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Sunday Aug 30, 2009
Window on Israel: Obama should leave Israel alone Posted by Ira Sharkansky
Comments: 10
When I was at the University of Wisconsin-Madison during 1968-75, I occasionally spoke out against anti-war students and faculty colleagues. I also learned what tear gas smelled like, as it was impossible to avoid the mass demonstrations, or the police and National Guard response. At the same time, I was lecturing several times a year to junior officers at military bases in the United States and overseas. Numerous students came to class while on leave from Vietnam. One of them had earned a Congressional Medal of Honor. My topic was domestic policy making, in the framework of an MA program in public administration, but there were conversations about other things. Lebanon II was more successful than Lebanon I, and even more successful was the recent conflict in Gaza. Neither played well on international television, but both were less costly for all sides than either Iraq or Afghanistan. And despite the heroic claims of victory by Hizbullah and Hamas, Israel's border areas have been quiet since those operations. Peres and Rabin tried peace with the Oslo Accords of 1993. Barak made the controversial decision to withdraw unilaterally from a "security zone" in southern Lebanon and Sharon tried to break a stalemate by withdrawing unilaterally from Gaza. Former head of the general staff Amnon Lipton-Shahak is another military figure who entered politics on the left, and became one of the leaders of the Geneva Initiative. This has not gone far, but was meant to join non-governmental Israelis and Palestinians in a draft that might provide the basis of a peace agreement.
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Ron Virginia USA,
Monday Aug 31, 2009
PART 1. Israel has made it impossible for the US to leave Israel alone. Since Israeli statehood, the US has been Israels most fervent and loyal ally. It has vetoed anti Israeli UN resolutions, guaranteed Israeli international loans, and supplied aid (now $3 Billion a year). Without this support Israel would be isolated politically, financially and militarily in the world, and may not have survived. This unwavering US support has cost the US great animosity in the Arab world and made it extremely difficult for friendly Arab governments to govern hostile populations and still remain US allies.
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Ron Virginia USA,
Monday Aug 31, 2009
PART 2.For some years, there has been growing realization in DC that US receives little or nothing from its unnatural relationship with Israel. Israel says US benefits because: (1) Israel the only democracy in Middle East. False and irrelevant. (2) Israel is military bulwark for US in ME. Irrelevant and false. For example, in the Gulf War, Israeli participation would have destroyed the coalition. (3) We fight war on terrorism together. False. Israel faces Hizbollah and Hamas. They dont attack US. US faces Al Qaeda and Taliban. They dont attack Israel. We have no common terrorist targets.
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Ron Virginia USA,
Monday Aug 31, 2009
PART 3. US national security interests lie more in Arab world than in Israel. Arab world has oil, supports US in UN, World Bank and IMF, provides US military bases and provides superb intelligence on Al Qaeda and Taliban. Israel defies and ignores US. Illegal Israeli settlements in West Bank and annexation of Jerusalem are violations of UN resolutions 181,and 242 and violate articles 53,49 and 143 of 4th Geneva Convention.These violations are war crimes. The US cannot leave Israeli alone and continue its unrestricted support of Israel. Israel has a decision to make.
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Randy, US,
Tuesday Sep 01, 2009
Ron, you are correct in part 2, but the points are not false or irrelevant. Israel is a force stablizing moderate Arab governments in the ME which serves US interests. It shares common values with the US, and is a natural ally. The oil producing countries' ability to influence US policy toward Israel by moderating prices is about the only leverage America has. However, US policy is not only guided by self-interest. It is one of few countries guided by morality and justice in a world that has historically given Jews little. That is why the US will always support Israel, and I'm proud of it.
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jinny usa,
Tuesday Sep 01, 2009
Ron, you must be insane or one of the terrorists. maybe both. Your insanity is not worth futher comment.
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Kevin Joubert USA,
Tuesday Sep 01, 2009
Israel and the USA have more than oil in common. Yes we need peace in the middle east, but it's unfortunate that it will never happen. The US, regardless of who is in the white house, should always back up Israel. Should we tell Israel how to defend it's self? No
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Ron Virginia USA,
Tuesday Sep 01, 2009
Jinny. Could you be more specific? Just to proclaim insanity conveys nothing and suggests a lack if vocabulary. It might be constructive if you could point out specific points with which you disagree.
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Rpn Virginia USA,
Tuesday Sep 01, 2009
PART 1,#4 Randy.Thoughtful comments Randy, but I dont understand how Israel is a stabilizing force on moderate Arab governments. The US may be a stabilizing force because of its influence on friendly Arab govts. But the only influence Israel has is to convince Jordan, Syria and Egypt of the folly of attacking Israel. Israel seems intent on testing its allied status with the US starting with the deliberate attack on the USS Liberty in 1967, and its continuous aggressive running of espionage operations against the US.
Our Arab allies dont do that, and the FBI is angry about it.
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Ron Virginia USA,
Tuesday Sep 01, 2009
PART 2. Randy. Israel being a natural ally depends on US benefits from the relationship. With continuing Israeli illegal activities in occupied territories, sharing of like values are in sharp conflict, and many in US govt intend to bring them into line at Israels expense. Paramount in US interest in ME is war on terrorism. Intel services of Jordan, Egypt and Saudi Arabia provide invaluable support. Mossad does not. CIA official described Mossad intel against Arab targets as lousy and mostly gossip stuff. I agree with you, US must support Israel, but not its occupation of Palestinian land.
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B Sturges,
Sunday Sep 13, 2009
I agree. We shouldn't interfere in Israel's affairs. No more support either. That extra money will help us with our own financial problems. We can finally pull out of Iraq and Afghanistan and use that money at home as well. Good luck solving your own problems in the world. Let us know how it works out. I hope all of those settlements were worth the price. We certainly will sleep easier after losing our baggage...
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