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Sunday Dec 14, 2008
Army Life: Dilemmas at checkpoints Posted by A.J.
Comments: 20
My last entry A Moral Army, generated many passionate responses, and I feel it necessary to add some context to the scene that I described at the checkpoint. Next time you think of a checkpoint though, think of the Israeli 18-year-old who left a world where the sight of a pregnant woman elicits blessings of good health and an easy delivery and entered a world where a pregnant women and the young child at her side potentially represent a clear and present danger. At the checkpoint, he lives in a world where every bone in his body tells him to let the pregnant woman through, but knows that he must check her because if he doesn't, she just might kill the pregnant woman in Tel Aviv who he helped while on his way to the checkpoint.
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Ken in Castel Israel, from the US Virgin Islands,
Tuesday Dec 16, 2008
you are a hero to me, dude. you put your life on the line everyday and, to fight for Israel is the only fight on the planet worth fighting, in my opinion. i am an american...a christian...here learning hebrew. while i am too old to join the IDF, my plan is to return next spring to begin a series of volunteer stints for the IDF... as many as it takes... to do my part. i do not wish to prostlytize, nor am i here to convert anyone. i simply wish to offer my help in the fight for peace in Israel. if all i can do is wash helmets and clean toilets, so be it. yes...you are a hero, my friend. to me.
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yael, ireland,
Tuesday Dec 16, 2008
Four times as many Palestinians are killed/injured by Israelis than vice versa. Palestinians do have some arms, Israel has the one of the largest armies in the world. The Israeli army is on Palestinian territory. The examples given are in Palestinian territory, not on Israels border as are most checkpoints. Israel allows settlers to be armed and above the law. You claim a threat gives the right restrict peoples movements, so do you agree, given the facts, that Palestinians have the right to patrol and restrict Israelis? Do you accept that what is allowed for you should be allowed for others?
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Marsha in Englewood, NJ,
Tuesday Dec 16, 2008
Yael as long as you are safe in Ireland, keep your anti-Israel propaganda to yourself. How dare you compare the IDF, who is there to protect Israel to the animals who the author is describing, women who are given medical treament in Israel yet use the rights Israel gives them to commit murder. Shame on you.
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Jan, Australia,
Tuesday Dec 16, 2008
Keep up the good work A.J. You are involved in a particularly nasty one sided war. For war it is. A war where you cannot know who is the enemy. "Woe is me, that I sojourn in Mesech, that I dwell in the tents of Kedar! My soul hath long dwelt with him that hateth peace. I am for peace: but when I speak, they are for war." (Psalm 120:5-7). But keep faith. It is declared "I will overturn, overturn, overturn, it: and it shall be no more, until he come whose right it is; and I will give it him" (Ezekiel 21:27)
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Max Lurya,
Tuesday Dec 16, 2008
Yael. No matter what points you make, you will NEVER convince me that somehow going to a hospital and killing those that treated you along with other innocents is right. It doesn't matter how horrible an occupying force is- you have NO right to murder a bunch of babies in a hospital because you hate your life.
Even if the occupation is horrendous, I fail to see a connection between resisting occupation and murdering scores of innocent children in a hospital. please enlighten me.
There was a time when people like Ghandi were considered resistance. Now it's anyone willing to kill jews
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Naftali Tel Aviv,
Tuesday Dec 16, 2008
Yael, Tel Hashomer is in Palestinian Territory? Doctors without Borders is Palestinian?
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David,
Tuesday Dec 16, 2008
Yael - the Israeli army is on Israeli territory that has been Israeli territory for thousands of years. The Arabs that have been pushed onto Israeli land are not a nation at all - Arafat made up the P word, reffering to a false nation, in 1964. Before that, Jews, British, everyone who lived in Israel was reffered to by that name.
By the way - in 1964 the PLO openly stated its plans to destory all of Israel. Only years later did they decide to pretend to only want half of our country (They still want the whole country as well as mass Jewish genocide).
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Naftali Tel Aviv,
Tuesday Dec 16, 2008
Yael writes for Backpacker Magazine
Yael Fitzpatrick travelled to Palestine as a member of a peacekeeping organisation and found a peaceful people behind the physical and imaginary barriers...
Peaceful people? I guess we made up the story of Maalot, and the restaurant bombed on Passover and Samir Kuntar and Dolphinarium, and Kav 300 and the thousands of other terror attacks for the last 60 years. In fact, they are so peaceful, that the killings between Hamas and Fatah never happened.
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Yitzhak US,
Wednesday Dec 17, 2008
Where is noted #2 that the Land ever belonged to the so called "palestinians"?You must read since you put in your response.But your response is like someone who has never read history.The arabs were never called palestinians.The first ones called palestinians were "Jews".The name "palestine" was put on the Land of Judea & Samaria by hadrian emperor of rome.it means 'land of the philistines.Philistines were a non semitic people who lived in the coastal area.They have no legitimate claim to the Land.There never was a palestinian "language" or govt or currency or postal routes etc etc.
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Yitzhak US,
Wednesday Dec 17, 2008
Also keep in mind that the Jews are not the ones who wear suicide belts into gaza to blow up innocent women & chlldren. Settlers may have guns being reservists but they don't go into gaza to shoot & destroy or maim.The check points are there to stop would be murderers from entering Israel.Remember that the arabs of gaza voted for the terrorist group hamas.The arabs have had a chance to build something in gaza when the Jews were forced out of their homes.The arabs had plenty of money to do it with.But they chose arms instead of building roads,schools,hospitals,sewage plants.they cant be trusted
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yael, ireland,
Wednesday Dec 17, 2008
Hi all, great to chat again, a few points. I do not support bombers, I support international law. I have never said anything that was propaganda, I can prove it all. Now can anyone answer the very simple question I have asked?
If you give yourself a right, does that right apply to others?
If a law restrains you, should it restrain others?
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Bruce USA,
Wednesday Dec 17, 2008
Tell me Yael. What rights do Jews have in the Middle East outside of Israel? Why don't you talk about the racial cleansing of the Middle East and north Africa of Jews? Jews have existed in the West Bank for thousands of years but now they require protection or else they would be killed. Why don't you respect the rights of Jews?
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Adam Eliyahu Berkowitz,
Wednesday Dec 17, 2008
Yael, you use twisted logic.The fact that Israel's army is larger does not prohibit them from using it.The fact that the Palestinian civlians are poor and oppressed does not transfer blame or responsibility to Israel. If the Palestinians choose to use violence against Israel,Israel has the right to use it's fullest military strength to protects its citizens.Israel has no obligation, moral or legal, to allow Palestinains to patrol in Israel.No, a law that restrains Palestinians does not have to apply to Israelis.
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Max Lurya,
Thursday Dec 18, 2008
Ok Yael, you clearly know nothing about international law.
International Law states that civilian casualties resulting from enemy fire against insurgents who use human shields are murders of the insurgents, not of the enemy fire.
Also, 4 times as many Palestinians killed. The difference is not the number, but the combantants vs non combatant ratio. When you add this into the equation, the vast majority of Israelis killed were unarmed women and children, where as the vast majority of palestinians killed were armed.
Would you sympathise with Nazi Germany if they had a higher casualties too?
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VK, Mumbai,
Thursday Dec 18, 2008
If Palestenians use ambulances in acts of terror they deserve to have those facilities cut off. Radical Muslims should realize that using civilized values against the very people who hold them dear comes at a steep price.
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Adam Hocherman Hoboken NJ,
Friday Dec 19, 2008
You're question: If you give yourself a right, does that right apply to others? If a law restrains you, should it restrain others?
My Answer: If Israeli's used pregnant women, children, and ambulances to maim, slaughter and butcher innocent civilians, then Hamas would have a right to restrict their movement.
My Question: Does Israel have the right to protect their citizens?
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DJStahl, USA,
Sunday Dec 21, 2008
Re #2: nope, Israel doesn't have one of the largest armies in the world. Check the numbers. Not even the top 20, per Stockholm Institute. The checkpoints went up in the WB mostly after 2000, when an intifada started. As an occupying power, Israel certainly has the right to do so, per int'l law. Prior to 2000, Israel was trying joint patrols with soldiers of the PA. One of the incidents which sparked that intifada was the murder of an Israeli officer, an Ethiopian, by his Palestinian colleague while on jeep patrol. The PA arrested the perp, then released him shortly afterward.
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Joseph W Beverly,
Thursday Jan 01, 2009
I want to commend Isreal for doing what our United States has not had the guts to do with Terrorism.. We still cowtow to the Un.. We have allowed Iran to spill the blood of countless American Heros in Iraq through their Funding of Insurgents and their I.E.D.'s.. We have allowed The Democratic party to politicize the Iraq war for political gain and ignore Iran.. We now through the election of Barak Hussein Obama have sent a clear message to the world that we will not even help your country prevent Iran from developing Nuclear bombs . Make no mistake he will not be a hardliner for your side..
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JEAN VERCORS from Paris, France,
Thursday Jan 08, 2009
How many rockets need to be fired into Israel until the world understands?
if any amercian or European city get 6000 rockets fired at their schools, hospitals and their homes in the the last few months,
there would not be any question,
Self defense is the answer.
what country in the world would expect to live under these conditions?
Enough is enough !
Why Ambulances Sometimes Get Targeted By The IAF?
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JOYCE, MISSOURI,
Saturday Oct 17, 2009
To #19
You are so correct. If it was my state being shot at we would absolutely defend ourself, that is if Obummer can make up his mind weather to SEND RELIEF TROOPS OR NOT,oH WHAT A SICK WORLD WE LIVE INGOD BLESS iSRAEL
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