Sunday Aug 16, 2009

Window on Israel: The same old Middle East

Posted by Ira Sharkansky
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Iran is again putting several members of the persecuted Bahai faith on trial, this time on charges of attempting to destabilize the country on behalf of Israel.

In Gaza, 30 people were killed and more than 100 wounded in a battle in and around a mosque between Hamas and Jund Ansar Allah, a group said to be inspired by al-Qaida.
 
Nervous Jews are already fearing that the Obama administration will buy into Hamas's story: that it's really a moderate organization, concerned with keeping the extremists from gaining power in Gaza.
 
The Gaza dust-up is one more indication that the Palestinians are a long way from being a nation. While disputes over doctrine mark some conflicts, others are between factions defined by family and village. They all have a substantial "us against them" component.

When tensions peak, the men (and some of the women) reach for their guns and knives. The latest clash involved machine guns and rocket-propelled grenades. One of the leaders killed himself with a vest packed with explosives, also killing a mediator who came in an effort to stop the fighting.
 
Among the dead is an 11 year old girl.
 
Human rights groups have not accused either side of overreaction.
 
A spokesman for the Fatah government in the West Bank has called the situation alarming.
 
What should Israel do?
 
There is nothing it can do. Nor, do I suspect, is there anything it wants to do.
 
Neither Hamas nor the other group involved in the fighting was competing for the opportunity to negotiate with Israel. Both of them are more extreme than Fatah, which itself is stuck in the rut of demanding all of Jerusalem as well as the right of return to Israel for refugees and their descendants.

The refugees number somewhere in the millions, and - in the unlikely event that they do return - may begin killing one another over possession of grandpa's plot.
 
We can expect discussions in the White House and elsewhere about how this is an opportunity for the Obama administration to expand its policy of engagement to include Hamas. Surely everyone wants peace, and what better opportunity than after regrettable bloodshed.
 
Critics will damn Israel, this time for keeping up the pressure on Gaza, which must have contributed to the internal problems, and for exploiting Palestinian misfortunes by claiming they are not ready for peace.
 
According to public opinion surveys, the majority of Israelis want peace, and are willing to compromise on territorial issues.

The majority of Israelis are also suspicious of Palestinian motives, and do not believe that an accord is likely. Recent polls, taken since President Obama spoke of his aspirations in Cairo, show substantial numbers view him as naive, and doubt that his policy of engagement will work.
 
How much of an effort should Israel make to bridge gaps when one extremist faction of Palestinians battles another extremist faction, both of them proclaiming the destruction of Israel as their ultimate goal?

The Fatah faction, viewed as moderate, may not be able to maintain itself in the West Bank, and just a week ago officially adopted goals no imaginable Israeli government would be willing to concede.
 
A clever person does not enter a situation only a wise person knows how to get out of.

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1  |   Jonah in Jamaica, Sunday Aug 16, 2009
Sunni vs. Shite. Hamas vs. Fatah. Sudan vs..Darfur. Persecution of Bahai in Iran. Turkey vs. Kurds. Persecution of Copts in Egypt. Somali pirates vs. The World. Etc., etc., etc. And its Israel's fault? Pals are not ready for peace and vigilance is required, not unrequited concessions.
2  |   Phil M USA, Sunday Aug 16, 2009
A "Palistinian State"! These savages couldnt run an outhouse. All they know is "kill' kill" ...and that means anybody and everybody. It is a fact that more Muslims kill each other than anyone else! If Fatah (Abass) is moderate, then my tuchas is always clean from drek! Don't even negociate with these "generation of Vipers"! Wait until they slaughter each other. Isn't it interesting that Israeli Arabs live better than any other Arabs in all of Arabia..I don't see them running away to Gaza or Egypt. In WW2, the USA made enemy aliens sign a contract!
3  |   Paul Kupferman Pasadena, CA, Monday Aug 17, 2009
I agree with this article. As Schlomo said in Kohelet: " There is nothing new under the son." Ever since Israel declared its independence, the Arab world has had one objective: Destroy Israel. Nothing has changed. Israel will do what is must do and has always done.
4  |   John Novak Galt, Ca USA, Tuesday Aug 18, 2009
How much effort should Israel make to bridge gaps? NONE!! perhaps this shows how stupid I am, but the land was given to Israel by G-d, period, case closed!!! If the nations of the world don't like it, too bad, let tham cry in thier pillows at night. Israel has G-d on thier side, they don't need anyone else, or am I missing something here? John
5  |   Jen USA, Thursday Aug 20, 2009
John Novak, The "god gave it to me" mantra is BS. I want Israel to be sustainable and at peace with her neighbors. To do that, Israel must be ready to act diplomatically, at all times. For the longevity of Israel, there is no choice. Someday, we will no longer send our billions of dollars. Someday, the world will tire of Israeli aggression. And yes, they will view it as aggression, not just "self-defense". Israel is not a victim! Israel must either be civilized and by example, civilize her neighbors OR must resort to tribalism. What will it be? Heads in the sun or the sand? Hope or fear?
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