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Wednesday Feb 04, 2009
Double Standard Watch: The moral blindness of some "religious leaders" Posted by Alan Dershowitz
Comments: 59
Bill Moyers holds himself out to be a moral arbiter, based in large part on his commitment to Christian principles. Cardinal Renato Martino is a prince of the Catholic church and President of the Council for Justice and Peace. Former President Jimmy Carter preaches peace, based on the teachings of Jesus. Yet when it comes to the conflict between Israel and Hamas, all three are morally blind. In a widely watched television assessment of the recent conflict in Gaza, here is what Moyers said: "By killing indiscriminately the elderly, kids, entire families, by destroying schools and hospitals, Israel did exactly what terrorists do..." (emphasis added) Of course he also included the obligatory hedge that: "Every nation has the right to defend its people." Cardinal Martino went even further, making an obscene and historically ignorant, comparison between Israel's self-defense actions against rockets fired by Hamas at Israeli children, and the Nazi genocide against the Jews during the Holocaust. He said that the conditions in Gaza "resemble a big concentration camp." Concentration camps, of course, were places where Jews were held until they could be processed through the machinery of death, as part of a massive genocidal program that willfully murdered 6 million Jews. Any comparison between Israel's action in Gaza and those of Nazis during the Holocaust is not only obscene, it is blatantly anti-Semitic, which is supposed to be a sin under Vatican law. (It is apparently not, however, a sin for a Catholic bishop to deny that the Holocaust occurred at all, since Bishop Richard Williamson of Great Britain was welcomed back into the Catholic church after claiming that there were no gas chambers and that the Jews are lying when they say that 6 million of them were killed, when according to that bigot in robes, a mere 300,000 Jews died during the entire Holocaust. The batty bishop - who, like the Taliban, opposes higher education for women - also believes that no airplanes were involved in the 9/11 attack and that the buildings were blown up by explosives and rockets, presumably set and fired by the United States and Israel.) An essential aspect of Christian teaching, and especially of Catholic teaching, is the important principle that distinguishes between intentionally killing an innocent person, and unintentionally killing an innocent person in the process of legitimately trying to prevent harm to one's self or others. This concept, known as the principle of double effect, is central to Catholic theology. It traces its roots to Thomas Aquinas and has had enormous influence on moral thinking not only within the Catholic Church, but throughout Christianity and indeed in the secular world as well. Understanding and complying with this principle may literally mean the difference between eternal damnation and eternal salvation. That's how important it is. Except, apparently, when it comes to the Jewish state of Israel. Then suddenly moral blindness makes it impossible for church authorities to see, understand or apply this principle. Cardinal Martino is not the first church leader to try to create moral equivalence between the actions of Hamas in willfully and proudly trying to kill as many Jewish children, women and other civilians as possible, and the actions of the Israeli Defense Forces in trying to stop them from killing Jewish children, while inadvertently killing some Palestinian civilians who are used as human shields by Hamas. The Pope himself has been guilty of invoking such moral equivalence between these very different actions. Indeed it is fair to say that the Vaticans entire approach to the Israel-Hamas conflict has been to suggest a false moral equivalence. Church leaders know better. They understand precisely what they are doing. They are making utilitarian, pragmatic and very anti-Catholic cynical judgments calculated to bolster the influence of The Church in the Middle East. It might be understandable for secular nations to act in so amoral, if not immoral, a manner, but it is entirely unacceptable for the Catholic Church, which eschews utilitarianism and preaches moral consistency and absolutism to act in so cynical a way. This is especially troubling, because the church tends to forget its own teachings primarily when it deals with the Jewish people and the Jewish state. Its long history of discrimination and bigotry against Jews - slaughtering entire Jewish communities on the way to the Crusades, murdering entire Jewish communities during the inquisitions, fomenting pogroms, and allegedly signing a pact with Hitler during the Holocaust - should make it even more concerned about applying a double standard of morality to the Jewish state. But that's exactly what it does. And then it complains when critics point to this obvious double standard. This abuse of great Christian teaching is not limited to the Catholic church. Bill Moyers and Jimmy Carter both hold themselves out as exemplary Protestants, whose morality drives from the teachings of Jesus. Yet they too create false moral equivalence between willful murder, and self-defense that sometimes results in accidental killings because Hamas deliberately uses human shields in order to make it impossible for Israel to defend its own civilians without occasionally killing Palestinian civilians. How else could one read Moyers statement that what Israel did "was exactly what terrorists do." Exactly? Well not exactly! Not even close. As different as anything could be based on principles that Moyers' espouses in other contexts. Listen to a leading military expert - retired British Colonel Richard Kemp - who concluded, based on his extensive experience, that there has been "no time in the history of warfare when an Army has made more efforts to reduce civilian casualties...than [the Israel Defense Forces in Gaza]." Is that "exactly what terrorists do," Mr. Moyers? Jimmy Carter is even worse. He doesn't even see moral equivalence. He blames everything on Israel. Jimmy Carter should look in the mirror more often and he will see that he himself bears much of the blame for the death and destruction that he deplores. In his book, Palestine: Peace Not Apartheid, he says it would have been "suicidal" for Yasser Arafat to accept the generous offer made by Bill Clinton and Ehud Barak at Camp David in Taba. Remember that that offer included independent statehood for the Palestinian people on all of the Gaza and 97% of the West Bank, an end to all Jewish settlements, no checkpoints, a Palestinian capital in East Jerusalem and a $35 billion refugee reparation package. Think for a moment of what Carter is saying when he warns that any Palestinian leader who might accept such an offer would be assassinated. What is he saying about the Palestinian people? That they will never accept peace without violence? That they will always kill their leaders who make peace with Israel, as the Muslim brotherhood murdered Anwar Sadat of Egypt, and as Muslim extremists killed the first King Abdullah of Jordan. Whether he advised Yasser Arafat before the fact to reject the Camp David offer, which the evidence strongly suggests, or whether he is merely making that suggestions to future Palestinian leaders, he has clearly become a barrier to peace. If he in fact told Arafat to reject the offer, then he is an important contributing cause to the current crisis. The sad reality is that religious doctrines are as easily manipulated by cynical churchmen as anything Thomas Bentham ever proposed in the name of utilitarianism. Bill Moyers ended a letter to the New York Times in which he defended his moral equivalency statement by saying that to be indifferent to suffering is "to be as blind as Sampson in Gaza." No, Mr. Moyers, to be indifferent to the crucial difference between what terrorists do, namely try to kill as many civilians as possible from behind human shields, and what democracies such as Israel and the United States do, namely try to stop terrorists from killing with the minimum possible injury to civilians, is truly to be "eyeless in Gaza."
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J.M.Jordan, Germany,
Wednesday Feb 04, 2009
100 % correct, though supposedly only a "blog"! Also for the Catholic theology. To have a big sin, one has to KNOW that what one is doing is bad, to WANT TO do it being totally free to do so or not, and it has to be a really serious bad thing. Which, in simple terms, amounts to the precited. Also absolutely share the Cast Lead Gaza operation's military and moral evaluation as communicated by the "blog".
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Ivan D Winter,
Wednesday Feb 04, 2009
Impeccable logic. The absolute undeniable truth. BUT, NOBODY CARES! Since the advent of organized societies beginning roughly ten thousand years ago (the blink of an eye in terms of the cycle of life) there have probably always been men born tormented by the burden of knowledge and expressing absolute truth for the benefit of, and as a guide to the masses. Human rights as an all encompassing concept has evolved excruciatingly slowly over this period of time, except for a huge bump occurring after WW11. Since then however, the entire world has again been stagnating. Pray for another bump!
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john,
Thursday Feb 05, 2009
The weakness of the left is it's failure to recognize the evil of moral equivalency. Peace will only be achieved by destruction of evil. John
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p. taylor U.S.A.,
Thursday Feb 05, 2009
It's not suprising that some "christians" are missing the mark these days. The Catholic Church blinded many followers, and helped fuel the killings of many Jews and real Christians back in the Dark Ages, the catholic Church suppressed the truth and taught many lies, including Jews were evil,. The catholics quit teaching this since realizing it was not biblical, duh!!!. The Pilgrims came to America to escape the Catholic Dominion and persecution. Murder is not from God, self defense is, Israel is defending itself from Hamas who is out to destroy them.
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p. taylor U.S.A.,
Thursday Feb 05, 2009
Martin Luther broke off from the Catholic Church and started the Lutheran Church, Luther went back to justification by faith in Jesus, instead of justification by what the Pope says. Luther kept teaching Jews were evil until his later years when he realized this was a wrong teaching of the Catholic Church as well. Short History of why some "christians" are anti Jewish. Hate is not from God, God is love, Love does not want to destroy anybody. Hamas and any group or person who wants to destroy Israel is not from God. Israel has every right, like all nations, to defend itself from attacks
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Jim Black, Hosuton, Texas,
Thursday Feb 05, 2009
Please don't confuse Jimmy Carter with Christians in the U. S. or elsewhere and especially not with respect to Israel and 'the Jews.' There are many many people who are for or against Israel many of whom are Jews. But the greatest supporter of Israel and her people is the United States and its Christians in my experience. Thank you.
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Ave,Sweden,
Thursday Feb 05, 2009
Alan,you are a million time greater than JESUS!! On you shall every humanbeing be blessed !!!
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Ted, California,
Thursday Feb 05, 2009
The most troubling thing about Mr. Dershowitz's blog is that it needed to be written. One would have hoped that any decent human being could understand the difference between Hamas' and Israel's actions even without the impeccable logic of the article. I doubt however that Moyers, Martino, and Carter derive their anti-Jewish sentiment from religion; rather, they use religion as a convenient tool to cover up their political ideas.
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azza brisbane,
Thursday Feb 05, 2009
Thanks Alan...i admire your consistancy over the years! as for the church i am abhored by thier lack of backbone....And jimmy carter y'ms
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Joseph, London,
Thursday Feb 05, 2009
I always look forward to Alan's opinions. He looks at the law impartially and not tangled up in politics. The BBC and Sky were 100% right to oppose the one-sided appeal for Gaza, when most of the aid will boost Hamas terrorists. The PA or PLO should arrest Hamas leaders and put them on trial for murdering Fatah members and for war crimes such as using human shields and hiding in a bunker under Shifa Hospital, daring the IDF to bomb the medics and patients to get to Hamas high command! I wish Alan could be Israeli Prime Minister.
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jean la salle,
Thursday Feb 05, 2009
"concentration camps,of course,were places where jews...."false statement...concentration camps existed before,they were a creation of the british and were used during the boer war.don't banalize what happened during the second world war by using it for rhetorical purposes.
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Steven,
Thursday Feb 05, 2009
Who was Maximilian Kolbe?
[ Link to page ]
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SMauner, New York,
Thursday Feb 05, 2009
Brilliant!
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Steven,
Thursday Feb 05, 2009
So Mr. Dershowitz, how dare you claim that there are double standards. You Sir, are a Modernist and Revisionist with ill understanding of the Catholic Church and Christianity.
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steve, maryland,
Thursday Feb 05, 2009
In response to Jean, above, the fact that concenration camps existed before World War II doesn't make false Mr. Dershowitz's assertion that they were places where Jews were held to be processed for the death camps, nor does it make banal what happened there.
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Shelly, Delray Beach, Florida,
Thursday Feb 05, 2009
I have often disagreed with Professor Dershowitz, but if he keeps writing liek this, then we are now ion the same team. Anti-semitism is growing at an alarming rate. Madoff and Operation Cast Lead gave the anti-semites the excuse to come out of the closet in greater numbers than ever and the internet provides them the perfect shield from which they can hide behind their aliases. Just look at the comments in the New York Times any day. Obscene Anti Jewish diatribes are published without any editorial deleting. Keep up the good work Profrssor.
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Steven,
Thursday Feb 05, 2009
Mr. Dershowitz, I think you demean the many Christians who died in concentration camps along with their Jewish brothers and also fought bravely against Hitler to ensure that Israel returned as a Nation.
It may be a little absurd that you claim "Double Standard". If Christians didn't love Jesus, who was a Jew, then why have bothered at all?
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C Bozner,
Thursday Feb 05, 2009
#11 - Well spotted: concentration camps were invented by the British in the Boer War. However, even you should recognise that Moyers' use of the term obviously was meant to draw a parallel between Gaza and the Nazi concentration camps of WWII. It is this attempted parallel which is inaccurate and unforgiveable.
Please do not trivialize what happened during the second world war by correcting Dershowitz's use of a term which actually accurately reflected the source's intent. It is like claiming anti-semitic also means anti-Arab which almost no one means when they use that term.
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Steven,
Thursday Feb 05, 2009
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CWTickle , Omaha, USA,
Thursday Feb 05, 2009
Probably the greatest error of the Roman Catholic church is the preching of a false gospel that is leading millions of people to hell and then to be judgemental of God's chosen people, Isreal shows how far they are off. Yes Isreal is just a secular nation now but God has his eye on them and in a coming day they will acknowledge the true Messiah. Jimmy Carter's lack of understanding is troubling and while we are not to judge persons I think we are responsible to judge the activities and doctrines of persons wheather it is of God or...
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Jay, Philadelphia, Pa,
Thursday Feb 05, 2009
As a Catholic I want to say that just because this idiot bishop claims that the holocaust did not happen and that 9/11 was a government operation does not mean that any large numbers of Catholics believe this. We also think that what he said is a dangerous sin that will be used by the idiots in Hamas and whatever other Islamic terrorist organization to spread propaganda. Catholics strongly support Israel and we base many of our beliefs on Jewish tradition. I think the pope did not do this intentionally but made a mistake that he will regret. I strongly condemn the un-excommunication of this guy.
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Bitin Dawg, Tallahasse, Fl USA,
Thursday Feb 05, 2009
If I ever need a good criminal defense attorney Alan, I wish that I could afford you. You really zeroed in on the Bishops achilles heel. Yep, anybody that believes that 9/11 was a CIA or Mossad false flag operation is a bit off the rails. You shot his credibility right down. But now to believe that a lot of war time propaganda got into the holocaust narrative; WO HO, c'mon, of course it did. But laws to make it illegal to discuss such or to have an opinion contrary to the official narrative? Can not the truth stand stoutly on it's own? Shalom, Bitin Dawg BitinDawg@BellSouth.Net
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Ari - Riverside,
Thursday Feb 05, 2009
I think he means "Jeremy Bentham", not "Thomas Bentham.....
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Michael Greenberg,Ottawa Canada,
Thursday Feb 05, 2009
Greta blog ,Alan! The problem with both the conservative RC Church and with liberal lefty bleeding heart other Christians like Carter and Myersr are that their espousal of Moral Supremacy is in fact a failure to recognize EVIL....I challenge them --the Pope,Carter.Moyers to sit through a Goebels' inspired Nazi propaganda show of anti-Jewish messages to the German people and then to watch the brainwash attempts on pal youth with the Farfur and now Assud t.v. spots and to tell the World the difference,or to disavow them as EVIL,and that the MORAL side is is CLEAR-it ain't the "innocent"
PALS.
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Yaron Sacto,
Thursday Feb 05, 2009
Steven stop being a fool and listen to the total message of what Mr. D is saying. He was not pouncing on all Christians; maybe he was on all Catholics. I know that the Church doesn't represent all Catholics, but according to its theology it should. Therefore his condemnation of the whole is because what the head is doing. Get over it; I am Orthodox and I love that there is Christianity, I am friends with many Christians. To be intellectually honest doesn't mean being anti-Christian.
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John N. Ireland,
Thursday Feb 05, 2009
Mr.Dershowitz, I admire your writing and support of Israel. I think that many Nations should show greater support of Israel. I am a Catholic supporter of Israel and I have great respect for the Jewish faith. As with the Jewish people, all Catholics are not all the same and to generalise is limiting. The recent reconciliation of Bishop Williamson, who by the way was made Bishop without papal permission was badly handled. I hope that he will recant his horrible views. If not he should be shown the door very quickly. Anti-Catholic and Anti-Semitic views in comments on this site are a great pity.
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Rabbi Larry Mahrer - Parrish, FL,
Thursday Feb 05, 2009
Alan D. is not always 100% correct in his opinions - but they are OPINIONS. This time he hit the nail on the head and drove it straight. What is lacking in the public life of many religious leaders IS morality, and that is obviously correct in this instance. SHAME, SHAME !
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Karole du Pont Quebec, Canada,
Thursday Feb 05, 2009
Arabs in the Arab community seems to be understood as Muslim Arab since Muslims are the majority of the Arab population and that the Koran is written in Arabic. Otherwise one specifies as in Christian Arab. Arabs usually refer to the equivalent of antisemitism as Islamophobia. In the case of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, the pro-Israel positions are Zionists or collaborator with the enemy if foreigner and the Israeli themselves refered to as occupiers or the Zionist entity. For the hard fundamentalists, all Israelis are occupiers.Thus a good Jew is alien to Israel by Arab definition.
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Rob Barnett USA,
Thursday Feb 05, 2009
More nonsense from Dershowitz. While the 'concentration camp' usage is debatable, such camps don't necessarily mean death, but detainment. It has NOT been incidental, but quite deliberate, Israeli policy to blockade Gaza. There is also the distinction between ad bellum & in bello, which Dershowitz left out. Palestinians having in bello guilt and ad bellum innocence seems to be beyond Dershowitz's abilities. And no Vatican leader ever authoritatively proclaimed the slaughter of Jews. That some Catholics wrongly have done this doesn't make the Catholic Magesterium guilty of it. Pure nonsense.
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Rob Canada,
Thursday Feb 05, 2009
The Cardinal said it was a concentration camp, not a death camp. Gaza is probably closer to the camps the British created in the Boar War or the internship centres for Japanese in WWII - a civilian population concentrated in a small space, cut off from ordinary economic life, surrounded by a fenced manned by soldiers. The Cardinal was exaggerating, but he had a point.
May be there are justifications for this internment, but it still has the same feel for the population I expect.
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Richard, California,
Thursday Feb 05, 2009
John: absolutely right on. There is evil and there is good, and not as many gray areas as the left would lead us to believe. Israel is not always perfect, bt they have bent over backwards to prevent civlian casualties in their battles, unlike Hamas et al that want to generate more civilian deaths to spur propeganda agaisnt Israel.
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Sam, Boston,
Thursday Feb 05, 2009
I would genuinely love to understand how making comparisons between Israel's action in Gaza and those of Nazis is "blatantly anti-semetic". It may be an inaccurate comparison, but how is it anti-semetic??? Please, please, please enlighten me.
Unless of course branding someone anti-semetic is simply a means of disagreeing with them, without really making any productive or meaningful counter argument. If that's the case, then Dershowitz should definitely seek alternate methods for defending his ideas, becuase this is getting way too old and tired.
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Jean La Salle montreal,
Thursday Feb 05, 2009
to #15 and #18...
nowhere in the text referred to by mr.dershowitz is nazi concentration camp mentionned...nowhere.
the following words ..jesus bishop.christian catholic church...are mentioned more than 15 times.
i wonder what would this esteemed man would say if someone critisising a former prime minister a commentator and a proeminent rabbi would use 15 times the words yaweh judaism maimonides jewish theology jewish doctrine all in a political commentary....to say the least such an article would be caracterized as anti-semitic....and rightly so...this is prejudice disguised as commentary
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charles soper,
Friday Feb 06, 2009
Steven, you are a disgrace to Christ - how many Christians (esp Catholics) fought in order to establish Israel? What proportion of Christians died in death camps for the sake of Jews compared to the massive majorities who furthered their progress to the grave?
How can you claim to serve the Truth and so egregiously distort it?
Dershowitz ' analysis is both precise and accurate, many anti-Zionist Christians are up to their necks in hypocrisy and cant - the Vatican at the vanguard (latest moves disclaiming knowledge of Williamson's psychotic ideas notwithstanding).
I am a Gentile Christian.
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Alain,
Friday Feb 06, 2009
As always excellent Mr. Dershowitz!
Also it is important to express the fact that German Jews or Jews anywhere, NEVER EVER threatened the German people or Germany. Jews NEVER EVER had any claim on Germany. Jews NEVER EVER killed Germans. On the contrary German-Jews have been very proud to be German-Jews and Jews always had a great respect toward Germans and contributed in many many ways to the German culture, science etc...
Hamas, Hezbollah, IRAN before everything else want to destroy Israel and kill Jews as their sacred duty.
Carter and company want us to kiss them?
UNBELEIVABLE!
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ed hare usa,
Friday Feb 06, 2009
dershowitz is david and sampson combined in his untirind efforts to defend jews and israel.
the catholic church is totally without morals in its history of animus against jews. the vatican and pope pius are the constructive cause of the holacost from the agreement with hitler that allowed him into power to the use of visas ,denied to jews but freely delivered to mengele and eichman at wars end.the authorities that indexed banned books and authors sich as voltaire, despite studying mein kampf for years nevercould bring themselves to ban the book.
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Esav Benyamin - US,
Friday Feb 06, 2009
Steven, chill out. Dershowitz is not criticizing Christianity itself. He is pointing to specific professed Christians and showing how they violate Christian doctrine itself.
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P Finnegan, USA,
Friday Feb 06, 2009
Well done, Professor Dershowitz! Thank you for speaking the truth about these so-called 'christians' (deliberate small 'c'). I've despised Jimmy Carter even while he was US president, for being such a weakling. He makes my blood boil even now, with his blathering on about 'apartheid' in Israel. And now I find out the 'batty bishop' believes that the World Trade Center was destroyed by 'explosives and rockets' from the US and Israel?? He's definitely got a few bats loose in his belfry!
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Romanoz Australia,
Friday Feb 06, 2009
The Boer War was a guerrilla war where the Boer population supported the guerrillas. The policy was to separate the fighters from the population which was its source of food, recruits, medical care,intelligence. This is similar to your policy wrt the 'wall'. Unfortunately, the British were not up to supplying a large field army AND maintaining the people in the camps. The British did the same in Malaya separating the ethnic Chiness from the mainly Chinese guerrilas. The policy worked. It was not designed to exterminate people which was the policy of the Nazi camps. Please no cheap shots!
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G. Daniels-USA,
Friday Feb 06, 2009
As a Christian, I say Mr. Dershowitz is correct.
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Sylvia Zeevi,
Friday Feb 06, 2009
I just read Prof. Judea Pearl's article in the Wall Street Journal on Feb. 3rd. He is the father of the American journalist, Daniel Pearl, who was murdered by Islamic extremists. He has accused the U.S. "political elite" of accepting barbarism. Prof. Pearl writes: "Barbarism, often cloaked in the language of 'resistance', has gained acceptance in the most elite circles of our society. The words 'war of terror' cannot be uttered today without fear of offense." He accused former U.S. President Jimmy Carter of legitimizing terror as a negotiating tool. Don't confuse the "elite"with facts!!!
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Mark Robbins, Houston, TX,
Friday Feb 06, 2009
While this is another of Professor Dershowitz's low key but thorough and devastating commentaries, I feel confident he meant Jeremy Bentham, the philosopher whose mortal remains are mounted in a display case in University College, London, not Thomas Bentham, who is either the former Bishop of Coventry, (and probably therefore a "cynical churchman" himself) or a poker player, according to Google.
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Overaged, Canada,
Friday Feb 06, 2009
Trying to draw moral equations from any type of fighting and killing is not a good idea. As a Canadian; I just wish everyone would drop their guns. I mean everyone. What a world it would be if we did! As a Christian, I do not support the usual diatribes of "just war doctrine;" but I do see the need at times for a nation to defend itself. But; is it always self defense? I try to teach my kids: "only if it's self defense;" but how do we teach a nation this same principle?
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Tim, Malaysia,
Friday Feb 06, 2009
"Blessed are the peacemakers," not "blessed are the pacifists." Yes, while real Scripture believers try to live life according to the Messiah's words, many do not and instead follow local and international leaders. The 10 Commandments, the Divine Law which explains the two basic laws of love toward the Creator and towards man, have been ignored by all, and all have sinned. "Let him who is without sin cast the first stone." Dershowitz is calling upon each one of us to evaluate our position, and the Christian churches' position, on righteousness and our willingness to think and act righteously.
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Steven,
Friday Feb 06, 2009
Dear Charles Soper,
I take exception to your accusations. Perhaps you should be a little more open minded and sensitive towards the many Christians who gave their lives to defeat Hitler during WWII. God loves you and all of us even if you are not thankful for the people who bore the task. It makes perfect sense to recognize the effort. I suggest you take a few moments and consider why there are so many Crosses in Normandy. Hitler was pure evil and he cost many good people's lives.
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Steven,
Friday Feb 06, 2009
For the Record I would like to state that I am fully aware of how one Catholic Bishiop's comments can be abused. I would also like to go on record that I agree with Mr. Dershowitz and his references to St. Thomas Aquinas. However, when you single out Catholics in general condemnation for one Catholics comments I will say you are short sighted. Also, I might say that you are a hypocrite. The bond for the love of God should never be broken over the ignorance of fools. Our common enemy is Satan and we should know what his tricks are. Don't let yourself be taken in by division.
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bob jacobus-USA,
Saturday Feb 07, 2009
Being a catholic in the USA I find that there are many educated religious loonies in this world. It is unfortunate that some are in the catholic church. Jesus taught us love, but we must also return that love by following his word. I believe most people in my country feel the IDF is jutisfied in this war against an enemy sworn to elimanate Isreal. This cowardly enemy who hides behind its own people.I feel you had the moral obligation to wrire this report on the seemingly double standard these religious are taking. Perhaps they will wake up and find that you are right. Bless your true outlook.
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Mary in Seattle, Washington,
Sunday Feb 08, 2009
The godless far left tend to be without religious practices, spiritually lazy, possess enormous egos, and self centerness. The far left only want others to be "moral" and respond to the far left's sense of perpetual victimhood and blame of others. Unfortuantely the Jews have always been an easy scapegoats for the immature on the lazy far who seek to avoid responsibility rather than fact finding and seeking the truth. The left plays classic parent/child triangulation - victim, rescuer, persecutor. These same leftist "victims" turn into persecutors!
Excellent article!
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Ray Las Vegas, Nv, USA,
Sunday Feb 08, 2009
I have seen the movie "Exodus" many times. When Jews wanted to kick the British out of Isreal terrorism was used against the British Army. The Palestanians want their land back. Why not give them what is theirs? Many Americans are turning against Isreal as are alot of latinos.
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Ted Hewlett,
Monday Feb 09, 2009
Alan Dershowitz makes some good points, but neglects to mention the great support Isarael has enjoyed from a large section of the Christian public, particularly in the United States, and particularly from Evangelicals. --Not that the latter have received much thanks from some Jewish sources.
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Rabbi Isaiah Koenigsberg, New York City,
Tuesday Feb 10, 2009
I would like to know whether the United States ( or for that matter, any other country when fighting a war of survival with bitter enemies) sent its precious youth in the final months of World War II into Dresden and Berlin to fight house to house and hand to hand combat instead of bombing from the air the vicious enemy cities to smitherines?
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rabbiisaiah, New York City,
Tuesday Feb 10, 2009
I would like to know when Bill Moyers will awake from his bigotted stuper and realize that Rabbinic Judaism is the true religion of love. Both the Talmud and the highly influential halachic code of Maimonides clearly states that the righteous of all peoples have a share in the World to Come and that you do not have to be Jewish to get to Heaven. Only power hungery religions (such as the ones Bill Moyers and former President Carter profess to have) can exclude righteous, decent human beings from Heaven, merely because they question dogmas they find to be illogical. See my Google blog.
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elie mosseri usa,
Tuesday Feb 10, 2009
very good argument. logic and common sense, however, do not enter where hatred resides.
our friends understand us and our enemies will not be convinced even with an explanation.
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Mary,
Wednesday Feb 11, 2009
Understanding the "Christian Left" is to look no further than the Dark Ages, an era brought on by a need to be rid of the cruelty of Rome (modern day Terrorism) by retreating to monasteries that viewed the outside world as evil. Knowlege was evil. Modern day facts such as the Holocaust are denied. In the Dark Ages, monks spent their lives copying books, priding themselves they represented the "intelligence" of its age rather than a denial of reality. Jimmy Carter and Bill Moyers would return Christians to the denial of the Dark Ages, a retreat from reality. Islam can't wait.
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Steven,
Wednesday Feb 11, 2009
Let's all blame Bill Moyers, Jimmy Carter, and Holocaust Deniers for our problems?
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Ray Marshall, Minneapolis,
Thursday Feb 12, 2009
"...Williamson of Great Britain was welcomed back into the Catholic church after claiming that there were no gas chambers and that the Jews are lying when they say that 6 million of them were killed, when according to that bigot in robes, a mere 300,000 Jews died during the entire Holocaust."
Williamson was readmitted to the Church only insofar as now he has the ability to go to Confession and afterwards receive other sacraments of the Church. He still does not have the right to say Mass, hear Confessions or consecrate new priests. That necessitates much further rehabilitation.
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Seth in the good ol' USA,
Thursday Feb 12, 2009
What is sad to me, is that we have to defend Israel's push into the Gaza strip. Anyone that has any conscience should be able to comprehend the move by Israel. Let's see, 5 years of putting up with rocket attacks from Hamas? Israel showed restraint. Hamas and other terrorists use human shields precisely because it will make good press when Israel defends itself. No one seems too concerned about these little rocket attacks by Hamas that only targeted civilians. Didn't hear too much concern from the world when that was taking place.
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Arie Brand Sydney,
Thursday Feb 12, 2009
Whatever the doctrine of double effect in law the aggregate of foreseeable consequences of your action constitutes your intention. The more foreseeable the consequences for the reasonable person the more justifiable to impute intention. It is, I imagine, on some such basis that that Spanish prosecutor took up tbe case of the dropping of a one ton bomb by the IAF, on 23rd July 2002, on a crowded apartment building to get at one particular Hamas leader. In the event thirteen civilians were killed, among whom nine children. These civilian deaths were perfectly foreseeable.
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Gamba Johannesburg,
Tuesday Feb 17, 2009
Really Prof, get over your knee jerk defence of the present Isreali gov't's action in Gaza. Hamas might be a so-called terrorist group, but it doesn't justify a lack of real pragmatic leadership from the Isreali governments as per the real Palestinian question. What do you make of the South African context where Nelson Mandela came out (27 years in jail) and still embrassed the whites as also rightful owners of the country, South Africa. This is notwithstanding the decades of cruel white domination of black South Africans. Beware of the reckless defence of a failed policy.
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