d bless your efforts and G-d bless Israel! Kol Hakavod

So many years Jews have been
persecuted that some of us began to despise their own nation. These individuals think I am not as bad as all Jews, I am much better. Therefore, I should criticise Israel. Such a trend is known not only in Israel but in the US, where to castigate Israel is rife.
I think that the current government in Israel is the source of such journalism. Strong leaders beget brave nations, and in the oipposite, the failures at the helm create Landaus.

Landau's statements nauseate. His portrayal of Israel as a state that needs to be rescued from itself is deplorable. What Israel does need to be rescued from is a leftist judiciary that has colluded with the media to force post-Zionist, defeatist views down the throats of the Israeli public. A viable democracy depends on an informed public. I pray MK Elon and the Israel Initiative succeed at expanding the public policy dialogue to include views other than those of Ha'aretz.

To understand the actions of the Israel "government" and this Landau's remarks:
2000 years ago the Talmud predicted that a Sign that the Days of the Final Redemption have arrived is that Chutzpah will flurish, the young will insult the elders, and worst, the descendants of the Gentile Mixed Multitude that left Egypt with the Jews and built the Golden Calf, would rule Israel. So we see the prediction has come true. But it appears few Jews are aware of this.

I talk with a lot of different people about the middle east and I can tell you one thing:

Those who hate Israel, read Ha'aretz.

Inspite of the negative comments, coming from within or without Israel, against the land of Israel AND whatever happens today, tomorrow or after, rest assured Mr. Elon, that after the whole world comes crashing down, Israel will still be standing. TRUE ISRAEL will continue to stand firm in the promises given by THE ALMIGHTY, THE CREATOR to your fathers of old.

Very sane man. Too bad he's not running the country, or the media.

MK Elon,
When you are Prime Minister, please remember to prosecute these traitors. You should start a list.

I am in total agreement with the Israeli initiative.
Although I wasn't born in Israel, I feel very much a part of it and feel it is also my home land. I pray everyday for the peace of Israel and the great city, Jerusalem. I pray the Israeli
initiative will go foward and that our president
will support it and reconize its value.
May God bless your work. I LOVE ISRAEL.
Shalom!

Unfortunately, David Landau's comments are typical of the mainstream journalists in Israel .It is disgusting that he could so debase Israel by begging Condoleeza Rice into 'raping' it into submission. In a democracy, people are of course, able to criticize anything that they please, including the State of Israel, but the trouble with the left is that they are so blinded with hatred and criticism of Israel, that they never find anything positive to say and solely focus on what they perceive to be the enormous 'injustices' which they accuse Israel of.

Mr Elon, you give us hope. G-d bless you and give you strength. I'm also offended by Landau's statements and distressed that there was no national reaction to them. If this is due to lack of Hebrew media coverage, maybe something could still be done: people could distribute Hebrew translations of the report in every synagogue, in street corners, in shopping malls. And particularly, let's disseminate those statements in the western media. Americans need to know what the Israeli left is really about.

Hear hear!!! If I were Israeli I'd vote NU/NRP (but since I'm American I'll vote Republican) ;-)

The Left abuse , violate and exploit the 'Freedom of Speech' to undermine Israel` right to exist as a Jewish State , and to undermine the territorial sovereignty of the Jewish State

The Left abuse , violate and exploit the 'Freedom of Speech' to undermine Israel` right to exist as a Jewish State , and to undermine the territorial sovereignty of the Jewish State

Kol Hakovad Benny Elon-

Everything the Left has done to bring peace has brought just the opposite. It brings terror, missiles and more war. Why? Because weakness is sickening to the enemy. Like a weak animal, they seek to finish it off.

Only a strong Israel who asserts her right to the Land and defeats her enemy conclusively will bring lasting peace. Only borders to the Jordan, Erertz Israel will bring lasting peace.

Finally some sense in a country that seems to have gone mad. This is why I voted NU/NRP and will continue to. "The Last Fanatic" is also an effective tool. Please let's stop hating ad destroying ourselves, and instead let's adopt the kind of internally-motivated dignity that MK Elon represents.

We love you Benny!

What took you so long? How come Mr. Landau isn't tarred and feathered? This is a very sad time not only for the Israelis but for all Jews as well.

Excellent. Many more Israelis - and their 'politicians' should be taking similar positions. Where are they?

I MET MK ELON YEARS AGO AFTER A TEL AVIV COFFEE SHOP BOMBING. I KNOW HE IS CONCERNED ABOUT ISRAEL'S SAFETY,HE DOSN'T GO FOR ALL THE SMOKE AND MIRRORS PUSHED AT ISRAEL IN THE PEACE FOR LAND SKEEMS. HE'S A LEADER OF THE PEOPLE ,FOR THE PEOPLE. OPPONENTS CALL HIM RADICAL, I SEE HIM AS LOGICAL. MK ELON IS A REFRESHING FACE OF A DAY GONE BY, WHEN ISRAEL ONLY CARED ABOUT ISRAEL'S SURVIVAL,NOT PLEASING A U.S. PRESIDENT WHO'S ON A QUEST FOR GREATNESS. PRIME MINISTER ELON SOUNDS GREAT IN MY EARS.

Mr Landau's lack of self-pride reminds me of the tale of a train traveller who when asked by the conductor to present his ticket was told: "You don't belong on this coach". When the traveller protested, he was informed: "This is a third class coach - your'e ticket is a First Class ticket"!

Come on Mr Landau, cut out emulating the self-hatred of your co-religionist Torquemada forebear. Yes, a Jewish inquisitor!

May Israel, and the Jewish People be saved from the psycho pathology emanating from our own ranks.

Benny Elon, is the Israeli leader with the wisdom needed to lead Israel out of the mess that the current adminstration has made for Israel. It's good to know that there is an alternative to the bungling, weak Olmert types. David Landau should be prosecuted for his crass, traitorous remark begging for Israel to be raped. The Ha'aretz is a worthless piece of paper except for use as a fish wrapper. I wish you success, Mr. Elon.

Nations demand loyalty to the state from their un-elected and elected officials against all enemies, foreign and domestic.

Figure out the US citizenry reaction should US Congress members voice their support to UBL , willingness to hand out Texas and California to Mexico sovereignty , support Alaska independence ,
and the secession from the union of Lakota Native Americans who inhabit large chunks of the states of N. & S.Dakota, Nebraska, Kansas, Colorado, Wyoming, and Montana .
"We are no longer citizens of the United States of America and all those who live in the five-state area that encompasses our country are free to join us"
As they said this last month, Dec. 19th, 2007.

Do not forget your greatest non-jewish allies in the world, the evangelical Christian community. These people love Israel and the Jewish people more than can be expressed. Our Adonai is Jewish and we have seen Him cry for the Jewish people.

We love you all and Sha-alu Shalom Yerushâlâim

LOUDER, BENNY!!

If the two-state solution is such a great idea in the first place, why do all the world leaders stay at the King David Hotel and shut down half of Jerusalem when they visit? Why don't any of them split their time between Jerusalem and Ramallah? If the PA is such a great government, why must Israelis be the only locals providing security . . . at a cost of $1million per visit? I wonder this as helicopters fly over my apartment and my wife shop for Shabbat at the Ben Yehudah shuk until after President Bush finishes his visit to Ramallah.

Israeli's are known world wide for being gauche,brash,loud.
But this Landau imbecile takes the cake,This is Butt
clenching embarrassment,The thing is what are you going to do about this,will any of you get off your butts and go and picket Haaretz,till this bum is tossed out.

Most comments here are just useless adulation. The only intelligent and useful comment in my view is No. 34 by Carlos Murphy from Australia.
The bottom line is: Benny Elon you are right of course, but what are you and the people in Israel (hopefully the majority, but I would not hold my breath) who think like you are going to do now? Go and picket that rag of Haaretz and demand that the traitor who wishes for Israel to be raped be kicked out. If the Israelis are not prepared to defend Israel then tell them to prepare the suite cases and hand the keys to the country to Abbas and Hanyeh!

Perhaps someone should compile a list of all those self-hating Jews in Israel and the world. Then they could be publicly shamed. There's nothing like knowing who the enemy is. But that doesn't answer the question - why do they do it? And why do some of them live in Israel, adding insult to injury? More power to you Benny, good luck and shalom.

Mr. Benny Elon, you are a true Jewish hero. Please keep fighting for real peace. I am thrilled to see that Senator Brownback supports and endorses your peace plan. Please speak to more US senators and representatives and get the word out into the US and Israel so that people will stop being fooled by the swindling of "palestinian" nationalism and the plo terrrorist thugs who run that charade.

You are soo right!

How can we expect international leaders not to be blinded to the fact that the Jewish presence in Judea and Samaria, as in Tel Aviv, help protect the State of Israel from Palestinian terrorism by ensuring a Jewish presence there, if our own opinion shapers and journalists express such disgusting and crude desires such as the 'rape' of Israel? David Landau's comments show that despite being the editor of one of Israel's leading papers, he is clueless when it comes to suggesting possible realistic solutions for solving the Arab-Israeli conflict, amongst which the 'rape' of Israel will not help.

Thanks for this opportunity to post. There will never be a peace for Israel as long as there is radical Islam. As long as there are leaders like President Geo. Bush and Condi Rice. President Bush is legacy building. Legacy building at the expense of Israel's survival. I'm ashamed of this. Then Israel has leaders who would abandon their own country's safety for "peace." And Landau. Not an elected official commenting in the most treasonous words about his own country. Please cling to G-d. Cling to your faith. And protect your country. NO divided Jerusalem. Tell Geo. Bush to go fish somewhere.

Agreed, Mr. Elon! Israelis need to hold their heads up high - they have much to be proud of.

An ethically poor individual, has let us all down, he claims to know much, but it is very evident, by his action, that he understand very little. It is painful to see him in a position of leadership in a paper. Have all, who have been offended, stop supporting Ha'aretz; boycott their services; demand the board answer as to why is it that this individual is still associated with their paper. Peacefull civil action, especially not purchasing any services, from an offending organization, goes a long way in resolving such issues.
Mr. B. Elon my respect and regards.

Mk Elon will not be pushed around by the likes of Rice or Bush, or those who side with them in the Israeli government. Just who is Bush to come to Israel to demand that she give up her land, the East Bank, and give it to the Arabs, for another Arabian state. Has everyone forgotten the lie of the term "Palistenian," or "west bank." Let's start the process back to truth by using the correct terminorlogy, for as those who promote the lie of "Palistenians," and "west bank," well know, terminology sets the agenda. Once you cave in with terminology the slide down hill begins.

Benny, you are so right. PLEASE do something. PLEASE, tell us what we here in chutz laaretz can do!

I can't believe what my country is doing. This foolishness must be stopped. "Land for peace", is not what the Palestinians want, they want the destruction of Israel and they and anyone that supports these rediculous ideas must be stopped. It is not Olmert's land to give away, this land was promised to Abraham and his decendents by G-d, not to Muslim terrorists. I don't know what else to do but I am furious. Please, if there is anything that I, or we can do here in the US, please let us know.
G-d Bless,
Pastor Duke
PETRA Christian Assembly
www.petra43920.com

NO concessions of "land for peace". "When a man's ways please The LORD, He maketh even his enemies to be at peace with him". Be bold, be courageous little "giant-slayer". Keep your original deed, contracts and give up none of your land (re-)taken fairly in pure and self-defensive battle!

Please my fellow Jews,I am a Jewish American.I Beg you Children of Abraham, Do Not let the United States Push Israel Into a "false" peace treaty! Open your eye's, Smiling faces tell lies!

The Jews have returned to the land promised to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, according to Bible prophecy. No ruler of any country can alter that fact. And no Bible prophecy has indicated this return will be followed by another diaspora. The Jews are back to the land promised to their Fathers for good. Only a fool tries to go against with will of the Lord, of whatever nation. See Psalm 2.

#43
Exactly my thoughts as well

How can we expect international leaders not to be blinded to the fact that the Jewish presence in Judea and Samaria, as in Tel Aviv, help protect the State of Israel from Palestinian terrorism by ensuring a Jewish presence there, if our own opinion shapers and journalists express such disgusting and crude desires such as the 'rape' of Israel? David Landau's comments show that despite being the editor of one of Israel's leading papers, he is clueless when it comes to suggesting possible realistic solutions for solving the Arab-Israeli conflict, amongst which the 'rape' of Israel will not help.

As an American Christian, not terribly well versed in the Middle East, what you and others like Ms. Glick are saying seems blatantly obvious: Palestinian leadership really wants to destroy Israel and all these 'negotiations' are just a way of faking out the naive West and world community. One doesn't have to look terribly hard to understand this.

Olmert's actions seem insane and suicidal. So either he and his ilk (like Landau) are so Godless their minds are warped and deceived and/or they know damned well what they are doing.

I will pray for you Benny. At last one righteous vexed soul who dares to speak up. I can't believe that all Israel stands silently by as their God-given land is given away for nothing. If they truly knew where this was leading them, they would rise up in revolt of the current govt. I beg you, don't give in but trust in the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob!

If I remember correctly, President Bush did not do very well in school:

G = the number of square miles in Gaza
W = the number of square miles in the West Bank
R = the average number of Qassams, mortars, and other hostile projectiles fired per day from Gaza
X = the average number of impacts per day in Israel

X = (W/G) * R + R

* Note: the conservative estimate given by this formula is only valid during the “Peace Process”

Todah rabah, for your sentiments. They are shared by me. I can't speak for other Jews because I never would've believed that after the holocaust Jews would so readily sell out the miracle that was and is the establishment of the state of Israel. But I guess when one is well fed you don't complain about hunger! If those Jews who sell Israel out were on a train bound for Auschwitz they'd be crying, "if only there was an Israel." Thank you for your stand.

thank you.

I stand up for my brother country israel i am a us citizen and i also believe that israel should not be divided but the scriptures are already written in advance and how could gods word not come to pass it must come to pass but one thing is for sure israel is gods holy land and the jewish people are the apple of his eyes i pray with you for the peace of israel God be with his people i pray also for my country and for my president and for revelation to come to him about israel karen

Well written Mr. Elon. May more Conservative, Right and wise Israeli voices speak out on Israel's well-being and defense. JPost thank you for publishing his words.

Mr. Elon's plan is the only plan to bring peace to the region!