Monday Oct 22, 2007

Conservative Currents: What is Conservative Judaism?

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As a Conservative Rabbi, and, for those who know my background, as a former orthodox Jew as well, I am confronted with this question quite often by orthodox, reform and secular Jews alike.

My own congregation members sometimes ask me this question, trying to delineate that elusive boundary which differentiates them from members of other streams of Judaism. One would imagine that by now I would have a set answer all fashioned out, but the truth is that a clear-cut definition of Conservative Judaism is not so simple to provide, and I find myself revising my answers time and time again. I am not sorry that this is so, since formulaic answers are often less challenging than dynamic ones. 

So what have some of my answers been?

At first I used to give the easy answer, which is that Conservative Judaism lies somewhere in the vicinity between orthodox and reform Judaism, being neither as severe as the one nor as lenient as the other. However, this simple retort is very problematic.

To start with, it defines us by who we are not, and Conservative Judaism is very much about what we are, what we do and believe, rather than who we negate. Also, this definition makes us seem like a compromise, a “supermarket of values” some say, and that is not my feeling at all.

A slightly more sophisticated response is that we adhere to tradition while accepting modernity. Although this is true, I don't think we can use it to define our uniqueness.

As I mentioned, I grew up in an orthodox household, and my parents certainly saw themselves as traditional as well as modern Jews. Few Jewish sects today wholeheartedly reject modernity – and I don’t mean only the acceptance of modern technology; I am speaking of some internalization of modern humanistic values, as well.

I have recently had a chance to read Simcha Cohen’s influential guidebook for the Haredi couple, called “The Jewish home”. In it he admits: “It would be a transgression of truth if we were to state that we have been entirely uninfluenced by the non-Jewish perception of work and working out of home [for women- A.], and so it would be untrue to say that [Haredi] women go to work only to help support the household” (p.57). In other words, from ultra-orthodox to secular Jews, we all deal with the same tension between modernity and tradition, neither of which any of us can shrug off.

I then came up with the answer that a Conservative Jew is one who is obligated both to Halacha and to the concept of pluralism. This usually raises an eyebrow or two: Can the twain ever meet? Although it is relatively easy to show how pluralism is an integral part of the Halachic system (Just think of the dictum “Elu V’Elu Divrei Elohim Haim” – “both these and those [differing opinions in Halach] are the voice of a living God”), it is more of a challenge to demonstrate how a Halachic Jew can hold a pluralistic stance toward non observant Jews, holders of other faiths and non-believers. I deeply believe it is not only possible but also imperative that we do so, and if you are looking for a philosophical foundation for this claim I urge you to read David Hartmann’s “A heart with many rooms”. However, the problem I have with this definition is not with the pluralistic side of the equation but rather with its counterpart. It is a fact, lamentable perhaps, that many Conservative Jews do no consider themselves as Halacha observers. To be honest, I’m not sure they all aspire to be Halachic either.  

Recently, over the past high holidays, in fact, as I was looking over the very diverse crowd of people who came to pray at our synagogue, another definition of Conservative Judaism occurred to me, rising out of the previous one, and I would like to share it with you:

I think that Conservative Judaism is  a Judaism for everyone and that it makes a positive effort to be accessible to all. I will try to explain what I mean.

Professors Jacob Katz and Moshe Samet define orthodoxy as a phenomenon of reaction. They argue that orthodoxy is not a direct continuation of Judaism as it was before the age of enlightenment. Part of orthodoxy’s new character is the fact it struggles against those who choose modernity over tradition. This reaction led leaders of Orthodox Judaism to decrees such as the need to avoid eating a secular Jew’s cooking, not counting him in a Minyan (no chance of counting a woman in any case…), and not allowing a secular Jew to marry an orthodox one.

Thus, orthodoxy chose the route of borders, of gate-keeping and of preserving Judaism “safe” for those committed to it by highlighting its structure of hierarchy. Many sociologists would argue that one of the most effective instruments for creating a community is to mark those who don’t belong by some sort of indication. Clearly, Orthodox leaders make good use of this tool.

To continue this line of thought, I would like to argue that the unique and challenging thing about Conservative Judaism is that it is traditional Judaism with open borders. When Solomon Schechter, one of founders and leaders of Conservative Judaism in the States, was trying to define his task he spoke of “Judaism of the whole Jewish peoplehood”, thus restricting the need for a specific movement, since he saw his potential audience as “everyone”.

This concept of Conservative Judaism as tradition with open borders came home to me through seeing the Masorti (aka Conservative) movement in Israel in action:

One of the most moving projects which the Masorti movement in Israel has initiated is the Bar/Bat Mitzvah for the Special Child project. When Judith Edelman Green established this project ten years ago under the auspices of the Masorti movement, she wanted to express how Judaism should be accessible - literally and figuratively - to everyone, no matter what limitations he or she might have. By now this program has helped thousands of children with Cerebral Palsy, Down syndrome, mental retardation, hearing impairments, autism and blindness to find innovative ways of having their own “Aliya” to the Torah. No one is turned away on the basis of the severity of his or her disability. People who participate in one of these ceremonies for the first time are frequently moved to tears in view of the deep excitement and joy on the faces of these children. Through the ‘opening of borders’, children who might not have been eligible to celebrate their coming of age in any other Jewish setting, found a spiritual home. This, for me, is Conservative Judaism at its essence: the conviction that the common base for all of us is the will to be part of the Jewish religion, and the fact that our hearts face God.

This concept means that we must not turn people away from our movement and synagogues, nor discriminate among them, on basis of gender, sexual preference, or level of observance. I am aware that my last sentence might infuriate some readers, among them Conservative Jews.

Where does one draw the lines? Some might ask, not unjustifiably. Well, my answer is that is all has to do with what we choose to focus on. Drawing lines is something the Judaism has a pretty good reputation for doing. Why don’t we focus for a change on the flexibility of those lines?

I readily admit that this concept raises major challenges for us. For starters, it does not enable us to differentiate ourselves from any fellow Jew since we want any fellow Jew to feel he has his or her share in Judaism. It also makes it impossible to reward the more observant among us even though we see observance of Halacha as one of out most cherished values. In other words, we can’t use our congregations to make sinners less welcome. And, of course, it is so much easier to feel “we belong” because others can’t. The challenge of forming a group which doesn’t define itself in mirror terms of “the other”, yet retains a sense of community and commitment, is anything but simple.

However, these are challenges that I'm proud to take upon myself, since they allow me to apply the value of mutual responsibility to all my brethren, and since it allows me to enrich my Judaism with an enormous variety of views, which challenge it and help it to continuously grow and develop.

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1  |  Stanford Newman, Monday Oct 22, 2007
Re: sexual orientation. Can the injunction against MALE homosexual behavior in Deuteronomy to the effect that "Lying with a man as one would with a woman is an abomination" be interpreted in relation to one's genetic nature? A homosexual male would not "lie with a woman" at any rate, so he would not fall under "as one would with a woman". I am pretty "straight" (married, 4 children and homosexual activity is personally repugnant) but I have had many homosexual friends who are decent G-d loving people, and I refuse to accept that their genetics makes them sinners. I am also curious as to whether female homosexual behavior is not mentioned (at least to my knowledge) in the Torah. Also does the injunction relate "spilling of one's seed" without a chance of procreation, or on the other hand, forcing a prisoner to do a homosexual act is considered by most cultures as the major humiliation of that person. Could the Biblical injunction actually be a warning to not humiliate a prisoner in this way?
2  |  Shlomo, Monday Oct 22, 2007
So you set the boundaries for your belief, but dismiss the boundaries of belief for others as too exclusive. In that case, why doesn't each person set their own boundaries and whatever they believe seems to be acceptable. Leading to the question, why have boundaries at all, why have a belief at all? Why not just worship yourself and your beliefs as religions have done for countless millennium. The answer why not for a Torah believing Jew, is that the Torah is the arbiter of belief and boundaries, and if we don't like it- we don't like it, but it is the boundary, and in being permanent, we have a rock upon which to stand, as opposed to the moral hodgepodge of defining ones own belief and reinventing that definition as ones personal exposure increases. As you point out, the Torah is pluralistic, modern, and yes it has boundaries, but just like a fence around a poll in the house with small children, boundaries are not to be feared, but to be welcomed. Hopefully you can explore them and learn their reasons, as opposed to offering a generalized bias in the hopes that you present a more "enlightened" view since you have castigated the view of boundaries as having reason and scope and keeping the Torah alive as countless religions and cultures have risen and fallen.
3  |  Chaim Tolliver, Monday Oct 22, 2007
As one who made the move from Conservative to Orthodox, I have yet to walk into an Orthodox shul that doesn't share the same sort of openess as described in this piece. I have seen people from all streams of Judaism welcomed. Halachic values aren't sacrificed but no one is ever made to feel unwelcome. I've seen many times where secular men were counted in the minyan and called to Torah. And if you've ever been to a Chabad, it's not uncommon to see secular Jews outnumbering the black hats-
4  |  Joseph, Monday Oct 22, 2007
You could just as easily be describing Modern or centrist Orthodoxy such as Britain's United Synagogue, we also try to include whomever we can. Our schools, like JFS and King Solomon, take anyone who is Halachically Jewish and offer a very broad Jewish and secular education. This may explain why Conservative Judaism has never become a major player in Britain.
5  |  CZ, Tuesday Oct 23, 2007
Your three examples of what orthodox Judaism excludes are simply not true. As long as the food is Kosher, anyone will eat it, whether cooked by a Jew or non-Jew. Not counting non-religious Jews in a Minyan? No Chabad house would survive! And marriage? As long as the partner is Jewish, there are no problems. Obviously it would be strange for a truly religious person, but that doesn't negate the fact that in Halacha, a Jew is a Jew is a Jew.
6  |  Gershon Moshe, Tuesday Oct 23, 2007
I grew up in the conservative movement, attend a conservative shul regularly, but also attend Chabad and modern orthodox regularly. I consider myself a "post-denominational" Jew because I am tired of the labels and competition among the "movements." I am welcomed in any shul or minyan I attend, because I am a committed and reasonably knowledgeable Jew. We're too small to have so many artificial boundaries and competing "movements." It's time to put this aside and educate ourselves and our children to be better and more observant Jews, and stop defining ourselves by which "movement" we support. I just want to be known as a reasonably observant and committed Jew, not as a "conservative" Jew or a "modern orthodox" Jew. The fact that these labels can't even be defined by the author of this piece shows that they are becoming increasingly irrelevant to those of us in the fields.
7  |  Rob, Tuesday Oct 23, 2007
There is one fairly clear definition of conservatives: Halacha, but with the difference that modern rabbis can overrule the interpretations of previous rabbis. (Usually because old interpretations no longer fit modern life.) Like the traditional ban on Cohens marrying converts because they are suspected of being impure being removed. Other interpretations are just a little more lenient (like electricity on Shabbat). Authority is still rather centralized, and some changes can be made without removing the core tenets of Judaism. Unfortunately, some recent decisions have gone beyond interpretation, and ignored the Torah itself. This has caused fractures like "conservadox" groups that doubt the dedication of other supposedly "conservative" shuls.
8  |  J. Strom, Tuesday Oct 23, 2007
The JP's line on the home page perhaps sums it up: "Clear definition of Conservative Judaism not simple to provide." When, as you say, "the unique and challenging thing about Conservative Judaism is that it is traditional Judaism with open borders" you are essentially portraying it as a square circle. How can something real be so non-definable? Perhaps, it is because Conservative Judaism picks some things chosen by the Almighty and some things chosen by man; the balance between these two also chosen by man. The real question then is, how much of Conservative Judaism is what the Almighty wants? Or, how much of it is Judaism?
9  |  Yaakov halevi, Tuesday Oct 23, 2007
You seem to be implying that the main boundaries between orthodox and conservative Judaism is in attitudes, but neglect to mention the real and easily definable difference between the two. Orthodox Judaism highlights the decision-making power of the Rabbi's as being the almost infallible enacters of God's will as dictated in the torah (hence the many takanos that Orthodox Judaism holds strictly by) whereas the conservative's reject those in favor of modern reformation of rabbinic edicts. Attitude vary based on the individual, not the movement. The difference between these two movements are their attitudes towards the power of the Rabbis
10  |  ML, Tuesday Oct 23, 2007
With modern orthodoxy looking for creative ways to change halacha when needed (e.g. freeing agunot and accepting converts) and the reform movement returning to tradition in its appreciation for Hebrew prayers and Jewish practices, the conservative movement is finding it harder than ever to define itself in a meaningful way (most of the comments here confirm that this author has not succeeded despite his commendable effort). Commitment to prayer, kashrut, shabbat and other observances among Jews between and within all of the denominations often differs in degree rather than in a clear and consistent acceptance or rejection. As I see it, there are three primary things that distinguish Jews who identify with the conservative movement. First, our acceptance of our daughters, wives and mothers as full members of our minyanim, as torah readers and as prayer leaders. Second, our insistence on matrilineal descent for determining Jewish status at birth and our acceptance of converts who aren't committed on day one to a fully observant lifestyle. Third, our tendency to pick and choose which and to what degree to observe entire areas of halacha such as kashrut and shabbat, with the majority even falling short of the standards set by the conservative law committees and rabbis.
11  |  ML, Tuesday Oct 23, 2007
The differences are a question of degree more than anything else. Modern orthodoxy changes halacha by reversing earlier rulings to save agunot or to enable Israeli economy to survive the Shmita year. Reform is embracing rituals such as Kashrut and traditional prayers. What conservative Jews have done differently are evident in specific changes to Halacha: inclusion of our daughters, sisters, mothers, aunts and wives as members that count toward a minyan, and as torah readers and prayer leaders. In addition, convervative jews tend to do more (but not the only ones) picking and choosing of which categories of halacha to observe including major ones such as kashrut and shabbat.
12  |  ML, Tuesday Oct 23, 2007
The differences are a question of degree more than anything else. Modern orthodoxy changes halacha by reversing earlier rulings to save agunot or to enable Israeli economy to survive the Shmita year. Reform is embracing rituals such as Kashrut and traditional prayers. What conservative Jews have done differently are evident in specific changes to Halacha: inclusion of our daughters, sisters, mothers, aunts and wives as members that count toward a minyan, and as torah readers and prayer leaders. In addition, convervative jews tend to do more (but not the only ones) picking and choosing of which categories of halacha to observe including major ones such as kashrut and shabbat.
13  |  William, Wednesday Oct 24, 2007
WE ARE ALL JEWS... What is the defining characteristic of the Jewish People? The Ramban tells us that it is connection to Hash-m. Whether the author is a Jew who does not believe this entirely or is lost in confusion, his estrangement is a tragic loss for the Jewish People.
14  |  Ilana, Wednesday Oct 24, 2007
The problem with your definition is that it doesn't lead to continuity in Jewish observance. In practice, many -- probably most -- Conservative Jews are not especially committed to Halacha or even want to be, as you noted. Therefore, a Conservative Jew who *does* want to be Halachic, and to raise their children to be observant, doesn't get the support they need from Conservative institutions (like schools and youth movements) or Conservative communities (whose members may or may not keep Kosher or Shabbat). Furthermore, your definition doesn't encourage growth in religious observance. Conservative Judaism has done some beautiful and important work, but it hasn't managed to sustain observant communities and this is contributing to its decline.
15  |  Yaarel, Wednesday Oct 24, 2007
Conservative Judaism represents the Jewish people. About 10% of Jews are highly observant, likewise about 10% of Conservative Jews are highly observant.
16  |  David Katz, Wednesday Oct 24, 2007
to #6-Gershon I say "AMEN". Contrary to the author, I see Chabad as the most welcoming and inclusive. Is Conservative movement becoming so welcoming because it has been losing membership? Just wondering.
17  |  Beryl Sholom Tzvi, Wednesday Oct 24, 2007
Here is the true definition of Conservative Judaism! Conservative Judaism attempts to maintain the ritualistic traditions of our faith and the acceptance that Jews Evolve. You throw out many of the mitzvoth of Torah that do not fit your "Humanistic" views of the world. This stems form the belief in your movement that Torah and Hallacha can be interpreted beyond our sages to fit your hazy views of Judaism. The best examples of this are the acceptance of Homosexuality and egalitarianism. For 3000+ years Homosexuality has been an abomination to G_d. Now all of the sudden is acceptable. Intermarriage is now a problem within the movement and you and the leadership are impotent to stop it. I resigned from a Conservative congregation for several reasons, one is that the message you are sending the youth is the same as the reform Movement. You can do what you want and eventually we will acquiesce and allow it. This is why you and Conservative Judaism have no clear cut definition. Each Congregation is interpreting Hallacha to suit their needs and the Centralized Authority is becoming "Inclusive" and making repugnant lifestyles acceptable. You and the Conservative Leadership will soon find yourselves out of work. Many observant Jews are turning to Orthodox, and the Reform Movement is becoming more ritualistic. As your constituency dwindles what is next, Patrilineal Decent?
18  |  shlomo frid, Thursday Oct 25, 2007
Rabbi: I like it when I perceive your realization that you need to reinvent conservatism , just as recent as the last high holidays; Its a religion that needs to be invented, and that implicates the unavoidable; Thank you for being honest Shlomo An ultra-orthodox jew
19  |  Abbushuki, Thursday Oct 25, 2007
It has to be difficult to be a Conservative rabbi. Not recognized as having Smicha in Israel, only one of several opinions when congregants ask questions, being the shepherd of a herd of Katz who stray in every direction and being constantly politically pushed to be more lenient on intermarriage, gays and other touchy topics. It was not nice of the author to define Orthodox in ways completely foreign to current realities as other writers have pointed out. In experience, I have found that a significant number of temple members choose between reform or conservative based simply on how they happen to like the rabbi, not the hashkafa. Definitions? The full name of the movement is properly 'the CONSERVATIVE wing of the LIBERAL movement'. It really is not more than that. The entire liberal movement denies the Revelation of Torah and accepts the 'Inspiration' of its 'authors'. Accordingly, since Torah was written by men, it is by nature fallible and reviseable. Reform/Conservative are just a matter of degree. What the 'enlightened' ones simply cannot address, despite so many efforts, is the fact that Liberal Judaism does not have enough 'active ingredients' to generate a positive growth in the number of Jews who count themselves in their fold by natural growth. Whether from inadequate Jewish education of children, a fertility rate of merely 1.4 children per Jewish mother, a disastrous rate of intermarriage and divorce, it is absolutely clear that all of liberal Judaism is complicit in a complete failure to repopulate the Jewish community since the Holocaust. No, the traditions of Classical Judasim are not a reaction to liberalism; they are what works to regenerate Jewish grandchildren in significant numbers. Unless liberal Judaism wakes up to simple needs of propagation: to nurture higher birth rates, day school education through high school, a culture of a 25 hour Shabbat and a serious observance of kashrut, as they say in French: Svet gornisht helfn.
20  |  Moshe Goldberg, Thursday Oct 25, 2007
Question for the Rabbi: How could you have elected to embrace Conservative Judaism without knowing what it is? If the decision was not intellectual it was emotional. This means you are now seeking to intellectually justify an emotional decision. Perhaps seeking the intellectual truth first might have resulted in a different outcome. Any observant Orthodox Jew knows the definition of Orthodox (or, Halachic) Judaism. A life lived as dictated by the Almighty. The dictates are found in the G-d-given Torah, and those dictates are the mitzvot. It is really that simple. Once we play around with anything G-d-given we end up with something that ultimately cannot endure. Only truth endures. This explains how, what should be a most unattractive lifestyle, namely a so-called "restrictive Orthodox Judaism" is alive and well in the face of the attraction of easier alternatives (such as Conservative Judaism). And this after thousands of years during which there have been other attempts to dilute Judaism; none of these have survived. This truth is underscored by the thousands of non-religious Jews who have elected to follow Orthodox, halachic Judaism. That is where they found truth. They did not find it in Reform of Conservative Judaism. The vast bulk of those streams get there membership from Orthodox Jews who's children had a waining commitment to Judaism. In other words, in general, when people wish to go up spiritually they tend to discover Orthodoxy, and when people tend to seek an easier way they fall back on the more liberal movements. Here is another way of putting it: Every Jew walking the globe who is aware that s/he is Jewish, if you examine his ancestry you'll find that almost all of the time, going 3 generations back is a set of devout Orthodox parents. Conversely, Can there be found anywhere in the world a fifth generation Conservative Jew? Reform Jew? Try even finding a fourth generation or even a third generation such person (3 generations are around but not common)! Truth endures. Deviation dissipates.
21  |  matithayu, Tuesday Oct 30, 2007
In attempting to define the ethos of today's Conservative movement, its spokesmen generally have a difficult time articulating the program. And no wonder; because few if any speak of the origins of the movement, from the school of Positive Historical Judaism as delineated by Zechariah Frankel in 19th Century Europe, to its evolution and permutation on American soil. Significantly, the Positive Historical approach grew out of a rebellion by rabbis interested in reform, but who were repulsed by the second reformed rabbinical conference convened by Abraham Geiger, when the early reformers formally rejected such concepts as mashiach, resurrection, the necessity of Hebrew for public worship and Jewish people hood. Rabbi Frankel and his colleagues formally rejected the extremist reform of Geiger and his camp, and attempted to forge a religious philosophy that would remain traditional in practice but accommodate modernity. (Interestingly, Rabbi Samson Rafael Hirsch accomplished the same rapprochement within the strictures of Orthodoxy, thus birthing "neo-Orthodoxy.") These early rabbis were more or less orthodox in their personal practice, but were reluctant to state publicly the immutability of Halacha in its entirety, ascribing some parts to revelation and other parts to "rabbinic tradition." They never really articulated with any precision, however, what the term "rabbinic tradition" meant to them, what parts were sacrosanct, and what parts they believed could be changed. Upon being named head of the newly organized Breslau Rabbinical Seminary, Rabbi Frankel was challenged by Rabbi S.R. Hirsch to issue a public statement of the religious principles guiding the Seminary. Rabbi Frankel chose not to respond, thereby causing Rabbi Hirsch and other contemporaries to challenge the orthodoxy of the institution. Whatever Rabbi Frankel's motivations, his choice not to articulate any guiding principles has in fact become a de facto principle unto itself, giving license over the years for the movement to become less traditional in observance. As often happens, the laity became far less observant far more quickly than its rabbis. Incongruously, however, the laity began dictating change to its Rabbis, often based on external conditions. As a consequence, they have issued numerous t'shuvot that have strained the parameters of Halacha to the breaking point. Although the Conservative Movement still claims to guided by Halacha, it's difficult to see how its myriad of changes and pronouncements, particularly in recent years, can be halachically justified. As one who grew up in a shul that was originally traditional but became affiliated with the United Synagogue of Conservative Judaism, I've personally witnessed the relaxation of standards -- from family purity and kashrut to conversion, marriage, divorce and education. Even for those of my contemporaries (folks born in the 1960s and later) who are not personally observant, the intellectual disconnect between the halachic process and the actual evolution of the movement was difficult to reconcile. And the concomitant rise of intermarriage provides a stark realization of where less observance and education leads. As a consequence, many have left to search for spiritual meaning within a more traditional framework. That is, many of them strive to live more observant lifestyles, but find it difficult within today's Conservative environment. While many of us believe that one's level of observance is personal, the beauty and vitality of the Halacha and a belief in revelation is that it sets goals to which we should aspire and by which we can measure our achievement and our growth as Jews. It is difficult if not impossible to do that when the law is treated as simply a sociological construct that is subject to drastic change outside the boundary of its structure
22  |  Daniel Friedman, Monday Nov 05, 2007
I AM INFURIATED WITH THIS SLANDER AGAINST ORTHODOXY: He writes "This concept means that we must not turn people away from our movement and synagogues, nor discriminate among them, on basis of gender, sexual preference, or level of observance." Orthodox Jews do nothing of the sort. Conservative and reform Jews pray in orthodox synagoges all the time and are encouraged to. Even though there are differnt gender roles in religious service, this is because the Talmud forbids women to lead religious services (Megilla 23a). Orthodox follows the torah and doesn't change the torah to fit it's political agenda. Finally, with regard to homosexuality, if there is any discrimination, then it is contrary to orthodox belief. His statement can only refer to orthodox JEWS and not orthodox JUDAISM - an insulting generalization given that I do not practice such discrimination.
23  |  Kishkeman, Friday Nov 09, 2007
Conservative Rabbi, Are you going to post anything else?
24  |  Avrohom, Sunday Nov 18, 2007
Stanford Newman (#1), you wrote, "Re: sexual orientation. Can the injunction against MALE homosexual behavior in Deuteronomy to the effect that ‘Lying with a man as one would with a woman is an abomination' be interpreted in relation to one's genetic nature? A homosexual male would not "lie with a woman" at any rate, so he would not fall under ‘as one would with a woman'". Your argument is totally specious. Specific acts and prohibitions for actions are directed to everybody unless someone is excluded through the Torah itself. There are punishments described in Torah for actions people take. A human court has no insight into "genetic nature" and the Torah would be rendered meaningless according to you. The point is, you simply make up what you want and call it Torah. You want Torah to contort to your world view. But the truth is you are created through Torah, and all of us have the obligation to adhere to the world in which we are created. If you choose to ignore Torah, that is your right. But you have no right to distort Torah to fit into your own skewed world view.
25  |  Jacob Maasland, Schoonhoven ,Holland, Tuesday Jul 01, 2008
as a non Jew living for 8 years in Jerusalem, I wanted ti learn about Judaism and a friend introduced me in the Concervative Center of Judaism, Agron Street. Isend a lot of time there, did severel studies, and 6 years an evening class about Talmud. I learnd a lot about Judaism and myself. I was always very welcome. it was a great time. Thanks you
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