Thursday Oct 15, 2009

Double Standard Watch: Goldstone backs away from report: The two faces of an international poseur

Posted by Alan M. Dershowitz
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With so much (though not all) of the civilized world justly condemning (or ignoring) the Goldstone Report for its distortion of the facts and its one-sided condemnation of Israel, Richard Goldstone himself now seems to be backing away from the report's conclusions - at least when he speaks to his Jewish audiences. 

In an interview with The Jewish Daily Forward, Goldstone denied that his group had conducted "an investigation." Instead, it was what he called a "fact-finding mission" based largely on the limited "material we had." Since this "material" was cherry-picked by Hamas guides and spokesmen, Goldstone acknowledged that "if this was a court of law, there would have been nothing proven." He emphasized to the Forward that the report was no more than "a road map" for real investigators and that it contained no actual "evidence," of wrongdoing by Israel. 

"Nothing proven"!  "No evidence"!  Only a "road map"! You wouldn’t know any of that, of course, by reading the report itself or its accompanying media release. In the text of the report itself, Goldstone neither sought to clarify nor explain what he now claims is the limited scope and legal implications of the report.  The report reads like a judicial decision, making findings of fact (nearly all wrong), stating conclusions of law (nearly all questionable) and making specific recommendations (nearly all one-sided). According to the Forward:

…the report itself is replete with bold and declarative legal conclusions seemingly at odds with the cautious and conditional explanations of its author. The report repeatedly refers, without qualification, to specific violations of the Fourth Geneva Convention committed by Israel and other breaches of international law. Citing particular cases, the report determines unequivocally that Israel 'violated the prohibition under customary international law' against targeting civilians. These violations, it declares, ‘constitute a grave breach’ of the convention." 

It is as if there were two entirely different Goldstone Reports: the first submitted to the United Nations and the second to the Jewish community. In speaking so differently to different audiences, Goldstone is reminiscent of Yasser Arafat, who perfected the art of double-speak, using bellicose language when addressing Arab audiences and more accommodating language when addressing western audiences. 

Goldstone apparently lacked the courage to stand up to the other members and staffers of his commission and insist that his clarifying language be included in the report itself. Nor did he have the courage to file a dissenting or concurring statement. Instead, he spoke out of both sides of his mouth, sending one message to those who read the actual report and a very different message to those who read his words in the Jewish Forward (and The New York Times, for which he wrote a more ameliorative op ed on the day after the release of the Report). In doing so, he is trying to have it both ways. 

Goldstone went so far as to tell the Forward that he himself "wouldn't consider it in any way embarrassing if many of the allegations turn out to be disproved." This is total nonsense. Goldstone has put his imprimatur - and his reputation - behind the reports' conclusions. The only reason anyone is paying any attention to yet another of the serial condemnatory reports by the United Nations Human Rights Council is because Richard Goldstone - a "distinguished" Jew - allegedly wrote it and signed on to its conclusions. If he really doesn't stand by its conclusions - if he doesn't care one way or another whether they are true or false, proven or unproven - then no extra weight should be given to its findings or conclusions because of the "distinguished" reputation of its Jewish chairman.

But weight is being given by some to its "unproven" and uninvestigated allegations, which Goldstone himself admits may be wrong. There have been calls for boycotts, divestments, war crime prosecutions and other forms of condemnation based on the conclusions reached (or not reached, depending on which side of Goldstone's mouth one is listening to) by the Report.

If Goldstone stands behind what he told the Forward, then he must come forward and condemn those who are treating his report as if the allegations were "proven" based on "evidence." Don't hold your breath, because such a statement would be heard by both of Goldstone's audiences at the same time.

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1  |   John, West, Thursday Oct 15, 2009
Wow! Now we know what Goldstone and his pals are made of. Such incompetence! It's time Israel lambasts this bozo for the inconsistencies and bias of his report. It's time to discredit him further before he attempts more damage.
2  |   DavidM, Thursday Oct 15, 2009
Goldstone knows why he was selected by the United Nations. His Jewish ancestry provided cover for a vile report filled with distortions. Every anti-Israel supporter of Goldstone's report cites Goldstone's Jewish ancestry as proof that it was accurate. Goldstone had an opportunity to atone for his report at Geneva when he was confronted by the Israeli physician who was maimed by a rocket as she treated her patients. Instead of showing any sympathy for her struggles, Goldstone brusquely dismissed her as a footnote. Goldstone will not admit error.It is not in his makeup.
3  |   Goatbucket, Earth, Thursday Oct 15, 2009
Ah, my first introduction to Dershowitz and his propagandism. The first paragraph neatly sums up Dershowitz' argument; "so much" of the "civilised" world, Alan? That's primarily a small number of Canadians and Britons, and a sizeable number of Americans and Israelis. And given the racism, for example, inherent in the U.S., civilised isn't always the word I would use to describe supporters of Cast Lead. Luckily there are plenty of others who can look at what happened at Gaza and see that there's a case to answer. Israel is afraid to answer the world in court, and rightly so.
4  |   R Hockley, Thursday Oct 15, 2009
Thank heavens the incompetent judge is being shown to the world what he is! A bigot and a bufoon. The other members of the group are in the same league of bigots as Goldstone. Dershowitz and other legal minds have shown the man to be a fool and a tool for his brothers in terror!
5  |   Jo Ellen Davey Cohen Chicago, Illinois, Thursday Oct 15, 2009
Goldstone's fact finding 'Mission' and roadmap to hell was co-authored by Hamas operatives. The Report (some 575 pages) contains numerous factual errors, lies of omission, and testimonies of terrorists; credible sources and material validation is not present. Judge Goldstone, in his zeal to undermine the Israel Defense Forces and kneecap the State of Israel, reduced his reputation to ashes. Goldstone's lingering 'fifteen minutes of fame' jeopardizes security for the Israeli population.
6  |   Goatbucket, Earth, Thursday Oct 15, 2009
So, Jo Ellen, have an evidence to back this up? Or are you just ranting to show "support" of Israel, when you could be helping that country by encouraging it to treat innocents humanely? It's very easy to condemn others, especially on the somewhat biased words of Dershowitz. Do you see any specifics in his polemic? Let's look at what Dershowitz says: "The report reads like a judicial decision, making findings of fact (nearly all wrong), stating conclusions of law (nearly all questionable) and making specific recommendations (nearly all one-sided). " Where's the _evidence_, Alan?
7  |   Mickey, Thursday Oct 15, 2009
"Goatbucket" (aptly named) and Goldstone may well be one and the same - at least in cowardice and denial of facts. Dear Senor Goatbucket: travel this Earth a few yards from your computer screen and UN. You'll discover vast amounts of support for Israel. Visit India where support is enormous and growing as they face their own internal and external jihadist threats. Talk to other than the self-appointed cultural/political elites of Europe and your reflexive delusion will disintegrate. Israel is both widely supported and understood. Even more so in Africa and Latin America.
8  |   Ely Doron, Miami .Florida, USA, Thursday Oct 15, 2009
Dear Alan, Graet insight. Goldstone is not a lone, there is a close link with HRW which constitute a clear conflict of interest,as a former board member, he sheres responsibility for the bias in HRW'S activities. on its part, HRW pressed for the creation of this pseudo-" fact finding mission "and its credibility and prestige are directly tied to the report, which frequntly relies on HRW's unsupported allegation.. Human Right Watch is leading the campaign to promote this report which comper Israel to the genocide in Sudan.there are supported with many anti Israel A holes. Ely Doron,Florida
9  |   Ben, Thursday Oct 15, 2009
Jewish antisemitism has its base in the contempt to goyim for whom one have to work and Jews` understanding the situation.This antisemitism shows Jewish abomination in jentiles` yes.Please think about this mr. Dershovitz
10  |   john kaplan, thailand, Thursday Oct 15, 2009
Judge Goldstone, have you the courage to (belatedly) qualify your report? As you have admitted, it is incomplete and lacks evidence, and consequently should have been qualified.
11  |   Adi Sinclair-Livni, Thursday Oct 15, 2009
Goldstone's report has given terror groups and terrorist the legitimacy as freedom fighters. Shame on you Goldstone. You sold yourself to terrorist for vying to UN top post. Israel does not need your recommendations.
12  |   David USA, Thursday Oct 15, 2009
"....The report reads like a judicial decision, making findings of fact (nearly all wrong),..." Dershy dear - how do you know that from your comfortable airchair perspective ?? Didn't know you have become clairvoyant :-)
13  |   Akim Barron, Thursday Oct 15, 2009
I have just finished Law School at The Erasmus University in Rotterdam, The Netherlands - (btw the best University in the world). I have also downloaded and read the socalled 'Justice Goldstone-Repport'. The question that bugs my mind is this: 'how on earth did Justice Goldstone get to be a jurist in the first place? The report is full of inconsistencies (intrinsic and factual) that defeat the conclussions of the repport itself. As a non-Jewish supporter of Israel, I eternally wonder why some of the worst enemies of Israel are Jews (this makes it difficult defending Israel) Does anyone know?
14  |   Metreger, Israel, Thursday Oct 15, 2009
The damage is already done. Backing out now is too late. I don't understand how an entire defense force can be judged guitly with representation or a two-sided trial with attorneys. The USA Revolutionary War was started over "taxation without representation." Goldstone's report seems to be a "Judgement without representation." No court in the world that I know of will condemn a man as guilty without allowing his representation in the courtoom first.
15  |   Eli, Kiryat Ono, Israel, Thursday Oct 15, 2009
One result of the Goldstone report is that a despicable coalition of anti-Semites will use it to press charges against Israeli officers who defend their country in the most restrained way compared to ANY other country under much smaller threat. Countries like Libya, Syria, Iran, known for the total lack of human rights, are key players in this charade. The report will, eventually, undermine the ability of the West to fight against Al Quaida like organizations. Israel is just a convenient start. An ever shameful report as its writer and his double talk so skillfully exposed here.
16  |   Manuel H. Lazerov, Thursday Oct 15, 2009
Goldstone's vanity and hubris led him to this. The incalculable damage that he has caused Israel, the comfort he has provided Israel's enemies, and the disgrace which he has brought upon himself cannot be erased, regardless of what retractions or comments he makes. In this world of news "sound bites", he squandered a unique opportunity to get this right for all concerned. Had he been more thorough, the report might have advanced the search for truth. The consequence, however, is that he has ended up simply as a "useful idiot", as Lenin would have observed.
17  |   Renny, Thursday Oct 15, 2009
Mr. Goatbucket, are you afraid to stand behind your words that you choose anonimity? We did nothing wrong, I don't know what country you live in but if you were bombarded with rockets wouldn't you wish your government to defend you? It is easy to criticize when living safely. We are being threatned nearly daily of being wiped out by someone or other and have the right to fight back. The times of Auschwitz are over and the world better get used to it
18  |   Jakob Schoemann Bet Shemesh Israel, Thursday Oct 15, 2009
Goldstone could redeem himself and mitigate the damage.He should stand up and acknowlege his error of judgement in allowing himself to be the head of this misleading document. It is not too late!
19  |   Nic, Sweden, Friday Oct 16, 2009
Mr Dershowitz, you arbitrarily pick facts and make assumptions without caring about people might just take your words for being the truth. That's just blatantly irresponsible. The roadmap to hell is paved with columns like yours.
20  |   David, Friday Oct 16, 2009
Goatbucket, What an utterly pointless posting you made! Your entire diatribe focuses only on the man (Dershowitz) and not the issue (The Goldstone report). The overwhelming impression you convey with your post is that you're not remotely interested in the accuracy/validity of the report because your mind was made up about Israel long ago and anyone who tries to disabuse your prejudice will be attacked personally.
21  |   Simpleman, Granada Hills, California, Friday Oct 16, 2009
Mr Goldstone, achieved a big step in his goal. But keep in mind, his goal is not justice, his real goal to be Secreteray General of UN. Good job Mr Goldstaone, all of us doing our best to achieve highst in lift, and also this is your righ, but in terms of justice, sorry Richard, you did a terrible jop. You have not addressed the problem of terrorism.
22  |   Sid B., Friday Oct 16, 2009
As an 87 year old holocuast survivor, I never thought that I would live to see the day when a well known Jewish judge would voluntarily preside over an inquisition of his own people. And that is what Goldstone did. He knew that he was appointed by an organization dedicated to harming Israel. He knew that his copanelist Christine Chinkin had already signed a letter branding Israel guilty and he knew that Hina Jilani, a copanelist, is employed by the government of Pakistan, which leads the OIS and has no diplomatic relations with Israel. And still Goldstone joined the jackals and shamed himself.
23  |   Fred Grubnik, Friday Oct 16, 2009
Did anyone watch the video of when the Israeli doctor from Sderot tried to tell her story to the Goldstone commission? Goldstone was condescending and demeaning to her. He dismissed her by saying that he had already put a sentence about her in his report. Goldstone then start fidgeting through his papers like a very clumsy lawyer would do. You can contrast his condescension and impatience with the Israeli doctor with the highly sensitive and emotional way re responded to alleged Palestinian victims. It is easy to tell whose side Goldstone attaches himself to. And it is not his own people.
24  |   Ben from Cali, Friday Oct 16, 2009
Its because he couldnt hear the Israeli side, we didnt even work with him. If you can only research one view for any report, starting in grade school, you will have a strong bias. It was authored by hamas because they were the only people to talk to him. One can recall pre Israeli state hood a UN fact finding mission to see where demographics and realities stood in Palestine. The Israelis fully welcomed them and were able to gain favor while the arabs did just the oppisite and look what happened, problems 60 years later, why didnt we try working with them?!! Because it could only be bad?
25  |   JMCAL, Friday Oct 16, 2009
Does the Goldstone Report contain any information obtained from the IDF? What kind of credible report only relies or primarily relies on statements from terrorists?
26  |   Alyn, Friday Oct 16, 2009
Obviously Goldstone does not have the courage of his convictions as despicable as they are. it is good to see that he has revealed himself as the coward that he is. Jimmy Carter must be disappointed.
27  |   Jack, Friday Oct 16, 2009
Great name Goatbucket! The opposite is true, in the West it is a few people in England and Canada hungering for a Stalinist show trial. Most of Europe will not do a thing about trials. Alan, with Goldstone and Pillay, one needs to look at the South African angle. South Africa is in tight with Iran.
28  |   Andrew - Seattle, WA, Friday Oct 16, 2009
Really? Goldstone 'had conducted "an investigation." Instead, it was what he called a "fact-finding mission" based largely on the limited "material we had."'? How SHOCKING to find that his "fact-finding mission" was comprised of questionable (to be charitable) 'facts' "cherry-picked by Hamas guides and spokesmen". Wow. What in the hell is wrong with Goldstone? Did he not read his own report? I think that when Dershowitz wrote, "It is as if there were two entirely different Goldstone Reports: the first submitted to the United Nations and the second to the Jewish community", that was an apt call.
29  |   flower,USA, Friday Oct 16, 2009
Too littlwe , way too late.The damage was already done.
30  |   Paul M., New Haven, Friday Oct 16, 2009
"Judge" Goldstone, based upon his biased, amateurish report--replete with hearsay and uninvestigated allegations by Hamas terrorists, is not fit to be a judge in an American Small Claims court. He poses as a Jew and friend of Israel, yet he willingly allowed himself to be used by the most vile anti-Semites that infect the United Nations. Mr. Goldstone will go down in infamy as another Quisling. His report has the value of used toilet paper.
31  |   Abbushuki, Los Angeles, Friday Oct 16, 2009
Anyone notice how few of these "Jews" who denounce Israel as Jews, actually practise the Jewish faith? How many feel the obligations of Jewish Law? Attend services beyond a couple holidays or bar mitzvahs? Eat kosher or actually do anything 'Jewish'? Cynically, they abuse their parents' heritage as authority to validate the lies of Israel's enemies. It yields amazing instant fame and the possibility of oil$ financing. It is time to initiate A-Street: Arabs who love Zionism. Yes. A-Street can simply be Jews who are as Arab as the J Streeters are Jewish. Ma a Salaam. Ayewa Sioneeya.
32  |   Robert Haymond, Israel+Canada, Friday Oct 16, 2009
"Goatbucket" of "Earth"? Your name and duplicitous address says it all. Might as well state the truth, that in fact you're from mars, at least as far as your (lack) of understanding is involved. Wait, no goats on mars, no buckets. Where are you from and what kind of (factual) evidence can you provide?
33  |   David J, Friday Oct 16, 2009
To Goatbucket-brain, the Geneva Convention is clear in the Gaza situation: when terrorists hide behind noncombatant women and children, any injury suffered by them at the hands of an opposing army are attributed to the terrorists--as a matter of law. Because of the great value Jews place on life, Israeli soldiers knowingly put themselves in danger by informing populations by textmessaging of impending attacks. To my knowledge, no other army on earth practices such restraint, far beyond the call of what the Geneva Convention requires. Goldstone's report is rubbish.
34  |   Dan Burland, Friday Oct 16, 2009
This Goldstone was a lawyer (actually an advocate or barrister) in Apartheid South Africa before he was appointed a judge by the Nationalist Apartheid government. As a lawyer he handled mercantile cases for his monied clients. He did not represent the victims of apartheid, those oppressed by the apartheid government. He never fought for their rights in court. Where was he then? Fighting for the oppressed whose human rights were violated? No - only when he had been appointed as a judge from the safety of the bench were his concerns for human rights expressed. A hero?- no, a weak hypocrite.
35  |   bernie nagler, Friday Oct 16, 2009
I'll say what Deshowitz is too polite to say: GoldFINGER is a naive jerk who hads done more harm to Israel than any other Jew.
36  |   Joseph London, Friday Oct 16, 2009
Goldstone's report asks Israel and the PA to set up proper judicial investigations to hear the allegations and assess the evidence. Israel did this after Lebanon II , and should do so the sooner the better. Most of the world accepts that what it saw on t.v. and read in the media amounts to war crimes. It's not enough to just dispute Goldstone. He should be one of those cross examined by the judicial enquiry to make it clear his was only a fact finding mission.
37  |   united nothing, Friday Oct 16, 2009
UN can not loose its face after goldstone's report. UN has nothing to loose. Egypt born nobel priced terrorist arafat said a womb of an arab woman was his best weapon. he forgot to mention that international community must deliver food and UN must provide legal coverage to use people as weapon. It is not fully correct to say that colonization of palestine by arabs and stealing lands are now key points to solution of conflict. violation of human rights, millitary agressions, intifadas, terror and support to terror in UN must also be loudly addresses.
38  |   united nothing, Friday Oct 16, 2009
This is not fully correct to say that both parties are responsible for this conflict. One conflict party - Muslim countries do not recognize right of Israel to exist and connection to palestine, another - western countries do recognize these. Only to the extend that both parties do blame Israel we can say that both conflict parties are wrong. There is a bit of a cynicism in these word junctions: ' Arab peace initiative', 'Democratic elections in Gaza' and 'United Nations'
39  |   Charlie Nairobi, Friday Oct 16, 2009
vehement denial is reliably the clearest admission of guilt
40  |   Sam McFarland, Kentucky, USA, Friday Oct 16, 2009
There is an easy way for Israel to address the report: Rather that attack Goldstone, or the report as one-sided, investigate fully each charge made in the report. Prosecute any found guilty of the human rights abuses that are charged. If Israel cares about human rights and international humanitarian law at all, that is what it will do. Take the charges seriously, regardless of whether or not it is one-sided, or whether or not the report's legal conclusions outstrip the facts.
41  |   Eliana, California, Saturday Oct 17, 2009
Because in World War II more Germans were killed than British and Americans combined, but there is no doubt in anyone's mind that the war was caused by Germany's aggression. And in response to the German blitz on London, the British wiped out the entire city of Dresden, burning to death more German civilians than the number of people killed in Hiroshima. Moreover, I could remind you that in 1944, when the R.A.F. tried to bomb the Gestapo Headquarters in Copenhagen, some of the bombs missed their target and fell on a Danish children's hospital, killing 83 little children. -Netanyahu
42  |   Tod Zuckerman , San Francisco, Saturday Oct 17, 2009
Reply to Akim ( #13 ) : Akim , so many of us Jews are also sickened by those who eagerly use their Jewishness in order to attack Israel . This self-aggrandizing opportunist , Goldstone ,could not wait to grab the post, after veteran Israel basher Mary Robinson declined it (it was too much of a kangaroo commission even for her). Four-flushers like Goldstone are worse than kapos : the kapos did terrible things to save themselves or their families, but the Goldstones do terrible things to advance themselves socially/ academically/economically. Shameful. Lastly, good luck with your studies .
43  |   Samson, USA, Saturday Oct 17, 2009
#39 describes the medieval legal process; if one admits guilt, one is guilty, but, if one denies guilt, one is guilty, too. The only difference is that the former doesn`t require an auto da fe to obtain the confession of guilt. In the minds of Jew & israel haters, we are always guilty. The Goldstone report was a supererogatory, but, potentially effective new addition to the increasingly sophisticated arsenal that our enemies are using to destroy Israel. Perhaps we should emulate the Arabs: use world media to expose their evil agenda while inculcating the world with our side of the story.
44  |   Esteban Argentina, Saturday Oct 17, 2009
Goldstone to remain in History as a self hating Jew making so much harm to the State of Israel. Thanks Alan for this brillant article
45  |   Chris USA, Saturday Oct 17, 2009
Goldstone is playing both sides of the fence all the while knowing what is to come. As an attorny you should be able to recognize premeditation and scripted action from genuine remorse. He weeps crocodile tears for the Israel he claims has abandoned the true path. How is that remorse? How is that backpedaling? All I see is deprecation and guile.
46  |   Miche Norman Hod Hasharon, Saturday Oct 17, 2009
The only real conclusion that can be based on a factual foundation as a result of a reading of the report is that Goldstone is not so much as a Jew who is expected by people who hate us to act as if he were engaged in court proceedings, as a court Jew who has proceeded as if he were engaged in satisfying the expectations of those who hate us. And in a mirror image of faust, he now finds that he did not achieve what he naively thought he would, and having bargained with the Devil, he now finds that the devil tosses his views aside, affording them the weight of nothing heavier than a fig leaf
47  |   Saul, Saturday Oct 17, 2009
Since 1948, hundreds, if not thousands, of reports have been published about human rights violations in Palestine. At last, one gets the world's attention. In my humble opinion, the creation of the 'Jewish Sate' was in itself a war crime, because its creation led to the slow but horrific destruction of another peoplewho were sacrified by the international community on the calling of the zionists. Since then, ethnic cleansing, was crimes, and crimes against humanity have been the order of the day. Thank you Mr. Goldstone.
48  |   Stefan, Tel Aviv, Saturday Oct 17, 2009
Alan Dershowitz is one of the finest brains of the nation and one of the most eloquent defenders of Israel. I’m not a jurist but I have sufficient background in science to be able to read the Goldstone report analytically (and I read it). In my opinion Alan Dershowitz is very polite in his evaluation of the report and to call it kangaroo court is a euphemism. The mere fact that Goldstone is Jewish alone will buy the report credibility that it is otherwise completely void of. Exactly like some other Jews provide the best fuel for anti-Semitism.
49  |   jonah Viet-Nam, Saturday Oct 17, 2009
Which of the two faces is the real one ? Or is it a third, the yellow-but-not-golden face ?
50  |   Nic, Sweden, Saturday Oct 17, 2009
Samson, the problem is not about admitting guilt. The problem is that you're seen as an enemy of Israel as soon as you voice any critizism, at all. Furthermore, Israel never ever admits any guilt, at all. That is tragically funny, as there is no people in the world that has not committed any crimes. Dershowitz is unfortunately a voice too many listen to. If they didn't, I would consider him funny in a tragic way. Now I consider him dangerous in a funny way.
51  |   Gary, Saturday Oct 17, 2009
Goldstone is jepordising his potential position in the UN by speaking by both sides of his mouth. It would be interesting to watch his career 'developed' in the next several years.
52  |   arthur Jersey City NJ USA, Saturday Oct 17, 2009
Too late. The damage is done. Israel is further isolated and the UN record continues to build showing that Israel is the basic cause of most world problems and as a cancer it must be removed. These half hearted apologies are useless and only for self gratification. Like Jimmy apartheid carters so called explanations. In a few months goldstone will be back blasting Israel
53  |   Bob Gerber, Atlanta, Georgia, U.S.A., Saturday Oct 17, 2009
The truth that Goldstone, Dershowitz and I know is that the " Goldstone Report" was a fait accompli prior to Goldstone accepting ( and maybe lobbying for) the " commission". This, only a stepping stone to his higher aspirations on the world stage. A second truth that Alan and I know is that he is some what of a con man also. Alan, while an articulate and staunch defender of Israel, is in lock step poltically and a financial supporter of the disastrous Obama Administration, no friend of Israel. Perhaps Alan like Goldstone may have a personal agenda not yet publicly disclosed.
54  |   The Jewish Admiral, Saturday Oct 17, 2009
All know that since the arabs have lost all of their unprovoked wars against Israel, they are reduced to waging war on the diplomatic front. Here is what will happen when Israel next decides to take military action against these self-same arabs: major attacks, followed by more U.N. and NGO reports, all of which will ultimately go nowhere. There will be continuing wars, attacks, counterattacks, on into the indefinite future. Why? The arabs have a single, unaltered objective: the destruction of Israel and all the Jews. So Israel will continue to defend and the reports will continue. So NU?
55  |   A.B, Saturday Oct 17, 2009
As I watch this new millenium unfold I am struck by the pervasiveness of the NEW AGE. I sincerely believe we are at that moment in history when a united world with a New Global dispensation will attack Israel to destroy her. Many in positions of power today seek to destroy the Jewish State. To the U.N it is okay to kill and terrorise Israelis after all they are only GOD people. Even in America today many,some from the Jewish community, routinely villify and demonise Israel. We are at that TIME. I say to Israel BE PREPARED. MANY ARE CALLED, YET FEWER ARE CHOSEN
56  |   Greg Wilmington, DE U.S.A, Saturday Oct 17, 2009
Dershowitz, the eternal apologist for the guilty, has manipulated the truth again. No Surprise. The entire " civilized" world still continues to find The Golstone Report accurate and credible. The truth is, what they find appalling is the enormous pressure placed on Goldstone by the U.S. and countless Jewish groups to " back off " lest his present position and other interests become jeopordized. The truth can never be supressed !
57  |   michael ness ziona, Saturday Oct 17, 2009
Judge Goldstone may view himself as the modern link to the Jewish Apostles hevruta of Jesus who disseminated the view that "all of the Jews" in Eretz Israel killed Jesus of Nazareth, the son of God. Since that belief took much beating after the resurrection of the Jewish State, he would like to be remembered for his "monumental work at the UN" to again try and reverse the history of the Jewish people, now as free people fighting to defend their homeland. Intrigue reigns eternal.
58  |   joed, Sunday Oct 18, 2009
having watched on press tv , the slaughter that took place in the gaza for 22 days i thank god that mr goldstones ethics are more important than his zion beliefs . i would have bet any amount that mr g was not capable of dealing honestly with what happened on those 22 days of insanity on isreals part thank you mr g ,and thank you 25 supporters of the motion that lets the prosecution go forward ,let evil be deal with
59  |   TSB Clifton, NJ, Sunday Oct 18, 2009
Goldstone is the Lot of the 21st Century. Our sages tell us that Lot was appointed Chief Judge in Sodom on the very day it was destroyed. I once heard the following in the name of a great gaon: This statement of our sages seems odd -- Lot was certainly an improvement over the typical citizen of Sodom. Why then was punishment meted out at that moment? Because Lot was an honest judge enforcing corrupt laws. That is worse than corrupt judges enforcing corrupt laws. The latter can at least be bribed. The former incorruptibly enforce cruel laws. That sealed Sodom's fate. UN take heed.
60  |   Boris Galinsky, Sunday Oct 18, 2009
Goldstone is not a self-hating Jew, as such Jews don't exist. Just the opposite - these Jews are self-loving Jews, trying to show the world that they are "better" Jews than the rest, that they apply higher moral standards to themselves and, thus, they always criticize other Jews for real or perceived "violations."
61  |   Alfred NYC, Sunday Oct 18, 2009
If Goldstone doesn't get up in the UN to denounce his own report, his name will probably become a curse word. See "Goldstone" - a person treacherous to his own people: one who seeks acclamation at the cost of his own people; a term of opprobrium;
62  |   yves Miedzianogora Brussels,Belgium, Sunday Oct 18, 2009
Prof. Dershowitz:100% behind you!!!!!Why don't you summon Goldstone to a debate???Let him sink further!!!All the best!Zei gebenscht!!!!
63  |   Joseph London, Sunday Oct 18, 2009
Some posters seem to have lost sight of the complete Goldstone Report. He states that both Hamas and Israel need to have independent judicial commissions to investigate all allegations. It is the UN , not Goldstone, that accepted a resolution blaming only Israel. Israel refused to speak to him; he tried his best to speak to them.
64  |   Colin Bradley DK, Sunday Oct 18, 2009
Very well. But could somebody enlighten those of us who live outside of Israel as to why Goldstone was refused entry to Israel so he could get a better grip on the facts? Why should we uncritically just believe Israels version of the facts, if no-one else is allowed to get anywhere near the evidence to assess it impartially? And how do we explain the fact of Israeli troops who were engaged in the action later going public and telling the world that engagement protocols were in reality nowhere near as unproblematically embedded in Geneva conventions as the IDF and the Israeli government insist?
65  |   jackie Florida, Sunday Oct 18, 2009
It seems that Goldstone follows in a long line of Jews who try to deny their heritage by siding with those who hate us. This tradition goes back to the Inquisition (Torquemada was of Jewish descent) and continued to more recently with the kapos in the concentration camps. Fitting in with the majority population was always their goal. Even the changing of his name from what it probably was --Goldstein --indicates this. I feel sorry for him. I learned from my mother to be proud of being a Jew.
66  |   Julius London, Sunday Oct 18, 2009
Mr Goldstone you are out of your depth playing in international politics. Did you not realise how your Report would be interpreted by Israels' enemies and that they would totally ignore your report on Hamas. Did you really think that the tin-pot arab dictators and their economic cronies that control the UNHCR were going to play fair? Politely put you have been the perfect 'Jewish' stooge. Now is the time for you to stand up and speak out.
67  |   Lily, Cape Town, Monday Oct 19, 2009
It was known among certain Jewish circles in Johannesburg that Goldstone was never a lover of Israel, and it was not a surprise when his report came out so lopsided. I think he displays a shoddy disregard for neutrality, which anyone in a position of responsibility should carry as an emblem. Due to his weakness, and lack of professional ethics, the door opens wider for our enemies. Our world scapegoat status becomes further entrenched. Amazing that a fellow Jew whose knees shake in the face of our enemies, has betrayed us. Israel and fellow Jews all over the world, fight back.
68  |   Roy - Atlanta, Monday Oct 19, 2009
The only person who should be charged with war crimes is Goldstone - a disgraceful opportunist trying to kill Jews & the Jewish state. Shame on you Richard (Dick is probably a more apt name for you) Goldstone
69  |   Lynda, Ontario, Canada, Monday Oct 19, 2009
Hamas and other terrorist groups have learned how to use the western legal system to their advantage. We are a litigious civilization and in litigation it is not the truth that matters ... it's whether you can persuade a jury or judge that you (your client, your cause) are right, which is not the same as proving truth. Law societies fall over backwards to protect the rights of individuals, which most often means protecting the rights of criminals over the rights of the innocent. Supposedly the law works that way to keep us from a new dark age. Will someone please turn on the light?
70  |   Shahab Mohd Altaf INDIA, Monday Oct 19, 2009
The "Gold stone report" reminds me of the "Treaty of Versailles" which had all the trappings of the second world war.Germany was unfairly blamed for the First World war.Here also Israel is being victimised for acting in self-defence. The Hamas still does not recognize Israel and has in its constitution the goal of destruction of Israel.We need tw