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Sunday Feb 24, 2008
Window on Israel: Laws of God vs laws of Israel Posted by Ira Sharkansky
Comments: 14
We have some relief from the Iranian president calling us a filthy germ that must be destroyed, the continued fall of rockets on Sderot, residents' demonstrations in behalf of greater protection, and mounting pressure for an operation in Gaza. Yet David is one of Judaism's most revered figures. What he said when he heard about his friend Jonathan's death is widely quoted. Those wanting to preserve David's purity and the ban on homosexuality can find ambiguity in the statement. It does not describe lovers in a bathhouse. Nevertheless: SHAS is a member of the governing coalition. If the issue heats up to the point of the party leaving the government, Prime Minister Olmert would lose his parliamentary majority.
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Reuven Ben-Daniel Israel,
Sunday Feb 24, 2008
But there is no evidence that it was not a chaste relationship.There are married couples who by mutual choice have a chaste relationship.
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calev ben avraham,
Sunday Feb 24, 2008
I advice the rabi who makes such a claime to study the book of job and then comare it with the book of Daniel,maybe his blind eyes will open to the fact that the holocuast was a proof for the Satan that Israel would never abandone their Creator.They where given into the hands of Satan for three and a half years after which the war ended and Hitler was slain!
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Velvel,
Sunday Feb 24, 2008
Makes no sense. How can Shas be worried about the laws of G-d when they are busy dividing up Jerusalem. Why do you go by labels and rhetoric instead of actions. It is deeds that speak louder than words, all gay-bashing aside. It is a desperate attempt by Shas to maintain credibility among the religious by bashing gays. Your article is counter productive by trying to assign leniency in Torah to gay acts. It simply doesn't exist. Religious people laugh at this attempt. What you should be doing is pointing out the sinas chinam of Shas and its blatant hypocrisy.
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Walter (USA),
Sunday Feb 24, 2008
David was a profit of the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. His "love" for Jonathan was no different than the love I have for my daughter. I love my five year old daughter more than any love I could have for an adult woman. The God of the Bible does not say one thing and do another. A man that lies with another man is an abomination in the eyes of the Creator. Gods Words are far, far above any good law or idea man could perceive.WE should not give up our children to those that outwardly spit in the face of God, that is a mistake on our part. Isaiah 48:12-19.
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Samuel Ramirez,
Sunday Feb 24, 2008
Not religious or Sephardi......what does this mean? Is a Sephardi Jew not religious or ignorant or just not Ashkenazi.
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Michael Martin Maury NC USA,
Sunday Feb 24, 2008
In the case of David and Jonatrhan,Jesus made a qualifying statement:Greater love hath no man than to lay down his life for his friend. That's the kind of love David and Jonathan had for each other.
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Morton Friedman Lanham, MD USA,
Sunday Feb 24, 2008
G_d, please spare me from the 'Men of G_d'. No, nobody will ever accuse me of homosexuality, bur 'live and let live' is my mantra, and homosexuality is never a threat, and never has been.
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Melvin Gilbert Jr.,
Sunday Feb 24, 2008
homosexuality is a sin before GOD and that is that! King David's admission of love for Jonathan is not an admission of perversion but is the same kind of love a man would feel for his very best friend. It does not intimate that any perverse act was going on, only that they had a close kinship, the kind of closeness any man can feel for a fellow warrior. the struggle men have to bare up to in life. and the fact that Jonathan stood by David even against his own father King Saul.
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marilyn l anna, usa,
Sunday Feb 24, 2008
David and Jonathan had one of the closest relationships in the Bible. Their commitment to God and to each other was one of respect and love in the Truth of God's Word. The love that was shared between them held a bond of true friendship that did not compare to the pressures of marriage to a women. David loved God and feared Him. David's relationship with Jonathan was one which continued to show the love of God to others.
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Michael Peters, Sydney, Australia.,
Monday Feb 25, 2008
The author of this article, Ira Sharkansky, should pore over responses #6 and #8 to understand the Bible text unless it is a clear attempt on her part to deliberately misconstrue it in order to add weight to her argument.
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Shaul,
Monday Feb 25, 2008
What complete intellectual dishonesty. You found one source, which you quote out of context, and suddenly you have "discovered" an Orthodox Jewish "hetter" for homosexuality where no prophet, Tanna, Amora, Gaon, Rishon or Acharon found one before. Go and justify your perversions from any other source, but please spare us the insult of trying to justify it from the Torah.
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Jo 24 February 2008,
Monday Feb 25, 2008
The comments 8 and 9 are good. Sometimes
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God loves King David because he obeyed God's laws,
Monday Feb 25, 2008
God's laws in Tanakh & NT condemns homosex and liars. King David was neither else he could never have been so beloved and honored by HaShem and Yeshua for keeping Torah in letter and in spirit. Blog writer obviously doesn't know God's laws. He should actually READ the Bible (God's laws) before he deigns to write about them. When it's God's laws v. Secular Israel's laws, God's laws wins hands down. Whereas, God's laws and Holy Israel's laws are the same.
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Robert Nickisson,
Thursday Feb 28, 2008
Waiting 2000 years for its religious apparition to appear, it should be obvious its a no show. A cult wishes to run the country has added to the rubbish pointed out in the article Homosexual knee knocking causes earthquakes. Wasting legislative time to debate tripe. Let Secular Government run the everyday affairs of the living. Religion stick to running the affairs of the gullible. Or make Religion the Law of the land and revert to the Dark Ages. Religion, man made tradition over time becoming fact. Its place in society is for those who need it and the Worlds biggest business. |
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