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Wednesday Oct 15, 2008
Double Standard Watch: Why I support Israel and Obama Posted by Alan M. Dershowitz
Comments: 144
I am a strong supporter of Israel (though sometimes critical of specific policies). I am also a strong supporter of Barack Obama (though I favored Hillary Clinton during the primaries). I am now getting dozens of emails asking me how as a supporter of Israel I can vote for Barack Obama. Let me explain. I think that on the important issues relating to Israel, both Senator McCain and Senator Obama score very high. During the debates each candidate has gone out of his and her way to emphasize strong support for Israel as an American ally and a bastion of democracy in a dangerous neighborhood. They have also expressed support for Israel's right to defend itself against the nuclear threat posed by Iran which has sworn to wipe Israel off the map and the need to prevent another Holocaust. There may be some difference in nuance among the candidates, especially with regard to negotiations with Iran, but supporters of Israel should not base their voting decision on which party or which candidates support Israel more enthusiastically. In the United States, Israel is not a divisive issue, and voting for President is not a referendum on support for Israel, at least among the major parties. I want to keep it that way. I want to make sure that support for Israel remains strong both among liberals and conservatives. It is clear that extremists on both sides of the political spectrum hate Israel, because they hate liberal democracies, because they tend to have a special place in their heart for tyrannical regimes, and because they often have strange views with regard to anything Jewish. The extreme left, as represented by Noam Chomsky, Ralph Nader, Cynthia McKinney, Norman Finkelstein and, most recently, Jimmy Carter has little good to say about the Jewish state. But nor does the extreme right, as represented by Pat Buchanan, Robert Novak, Joseph Sobran and David Duke. When it comes to Israel there is little difference between the extreme right and the extreme left. Nor is there much of a difference between the centrist political left and the centrist political right: both generally support Israel. Among Israel's strongest supporters have always been Ted Kennedy, Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, Barney Frank, Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama. The same is true of the centrist political right, as represented by Mitt Romney, George W. Bush, Orrin Hatch and John McCain. Why then do I favor Obama over McCain? First, because I support him on policies unrelated to Israel, such as the Supreme Court, women's rights, separation of church and state and the economy. But I also prefer Obama to McCain on the issue of Israel. How can I say that if I have just acknowledged that on the issues they both seem to support Israel to an equal degree? The reason is because I think it is better for Israel to have a liberal supporter in the White House than to have a conservative supporter in the oval office. Obama's views on Israel will have greater impact on young people, on Europe, on the media and on others who tend to identify with the liberal perspective. Although I believe that centrists liberals in general tend to support Israel, I acknowledge that support from the left seems to be weakening as support from the right strengthens. The election of Barack Obama - a liberal supporter of Israel - will enhance Israel's position among wavering liberals. As I travel around university campuses both in the United States and abroad, I see radical academics trying to present Israel as the darling of the right and anathema to the left. As a liberal supporter of Israel, I try to combat that false image. Nothing could help more in this important effort to shore up liberal support for Israel than the election of a liberal president who strongly supports Israel and who is admired by liberals throughout the world. That is among the important reasons why I support Barack Obama for president. Alan M. Dershowitz is a Professor of Law at Harvard. His most recent book The Case Against Israel's Enemies: Exposing Jimmy Carter and Others Who Stand In The Way of Peace has recently been published by Wiley.
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daniel Izhar Israel,
Wednesday Oct 15, 2008
I agree a 100%.
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Robert Shafton, Chicago, IL USA,
Wednesday Oct 15, 2008
I would have to disagree with Mr. Dershowitz's analyses with respect to the diagnosis of the disease (namely political anti-Semitism) and moreover his prescriptions for achieving health (ridding ourselves of this age-old hatred). He is correct to have identified that anti-Semitism is more prevalent among leftists today than on the right side of the specturm; but curiously he favors the former nevertheless. Why? Because he hopes to "combat that false image," that Obama will help to change the hearts and minds of Europeans and the sophomoric. It was a similar mentality that birthed Oslo....
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Ephraim Rubinger,
Wednesday Oct 15, 2008
To even compare Obama's very recent and very convenient pro-Israeli statement that he made at a recent AIPAC meeting and which he wtihdrew the following day, with John Mccain's life time support of Israel is laughable. Dershowitz is smarter than that. and that's why he performs political acrobatics to justify his suppoirt of Obama.
Like many, (but not all), pro -Israel liberals, when it comes to a choice between Israel and left wing policies, Dershowiz has given his answer:. Israel comes second.
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annie samuelson, pittsburgh, pa, usa,
Wednesday Oct 15, 2008
Jesse Jackson, who knows Obama well and whose son is helping run Obama's campaign, spoke in France the other day about how Obama will change America's policy in the Middle East. According to the New York Post, "Jackson believes that, although 'Zionists who have controlled American policy for decades remain strong, they'll lose a great deal of their clout when Barack Obama enters the White House.'"Obama supporters like Mr. Dershowitz ignore all such evidence (and there is plenty of it) at their own peril.
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Ron Canada,
Wednesday Oct 15, 2008
I really hope Obama is what he says he is. I pray that what he says is really what he feels and wants for America. What if he is saying what you want to hear? What if the unsavory characters that he was associated with do influence his policy? Can you take a chance on that? Is your Democratic ferver so blind that you do not question anything?
By the way I support most of what Obama says but I feel he is saying what I want to hear.
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BK, Gainesville, VA, USA,
Wednesday Oct 15, 2008
Thank G-d the professor votes in Massachusetts and NOT in Florida. That tune you hear Obama singing now during the campaign might be the Star Spangled Banner or Hatikva. It is though very different from the tune he sang when he serenaded Wright, Ayers, ACORN, and the Fruit of Islam back in Chicago. I have always admired Dershowitz as a brilliant defender of Israel and as a champion of Jewish causes. But I think he's wrong here. I do not trust Obama to be the steadfast supporter of Israel Dershowitz thinks he is (or hopes he is). McCain's support is visceral--Obama's is expedient.
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Susan Krieger, Boston, MA,
Wednesday Oct 15, 2008
I think Professor Dershowitz makes a good point about why support for Israel by Obama would have a benefit that support by McCain would lack. But that notion is based on the assumption that Obama would, in fact, be a strong supporter. His words, as they so often do, say the right thing. But some of his past actions say otherwise. His close relationships with Jeremiah Wright (encourager of divestment from Israel, Farrakhan admirer, etc) and Rashid Khalidi (former PLO spokesman) concern me a great deal, and I wonder how Dershowitz can overlook them.
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Ariel NY,
Wednesday Oct 15, 2008
I totally disagree with Alan Dershowitz support for Barak Obama, Jews were always blamed for any political affiliation. Only a few years ago Jews were blamed for being communists, so really it does not matter what people say or think the Jews are all are nothing, We are communist, we right wingers and centrist, it depends who the world power is and which govenment at that moment is in power. As far as I understand most of the Jewish vote(Around 75-80%) will be for the Dem and Barak Obama as traditionally in USA they vote for DP. ON foreign policy there is no question Jews shoud support Maccain
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DAVID PA,
Wednesday Oct 15, 2008
ALAN,
YOU NEED TO SPEND MORE TIME OFF CAMPUS AND BROADEN YOUR HORIZONS. COMBATING ISRAEL BASHING FROM THE LIBERALS WILL REALLY NOT COME FROM THE LIBERAL CAMP AS IT IS SO STRUCTURED TODAY. NEXT YOU WILL WANT ME TP BELIEVE THAT TERRORISTS ARE IN THE BESY POSITION TO PROTECT THEIR VICTIMS.
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George W. Busch, Lockport NY,
Wednesday Oct 15, 2008
As a younger American male, I have always associated Israel with a liberal base. While I feel his article is fundamentally correct, Alan is slightly off in his understanding of today's youth and their ideology concerning Israel. I will award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
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Carol USA,
Wednesday Oct 15, 2008
Obama is the most liberal senator in Congress--he has never crossed party lines. Obama has flip flopped on his position on Israel and the Jews. Obama is not a freiend of Jews and Israel and if elected you will be sorry you were so deceived=--just listen to Jesse Jackson saying that Obama would not be for the Zionists.
McCain has always stood for Jews and Israel--he has said he would do anything to stop radical Israel and keep Israel's land for Israel--where God says it belongs.
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Anat in Jupiter, FL,
Wednesday Oct 15, 2008
Alan,
The key factual error in your analysis is that Barack Obama IS a member of the far left which, I agree, is as anti-Israel (and at times, anti-Semitic) as the far right. If Barack Obama was a centrist Democrat, your analysis would be valid but he's not. We're in for a Carter II administration and no effort to hope it isn't so will change that fact.
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Chaim - Israel,
Wednesday Oct 15, 2008
Dershowitz's comments are normally well thought out and worth reading. However, why does he insist on calling Obama a strong supporter of Israel when there is not the slightest evidence that he is? America is in the midst of an election. At this time, virtually all leading candidates will speak in support of Israel. Ater the election, that is a different story. There is no evidence that Obama's pre election vocal support of Israel will translate into action. In fact, the available evidence suggests otherwise. It took but a day for him to backtrack on moving the U.S. embassy to Jerusalem.
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Chaim - Israel,
Wednesday Oct 15, 2008
(Continued)
Not only is there no evidence Obama is a strong supporter of Israel, Dershowitz's reason for preferring a liberal president is also flawed. He wants Obama to shore up support for Israel among liberals, which he admits is weak. In other words, liberals are, at best, unreliable, fair weather friends of Israel. While conservatives are truer, more reliable friends. Thus Dershowitz counsels catering to fair weather friends at the expense of true friends. That is simply dumb and self destructive.
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Tom, Sutherland, IA,
Wednesday Oct 15, 2008
Jesse Jackson believes that the "Zionists" will not be very important in an Obama administration. Personally, I do not believe one promise of Barak Obama; he has given me no reason to trust him other than his speeches and words. To him, that is all they are, speeches and words.
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Neil, Connecticut,
Wednesday Oct 15, 2008
Mr. Dershowitz, One question? Do you put your full faith in a candidate that stated that he sat in a church pew for 20 years and NEVER, EVER heard one anti-American anti-Israel invective from his spiritual leader, a.k.a., the Rev. Jeremiah Wright? "No, no, no, not G-d Bless America, G-d d_ _ _ America!" Just one quote among hundreds of other despicable comments regarding our wonderful country from the person who brought about spirituality to our Democrat nominee. (The Rev. Wright's taped sermons were also for sale in the church lobby each and every Sunday.)
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Dave, NY, USA,
Wednesday Oct 15, 2008
Both candidates have questions surrounding them regarding Israel. McCain selected an unknown quantity as running mate, who, up until recently, walked around sporting a "Pat Buchanan" button. Is McCain anti-Israel because of his association with (or rather endorsement of!) Palin? Hard to say what's right. Dershowitz has always been a constitutional liberal and a believer in pluralism, in addition to being a staunch zionist. I tend to agree with him that Obama is a saner choice, when considering other variables beyond Israel. Look at the state of the world, for goodness sake!
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James Adler,
Wednesday Oct 15, 2008
Thank you, Alan. It is vital that we keep the traditional strong support for Israel in the Democratic and Republican parties alike, keep it youthful and among seniors alike, keep it secularist and liberal-Christian and liberal-Jewish and among evangelical and Jewish conservatives alike. The youthful, energetic, John-Kennedy-like idealism of Barack Obama, who is strongly enthusiastic about the great Israeli democratic return to its homeland, will invigorate young idealists for Israel around the world. Leaders such as Theodor Herzl and David Ben-Gurion would very strongly support what Alan says.
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Odesa,
Wednesday Oct 15, 2008
There may be also another reason, for supporting Obama.
For some unknown causes, left side of the political spectrum, produces on average, better minds.
This is seen, not only in America, but thruout the world.
Case in point B.Clinton vs Bush.
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Manny, Chicago,
Wednesday Oct 15, 2008
The difference between McCain and Obama is that Obama is supported by the extreme left, while McCain is not supported by the extreme right. I understand that Dershowitz is a liberal living in the US, and he has other issues more important to vote for, but let's not mud the water. McCain has a long record of support for Israel. Obama has none, and his associations are very troubling.
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Maya, Sweden,
Wednesday Oct 15, 2008
KOL HAKAVOD, ALAN, GOOD THINKING AS ALWAYS! Unfortunately you don't seem to convince the dogmatic - but who can convince them? The dogmatic McCainers should stop and think, trying to imagine that an American president would actually abandon Israel, its bulwark and most important strategic asset in the ME! Come on, wouldn't this be totally irrational, if not suicidal? So let's stick to reality and honor the point Alan makes: that liberal (and handsome!) Pesident Obama would get so much credit around the world that he could afford to be tough (= would get away with it)! Good point!
- SHALOM
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Shel Zahav, Israel,
Wednesday Oct 15, 2008
Dershowitz was also a strong supporter of Carter and he also called the Israeli Supreme Court one of the great courts in the world. So, what does it mean that he supports Obama? Just that he is an American Jewish knee-jerk Democrat and that he doesn't have a clue about Israel despite all his talk.
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Louie, Atlanta,
Wednesday Oct 15, 2008
Per Jesse Jackson this week:
"The most important change would occur in the Middle East, where 'decades of putting Israel's interests first' would end ... although 'Zionists who have controlled American policy for decades' remain strong, they'll lose a great deal of their clout when Barack Obama enters the White House."
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Zosim Ioffe, NJ, USA,
Wednesday Oct 15, 2008
Dear Mr. Dershovitz,
I am sorry to say it, but for as an intelligent man as you are, your position sopunds very hollow.
Should Mr. Abama is elected, the experience will prove you wrong. I can actually bet on it.
Sincerely,
Z. Ioffe
Morganville, NJ
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Neil,
Wednesday Oct 15, 2008
To Dave of NY #17--Since you bring up the issue of Gov. Palin sporting a "Pat Buchanan" button, as your apparent litmus test for Ms. Palin's/Senator McCain's loyalty to Israel, why didn't you state that the Governor has ALWAYS (since her governorship began) had a small Israeli flag prominently displayed on her desk? Hard to compare what you point out compared to many of th far left wackos that have long been associated with the democratic nominee for president. That long list would utilize all and more of the 600 characters that we're limited to on this posting.
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Pam in Virginia,
Wednesday Oct 15, 2008
Mr. D,
I am afraid your comments are skewed and do not represent all. I am against Obama because of the obvious lack of truth he speaks and his alliances with know haters of Israel and America. Just today Jesse Jackson - also a "strong" supporter of Obama make anti-semitic remarks agains Israel and include Obama in his remarks. Next, I do vote and have vote consistenly for candidates that are not only pro Israel but also have a history and record for doing so. I've been voting for multiple decades so your remark stating it is not an issue in America is biased and untrue.
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Choni Davidowitz,
Wednesday Oct 15, 2008
It's not Obama as such or his policies that will determine his influence regarding the Jewish people.
I maintain that Obama will be "extremely good" for the future of Israel and the Jews in the Diaspora.
How? Islam will be emboldened to such an extent that anti-semitism will be come unstopable and unbearable (Heaven forbid) Jews , especially those in America,will have to choose between terrible afflictions or speedily return to their only safe haven- Eretz Yisrael.
Obama is God's "unlikely messanger" to wake exile-Jews from their long comfortable slumber, and inspire them to ascend (cont.
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Bob, Boston, MA,
Wednesday Oct 15, 2008
Obama's connections with creepy Carter's fellow anti-Israel colleague Brezizinski and others like him are troubling. Obama does say the right things as a Democrat, but his pro-Israel stance may be simply politically expedient. The way he changed his position on Jerusalem as Israel's capitol, one day after the AIPAC conference was quite revealing. I support the domestic side of what Obama is saying and do want a fresh start with our screwed up foreign policy, but am nervous about what his taking office will mean for Israel. McCain is a true friend, Obama is questionable.
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Rafael Jimenez,
Wednesday Oct 15, 2008
Hamas likes him too. So asfar as Israel is concerned, there are three possibilities:
1. Dershowitz and his fellowAmerican Jews are smarter and right, and hamas [and the other terrorist
groups] are dumber and wrong
2. Hamas is smarter and right, and the Jews are dumber and wrong
3. Hamas is right, but Amer Jews just don't really care about Israel
So which is it?
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ralph lewis,
Wednesday Oct 15, 2008
its the o j syndrome
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ME,
Wednesday Oct 15, 2008
Obama's committement to the politically expedient is obvious in his cpnvenient denial of his 20-year committment to his mentor and advisor, Rev White. given his choice of advisors and their views on Israel, his pro-Israel comments come from a similar source.
On will be able to count on him to defend Israel - to teh last israeli.
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Daniel Ivtsan,
Wednesday Oct 15, 2008
Never before have I disagreed with Dershowitz. I simply have doubts Obama is as pro-Israel as he claims.
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Heather USA,
Wednesday Oct 15, 2008
This would not be the first Jewish intellectual to make a historically significant mistake when supporting leaders at face value. It is nice to see a candidate put on a pleasant production, but the proof is what a person does when the cameras are not focused on him. Truth does not always look pretty, but it is the real beauty of John McCain, NOT Obama.
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Jonathan from Canada,
Wednesday Oct 15, 2008
Mr. Dershowitz has not learned the lesson that decisions should not be made based on increasing public opinion. Israel left lebanon, offered huge concessions at camp david and left gaza all in pursuit of enahncing Israel's image abroad. Nothing has changed - people forget. I don't know if McCain or Obama will be better for Israel, but to say that a liberal will appeal to the world's liberals which will ultimately benefit Israel is moot.
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Kal Palnicki,
Wednesday Oct 15, 2008
I am so weary of people telling me that they know precisely what Barack Obama, Jesse Jackson and ohers whom they dislke think. I spend a great deal of time reading and thinking. I will not wager one thin dime on what anyone else thinks. Those who claim to know confuse knowledge with belief. That is done by those who fail to understand much of what goes on in this world. What you believe is not what you know. It is just what you choose to believe.
Any of you who accept as truth anything a politician says are all fools. Have you ever met a truthful politician? Is there such a creature?
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Ger,
Wednesday Oct 15, 2008
Dershowitz, like Koch before him, conveniently ignores Obama's foreign policy advisors:- Brzezinski, Samantha Power, Susan Rice, Robert Malley, P. Farley---all of whom are vehemently anti-Israel.
Whose advice will Obama follow, them or Dershowitz and Koch?
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sdahlben- Boston,
Wednesday Oct 15, 2008
Mr.Dershowitz has chosen to take a position supporting Obama , then apparently made an assessment to justify such position and in the process undermines his long standing support for Israel causes which after all may have been only as an intellectual,non-genuine self-serving posturing.
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Tod Zuckerman , San Francisco,
Wednesday Oct 15, 2008
I very much appreciate Dershowitz's brave support of Israel. Nevertheless, I do not think that even Dershowitz believes what he wrote in this column. Dershowitz rationalizes that endorsing Obama will increase support of Israel among lefties, where , presently, support for Israel is almost non-existent. Wrong - just the opposite is true. Obama will presure Israel into making suicidal concessions - land for war (not land for peace). If Israel gives in, there will soon be no Israel. If Israel hangs tough, the lefties will hate Israel even more than they do now. Lastly, Obama's buddies are scary.
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Brian R. from Boca Raton, Florida,
Wednesday Oct 15, 2008
Alan Dershowitz has a disease that also afflicts many other American Jews (especially the elderly). The disease consists of (1) the inability to vote for a Republican even when the Republican is clearly better for Israel and the Jews than the Democrat and (2) living in the distant past and thinking that Roosevelt/Truman/Kennedy is still the President and still continues to set the tone for the Democratic party. The Democratic party has dramatically changed and is no longer in tune with Jewish interests. One could argue that Roosevelt was anti-semitic, but that is for another forum.
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Mladen Andrijasevic,
Wednesday Oct 15, 2008
One has just to listen to Obamas advisors Samantha Power, Robert Malley and Zbigniew Brzezinski at this link [ Link to page ] to conclude that either 1) Alan Dershowitz has never heard them speak 2) He has heard them speak but believes that they are pro Israel . Which is it?
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Ran V, Atlanta, GA,
Wednesday Oct 15, 2008
I wonder if Mr. Dershowitz's position does not include a knee-jerk reaction to Gov. Palin's Christianity. While justified by centuries of Christian anti-Semitism, I wonder (as a Christian of her ilk) that this fear is perhaps driving him to accept--too uncritically--Mr. Obama's words at face value, a naive hope (esp. during a political campaign.) My concern is that we are at a tipping point where "secular anti-Semitism" has replaced historical Christian anti-Semitism, and that the Left's antipathy toward Israel will become the fashion of all affected sophisticates.
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Paul Barnett,
Wednesday Oct 15, 2008
To many of you nay sayers who just think Obama is saying what we want 2 hear, those of you who can't get past Wright, a non issue (no smoking gun) on Obama's part, you are guilty of missing the point, & it is an important point. Dershowitz is addressing the world view of Israel & of the US. Under McCain, the world support of both the US & of Israel will continue spiraling down the toilet. Obama's approach is refreshing to not only many patriotic Americans, as importantly, to other nations. Nations who have abandoned the US. 2 effectively support Israel, need 2 regain the world support.
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